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Definitely Not the Armed Intelligentsia: Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District Called, Their Idiot Is Missing

by Adam L Silverman|  January 4, 20219:06 pm| 195 Comments

This post is in: America, Ammosexuals, Crazification Factor, Domestic Politics, Election 2020, Gun Issues, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Silverman on Security

Yesterday, aside from getting into a tag team pissing match on the House floor over wearing masks, Lauren Boebert, the new member of Congress from Colorado’s 3rd congressional district, released an ad on social media explaining why she’ll be concealed carrying her GLOCK in both Washington, DC and in the Capitol. Here’s the ad:

Let me tell you why I WILL carry my Glock to Congress.

Government does NOT get to tell me or my constituents how we are allowed to keep our families safe.

I promise to always stand strong for our 2nd Amendment rights.https://t.co/E75tYpdN4B pic.twitter.com/qg7QGenrNo

— Lauren Boebert (@laurenboebert) January 4, 2021

Fun Filled Lollipop

There’s some issues here. Carrying in the Capitol is not one of the legal ones. It is legal for members of Congress to carry in the Capitol under a House rule created in 1967. Washington, DC, however, is another matter. In order to carry in Washington, DC one must have a Washington, DC conceal carry permit. Here are the eligibility requirements:

  1. Must be 21 years of age or older (18-21 with the authorization or a parent or guardian)
  2. Not convicted of a weapons offense, or a felony in any jurisdiction (including a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year).
  3. Not under indictment for a crime of violence or a weapons offense.
  4. Not convicted within the past five years for narcotics or dangerous drug offense, a threat to do bodily harm, or for assault.
  5. Not acquitted of any criminal charge by reason of insanity or adjudicated a chronic alcoholic by any court within the past five years.
  6. Not voluntarily or involuntarily committed to any mental hospital or institution within the past five years.
  7. Not suffer from any physical defect that would make it unsafe for you to possess and use a firearm safely and responsibly.
  8. Not found negligent in any firearm related mishap causing death or injury to another person.
  9. Not convicted of a misdemeanor intrafamily offense.
  10. Not dishonorably discharged from the U.S. Armed Forces.
  11. Not a citizen of the United States who has renounced his or her citizenship.
  12. Not legally blind.
  13. Not convicted of two or more violations for driving under the influence within the past five years.
  14. Not the subject of a civil protection order within the past five years.
  15. Not convicted of Stalking within the past five years.
  16. Not convicted of negligent storage of a firearm or a violation of the Firearms Registration Act within the past five years.
  17. Not had a history of violent behavior within the past five years.
  18. Has completed firearms training provided free of charge by the Metropolitan Police Department.

And here are the suitability requirements:

In addition to meeting all of the Eligibility Requirements to Register a Firearm, an individual applying to carry a concealed firearm must meet the follwing suitability requirements:

  1. Meets all the requirements for a person registering a firearm.
  2. Completed a firearms training course by an instructor certified by the Chief ( You may apply for an exemption based on previous training within the past 2 years)
  3. Is not presently an alcoholic, addict, or habitual user of a controlled dangerous substance, unless the habitual use of a controlled dangerous substance is under licensed medical direction.
  4. Has not exhibited propensity for violence or instability that may reasonably render a person’s possession of a concealed pistol a danger to the person or another.
  5. Does not currently suffer nor has suffered in the previous five years from any mental disorder, illness, or condition that creates a substantial risk that he or she is a danger to himself or herself or others.

What you can’t just do is show up in DC, regardless of one’s professional status – say a member of Congress – and just stroll around while strapped. Depending on whether Boebert actually filmed that strolling around DC or the whole thing is green screen, she has likely already committed a felony in DC. That is actually one of the least concerning things in that video. Let’s run a few down.

