Idiot Box Open Thread: Worthy PSAs

SSDD Open Thread: Don’t Watch — Why Give Him the Satisfaction?

Donny Dollhands’ minions will be watching the network ratings tonight like dogs watching bacon frying. *Nothing* will be as effective at annoying the Oval Office Squatter as hearing that he couldn’t draw an audience to top the Big Bang Theory rerun on the three-digit cable station.

If there’s anything of note beyond ‘Lying Liar Lies Some More’, it’ll be recapped instantly, especially on social media.

When both Joe Manchin and Politico are expressing their doubts up front…

My personal bet as to why MAH WAAAALLLL is suddenly a national crisis:


Tuesday Evening Open Thread

Here’s Badger looking all bad-ass:

If my area of Florida is destroyed by a hurricane next summer and Trump tours this neighborhood, I know my Badger would sink his fangs into the shitgibbon’s nutsack if he wandered onto our property. Badger has heard Mom and Dad cursing at the Bad Man on TV all his life!

And he’ll hear it again this evening. We’ll definitely tune into the carnival of stupid. You?

I’m looking forward to the Chuck and Nancy rebuttal. And while I generally despise it when pundits — especially neocons! — suggest what Democrats should say in a given situation, J-Rub’s suggestions here are pretty damned on point, IMO. “It’s the lying, stupid!”

Also, a little bird told me that if you want to watch a shouty, finger-wagging rebuttal by a non-Democrat, such a spectacle will be streamed live for your viewing pleasure. That I will skip.

Anyhoo, open thread!

So it begins…

The Post published an editorial yesterday afternoon imploring Democrats to use their leverage in the border wall fight for a “truly moral purpose” — to protect the Dreamers. The editorial begins with predictable throat-clearing about the shutdown being on Trump and the wall being a wasteful, ineffective, prejudice-driven response to a made-up problem.

But because Both Sides, The Post editors mildly chide Pelosi for “opposing Mr. Trump’s wall in absolutist terms, calling it ‘immoral…'” and urge the Democrats to make a deal with the devil:

Rather than talk about the immorality of a wall, Democrats could use their leverage to achieve a truly moral purpose. In return for a few billion dollars for a segment of the president’s wall — which would immediately be challenged in court by property owners along the border — Democrats might permanently shield from deportation well over 1 million “dreamers,” young migrants primarily brought to this country as children by their parents. They might also protect tens of thousands of Haitians, Salvadorans and Hondurans whom the administration is preparing to expel after having lived legally in this country for years under a program known as Temporary Protected Status.

The difficulty, we understand, is that the president cannot be trusted to bargain in good faith. He agreed to a wall-for-dreamers deal last spring, only to reneg when his nativist aides and base objected. Now Mr. Trump cannot expect Democrats to deal unless he goes first, committing unequivocally to legalize the dreamers and TPS migrants in exchange for some border security.

It’s a long shot. But Democrats should leave themselves in a position to say yes if that long shot comes home. They would accomplish a great good for a huge number of blameless people — and for the country.

IMO, this was a defensible position last spring, when Trump seemed willing to exchange a path to citizenship for Dreamers for $25B for the wall. Sure, the wall was as dumb, racist and wasteful then as it is now. But giving relief to a million or so young people who are Americans in every sense but the official paperwork seemed a worthwhile trade to me.

But, as the WaPo editors themselves note, Trump killed that deal by demanding deep cuts to legal immigration, and he kicked off the current crisis by rejecting a deal he said he’d sign — all to appease unelected, racist screechers who have no legitimate role in driving policy.

The words “committing unequivocally” are utterly meaningless when applied to a pathological liar with no set principles nor an agenda beyond self-enrichment and soaking up real or pretend adulation from a motley assortment of white supremacists, plutocrat water-carriers and neocon warmongers. Trump has demonstrated this daily for going on two years now, most recently with a whipsaw walk-back on withdrawing troops from Syria.

Trying to make a deal with this particular devil isn’t a “long shot” — it’s political malpractice. We can’t trust Trump to follow through on any concessions he might offer to end the tantrum. And, to state the obvious, rewarding this extortion attempt will encourage further hostage-taking.

So far, the Democrats are hanging tough. But this editorial page caviling from The Post is a bad sign that the Both Sidesing is beginning in earnest. If you’re lucky enough to be represented by Democrats, maybe give their offices a call and thank them for not caving. If you (like me) are unfortunately represented by Republicans, tell them the Trump shutdown is hurting your community and they need to stop propping up the lying clown.

As for tonight’s address, I hear CNN at least is going to air Pelosi and Schumer’s rebuttal. I hope they’ll call out the lies and insist on a reality-based immigration debate. There’s no point in trying not to offend Trump’s idiotic voters, and there’s no obligation to “respect the office” when it’s held by a degenerate fraud.

Most Americans know Trump is a liar, so I’d go with that, plus maybe outline some actual solutions to real problems.

Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Same As It Ever Was

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Leopards-Eating-Faces-Party Open Thread: Even the Hardcore MAGAts Are Getting Restless

Guess this is why the Repubs decided Granpa Ranty needed some broad-spectrum media exposure for WALL!!!(tm) The basest of The Base are beginning to suspect they’re not his top priority… and the Elite Media Village Idiots are no longer pushing the Big Lie with the same sweaty enthusiasm:

MARIANNA, Fla. — A federal prison here in Florida’s rural Panhandle lost much of its roof and fence during Hurricane Michael in October, forcing hundreds of inmates to relocate to a facility in Yazoo City, Miss., more than 400 miles away.

Since then, corrections officers have had to commute there to work, a seven-hour drive, for two-week stints. As of this week, thanks to the partial federal government shutdown, they will be doing it without pay — no paychecks and no reimbursement for gas, meals and laundry, expenses that can run hundreds of dollars per trip…

In Florida, where Republicans dominated the November midterms and the state’s only Democratic senator went down in defeat, conservative towns like Marianna — along with farm communities in the South and Midwest, and towns across the country that depend on tourism revenue from scaled-back national parks — will help measure the solidity of public support for Mr. Trump and his decision to wager some of the operations of the federal government on a border wall with Mexico.

Jim Dean, Marianna’s city manager, said he had already been concerned, even before the shutdown, that the hurricane would prompt public agencies to consider reducing their footprint in the region. What if an extended shutdown contributed to keeping the prison closed indefinitely?

“I worry about the government pulling out of rural America,” he said.

This, after all, is one of many towns across the country where private industries are few and the federal government is intimately connected to livelihoods. Wedged near the border with Alabama and Georgia, Marianna’s 7,000 residents depend on the federal medium-security prison to employ nearly 300 people in good-paying jobs with attractive benefits…
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Would You Believe?… Open Thread: “President” Maxwell S-M-R-T

He’s not trying to ‘change minds’, of course; he’s trying to prop up his shrinking base. And his Repub enablers are here for it!

Normal people, not so much:

Ominous foreshadowing music…