Monday Morning Open Thread: Keep Resisting!

Maybe it’s just me, but… the present social moment reminds me of the Anita Hill – Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings. All the nice white men (and some women!) shook their heads and said Not my mother! My wife! My daughters! Nobody would dare treat my women like that!

And then ‘their’ women told them the stories they hadn’t been able to share, because they needed that job and all the girls expected to be treated like that and what good would it have done to complain?

Or ‘their’ women just looked away, because really, what could they say?

That didn’t stop Justice Thomas’ confirmation, of course, but it did — as the expression was — change the conversation. Suddenly sexual harassment was a real problem, not just a smutty joke.

Let’s be the snowflakes that start the avalanche…

From a BJ commentor. Dogs know which people can be trusted:

Can we pull off a peaceful protest, or what?

Even though the Women’s March on Washington drew about three times the crowd as Trump’s ultimate ego gratification event the day before, it was incredibly peaceful. In fact, multiple news outlets say there were zero arrests, which is pretty amazing.

I think the fact that it was a woman-led event with more females than males participating had something to do with that. I saw many friendly interactions between protesters and cops, including women asking for and being given permission to pat police horses.

One of Trump’s rally sycophants, Sheriff Clarke, painted a different picture:

What I personally witnessed Sat Jan21 in DC was a total collapse of the social order. It occurred one day after our side peacefully gathered…

Several taunted me at Women’s riot. I dared those creeps to do something. They knew better & kept it to verbal insults. No cops to be found.

Possibly Clarke actually believes this, as he is a raving crackpot. But I saw a few small groups of Trumpsters try and fail to provoke marchers. Here’s one such incident:

The imbecile in the Trump cape stood on that platform bellowing the name of his new baboon king at the passing marchers for a few minutes. But aside from a bird selfie taken by a nasty woman who badly needs a manicure, he was ignored.

Not sure why Clarke and other Trumpsters I’ve seen making evidence-free accusations of aggression on the part of the marchers have such a need to paint themselves as victims. It’s almost like they need blankies, warm milk and a safe space or something.

Anyway, I’m home now, having driven nearly 2,000 miles over three days and walked 15 or so around Washington, DC with about half a million others in that city and millions more worldwide.

We drove the last 400 or so miles home in the teeth of a howling storm, crossing one tornado watch area after another. My sister-in-law, who held the fort while my sister and I went with the girls, asked me if it was worth it.

You’re damned right it was, I told her. Not only did we make Trump’s ego gratification ceremony the day before look as small and pathetic as the man himself, not only did we make him the holder of the record for man rejected by the most women ever, we reaffirmed something important: It’s our country too.

Late Night Open Thread: Reverberations from the Women’s March Are Just Beginning

Julia Ioffe, Russian emigre and professional cynic, despite her worst fears was not immune:

But unlike in Moscow, I spoke to people here who knew that this rally by itself would change nothing; that only politics could. “I don’t think it’s going to make a difference,” said an older woman from Pennsylvania. “It might, but only in two years. It’s more for the people here to feel like they’re part of something.” Her sights were set on the congressional elections of 2018, on more concrete political action. Unlike the Moscow protesters, these women had access to a strong and vibrant civil society, a century-old women’s rights movement, and legislative elections that aren’t rigged by the executive. Women riding back from the rally on the Metro chattered about the midterms and the presidential election of 2020….

Another professional cynic:

Open Thread: Callin’ Out, Around the World…


TaMara’s got another photo post scheduled, so this (comparatively) dead zone seemed like a good place to share some other-than-BJ reactions…

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I’ve got the ‘flu EVEN THOUGH I LET THEM TALK ME INTO A GODSDAMNED FLU SHOT, and the pictures and stories here are the only things that have taken me out of the misery, however briefly.

First, a note from Claudia:

Hi, just wanted to let you know that the March in Chicago was cancelled after a larger than expected crowd showed up. According to organizers the route was flooded with people and they couldn’t march so they turned it into a rally in Grant Park. The organizers expected about 50k, they’re estimating about 150k showed up. It’s now just a rally. Here’s a link to the Chicago Tribune coverage: “Thousands fill Loop after Women’s March rally in Chicago draws 250,000”

That’s as many people as showed up for the President-Asterisk’s inaugural yesterday — and the Women’s March didn’t have to pay seat-fillers!