  1. Given the way she is carrying her GLOCK – and it appears to be a GLOCK 19 – at around the 5:00 to 5:30 position on her strong side with the holster outside the waistband and inside her belt, there is no way she didn’t muzzle herself while holstering. She’s high waisted and her butt is sticking way out because of the very high spike heels she’s wearing. There also isn’t a lot of cant on the holster either. The only way to get the muzzle of that GLOCK, which is a compact/carry size handgun, into the top of that holster is to tip the muzzle towards ones own lower back in order to get the muzzle into the holster before straightening the gun out and pushing it down into the holster. I’m almost 100% sure she did muzzle herself because if she hadn’t, the video wouldn’t have been edited to obscure how the gun gets into the holster as she holsters it. And given that this is a GLOCK and does not have a frame/thumb safety, just GLOCK’s Safe Action trigger safety – aka the trigger dingus – this isn’t like holstering a 1911 or a classic P Series or a Beretta FS92.
  2. She’s printing. Even if she and the video producers hadn’t bothered to highlight where she was carrying, because her heels push out her butt, which increases the arch of her lower back ,you can clearly see that she has something large under the back of her jacket.
  3. She’s carrying under a buttoned cover between 5:00 to 5:30 on her strong side. She’s not inside the waistband carrying, which would be impossible in jeans that tight. Not wearing jeans that tight is not something she would do because what she’s selling – both to her restaurant’s customers and to her potential voters is the sexy and hyper-sexualized gun bunny – there’s no way for her to get the cover garment/jacket out of the way, get the gun unholstered and unlimbered, and then presented on target before someone who was close and menacing her was on top of her. I teach martial arts. When I had my own dojo at USAWC I was teaching colonels, lieutenant colonels, generals, and spouses. The bulk of my students had spent the better part of the past 15 years deployed and carrying both sidearms and carbines in war zones. I would teach defenses against rushing attackers. Every one of my students, all with multiple deployments to Iraq and/or Afghanistan, got flummoxed when I’d charge them from within 30 feet. It takes a lot of training to be able to actually respond properly when someone is charging you. Basically she’s advertising to everyone she’s carrying, where on her body she carries, and because of where she’s carrying and how she’s dressing around the gun to carry she can’t get the gun out in the few seconds it would take for someone to get hands on her from within 30 feet.

There are a few other issues here. She carries a GLOCK 19. The standard magazine for the GLOCK 19 takes fifteen rounds, though it will take larger magazines. DC only allows 10 round magazines. So she’s either going to have to modify her magazines or buy the special 10 round magazines that fit the GLOCK 19.

I would also like to argue that contrary to her claims, Washington, DC is not particularly dangerous. I’ve walked all over DC while I’ve been on Temporary Duty there. Day or night. In business attire or in casual clothes. And while I realize I’m a 5’11, 268 lbs white male who is built like the guys who do Strongman competitions, I’ve never felt even remotely unsafe doing so.

What remains to be seen is whether Boebert has 1) already broken DC law by actually filming most of that video of her walking around conceal carrying in actual DC instead of in front of a green screen before she has gotten a DC conceal carry permit, 2) if she has violated the DC law regarding the size of the magazine in her GLOCK 19, and 3) whether she has actually bothered to get a DC permit yet.

One of the whole points behind conceal carrying is the phrase “concealed means concealed”. Specifically you don’t talk about, advertise, or otherwise acknowledge if you are or are not armed at any given time. This includes doing everything possible to make sure you aren’t printing. Not because printing is illegal per se (depends on the jurisdiction), but because the idea is that if no one knows if you or anyone else is carrying, no one has an advantage if they decide to attack you. Everything that Congresswoman Boebert has done in this ad, which is designed to bring in donations and rile up her constituents back in Rifle, Colorado, is tactically stupid. She’s advertised to the entire world that she is and will carry, where on her body she is carrying, and having the weapon print because of how she carries. Anyone who wants to basically take her gun from her and feed it to her now has the upper hand.

Moron Labe!

Open thread.

