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Open Thread: “Doing Nothing Is No Longer Acceptable”

by Anne Laurie|  September 9, 20199:31 pm| 58 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, gun safety, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

NEW: @GiffordsCourage releases video featuring 8 Dem presidential candidates urging action on gun violence, 1st part of bigger series on Dem field/guns

Candidates featured:@BetoORourke@ewarren@PeteButtigieg@CoryBooker@JoeBiden@KamalaHarris@BernieSanders@amyklobuchar pic.twitter.com/cLXzYEN7od

— Johnny Verhovek (@JTHVerhovek) September 9, 2019

Damn fine ad, IMO…

We are witnessing a sea change in the Democratic Party on gun control.https://t.co/KSvghtfser

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 7, 2019

BIDEN, SANDERS, WARREN and BUTTIGIEG aren’t calling for forced buybacks — they want to ban mew sales of AR-15-style guns and make it optional to sell the ones currently in circulation to the government.https://t.co/KSvghtfser

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 7, 2019

.@BetoORourke: “We must go the necessary steps further, as politically difficult as they may be—a gun registry in this country, licensing for every firearm, and every single one of those AR-15 and AK-47s will be bought back so they’re not on our streets.”https://t.co/KSvghtfser

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 8, 2019


Good for Mr. O’Rourke. He may have decided that going full “gun-grabber” is the best position for him at this time — if it isn’t what the horse-race touts like to call a ‘deal changer’ for his own campaign, at least it keeps the topic front & center in the media.

In NH, I pressed Beto O'Rourke on how he'd enforce a mandatory buyback of assault weapons. What's the penalty for noncompliance? Jail time? He wouldn't go there.

"I would expect Americans to comply with the law."https://t.co/KSvghtfser

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 9, 2019


(Let the frothing proponents of the LAWNORDER!!! party defend ‘… but only if it’s laws I happen to agree with’ in public, during a high-profile election season.)

Open Thread: “Doing Nothing Is No Longer Acceptable”Post + Comments (58)

Gun Safety Open Thread: Well Said, Mr. O’Rourke

by Anne Laurie|  September 1, 20199:37 am| 142 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, gun safety, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

I've got mixed feelings about this crop of candidates and all are flawed human beings.

But this primary is doing a really good job of shifting Dem messaging where it needs to be. https://t.co/fgaWXdvzIw

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 31, 2019

We don't know how many have been killed. We don't know the motivation. But here's what we do know: This is fucked up. pic.twitter.com/NRvyPfUjiM

— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) September 1, 2019

Gun Safety Open Thread: Well Said, Mr. O’RourkePost + Comments (142)

Breaking News: Another Weekend, Another Mass Shooting in Texas

by Adam L Silverman|  August 31, 20197:15 pm| 61 Comments

This post is in: America, Ammosexuals, Gun Issues, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Silverman on Security

BREAKING: Police report "multiple gunshot victims" after suspect hijacks mail truck in Odessa, Texas, and begins shooting at random.

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 31, 2019

As of now there are at least 5 dead and 21 wounded and/or otherwise injured in a mass shooting spree in Odessa, Texas. The shooter was killed by the responding law enforcement officers and was a white male in his mid 30s. According to police reports to the news media, he attacked the cop who pulled him over for a traffic stop and after shooting the officer he hijacked a mail truck, took off, and went on a spree shooting.

As always, this will be a fast moving story and details are likely to change as today moves into tomorrow.

Open thread!

 

Breaking News: Another Weekend, Another Mass Shooting in TexasPost + Comments (61)

The Parkland Peace Plan

by Betty Cracker|  August 21, 201911:10 am| 72 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Politics, General Stupidity

As predicted last week, Trump is already caving on his latest feint toward gun safety legislation after promising to “look very strongly” at universal background checks and red flag laws in the wake of the El Paso and Dayton massacres — this despite the fabled moderating influence of Ivanka.

The NRA is at its lowest ebb in decades. Board members and employees are running from the organization like Trump White House lackeys fleeing a process server. Even a Fox News personality called out the epic corruption of the NRA’s Trump-scale tacky-grandiose chief Wayne LaPierre last week. So this cave is the latest data point on Trump’s crap negotiating skills.

