Fake Lenin: "The capitalists will sell us posters of the drum circles with which we shall annoy them." http://t.co/dpwCrwmnVw
— billmon (@billmon1) December 17, 2013
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“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up.” — Lily Tomlin
Cervantes
Glad to know there’s a market for them, anyway.
Cacti
Makes as much sense as buying a Che t-shirt made by third-world, non-union labor.
I’m surprised Wally World didn’t start selling those a long time ago.
BGinCHI
They are “cashing in”?
Um, who in thee fuck would buy one of these?
ruemara
Good god. How repulsive. Frozen and the Hobbit were the opposite of repulsive, although Frozen was better and a much needed antidote to the usual sniveling marriage crap of the modern retelling of fairytales. Would like to see a real version of the Snow Queen done, though.
Violet
Is Wal-Mart also selling posters with pictures of their Thanksgiving food donation bins for employees?
Baud
Did you think all those Che t-shirts were hand-made?
Bill E Pilgrim
The capitalists will sell us the fingers to point at them and laugh.
Felinious Wench
Since this is an open thread, I had a lonely thought earlier to share. I want to see Johnny Weir perform this in Sochi.
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xcqjj3_johnny-weir-poker-face_sport
The man is FIERCE.
Suffern ACE
@ruemara: I’m glad they called it “Frozen” and not “The Snow Queen”. The story is not based on the snow queen in any way shape or form. I don’t know who started the rumor that it was.
Omnes Omnibus
@Bill E Pilgrim:
When you point your finger cos your plan fell through
You got three more fingers pointing back at you.
Zam
Well I’ve always believed that many people who get involved with certain movements are there more for the fact that they want to be part of a historical movement than any real commitment to a particular issue.
MikeJ
http://i.imgur.com/iN6apKf.jpg
aimai
@Cacti: I’m old enough to remember when people bought pictures of the guy facing down the tank in tianamen square. There’s always an icon, and always a buck to be made off selling that iconic image.
Linda Featheringill
Fifty-two friggin bucks! Damn!
Omnes Omnibus
@Zam: And a lot of people claim to have been somewhere years later when it is “cool.” The vast majority of people who claim to have been at Woodstock saw it in a theater.
NotMax
Open Thread?
Have no idea what to make of this music video.
Neo-retro?
WereBear
They’re not self-aware. They will simply sell anything.
Amir Khalid
@Suffern ACE:
It’s related to the Hans Christan Andersen story in about the same way that Snow White and The Huntsman is related to Snow White and The Seven Dwarves. It’s not a straightforward adaptation, but you do see the similarities.
Ben Franklin
@Baud:
Che t-shirts won’t move on web ads.
LBJ sweatshirts will go like hotcakes.
RareSanity
The engineering world uses a saying that is based on that Lily Tomlin quote…
“No matter how idiot proof you try and make it, society will always produce a better idiot.”
Roger Moore
@Amir Khalid:
Nit: It’s Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, which was the ordinary spelling at that time. Tolkien deliberately used a non-standard spelling when he called his characters “dwarves” rather than “dwarfs”, and it’s largely through his influence that the former has become an accepted spelling. FWIW, Firefox still shows “dwarves” as a misspelling at least when using the US English dictionary.
Omnes Omnibus
@Roger Moore: Tolkien includes a little note about it at the beginning of The Hobbit.
JGabriel
Seeing as it’s an open thread ….
Sign That You’ve Been Reading Political Blogs For Way Too Long:
When you get a small tub of thermal paste in the mail, with a sticker that reads “Do Not Eat Paste,” and your first thought is:
Violet
@NotMax: It says 1992 on the info, so not that neo at this point.
ranchandsyrup
Guy shot 4 people and then himself in a Reno healthcare facility. Lots of people are gonna dust off their Johnny Cash impressions.
Amir Khalid
@Roger Moore:
I couldn’t remember, off the top of my head, whether the Disney cartoon was titled with -ves or -fs, and picked the wrong one. Thanx.
ETA. I think Dwarves is way cooler than Dwarfs and shall use only the former spelling from now on — irregardless.
JGabriel
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Giant foam fingers?
Omnes Omnibus
@JGabriel: If that is what the market research indicates.
evodevo
All Right !!!! My favorite Lily Tomlin quote !! (Next to “Is this the person to whom I am speaking?”)
ruemara
@Suffern ACE: They did. It was in the closing creds and in all the industry buzz on what the next big Disney animation was.
Dead Ernest
@aimai:
Damn. That qualifies as ‘old’ already? Sheesh.
I think ‘time’ may have broken sometime in the past few years*
*but how could you know?
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: They’re Finns. That pretty much covers it.
