I am so sick and tired of hearing McCain talk about bipartisanship and leadership, when he has demonstrated neither.
Also, the Being There debate is tomorrow.
Discuss.
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I am so sick and tired of hearing McCain talk about bipartisanship and leadership, when he has demonstrated neither.
Also, the Being There debate is tomorrow.
Discuss.
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Not My Fault
So it is October.
After September, I shudder to think what the October surprise is going to be.
I hope it happens soon. The suspense is killing me.
Zifnab
But, but, but…. McCain said that if you don’t act in a bipartisan manner then you’re no better than those whinny liberal Democrats. Then he whines about how he only has $100 million and someone needs to lower his taxes, good damnit.
Zifnab
You didn’t hear about the air strike in Pakistan? Apparently, we killed an Al Qaeda chief. I have no doubt that it will soon be reported how this is just like killing Osama bin Laden and that we’ve WON! The next month will involve Republicans crowing and beating the drum over our glorious victories throughout the Middle East. Surprise!
Comrade Delia
Jed says Sarah is a better debater than we think. Not that she’s smarter or better informed. Just that given the limitations of the structured debate format she may do pretty well. There’s a vid at the link of some of her responses during her run for governor.
cleek
McCain is giving the country a lesson in the Meaning of “Truth”.
Napoleon
Something I have seen no one comment on yet, with a much early voting that they expect to go on, much of it in key swing states (I can vote today here in Ohio), if someone really does have an October Surprise to spring, does it make sense to do it real late in the month, or would your October suprise be more effective earlier in the month?
uila
I’m holding out hope that Palin makes an intelligent remark, giving Biden the opportunity to exclaim: “well, even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then”
probably too much to ask
(about the intelligent remark, that is)
SamFromUtah
I am so sick and tired of hearing McCain talk about bipartisanship and leadership, when he has demonstrated neither.
He’s demonstrated plenty of both, by Republican definitions. Bipartisanship = demonize Democrats no matter what they do; leadership = yell and bluster and demonize Democrats.
SGEW
Re: The debate
Last month I watched Palin’s 2006 Gubernatorial Debate, and I was pretty impressed by her debating chops. Highlights of my reaction at the time (pre-Couric debacle):
Don’t misunderestimate her.
Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse
CNN interviews the student who asked Palin about Pakistan, but gets bogged down in trying to define him as a gotcha journalist.
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Next, he goes on Fox and calls her “clueless”. Surprisingly, the Foxbot’s head doesn’t explode.
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SGEW
Also, I am enraged by the comparison between Gov. Palin and Chauncey “Chance” Gardiner, who was our greatest President ever.
Apologize to President Gardiner, Mr. Cole. You should be ashamed.
jake
Lucky you. I’m just sick of hearing McPOW talk, period. He sounds like Dubya B. with the twang turned down to 5.
comrade chopper
“my friends, now is not the time to fix blame, unless that blame is fixed on obama. we must come together in a bipartisan manner to hate on obama more than anyone has been hated on before. my friends, i have taken the initiative in hating on obama; i couldn’t even look at the man when i debated him.”
ThymeZone
Win.
That is a great line.
Punchy
She’s now stealing my material, yes? No!
JGabriel
Kathleen Parker gets hate mail:
I wonder if she’ll be joining the reality-based community, and if so, how soon.
John Cole, maybe you can advise her on the transition?
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SGEW
McCain slams George Will in the Des Moines Register interview (via Ambinder):
I don’t think Mr. Will is going to like that. Good bye and good luck indeed.
Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse
That “Palin can’t name a single Supreme Court decision except for Roe v Wade” story may be slightly off. According to TPM, CBS has released a transcript of more interview footage to be aired tonight. The relevant question seems to be, as per earlier wingnut rumours (Clock. Broken. Twice a day.):
A VP candidate who can’t name any SC decisions is laughable. And for all we know, Palin can’t do that. But she wasn’t asked that question, so we’ll never know, as I’m sure she’s prepped by now.
but if this transcript is accurate, the question was actually more difficult. I’d expect a reasonable VP candidate to be able to deflect that and I’d have extra admiration for a VP candidate who could answer that fluently with real examples, of course. But if she couldn’t even describe why Roe v Wade was a bad decision (I don’t know if she answered this part of the question before the legendary silence or not), that’s just horrible. She may have her opinions about it, but if she can’t express them cogently, or if she gets knocked off her game by the second part of the question, the woman is proving once again that she’s an intellectual mud puddle a centimeter deep.
comrade scott
“Life…is a state of mind.”
