Debate Open Thread: Creature Feature


PBO had to endure white assholes’ otherization to win the presidency. HRC has to endure a sexist psychopath’s condescension and abuse.

I’m watching through my fingers, as if viewing a slasher film. I think she’s wiping the floor with him. What do you think? Open thread.

Late Night Farce Open Thread: Another Brilliant Trump Ploy

At this point, I figure the kids are giving Deadbeat Donnie free reign, so that after the November 8th fiasco they can use his actions to sue for a medical conservatorship.

(Next fun chapter of this Dickensian saga involves Ivanka & Jared tussling expensively with Don Jr. & Eric over who gets the keys and the twitter passwords… with Melania, standing in for Barron, in a supporting role. Key question: Which party gets custody of Mark Halperin?)

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PBO to Trump: Stop Whining

PBO calls out Trump on his lies about the rigged election, and it’s glorious:

A partial transcript in case you can’t watch:

I have ever seen in my lifetime or in modern political history any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before the votes take place. It’s unprecedented…

You start whining before the game’s even over? If, whenever things are going bad for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else? You don’t have what it takes to do this job… I’d advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go make his case to get votes.

BOOM. The president also pointed out that elections are run by state and local officials, so if there’s a massive con job going on, people like Florida Governor Rick Scott, a Trump supporter (and possible alien life form from Planet Reptar) would have to be in on it.

I would only add that there is an ongoing attempt to rig this election, one that cleverly bypasses local voting mechanisms that are hard to corrupt nationwide due to decentralization. The genuine attempt to rig this election is being carried out by a foreign power, Russia, using a hostile third party, WikiLeaks, to disseminate stolen information timed to maximize damage to Democrats.

If anyone on earth should STFU about rigged elections, it’s Donald J. Trump. He’s the beneficiary of an attempted heist on a scale we’ve never seen before.

Monday Evening Open Thread: Media (Fizzle) Notes

My interpretation: If Jared Kushner can’t be the Nancy Reagan of a new generation — the ‘kitchen cabinet’ director running the Oval Office behind a photogenic, semi-demented figurehead — he figures he can at least dream of being the next Roger Ailes.

The Financial Times story is behind a paywall, but HuffPo says:

… [T]he Financial Times reported that Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner spoke with a boutique media deal-making firm about the prospect of launching a television network. Kushner, who owns the New York Observer, contacted LionTree founder and chief executive Aryeh Bourkoff within the past couple months, according to the paper…

Vanity Fair reported in June on Trump’s media plans and noted that Kushner said at a dinner party how “the people here don’t understand what I’m seeing” and that “you go to these arenas and people go crazy for him.” The New York Times added in August that Trump and Kushner had “quietly explored becoming involved with a media holding, either by investing in one or by taking one over.”

But even if Kushner contacted Bourkoff, Politico’s Mike Allen reported Monday that the LionTree executive has no interest in working with Trump…

Kushner, the scion of a New Jersey real estate family who married Trump’s daughter Ivanka in 2009, has been one of Trump’s closest advisers. One Trump source recently told The New Yorker that Kushner ― who keeps a low profile and rarely gives interviews ― has been Trump’s “real campaign manager.”…

Apart from the NOBODY IS THE BOSS BUT MEEEEE tantrum such reporting is liable to spark from Lord Smallgloves (rumors of civil war within Trump Tower?), there’s the problem of finding enough content to ensure a paying audience…

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Evil Minions Open Thread: Rude-y Ghouliani

GOP Strong Angry Daddy Figure will defend his beau ideal to the last. Per the Washington Post:

Giuliani, who has regularly appeared on the Sunday political-show circuit as one of Trump’s top surrogates, insisted Sunday on CNN that it is the Democrats who overwhelmingly engage in voter fraud because they “control the inner cities.”

“We do cheat,” Giuliani told “State of the Union” host Jake Tapper. “We have people who cheat in elections!”

“I’ve found very few situations where Republicans cheat,” Giuliani said, shrugging. “They don’t control the inner cities the way Democrats do. Maybe if Republicans controlled the inner cities, they’d do as much cheating as Democrats.”

“I think there are a lot of elections experts that would have very, very strong disagreements with you,” Tapper responded, shaking his head…

He won two elections, running in a high-crime era as the Tough Sheriff who would put those people in their place (the inner city). But New Yorkers got Rudy’s number, just as they got Deadbeat ‘Developer’ Donnie Trump’s. If it hadn’t been for 9/11 — which Giuliani tried to use as an excuse for extending his last term — he’d be eking out a modest living on the rubber-chicken circuit. The Media Village Idiots’ romanticization of “America’s Mayor” greatly increased his marketability… just not always among those who knew first hand how badly he’d botched both the security preparations and the response.

As with everyone whose reputation ends up Trump-crumpled, Rudy was never a good person.

Eight years after his own presidential bid failed, Giuliani has emerged as Donald Trump’s unflinching chief apologist, cheerleader and rhetorical Rottweiler, even as GOP leaders far and wide abandon their party’s candidate.
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Early Morning Eye Roll Open Thread: Trump’s Not on Drugs, He’s Just Lost His Tiny Mind

Was just re-reading an old Agatha Christie mystery where a rich, dishonest businessman is murdered by one of his kids, before he can dissipate the family fortune as a result of suffering from “general paralysis of insanity“. That diagnosis has fallen out of general use, because it’s the result of third-stage syphilis, and (for the moment) we’ve got drugs to forestall its progression. But maybe Trump wasn’t kidding when he referred to his 70s-era sexual predations as “my personal Vietnam”

Trump Went the Full Cosby. Never Go the Full Cosby

In just the past few hours, two more women have come forward accusing Trump of groping/assaulting/GODINEEDBRAINBLEACH them. First, the Washington Post:

Kristin Anderson was deep in conversation with acquaintances at a crowded Manhattan nightspot and did not notice the figure to her right on a red velvet couch — until, she recalls, his fingers slid under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh, and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Anderson shoved the hand away, fled the couch and turned to take her first good look at the man who had touched her, she said.

She recognized him as Donald Trump: “He was so distinctive looking — with the hair and the eyebrows. I mean, nobody else has those eyebrows.”

Jezebel has the deets on #2:

At a press conference with attorney Gloria Allred Friday afternoon, Summer Zervos, a former candidate on The Apprentice, said that Donald Trump groped her when she met him at the Beverly Hills hotel to discuss employment opportunities in 2007. “You do not have the right to treat women as sexual objects just because you are a star,” Zervos said, addressing Trump.

Allred said at the presser that Trump’s pussygrabbing comments on the 2005 Access Hollywood tape “hit a nerve,” and that she decided it was her duty to speak out. Allred also said that Zervos told two people close to her about the alleged groping shortly after it occurred.

“Instead of a job, Ms. Zervos claims she got the Donald all over her, kissing her, touching her breasts, leading her into his bedroom,” Allred said. “Donald, before you can become President of the United States, you must first learn to treat women with respect.”

The thing that you need to keep in mind is that this is one man who has wreaked all this havoc on who knows how many women. There are a lot of men in positions of power and with a great deal of wealth. And positions of power is relative- you don’t need to be Donald Trump with billions of dollars (allegedly). It could be Bill Cosby, assaulting women who want to break into the entertainment industry. It could be the owner of a diner employing a single mom with no other job opportunities with a power disparity doing this kind of thing. It’s pretty clear, this is a national epidemic.