Villago Delenda Est
@RareSanity:
We don’t care. We don’t have to. We’re the phone company.
Violet
Hack List–Peggy Noonan is Number 8. Alex Pareene is writing in the voice of each person this time and this big made me laugh:
Michael Bersin
Representative Vicky Hartzler (r) held a press availability after one of her photo ops in Columbia, Missouri today. Hilarity ensued as she distanced herself from President Obama’s photograph.
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
It would be really, really tricky to make a modern film that’s faithful to Andersen’s “Snow Queen,” though. It’s the story of a girl who sacrifices everything and goes through great hardship to win back a boy who finds her stupid and boring because he’s had his head (magically) turned by the Snow Queen.
ETA: Link to the original story
ruemara
@Mnemosyne: AAAAAccck! NO! The classic Snow Queen? Can’t believe you read it that way. It’s a tale of tragic loss. She does win and is unrepentantly wicked throughout. The Girl wins him back, but in the end, she loses. In between though, it’s the hero’s journey, but with nascent boobs.
RareSanity
@Villago Delenda Est:
Classic…
Keith G
I assume that there have been trademarks taken out on the name as I read reports a few years ago that Occupy Wall Street demonstrators in New York filed to trademark their name with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.
I never heard if they were successful.
I wonder how the shirts were licenced and if a cut goes to the movement.
Amir Khalid
@NotMax:
You don’t need to make anything of it. It is its own weird, beautiful, perfect self.
Yatsuno
For those interested: I am not dead. Pretty much stoned out of my gourd though.
p.a.
@Omnes Omnibus: ‘dwerroes’, ‘dwarroes’ or some such.
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
Your pronouns confuse me. :-) The Snow Queen loses and Gerda wins (Kay is the boy) through her simple faith:
jon
Better to wear your officially-licensed Guy Fawkes mask on the street than tack an Occupy poster on your bedroom wall, I guess. When will Warner Bros market the hat?
Amir Khalid
@Keith G:
If Occupy Wall Street protesters filed to copyright the name, it was more likely to prevent this very kind of commercial exploitation than to practise it themselves.
Keith G
@Yatsuno: Yay. Hope your post op time is as comfortable as possible. Remember this is an excellent time to flirt with cute guys on the nursing staff.
Karen in GA
After spending all weekend sad due to the insufficient kidney function of Phoebe, the World’s Most Affectionate Cat, I took her to a different vet for a second opinion — and the new test results say she’s fine.
WTF? Now what?
@Amir Khalid:
Bastard.
Baud
@Yatsuno:
So back to normal then?
Keith G
@Amir Khalid: If they are getting a cut and able to use it to good ends, such as
Violet
@Yatsuno: Enjoy the good stuff! Glad you made it out of surgery okay. Any word on how it went? Best wishes for a good recovery.
CaseyL
@Yatsuno: Seems the least they can do is give you the good stuff, after slicing you open and switching out parts. Did you hold out for the bionic upgrade? I hear it comes with that swoosh-beep sound and automatic slo-mo, perfect for freaking out co-workers :)
WereBear
@Yatsuno: Win-win then.
WereBear
@Karen in GA: I’d believe the good test. Is she acting sick?
Mnemosyne
@Yatsuno:
Yay! May as well enjoy modern pain management while you can.
Karen in GA
@Yatsuno: Very glad to learn of your survival, and hoping you’re enjoying your current condition.
trollhattan
Damnit. Just…damnit.
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/12/17/6009109/gunman-shoots-4-kills-himself.html#storylink=cpy
Mnemosyne
@trollhattan:
If we’re taking bets, I’m guessing someone’s ex-wife or ex-girlfriend worked at the medical center.
StringOnAStick
@Yatsuno:
Don’t get all heroic and act like you aren’t feeling much pain, or they take away the good stuff and just give you pills. It happened to a friend who just got his hip done; all day he was anxiously anticipating the promised morphine and when the appointed time came they said “you’re doing great, you don’t need it”. Big let down; he wanted to try it!
Amir Khalid
@Karen in GA:
It might be interesting to ask the first vet what (s)he makes of these new test results, and possibly redo the original test if your wallet can stand it. Then, if your kitteh really is healthy, rejoice!
Pogonip
@Yatsuno: Congratulations. Enjoy your buzz and get well soon!
scav
@Yatsuno: Gourds, like most boxes, are best appreciated from a constantly changing prepositional relationship. enjoy the vacation.
Karen in GA
@WereBear: Her long fur is a little unkempt — she’s not grooming herself quite like she usually does. She doesn’t look terrible, just not her usual radiant self. A bit of dander on her fur, that sort of thing.