My husband is famously bad at negotiating. Our daughter and I still tease him about walking into a Ford dealership several years ago, clapping eyes on his future truck and exclaiming, “Oh my GOD! I LOVE it!” right in front of the salesman. We were fleeced most thoroughly soon after, of course, and the mister is no longer permitted to even ATTEND major purchase events.

But the mister is steely-eyed and canny at the long table in comparison to the credulous fool in the White House, who has handed over our economic fate to China’s Xi, been pantsed by tin-pot dictators worldwide and sports Vladimir Putin’s brand on his ass. In that context, it’s no wonder the weakened sociopaths at the NRA were able to vaporize Trump’s mealy-mouthed resolve to “look very strongly” at new gun safety regulations with a single phone call.

Luckily, the March for Our Lives group, founded by Parkland massacre survivors, isn’t waiting around for Trump to nut up. This morning, they released an ambitious gun safety proposal: A Peace Plan for a Safer America. Here are its main points:

1. CHANGE THE STANDARDS OF GUN OWNERSHIP: Advocate and pass legislation to raise the national standard for gun ownership: a national licensing and registry system that promotes responsible gun ownership; a ban on assault weapons, high-capacity magazines, and other weapons of war; policies to disarm gun owners who pose a risk to themselves or others; and a national gun buy-back program to reduce the estimated 265-393 million firearms in circulation by at least 30%.

2. HALVE THE RATE OF GUN DEATHS IN 10 YEARS: Mobilize an urgent and comprehensive federal response: declare a national emergency around gun violence and announce an audacious goal to reduce gun injuries and deaths by 50% in 10 years, thereby saving up to 200,000 American lives.

3. ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE GUN LOBBY AND INDUSTRY: Hold the gun lobby and industry accountable for decades of illegal behavior and misguided policies intended to shield only themselves; reexamine the District of Columbia v. Heller interpretation of the Second Amendment; initiate both FEC and IRS investigations into the NRA, and fully repeal the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

4. NAME A DIRECTOR OF GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION: Appoint a National Director of Gun Violence Prevention (GVP) who reports directly to the President, with the mandate to operationalize our federal goals and empower existing federal agencies such as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) – agencies that have all been structurally weakened by the gun lobby. The National Director of GVP would begin by overseeing a down payment of $250 million in annual funding for research by the CDC and other federal agencies on gun violence prevention.

5. GENERATE COMMUNITY-BASED SOLUTIONS: Fully fund targeted interventions addressing the intersectional dimensions of gun violence, including community-based urban violence reduction programs, suicide prevention programs, domestic violence prevention programs, mental and behavioral health service programs, and programs to address police violence in our communities.

6. EMPOWER THE NEXT GENERATION: Automatically register eligible voters and mail voter registration cards to all Americans when they turn 18. Create the “Safety Corps,” a Peace Corps for gun violence prevention. The younger generations are disproportionately affected by gun violence. They should have a say in how their country solves this epidemic.

It’s a smart plan that frames gun violence as a national health issue that reaches far beyond mass shootings. And it focuses on political mobilization, which is critical. It also signals that the Parkland group possesses political savvy that morons like Trump, his dingbat daughter and wastrel son-in-law can’t begin to match. Unlike those clowns, the Parkland kids are building on the past work they’ve done nationwide and swinging for the fences when opponents are at a weak point.

Senator Murphy of Connecticut sees hope (The Post):

“My hope is that they focus like a laser on youth turnout,” Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) said of March for Our Lives’s 2020 efforts, after reviewing the proposal. “The election is over the minute young people decide to turn out. The only reason that Trump would get reelected is if young people stay home. The issue of gun violence is one of the only issues that truly motivate young people to shake off their indifference and aversion to voting.”

Democrats, who in the past would at least nod toward gun owners and do photo ops while hunting, are embracing gun control with greater urgency than they have in any election in recent memory, a sign that they are sensing movement among voters. During the 2018 midterms, when Democrats recaptured the House majority, nearly 70 percent of registered voters said gun policy was “very important” to them, ranking the issue ahead of taxes and immigration, according to a survey by the Pew Research Center.