I bet she can walk on water too.
Raenelle
Sarah Six-Pack has been pushed to the G. Harold Carswell defense: “Even if he is mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they, and a little chance?”
jrg
The McCain campaign’s bailout fiasco really spoke volumes, didn’t it?
“leadership” is apparently charging into DC, grandstanding about the bailout, attempting to avoid the debate, getting undermined by Gingrich and Bonehead, and turning the Republican house vote into a goat rodeo.
“bipartisanship” is blaming the whole mess on Obama and Pelosi, despite the fact that the majority of house Republicans voted against the bill. McCain is a clueless tool. I look forward to the day that “bipartisanship” refers to agreement between majority Dems and the Blue Dogs.
Comrade Incertus
‘When I use a word,’ John McCain said, in a rather scornful tone,’ it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.’
SGEW
O/T
An excellent article about Somalia in Salon today by Jennifer Daskal: More Blowback From the War on Terror
Here’s a question for the debates: How many wars has the United States been involved in over the last 7 years? Answering “two” is incorrect.
“If you’re not angry, you’re just stupid: you don’t care.” -Ani
JGabriel
Napolean:
If it’s too late in the month, there’s not enough time to structure a narrative and ensure the spin you want is getting spread in the way you want it.
So, if there is an October surprise, it makes sense to do it somewhere in the late middle of the month. You probably want a week or two before election day for maximum penetration with minimum time for it to be replaced in the news cycle.
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Comrade Dreggas
I have a feeling Palin will do better than expected given the reasons others have stated. The format will definitely help her. However I don’t think soundbites are going to work with voters. Look at the last debate. Obama showed command of the issues and a lot of McCain’s responses were nothing but soundbites from his campaign stump speech. It didn’t work for him and it won’t work for Palin (in fact her interviews have been nothing but soundbites). She has pretty much been in “debate camp” for four days, it gives her enough time to memorize all of the soundbites but not enough time to really grasp the policies and have even a half way decent command of the issues.
Further, the ones she’s debating against in these mock debates are the advisors to McCain and we’ve seen just how well their advice is paying off. So yeah, she’ll have the soundbites down. It’s the soundbite debate. However people seem to be looking for more substance and less catch-phrase, gotcha bs.
Juan del Llano
There is no way in bloody hell tomorrow’s debate is going to sway any voters to support McCain/Palin. Get real. And for all the talk about Palin’s “prowess,” don’t any of you ninnies know the least little thing about basic metaphysics and the way the universe works?!? GEEZ!!!
Be happy and strong. The force is with us.
Not My Fault
Funniest line in Kathleen Parker’s awakening:
I guess Kathleen is not ready to make nice.
Montysano (All Hail Marx & Lennon)
From the linked article, an Alaskan politician who debated Palin:
Do facts, figures, and policies matter? Weepin’ Jeebus on the cross, I’d kind of like to think they do.
My main fear is that the MSM, who is all about the latest meme, the newest story that will attract eyeballs, will go with “She did great!”, no matter what the reality was. If so, the polls will drift back to a tight race, close enough to steal, Palin’s idiocy will diappear down the Memory Hole, and I’ll stroke out from the tension.
Annette
Could be worse. You could listen to him talk to NPR instead…
SGEW
Jed dug up the Nov. 28th, 2001 McCain video where he pushed the Al-Queda/Iraq connection and suggested invasion. Two months after 9/11.
Video via HuffPo.
Damning.
Zifnab
Well, technically the answer is “Zero”. We don’t declare wars anymore. We just dump our military one whomever gets in our way.
