Thursday Evening Open Thread: It’s Satirists All the Way Down

If you can get past your inner copy editor, PFT Commentor at SB*Nation has some of the best takes on the last RNC debate:

… Jeb Bush was asked about the New York Times Magazine question that posed “If you could go back and kill Hitler as a baby, would you do it?” His answer was a emphatic “Hell yeah I would” that was in no way designed to make him look tough in front of his cooler friend Donald Trump. Nonetheless, Bush took the lead as the most anti-Hitler candidate for about 30 hours, but with all that Carson had been through with the media asking him unfair questons from his “gotcha” autobiography I wanted to toss him a softball. So I asked him, “as the most anti-Hitler, but also the most anti- abortion candidate, would you ABORT baby Hitler?”

Ben Carson- soft on Hitler folks. But a man of his convictions….

Winners: Illegal Immigrants

Trump likely won over the entire undocumented worker demographic tonight. If Im a illegal immigrant the first thing Im doing is starting a SUPERPAC for Donald Trump because if the American public has reached the point where there willing to elect him as President, then Im getting the hell out the United States so might as well make it a free ride…

Apart from checking into immigration policies in the worse-comes-to-worst country of your choice, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

More Milwaukee GOP Debate Open Thread: America Is Doomed, or Maybe It’s Just the GOP

gop debate weepers deering

(Matt Deering via

RNC/Fox News Debate Open Thread

Okay, I missed the undercard (doubt I missed much, actually). Here’s the Guardian‘s liveblog.

Here’s the Rude Pundit’s audioblog. (I owe someone a hat tip for that link.)



Yeah, guess we’re up to speed now.

Friday Night Fights Open Thread: Aging White Men, Talking Smack

darth cheney silences poppy bush

(Nick Anderson via

A Democrat once said Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.” Repubs prefer to think of defeat as a bastard child, and the Bush Crime Cartel is busily Jerry-Springer-ing its paternity.

Mr. Pierce explains:

It seems that Poppy Bush sat down with Parson Meacham to hash out Poppy’s life. And who could be a better wingman for the job than the Parson, who’s made a lucrative business out of the Great Man Theory of American history? In the course of their discussions—which, alas, have led to a book-like object—the elder Bush has some harsh words for a certain former secretary of defense of his casual acquaintance.​​

“I think he served the president badly,” Bush told Meacham, Peter Baker of the New York Times reported, quoting the book. He added: “I’ve never been that close to him anyway. … There’s a lack of humility, a lack of seeing what the other guy thinks. He’s more kick ass and take names, take numbers. I think he paid a price for that.” (Rumsfeld resigned as secretary of defense in 2006 after conditions in Iraq deteriorated. He declined comment about the biography to Fox News…

But then again…

Poppy ripped Donald Rumsfeld unconditionally, and he said some tough things about Cheney, too, but he also made sure to point out that C-Plus Augustus ran his own shop. Jeb (!) made the same point about who was in charge, and went out of his way to say nice things about Cheney besides

Why, a political cynic might almost suspect that Darth Cheney had squirreled away some “oppo research” in that man-sized safe he had removed from the Naval Observatory on his way out the door in 2009! Yet however could a man who’d gotten his start in national politics as a CREEPster in Richard Nixon’s administration ever stoop to such low, ungentlemanly tactics?


Supplemental alternate-history weirdness:

Friday Morning Open Thread: Survivor, RNC Edition

… And yet, Rih Sanctorum is still in better shape than some of his fellow contendahs, per the Washington Post:

Thirteen Republican presidential campaigns had started the week in a kind of solidarity, brainstorming ideas to make the cable news debates more fair. They ended the week in pathos and disarray, after Fox Business announced that two candidates would be shunted from prime time to an “undercard” debate, and two mainstays of the undercard debate would not make it to the Nov. 10 forum at all.

The campaigns of Gov. Chris Christie (N.J.) and former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, in the unique position of being booted from the main stage, responded through gritted teeth…

But Christie and Huckabee would at least appear on television. The campaign of Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.), who had been roundly praised for his performances in the CNN and CNBC “undercards,” was dumbfounded at the decision to cut him out of Tuesday’s forum…

Former New York governor George Pataki also didn’t qualify for either debate.

The gripe of every sidelined campaign was that, in a year when pollsters have been caught short in race after race, national polling has been prioritized over state polling to cast the televised debates. In averages of New Hampshire polls, Christie has climbed ahead of Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.); in Iowa polls, Huckabee and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, had more support than Gov. John Kasich (Ohio). Yet Kasich and Paul would appear in prime time, while the much-liked Graham would stay home…

Apart from more of this year’s bumper crop of schadenfreude, what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the week?