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Break Out the Tiny Violins: Hard Times for the Gun-Humpers

by Anne Laurie|  November 29, 20207:10 pm| 129 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Gun Issues, gun safety

After disputing allegations of misspending for years, the NRA tries to come clean — new tax filing says current and former execs misused the nonprofit’s funds for personal gain. w/ @CarolLeonnig https://t.co/GdMENP9NmF

— Beth Reinhard (@bethreinhard) November 25, 2020

Our bad!… no, really, them bad. They’re trying to save Chief Grifter LaPierre’s worthless arse by blaming the guys who’ve already been thrown off the sledge:

… The NRA said in the filing that it continues to review the alleged abuse of funds, as the tax-exempt organization curtails services and runs up multimillion-dollar legal bills. The assertion of impropriety comes four months after the attorney general of New York state filed a lawsuit accusing NRA chief executive Wayne LaPierre and other top executives of using NRA funds for decades to provide inflated salaries and expense accounts.

The tax return, which The Washington Post obtained from the organization, says the NRA “became aware during 2019 of a significant diversion of its assets.” The 2019 filing states that LaPierre and five former executives received “excess benefits,” a term the IRS uses to describe executives’ enriching themselves at the expense of a nonprofit entity.

The disclosures in the tax return suggest that the organization is standing by its 71-year-old chief executive while continuing to pursue former executives of the group. The filing says that LaPierre “corrected” his financial lapses with a repayment and contends that former executives “improperly” used NRA funds or charged the nonprofit for expenses that were “not appropriate.”…

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The tax filing acknowledges that there are disputes over the alleged financial abuses the NRA blames on the departed officers, including former board president Oliver North and former chief lobbyist Chris Cox.

Some of those executives parted ways with LaPierre over his leadership and are cooperating with the New York attorney general’s investigation, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the ongoing investigation…

LaPierre personally signed the 2019 tax return; such a document is customarily signed by the organization’s treasurer. “He is putting himself on the line, under penalties of perjury, which is what you do if you are trying to get in someone’s good graces,” Hackney said.

New York lawyer and expert on nonprofits Daniel Kurtz said, “It’s a smart move by the NRA instead of digging in their heels, though who knows how they came up with the numbers. It’s an admission of wrongdoing, for sure.”…

The new tax documents portray an organization trimming costs and struggling as membership dues and other revenue declined even before the coronavirus pandemic curbed charitable fundraising nationwide. The NRA reported a $12.2 million operating shortfall last year, up from $2.7 million the previous year. This is the fourth year in a row the organization has reported spending more than it took in.

The one area where the NRA’s expenses are growing: legal costs, which soared in 2019 to $38.5 million from $25 million in 2018. Ackerman McQueen was the NRA’s highest paid contractor for years, churning out provocative marketing campaigns and broadcasts, until the relationship disintegrated in a litigious squabble last year. Now the NRA’s single largest vendor is the Dallas law firm headed by William Brewer, which was paid nearly $25 million last year…

To reiterate: The NRA is not a gun organization with a lobbying arm, it’s a grift lobbying business with a gun-related trademark.

Related topics, from a longer thread:

To distill @mattyglesias' take: gun politics are bad for Democrats, gun policies aren’t effective enough to be worth the sacrifice, so progressives should just cede the issue in favor of other priorities. Why I think he’s wrong (a thread): https://t.co/5KxgAnMMF7

— Ted Alcorn (@TedAlcorn) November 26, 2020

But are gun politics really bad for Democrats? Yglesias argues that reformers’ message invariably collapses into “gun control > gun rights,” which polls poorly and puts them fundamentally at odds with gun owners. But to end gun violence we need not take the path of “gun control.

— Ted Alcorn (@TedAlcorn) November 26, 2020

The science backs focused deterrence & violence interruption to address community violence, lethal means counseling & protection orders to reduce suicide, & yes, commonsense laws strengthening norms for safely selling & storing guns. @Abt_Thomas https://t.co/o5axWsQtef

— Ted Alcorn (@TedAlcorn) November 26, 2020

Yglesias is beholden to the old myth that gun hobbyists are some uber-powerful bloc—but they’ve never been more than a fraction of the population, and they're increasingly matched by single-issue voters on the other side who have finally gotten organized. https://t.co/Me3BpF2PaW

— Ted Alcorn (@TedAlcorn) November 26, 2020

Bottom-line: if you do the hard work of building public support, addressing a national scourge (and one that falls grossly unevenly across the population) through moderate and evidence-based means can be good politics and good policy.