AkaDad
Some people say Gwen Ifell hearts Obama and wants to be his pizza-delivery girl.
JGabriel
SGEW:
Between the freepers hating on Parker, and McCain dissing Will, the Republican Purity Wars continue apace.
By 2012 they will have all killed each other off in a orgy of murder, cannibalism, and purer-than-thou recrimination, until only 2 are left, Ace of Spades and Michelle Malkin, each circling the other with rocks in their hand, shouting “You’re a RINO!” “No, you are!”
One of them leans in for the attack, they pounce, and…
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SGEW
Yep yep yep. Which is why I worded the question “involved in,” rather than “declared.”
. . .
Tho’ maybe the better question is “How many military conflicts have we fucked up in the last 7 years?” Much better.
Comrade Incertus
Well, who wouldn’t?
grandpajohn
well looking over all the polls released so far this morning,and especially some of the internals on things such as favorability , trust better on the economy and and some other things like that,it appears that it might have already happened and it is not the one McSame was expecting
Comrade Incertus
Will that be on pay-per view? Because I’d totally shell out $29.95 to watch that go down.
Not My Fault
OK. I’m totally lost. Do we laugh, cry, or cringe in fear at this man?
Not My Fault
OK. I’m totally lost. Do we laugh, cry, or cringe in fear at this man?
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gypsy howell
I think it’s possible that when Palin confines herself to issues she knows a lot about, she probably does OK in this type of debate format, and that’s what you’re seeing on those Alaska gubernatorial debates. The McCain camp’s huuuge problem is … outside of Alaskan politics she doesn’t know ANYTHING. She can’t even fall back on talking points because she doesn’t understand national and international issues well enough to insert the proper ones at the proper time, even assuming she can memorize them fast enough for tomorrow.
I think that’s also why she couldn’t answer the newspaper question, because even she knew that saying “The Wasilla Frontiersman, The Wackadoodle Church of God Sunday Bulletin and The AIP Newsletter” was going to sound idiotic at best.
Old Spice/Bible Spice ’08!
Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse
Wow. When that happened in Canada in 1993, there was no Thunderdome scenario. We just called it PC, Party of 2. I think tea was served, too.
Montysano (All Hail Marx & Lennon)
Yes to all. And drink. I recommend drinking. YMMV.
comrade scott
Ifill’s a tool. She’s a classic “faux-balance” inside-the-beltway media drone. She was at her craptacular “best” in the 04 Veep debate. Milquetoast doesn’t even describe her tool-ness.
Governor Gidget will have it easy.
comrade chopper
alaska politics aint on the same scale as national politics. its much easier to be in basic command of how alaska’s system works than the entire country – the two biggest issues are going to be the same as in the presidential debate, the US economy and foreign policy, neither of which are issues in an alaska gubernatorial debate.
Rick Taylor
You’ve only had to put up with McCain for a few months. Think of what it’s been like for us to listen to compassionate conservative uniter-not-a-divider Bush for seven years.
JGabriel
Incertus:
I suspect not. I imagine it’ll take place in some suburban backyard in Chevy Chase, MD, with only a few stray kids and latchkey animals as audience.
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Comrade Dreggas
Oh I also suspect a backlash by angry women if IFill does go easy on Palin just as there has been a backlash in many places about the sexism inherent in the McCain camp shielding her from the media and public.
Rick Taylor
Oops; I meant to block quote the first paragraph of that.
Comrade Fedorovich Stuck
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Match the above with the below and you have your average ticket from Hell,
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JGabriel
Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse:
I’ve never actually seen Thunderdome. I’m pretty sure got the scenario from Bob Altemeyers’s The Authoritarians.
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Fwiffo
Martin
Murray v Curlett? Griswold v CT?
The first ended mandatory prayer in school. The 2nd held a right to marital privacy, striking down a law that made contraceptives illegal and which is considered the precursor to RvW. In wingnut land, those are both big cases.