Judy Little sends shots from the Boston March. Two-sided signs:

And a threat to chill the hardest spirit:

From O. Felix Culpa,

Howdy! Here are pictures from the Santa Fe march. We had at least 10,000 (I’ve seen estimates as high as 14,000), which is darn good for a small city in a state of only 2 million. There were also marches in Albuquerque, Las Cruces, and Farmington, and a bunch of New Mexicans bused it to D.C.

Photos are:
1. Me
2. A mother/daughter pair in matching pussyhats
3. Santa Fe crowd scene

Women’s Marches: Photos and Live Feed

My inbox had photos in it when I got up this morning. I’m bummed, my whole crew turned up sick by week’s end, so I’m watching from home. But that means I can post photos during the day.

Here are some from Randy Kahn.

Outside Huntington Metro station and crowd leaving Archives Metro station.

And from Valerie:

On the bus, on the way.

I’m keeping up with the Denver march here.

And yes, I know I’m stepping on John, I’m sure he won’t mind, I just wanted to get the live feeds up. Keep those photos coming!!

ETA: Denver just now:

You can see the DC crowds here (won’t embed) from the National Mall Cam



Saturday Morning Open Thread: Best Wishes to All Marchers!

Anybody takes pics they want to share, email jpgs to me or TaMara and we’ll front-page them. I’m guessing BettyC will have some shots of her own to share, too!

Rebecca Traister, in NYMag, on “The Complicated, Controversial, Historic, Inspiring Women’s March“:

…[T]he media’s treatment of the march has been so fretful that you’d be forgiven for thinking that this grass-roots demonstration of hundreds of thousands on behalf of women’s rights is an example of feminism in crisis and disarray.

“From the beginning the only question the media wanted to ask us was whether we had a permit,” said Linda Sarsour, the Palestinian-American Muslim activist who is one of the four national co-chairs. It was almost funny, the fetishization of the question of whether thousands of angry women literally had permission to show up and protest. Sarsour felt it was indicative of a basic distrust of women as serious activists and organizers. “Logistics became the main focus,” she said. “As if women were not sophisticated enough to know how to obtain permits. I was like, ‘Can someone ask me about my principles and values?’”

The idea that this march is disorganized in some unique or particularly problematic way, Sarsour said, is particularly rich, given that there are about 30 women on the national steering committee, talking to around 400 organizers of marches around the country. “Many of us had never met before this march planning,” she said. “The idea that we were supposed to immediately and seamlessly bring strangers together in a kumbaya march team, when we’re from different backgrounds, have different experiences, religious backgrounds, are from inner cities and suburbs, is crazy. We’re organizing what is going to be the largest mass mobilization any administration has seen on its first day.”…

After the permits were obtained, Sarsour noted, the coverage turned to how contentious the dialogue among organizers and participants was. “As if this contentious dialogue in the women’s movement is by accident,” she laughed. “Contentious dialogue is by design.” To the organizers, the point is pushing hundreds of thousands of marchers to think harder about the connectedness of gender to race, to immigration, to criminal-justice reform and climate policy, to create dialogue among people who could and should be allies on many of these issues, to try to push feminism toward a transformational step…

The way the women’s movement is different from other social movements is in its size and the unwieldy scope of its mission: to represent not an oppressed minority, but a subjugated majority. To campaign on behalf of just over half the population is by definition to build an enterprise on conflicting interests and perspectives and experiences, to try to bind together people who come from divergent backgrounds, who sometimes resent and disagree with each other. And its immensity and diversity is used against it by those who fear its potential power. As Gloria Steinem, who has signed on as an honorary co-chair of the march, told me, “Because it’s a majority movement, it’s subject to the same divide-and-conquer tactics that colonial powers used on countries — turning races, classes, and generations against each other, the myth that women can’t get along and are our own worst enemies.”…

The women’s movement has survived not in spite of its cacophony, but because of it: Because those who have pushed the movement from inside to change and grow and be better — even when they don’t always agree on what better means — have helped us meet the shifting forms of inequity from era to era. The women’s movement has won women’s rights to self-determination, to economic and educational opportunity, to sexual freedom, to reproductive autonomy, to professional opportunity, to legal protection from violence, rape, assault, discrimination, and harassment. And on Saturday, today’s iteration of the women’s movement will give body and voice and form to those who resist this incoming president and his attempts to roll back the rights of women, people of color, and immigrants…


What’s on the agenda for the day — March-related or otherwise?