This is what we’ve lacked — a sense of urgency to match that of the gun nuts. But thanks to the gun nuts’ maximal resistance to commonsense positions backed by 90% of Americans — and the insane among that group’s limitless appetite for mass murder — the pendulum might finally swing toward sanity, and perhaps a lot further than seemed possible even a couple of years ago.

You can read more about the plan, sign the petition and donate to March for Our Lives here.

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Ding Dong (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  August 16, 20195:35 pm| 123 Comments

This post is in: Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Sociopaths

Friends, let us savor (even though the fare is provided by Politico):

‘I’m worried’: Allies fear NRA has lost its power in Washington

The National Rifle Association’s internal turmoil is preventing the once-mighty organization from crafting a plan to blunt the latest gun control push, highlighting the group’s weakness at a crucial political moment.

The disarray at the NRA is alarming allies who say President Donald Trump and Congress appear to have a brief opening to pass legislation while the group is so politically feeble it isn’t able to aggressively lobby lawmakers against proposals or hold them accountable for their votes, according to a half-dozen Republicans familiar with the situation…

Multiple Republican Senate offices said they haven’t heard from the NRA, which touts 5 million members. The NRA has been slow to respond to the litany of scandals. And Trump has told aides the NRA is vulnerable and on the verge of being “bankrupt,” according to a Republican close to the White House.

The article says Republicans are worried that meaningful gun safety legislation will be passed in the short term. They needn’t be. Trump has already moved on to blaming mass shootings on the closure of old-timey insane asylums.

It’s perfectly on-brand for Trump to question the death merchant lobbyist’s fiscal health after they gave him $30 million in 2016, but a Venn diagram of gun nuts and Trump supporters would be damned close to a perfect circle, so he’s unlikely to cross the NRA in any significant way.

Still, it’s glorious to see the blood-gargling sociopaths at the NRA engulfed in cascading corruption scandals like common TV preachers. LaPierre seems determined to cling to power, which is great news for people who wish the organization a messy, protracted demise.

An unfavorable election cycle that sweeps NRA toadies out the door might finally wrest political power from the organization’s cold, bloody hands. It wouldn’t solve our gun nut problem, but it sure would make it harder for gun nuts to impose their will on the majority of Americans. A girl can dream, anyway.

Open thread!

Ding Dong (Open Thread)Post + Comments (123)

Ongoing Active Shooter in Philadelphia!

by Adam L Silverman|  August 14, 20198:37 pm| 98 Comments

This post is in: America, Ammosexuals, Crazification Factor, Gun Issues, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Silverman on Security

This appears to have started about 4 hours ago and is still ongoing. It apparently started while Philadelphia Police were trying to serve a warrant.

Officers were serving a narcotics warrant in a Philadelphia house this afternoon and had entered the premises when gunfire erupted, with a shooter firing multiple rounds, says Philadelphia police commissioner. https://t.co/0Z5DJDEsnH pic.twitter.com/uuBqMiveVK

— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 15, 2019

NBC25/FOX66 Breaking News – NBC News reports an active shooter situation in Philadelphia where police were shot at in a North Philly neighborhood. According to CBS3, at least four officers have been rushed to the hospital. (CNN, KYW video) pic.twitter.com/v8XC7pi2z7

— Bill Harris (@BillHarrisTV) August 14, 2019

Philadelphia police commissioner says he is “not sure” that there is just one shooter in active standoff in city. https://t.co/0Z5DJDEsnH pic.twitter.com/JK2XyUszkm

— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 15, 2019

And that despite taking casualties, the Philadelphia Police Department is trying to end this without further violence.