Annette
Rick Taylor @ 48 (Fixed previous blockquote)
Fwiffo @ 52 (Inserted break to fix that one as well)
Comrade Fedorovich Stuck
I vote we go back to the old format bar. All this geekese is starting to make my teeth hurt.
cleter
I will bet A DOLLAR that she repeats the 2006 AK governor debate line: “Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, and I’m amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, ‘Does any of this really matter?’ ”
It would really be exta funny if she slipped up and called Biden “Andrew.”
As a former debate coach, I predict trainwreck. She is a toxic hellbrew of overprepared talking points surrounded by vast seas of unpreparedness, and alernating cycles of paranoia over giving the wrong answer coupled with bouts of overconfidence. Plus, and this is really important, she does NOT KNOW WHEN TO SHUT UP. Her cringy answers to Couric are not, timewise, all that long. Imagine her having to fill a minute and a half with her 30 second talking point.
Scrutinizer
Huh. I thought you were talking about the GOS until I read Ace and Malkin.
Martin
What’s remarkable is that was a pretty good description of the Democratic party just 4 years ago. Bush must really have the gift to make for such a radical change in landscape in such a short time.
J. Maynard Gelinas
Who are the idiots buying back in to the stock market? It’s not me. I suspect hardcore Plunge Protection Team work in action here. They’re just printing dollars to inflate the stock market, aren’t they? Un-fucking-believable.
Sherrell H.
Spoiler Alert: The October Surprise…Bin Laden is gonna drop a mix tape featuring Tupac and Elvis
SGEW
And let us not forget Lawrence v. Texas, of course (but then again, Palin supposedly has a gay friend, so maybe she’s ok with that one).
What about Kelo v. City of New London? What about Boumediene v. Bush (which McCain called the “worst decision” ever: even worse than Dredd Scott!)? What about . .
Oh, never mind. She might not have even have remembered Roe v. Wade if Couric hadn’t mentioned it in the question.
And to think that she has the possibility of appointing two or three Justices. Mind boggles.
SGEW
Addendum to above post: She has the slight possibility of appointing two or three Justices.
Obama win now at 85.4% at 538. I’d roll dice on those odds.
Scrutinizer
who chose that lifestyle, don’t forget. All those gay people just need to choose not to be. All fixt.
LiberalTarian
I like to watch.
Comrade Fedorovich Stuck
Quinnipiac now has Obama up 8 points in Florida, 8 points in Ohio, and 15 points in Pennsylvania. Hee Hee!
SGEW
Yeah, what kind of “friend” is Sarah if she can’t successfully “pray the gay away” in her own dear buddy?
cleter
Has anyone noticed that Palin’s 13 year-old daughter doesn’t appear to be in school? She’s at all of Palin’s campaign appearances.
SGEW
And the latest Pollster chart is a thing of beauty.
Scrutinizer
Voyeurs Unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!
Dennis - SGMM
What about Mat-Su Eagles v. Homer Glacier Kings?
That’s something that regular six-pack Americans can care about!
iluvsummr
Off topic (but a big deal for those who teach at small colleges).
TheFountainHead
This is pretty awesome:
SGEW
re: Palin’s gay friend
Sullivan nails it:
This is why we read Sully.
Stevenovitch
Besides this not mattering at all, I’m willing to wager that her daughter is learning ten times more on the campaign trail than she ever would at school. Certain experiences are worth skipping a bit of school in the grand scheme of things.
TheFountainHead
FAIL, This is pretty awesome. Palin again. Being an idiot. Again.
John PM
I predict that if McCain wins, Justice Stevens will make himself live to 100 so that he is not replaced by a Clarence Thomas clone.
Additionally, wouldn’t this be a great question to ask Palin: “Who is your favorite Supreme Court Justice, and why?” What are the odds she would be able to name one?
Brachiator
Despite her poor performance to date in interviews, I cannot imagine that the Republicans would send Palin out to debate unless they were certain that she would at least be able to come across as credible, with allowances for spin and damage control.
Of course, I have been wrong before.
The interesting thing is that Palin will have to sell herself not only to people who may be uncertain about her, but also to conservative pundits who have recently expressed strong reservations. The best possible result would be for a George Will to say “I was wrong,” at the conclusion of the debate. On the other hand, if they lose otherwise friendly conservative pundits, then it really may be “game over.”