She’s lost a couple of pounds in the past year, but she was overweight before and she spent most of the summer on different foods while I tried to get her to lose weight — so I can’t tell if it worked, or if the weight loss is because there’s something brewing.
I’m just worried that if I act like she’s fine when, in fact, there’s something brewing, I’ll make it worse.
The best part? I have a cat a year older who’s got her checkup next week. Oh boy!
Amir Khalid
@Keith G:
As I understand,there is no formal Occupy organisation. Unless the copyright holders are also the Rolling Jubilee people, how would the fees get from the former to the latter?
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
Also, too, I had to re-read the story for work and it was nothing like I remembered it. I did not remember the Robber Child or the raven and his sweetheart or, well, half the events in the story that was way longer than I remembered. It’s practically a novella.
Roger Moore
@Yatsuno:
Are we supposed to notice a difference?
Karen in GA
@Amir Khalid: I think that’s what I’ll do. Thanks.
JGabriel
@Mnemosyne:
Standing discharge? Ewww….
Litlebritdiftrnt
I don’t know if you guys have seen this story but the fucking sharks are picking Detroit’s bones dry while the retired firefighters and cops are getting shafted.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115967/detroits-bankruptcy-means-big-bucks-legal-and-consulting-fees?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
One law firm billed $3.8 million for October alone, how many billable hours do you have to rack up to bill $3.8 million for a single month. How many lawyers working 24/7 does it take to bill $3.8 million for a month? Personally I do not think that it is possible to justify that bill.
lamh36
Obama sends message by naming Sochi Olympic delegation
WereBear
@Karen in GA: If you’ve been switching around the food, that could explain weird testing results if her system is still adjusting to it.
How much time between the two tests?
ruemara
@Mnemosyne: That depends on the version. My favourite is the one where in the end, The Snow Queen has her due. Poor Gerda, she loses her love. the HSC one, she and Kay are together. I wonder who wrote the one I’m thinking of though?
@Yatsuno: Live it up. the healing part has less good pot.
Seriously, get well soon. Wish I could do something, but I guess good vibes will have to do.
MattR
@Litlebritdiftrnt: 5 lawyers working every hour of every day of a 31 day month while billing $1000 per hour would be $3.72 million.
NotMax
@Yatsuno
Hip hip hoorah!
MomSense
@Yatsuno:
Very happy to hear that you are ok! Being stoned following joint replacement is a good thing!
Litlebritdiftrnt
@MattR: Exactly, I don’t know many lawyers who can bill that way. How they are getting away with this is beyond me.
ETA the fact that it is the Emergency Manager’s former employer that is doing the billing should set off huge alarm bells but I guess I am just naïve.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
It isn’t Wal-Mart selling the posters. It’s just someone using their website. It’s liking buying something on eBay: Wal-Mart gets a cut but they aren’t the ones marketing or shipping the product. So, while there is some irony here, it says nothing at all about Wal-Mart’s self awareness or anything else.
This happens a lot. People really need to pay more attention to whether something is being sold by a particular retailer before pointing and laughing.
MattR
@Yatsuno: Try to remember which is the “call nurse” button and which is the button that controls the morphine drip. My dad screwed that up once and kept wondering why the nurses kept ignoring him when he woke up and wanted a drink (the doctors and nurses were wondering why he needed so much morphine) Feel better and good luck with the rehab.
@Litlebritdiftrnt: Shocking that it is the former employer of the current emergency manager who is raking in those ridiculous fees.
Anne Laurie
@RareSanity: LOL. I was told there was an Edward Teller quote: “Nothing can be made foolproof, because the fools are so ingenious!”
ruemara
@lamh36: Haha! Diplomatic “go fuck yourself” is diplomatic.
WaterGIrl
@Yatsuno: So glad to hear from you! I have been popping in and out all day, waiting to hear.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yatsuno: Woohoo. Get well soon.
Karen in GA
@WereBear: The tests were this past Friday and again last night. The thing is the urine concentration — I don’t know the exact number from Friday’s test, but yesterday’s was 1.026, which evidently is low enough to make a vet say “Hmmm, let’s do bloodwork.” Of course, the bloodwork both days was normal.
I’ll get the new results to her regular vet and see what she says.
WaterGIrl
@Amir Khalid: @Karen in GA: I think that’s excellent advice. If the same test came back two different ways then I would think the first vet might want to re-test at her own expense.
WereBear is the expert on kitties, of course, but what you’re describing… changing food, a bit of lost weight, fur not quite up to snuff, were all things I saw with my kitty soulmate who didn’t get diagnosed with kidney issues until it was too late. Me: oh good, he’s losing weight on the new food, yay. Only not yay at all, as it turned out.