— Ted Alcorn (@TedAlcorn) November 26, 2020

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Things Are Getting Sporty In Lansing: Sauce for the Goose Edition

by Adam L Silverman|  May 6, 202011:36 pm| 131 Comments

This post is in: America, Ammosexuals, Civil Rights, Domestic Politics, Election 2020, Gun Issues, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Political Action, Politics, Post-racial America, Silverman on Security

The response to this is going to be very, very, very interesting!

Here's video of that moment, courtesy of @CityPulse pic.twitter.com/AfQmGeoi4X

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) May 6, 2020

From Kyle Kaminski at The Lansing CityPulse:

WEDNESDAY, May 6 — After a hoard of armed and angry protesters swarmed Lansing last week, State Rep. Sarah Anthony brought some extra protection on her way to the State Capitol today.

At least three African Americans carrying large rifles escorted Anthony across Capitol Avenue earlier this morning so she could safely attend committee meetings without fear of intimidation. She said she didn’t necessarily request the help, but welcomed the extra security nonetheless.

“We were all just appalled by the lack of support and lack of security that I had, that other legislators had, and the fact that a lot of the demonstrators last week were adorning many racist, anti-Semitic signage. I think it just triggered a lot of folks, especially African Americans.”

Anthony and other lawmakers met this morning for an appropriations committee meeting. The scene was quiet. Anthony’s cadre of Second Amendment advocates had no trouble entering the building. They left to quietly stand on the front steps after Anthony made it inside an elevator.

“We want to change the narrative, first of all. We want people to understand that people of color can come out here with guns just the same as anybody else can,” said Michael Lynn Jr., a black Lansing firefighter and community activist who helped organize Anthony’s security detail.

Lynn watched a video that Anthony posted to Facebook as the protest formed last week. In it, she looked on from her office across the street as protestors slowly crowded the Capitol Lawn carrying Confederate flags, Nazi symbolism, nooses and other blatantly racist forms of imagery.

After some demonstrators eventually made it inside the building last week, one maskless and gun-toting protester got so close to Anthony’s face that she could smell his breath. And lawmakers shouldn’t be scared to come into work because of armed intimidation, she said.

“The majority of the protesters were white,” Anthony said. “I’m still not exactly sure on the connection between confederate flags and Nazi symbolism. They just had no connection to the stay-at-home orders. The fact they were carrying guns openly while we voted was unnerving.”

Anthony’s concerns are largely based on a “complete failure” of the Michigan State Police to maintain adequate security, she explained. She didn’t find out until this week that police could have escorted her to her car after she left the Capitol. No other security measures were mentioned.

“It was just unnerving to me as a woman and as a person,” Anthony said, noting that Capitol sergeants otherwise do an adequate job keeping lawmakers inside safe. “These community volunteers today won’t be needed all the time, but they wanted to have a presence today.”

Because Lynn is black, he suspects that cops would’ve been a bit more cautious — and perhaps violent — had his group been as boisterous as some of the crowds last week. He wanted to prove a point that Second Amendment rights aren’t limited on the basis of race.

“I could hear the fear in her voice during that protest,” Lynn explained. “It was the visual of her being that scared to go to work. It meant we had to do something. We came out here today to make sure we could provide some protection, even if it’s only just to make her feel better.”

Much more at the link.

The last time something like this was attempted was when the Black Panthers in California exploited a loophole in California state law and carried unloaded long guns with them everywhere. Including the state capitol to peaceably assemble to petition the state governance for redress of their grievances. While a bunch of nice, white, suburban school kids were visiting on a field trip to have lunch with the recently elected Governor Ronald Reagan. The California legislature pushed significant gun control legislation through and Governor Reagan signed it into law so fast that then 18 year old Wayne LaPierre’s head nearly spun off its axis!