Seanly
I think Palin’s debate performance will help her with the vaunted Base. For Democrats and independents, it’ll continue the solidifying of Obama’s lead. Biden’s been working on his debate for a while. I’m sure the stand-in behaved like they assume Palin will ~ incomplete sentences, lack of verbs and participles where required, non-answers and evasions. He’ll be good to go.
Also, even if she does have a good debate, how much could it really help? Is it really going to give McCain the 5 or 6 point bounce he needs in quite a few key states?
SGEW
Is that like the Justice League? Why, Superman, of course! He’s the only American – Batman’s from Gotham, which is in Europe, which I can see from my house, and the Martian Manhunter is an illegal alien.
comrade chopper
sweet. asked about hamas and she starts talking about what a dick iran’s president is. she really is just a random talking point generator.
JGabriel
Martin:
Not really. I wasn’t joking about picking up the scenario from Altemeyer – if it’s not from The Authoritarians, then it was from John Dean’s work on the same subject, Conservatives Without Conscience.
Lefties tend to factionalize and bicker and go their own way, into the solipsism in the worst cases.
Righties/Authoritarians don’t just factionalize, they get into wars with each other over who’s purer, and when one side wins, it breaks into smaller factions and runs the war again, ad infinitum, until only two are left – or one, c.f. founding male population of Pitcairn Island (yeah, yeah, different causes, but same dynamic and outcome).
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tBone
Shorter McCain: “I am aware of all moose-skinning and shotgun wedding traditions.”
It’s not that hard – they just set each of her talking points to loop. The real fun will come if someone forgets to shut off shuffle mode, like they did in the Couric interview.
Teak111
Maybe thinking of McCain as a gambling addict will help. I’d say we are about to enter phase three…desperation.
The “four phases” of problem gambling and gambling addiction
People with gambling problems typically go through four phases, progressing from recreational gambling to problem gambling and finally to gambling addiction. Each phase can last from months to years.
* Winning phase – The winning phase often starts with a big win, leading to excitement and a positive view of gambling. Problem gamblers believe they have a special talent for gambling and that the winning will continue. They begin spending greater amounts of time and money on gambling.
* Losing phase – Problem gamblers become more and more preoccupied with gambling. They start to gamble alone, borrow money, skip work, lie to family and friends, and default on debts. They also begin to “chase” their losses: gambling in order to win back money that was lost.
* Desperation phase – Problem gamblers lose all control over their gambling. They feel ashamed and guilty after gambling, but they can’t stop. They may cheat or steal to finance their addiction. The consequences of compulsive gambling catch up with them: they may lose their jobs, get divorced, or get arrested.
* Hopeless phase – In the hopeless phase, problem gamblers hit “rock bottom.” They don’t believe that anyone cares or that help is possible. They don’t even care if they live or die. They may abuse drugs and alcohol to numb the pain. Many problem gamblers also consider or attempt suicide.
Alan
Kathleen Parker has been mugged by the Religious Right. Her article is a great example of the fruits of their spirit.
SGEW
Now that would be an October surprise to end all October surprises.
Not My Fault
Yeah, well I wouldn’t expect them to send them off to talk to Couric unless they were certain that she would at least be able to come across as credible … and look how that turned out.
The CBS interviews were optional. There is no way for them to back out of the debate without either declaring that she is an idiot or trying to convince the world that the only way to save the economy is for Sarah Palin to be fixing congress on Thursday night.
John PM
Unfortunately, Superman is also an illegal alien, having been born on Krypton. The correct answer would be … Captain America!
malraux
The other problem she’ll have with wandering generalities is that the current media frame of those is as ditzy rather than connecting with the common person. I think that unfortunately for her, she’ll have to avoid those because that’ll just play into the Tina Fey theme.
Plus the expectations of a VP debate, especially this one, are going to be much different than those of the Alaskan governor.
SGEW
Captain America is dead.
I can think of no other metaphor that better encapsulates the last 7 years.