I am so hoping that your kitty is good, but there’s a lot that can be done if you catch it way early, so even if there’s a problem, I’m still optimistic. But I would not just take the “all clear” from the second vet at face value, not just yet. Amid, excellent advice!
JPL
@Yatsuno: You still make more sense than Sarah Palin though. Take care of yourself.
WaterGIrl
@NotMax: I had to read through all the comments first to be sure that no one else had said it already, but now that I know: I saw what you did there.
Omnes Omnibus
@Litlebritdiftrnt:
Jones Day is a huge law firm. There are lots of lawyers there who are going to have $1000+/hour billing rates. Then there are paralegal billings, support staff billings, copying fees, transportation to and from Detroit for meetings, meals and hotels in Detroit, entertainment while in Detroit (hookers and blow), fees for non-legal experts, car service fees. Stuff adds up and some of it is even legitimate.
Mnemosyne
@MattR:
IIRC, to a certain extent the morphine pumps depend on the placebo effect — they don’t want you accidentally overdosing, so if you’ve already pushed the button to your maximum dosage, it only pretends to dispense more drug.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
The copying fees are a notorious money sink.
All that solid mahogany paneling and unborn antelope leather furniture doesn’t come cheap.
Baud
@ruemara:
Fixed.
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
There are a lot of different versions, probably because the original is full of WTF just happened? moments.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: I’ve worked at a big, not quite Jones Day big, firm. Every expense is tracked. And billed.
ruemara
@Mnemosyne: It might be from any one of my varied collected fairytales books. Including a russian one full of fragments of original tales.
Going to P.A. Bootcamp in LA in Jan. Low Key BJers dinner run?
Groucho48
The revolution will be commercialized.
WaterGIrl
@ruemara: That looks really cool. I bet you are excited! Yes?
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
It could probably be arranged. ;-) BillinGlendaleCA, Roger Moore, Ruckus and something fabulous are all local to the Valley. (There were a couple more people at the last LA meetup but I’m blanking on their nyms.)
Citizen_X
@Roger Moore: Hmph. The Dwarves disagree. (NSFW, but then it is the Dwarves.)
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne:
Warren Terra was there, also, too. And I’m in Pasadena, not The Valley, TYVM.
Mnemosyne
@Roger Moore:
You’re in a valley, just not The Valley.
ruemara
@WaterGIrl: I am. I only have 3 years training and 7 years producing, but based on the principle that people hire from pools they know, this might give me a shot at real work. And I sold enough stuff to fund this! Not enough for a camera, but you have to look on the bright side or the bright slivers.
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne:
Actually, I’m high enough up that I’m more on the bajada than in the valley.
Mnemosyne
@Roger Moore:
Blah blah blah. It’s people like you who made Mildred Pierce a tragedy. ;-)
“Did you think I was happy in Glendale, Mother?”
WaterGIrl
@ruemara: That was my thought, too, as I looked at the web page. I wondered if you might gain some contacts as well as some skills.
What kind of camera are you looking to get? (wondering about price range, I know nothing about cameras) A friend of mine is a videographer who is getting a new camera for christmas, I think. I don’t know if you would want a used camera or if he would even want to sell one. Just kind of wondering out loud about whether it would even be something to pursue.
ruemara
@WaterGIrl:
This is on my Amazon Wish List. I do so much even photography, or did-now I do it in trade for fellow broke artists. Competitiveness is a factor as with multiuse. I think I have enough of an even/set portfolio to book work, but if I’m planning on selling myself with non 20 megapixels and no decent lenses, I’m huffing paint in my sleep. This price is just for the body. Lenses add about another 2-300 in price. Plus, this shoots a very nice moderately good HD footage. This was shot with a combo of DSLR (pro level cameras like this sony) and my Nikon coolpix. Pardon my babbling voiceover.
WereBear
@Karen in GA: I’m very glad you are following up, and I’m a behaviorist, not a vet.
I’m just familiar with what happens when a lot changes at once. As WaterGirl says, hopefully there’s still stuff that can be done to turn the tide if there is an issue.
chrome agnomen
@Omnes Omnibus:
still have my tickets. (not movie ticket)
GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)
Saturnalia list for the prog
Marshall 40 watt amp 1×12
Big muff distortion pedal
Morley wah pedal
Epifone electric ukulelee
Full Tilt Tom Wallisch ski boots
The lady gets an icebreaker hoodie and lots of swag from her SiL’s company Sloane and Tate
ETA: I told them if they want to get me anything, specialty tools from a locally closing Sears store (30-50% off)
A Humble Lurker
@ruemara:
I once read a version of the Snow Queen where said queen was actually cocaine.
M.C. Simon Milligan
The new groups are not concerned
With what there is to be learned
They got Burton suits, ha you think its funny
Turnin’ revolution into money