A male shooter “continues to fire rounds out of the window,” as authorities attempt to speak with him, “trying to let him know he can end this peacefully now,” says Philadelphia police commissioner of active standoff https://t.co/0Z5DJDEsnH pic.twitter.com/Tc2CJvIqvd

— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 15, 2019

Philadelphia police commissioner says the six officers struck by gunfire in shooting are in “stable condition.” https://t.co/0Z5DJDEsnH pic.twitter.com/Odga6WQs7J

— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 15, 2019

From Philadelphia Police Department Sergeant Eric Gripp:

Shooting incident 3700 N 15th Street. Suspect/(s) firing at police. Large police presence. AVOID AREA

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

MEDIA HELICOPTERS: PULL BACK FROM THE AREA – YOU ARE HINDERING OPERATIONS

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

Shooting situation ACTIVE and ONGOING on 3700 15th St. Avoid Area. Several PPD Officers have been injured. Updates will be provided as received

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

Update – Multiple injuries to Officers. 5 PPD Officers Shot – at area hospitals with non life-threatening injuries. Shooting still active. Avoid area. MEDIA – STOP BROADCASTING TACTICAL POSITIONS OF OFFICERS

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

Suspect is still firing. STAY OUT OF THE AREA

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

UPDATE: Suspect is still firing. SIX (6) PPD Officers shot – at area hospitals with non life threatening injuries. Additional officers also receiving treatment for non-gunshot injuries. Continue to avoid area. Situation is active and ongoing.

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

UPDATE 7PM – Situation is active and ongoing. 6 PPD Officers shot – continue to receive treatment at area hospitals. Shooter is still armed inside location. AVOID AREA

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

Officers are attempting to communicate with the shooter; imploring him to surrender and avoid further injuries.

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

Officers continue to attempt to communicate with suspect; suspect is still firing at officers. STAY AWAY FROM THE AREA.

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

Parents/Guardians of Children from Shake, Rattle & Roll Learning Center at 3625 N. Broad, and Precious Babies Daycare at 1433 Erie: You can retrieve your children at 3643 Germantown Ave on the Bus out front

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 14, 2019

.@PPDCommish "We are trying to get him to come out peacefully, but he is refusing to do so."

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 15, 2019

To reiterate: Scene remains active and ongoing. Officers continue to implore suspect to surrender – this can end without any further violence. Continue to avoid area

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 15, 2019

Media and citizens: Do not operate drones in the area of police operations.

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 15, 2019

Update at 9:47 PM EDT

Update: 2 PPD Officers who were in house with shooter have been safely evacuated by PPD SWAT. Suspect is still armed and inside house. Continue to avoid the area.

— Eric Gripp (@PPDEricGripp) August 15, 2019

Open thread!

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All That’s Missing From This Story Is an Alligator, a Golf Cart, and Several Kilos of Cocaine: Approaching Peak Floriduh! Man

by Adam L Silverman|  August 11, 20199:24 pm| 78 Comments

This post is in: Ammosexuals, Because of wow., Gun Issues, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Floriduh Man, Floriduh Woman

Welcome to the Gunshine State!

Is that a GLOCK in your orgy party outfit pocket or are you just happy to see me?

Take it away Daytona Beach News-Journal!

A 9 mm Glock was taken from a bedroom during a sex party, in which guests wore masks during the orgy and were encouraged to use code names, deputies say

A handgun was swiped from a Deltona home during a weekend sex party and the gun owner couldn’t give detectives any names of possible suspects because the culprit — like the 20 or so other guests at the party — was wearing a mask, deputies said.

“We’re probably not going to solve this one,” Volusia County Sheriff’s Sgt. Todd Smith said during a public meeting Thursday. “And DNA (identification) is not going to be an option.”

The 9 mm Glock was holstered and lying on top of a nightstand in the master bedroom when it was stolen, the homeowner told deputies. It was taken during an orgy, in which the theme was anonymous sex, according to a report.

Guests who were invited to the party near Saxon Boulevard were encouraged to “come and go as they pleased” throughout the weekend and were told to bring friends and acquaintances if they so desired, the report stated.

Additionally, guests were told to use fictitious names or no name at all, the homeowner told the Sheriff’s Office.

The orgy took place July 19-21 and deputies were contacted a few days later. On July 26, the detective assigned to the case called the homeowner for more information, but he seemed “apprehensive” about giving further details.

The homeowner eventually told the detective that 20 or so people were in his house that weekend and he guessed that he only knew five or six of them, the report stated.

The party was advertised on a social media site, deputies said.

All this needed to achieve peak Floriduh! Man is an alligator, a golf cart, and several kilos of cocaine!

Open thread!

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