As I wrote up top, it will be very, very, very interesting to see the response to Mr. Lynn’s actions in protecting Representative Anthony.

Open thread!

* Just a quick technical note regarding the tweet. The rifle carried by the guy next to state Representative Anthony is an AR style pistol with a stabilizing brace carbine. So it is not only not a large rifle, but is, at best, an equivalent in size to a short barreled rifle.

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Armed fanatics in Virginia

by Betty Cracker|  January 20, 202010:26 am| 118 Comments

This post is in: Gun Issues, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Politics

Please stay safe, Virginians; armed fanatics are roaming around:

Big groups of heavily armed men arriviving in Richmond, many in camo and body armor pic.twitter.com/N9SqKQadia

— Ned Oliver (@nedoliver) January 20, 2020

The other photos in reporters’ Twitter feeds are surreal. There’s an Info Wars armored vehicle rolling around too. It’s worth remembering what inspired these lunatics to intimidate their fellow citizens and attempt to cow lawmakers:

Three bills that will prohibit firearm possession in public spaces, limit monthly handgun purchases, and require background checks for firearm transfers passed the state Senate on Thursday, marking the first of stronger gun-control legislation proposed by the new Democratic majority in the General Assembly.

That’s it. There’s an exemption for transfer of firearms between family members, so there’s not even the excuse of opposing laws that impede the generational transmittal of grandpappy’s shootin’ arn.

For what it’s worth, I think the gun-humpers will lose this battle eventually. Allowing unfettered access to weapons that can kill dozens of people in under a minute just isn’t sustainable long term. The question is how much blood will be shed before sanity prevails. Here’s hoping none is shed today.

Open thread.

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Breaking: Shooting at Duncan, Oklahoma Wal-Mart

by Adam L Silverman|  November 18, 201911:52 am| 25 Comments

This post is in: America, Ammosexuals, Gun Issues, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Silverman on Security

There has been a shooting at the Wal-Mart in Duncan, Oklahoma.

Duncan Police Department have confirmed the suspect in this morning's Walmart shooting is dead. The Duncan Banner is meeting with DPD in 15 to 20 minutes for a media update. https://t.co/wyBzbYvXoj

— Duncan Banner (@DuncanBanner) November 18, 2019

There aren’t a lot of details available. Duncan is about 90 minutes south of Oklahoma City. The local police department doesn’t appear to have a Twitter account and the county sheriff’s office’s Twitter account is secured and not open to the public. The Duncan Banner, the local newspaper, has most of the available details:

Duncan Police Department have confirmed the suspect in this morning’s Walmart shooting is dead. It is confirmed three are dead, including the suspect.

District Attorney Jason Hicks is on the scene. He has confirmed the scene is contained and this is not an active shooter situation anymore.

The Duncan Banner is meeting with DPD in 15 to 20 minutes for a media update.

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At approximately 9:54 a.m. calls on the police scanner indicated a shooting at Walmart with three down and suspect still at large. The suspect, according to DPD, is now dead.

Red River Tech is on lock down. Duncan Public Schools is on lock down as well. According to Tom Deighan with Duncan Public Schools, schools are on lockdown and school will continue as normal inside. The district says parents should not try to pick up their child at this time. Children will not be released because of the lockdown protocol.

It is unclear at this time how severe the injuries of the victims are. The Banner will update more as information becomes available. Please use caution when traveling in this area and be aware of law enforcement as they work to secure the scene.

The shooting has made the national cable news, which is how I heard about it, but there doesn’t appear to be video or even large scale local TV news coverage because of where Duncan is. As is almost always the case with these types of events, information is going to come out in fits and starts and will likely be adjusted and revised as new, better, and more accurate information becomes available.

Open thread!

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Breaking: Saugus High School Shooting

by Adam L Silverman|  November 14, 201911:32 am| 99 Comments

This post is in: Ammosexuals, Gun Issues, Gun nuts, gun safety, Open Threads, Silverman on Security

Shooter at Saugus HS. Several injured. LASD resources on site and searching for suspect. Will be locking down area schools. Advise residents to shelter in place and report any suspicious activity

— Undersheriff Tim Murakami (@LASDMurakami) November 14, 2019

There’s been another school shooting. This time at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita, CA. The LA County Sheriffs Office is currently reporting 3 wounded dead. The other schools in the area are on lockdown as the shooter is still at large.

#LASD The following surrounding schools are on lock down Highlands Elementary and Rosedale Elementary in Santa Clarita Valley. https://t.co/unZtMYRrmG

— LA County Sheriffs (@LASDHQ) November 14, 2019

This is an active shooter situation. The suspect described to be a male Asian, black clothing is outstanding.

— SCV Sheriff (@SCVSHERIFF) November 14, 2019

AS A PRECAUTION, ALL SCHOOLS IN WILLIAM S HART DISTRICT ARE BEING PUT ON LOCKDOWN.

— SCV Sheriff (@SCVSHERIFF) November 14, 2019

Here’s the live feed from NBCLA Channel 4:

More to follow as it comes in.

Updated at 11:48 AM EST

This is still a very active situation. Reports of approximately 5 victims being treated. Parents, deputies are on scene everywhere protecting your children.

— SCV Sheriff (@SCVSHERIFF) November 14, 2019

.@LASDHQ tells us weapon was recovered. Unclear if shooter had any other weapons. Anyone near Saugus High School is told to lock doors, call 911 if you see someone suspicious #saugus #schoolshooting https://t.co/Y0c4z1I9Sa

— Adrian Arambulo (@AdrianNBCLA) November 14, 2019

And MSNBC’s Pete Williams has just reported is that law enforcement authorities have informed reporters that the suspect has been found and is no longer a threat, but he is unclear what “no longer a threat” means. And while there are five wounded, there are no fatalities, so that’s a revision.

LA County officials revising number of victims to three. #saugus #schoolshooting @NBCLA https://t.co/IYOmaEfqmn

— Adrian Arambulo (@AdrianNBCLA) November 14, 2019

Updated at 12:40 PM EST

I had to step away for a bit, but here are the most recent updates.

First, the number of victims has been revised again.

UPDATE: Six students are hospitalized after they were shot by a classmate at Santa Clarita's Saugus High School, sheriff says. https://t.co/S0aBKHeSD3 pic.twitter.com/1cEc1ocjAz

— NBC Los Angeles (@NBCLA) November 14, 2019

And the suspect has taken his own life.

UPDATE: Suspect in California high school shooting is dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, @PeteWilliamsNBC reports on @MSNBC.

— NBC News (@NBCNews) November 14, 2019

Update at 12:43 PM EST

The latest information on the suspect from the LA Sheriffs Office contradicts Pete Williams reporting that the suspect is dead.

Update regarding the shooting at #SaugusHigh, suspect is in custody and being treated at a local hospital.

— Alex Villanueva (@LACoSheriff) November 14, 2019

Pete Williams is correcting his reporting on air as I type this.

Update at 1:22 PM EST

The Henry Mayo Hospital also says there are two male victims in critical condition and one male victim in good condition. #NBCLA #saugushighshooting

— Rick Montanez (@RickNBCLA) November 14, 2019

Open thread!

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Gun Safety PSA: Back to School Essentials

by Anne Laurie|  September 19, 201910:52 am| 105 Comments

This post is in: Enhanced Protest Techniques, gun safety, Open Threads, Seriously

Trigger warning — this spot is almost too effective…

Seriously good work by the Sandy Hook Promise people — I learned about it from a spot on the local news, and I suspect it’s going viral on the airwaves as well as in social media.

On a technical level, this is an incredibly well-made PSA with riveting performances. On an emotional level, this is a devastating take on school shootings that ends so disturbingly, I had to text my 20 yr old kid to make sure she was okay. She is… And yet I’m still crying. https://t.co/cN86XiIyqH

— KevinSmith (@ThatKevinSmith) September 18, 2019

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