Soylent Green
What choice do they have but to hope for the best? Backing out of the debate is never on the table. It’s the same as a forfeit.
JGabriel
Malraux:
Exactly. As Dorothy Parker once said, when asked to use the word “horticulture” in a sentence:
Er. Or something like that.
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John PM
I had forgotten about that.
Your last line makes me said.
Dennis - SGMM
But rushing back to Alaska because Putin has threatened to loom over it would be okay.
Sherrell H.
Now Ifill’s book has become the distraction. Despite the fact that the AP reported on it weeks before the McCain Campaign agreed to let her moderate the debate, the McCain camp is claiming they didn’t know. Seems like since Sarah reads all newspapers she should of been aware of this
Comrade Cris, prospective apple cart vendor
Hmm, that’s interesting. Wonder Woman is also an immigrant, having been born on Paradise Island (which I guess is in the Aegean sea); Aquaman is from frickin’ Atlantis, which definitely makes him a foreigner; Hal Jordan might be an American, but I question his citizenship since the Green Lantern corps got into his head. So really that leaves just the Flash.
You’ve made me realize that the JLA is a bunch of superior foreigners imposing their will on the USA. It’s like a New World Order conspiracy.
CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII
This “Dog ate my homework” crap has got to stop. Why don’t we just brand the McCain campaign as inept and get it over with, shall we already?
Dennis - SGMM
Palin didn’t know about Ifill’s book because neither the Wasilla Pennysaver nor Guns & Ammo covered the story.
Comrade Incertus
More proof that the McCain campaign is very much like the Bush administration–it’s damn near impossible to tell if they’re dishonest or merely incompetent.
tavella
Eh, I doubt that the McCain campaign wants Ifill to quit, she was pretty pathetic in the last VP debate and a changeup might get someone actually willing to press Palin. They just want her to be even more submissive and throwing Palin not just softballs but toilet tissue balls.
Dennis - SGMM
I think that Ifill should be replaced – with Rachel Maddow.
SGEW
McCain’s Des Moines Register interview is a gold mine of quotes! Dig this one:
Ha ha ha! That John, always with the humor.
Ha ha ha! Ha ha. Ha. (sob)
Cain
ooooh! storyboard game..
“One of them leans in for the attack, they pounce, and… Ace of Spades emerges wearing Malkin’s cheerleading costume. He raises his eyes to the sky and intones “The battle has won! The powah of the right will emerge triumph.” Ace of Spades proceeds to recruit members for the ancient rite of The Great Circle Jerk, to please the spirit of Reagan so that he may reach forth and spew his sacred sperm on them. But something was missing…the sudden sound somewhere of a duck is quacking leads to..
cain
SGEW
And why can’t they be both?
SGEW
Aaagh! You have blinded my mind’s eye with your hideous imagery!
Avert! Avert!
FinalArbiterOnEverySubject
Why did Sarah Palin send goons to break Gwen Ifil’s ankle?
Cain
Wimp! :-)
cain
TheFountainHead
John McCain is funny the way cancer is funny.
SGEW
Always with the bashing of the Kids in the Hall. Cancer is officially funnier than John McCain.
Why do you hate America? I mean, Canada. Whatever.
Punchy
I had no idea. Figged he’da gotten his green card thanks to all the x-ray vision blackmail he probably used. Hard to hide the hookers when Clark Kent ken see into yo motel room.
Mazacote Yorquest
“What do you think Obama’s message was, Gov. Palin?”
“It’s slightly long, but I will try to remember it. Now get this… honky. You go tell… McCain that I ain’t taking no jive from no western state senator. You tell that… asshole if he…. got something… to tell me to get his ass down here himself. Then he said.. that I was to get my white ass… out of there quick or he’d cut it.”
Original
Soylent Green
By the way, who is running Alaska these days? Do they let Todd attend the meetings?
gbear
Great. McCain appears to have had some kind of a mini-seizure on the left side of his face during an appearance this morning, then couldn’t find the way off stage. This guy is not well.
Tony J
Yeah. The guy who encapsulated everything that made Americans proud of their country forced into leading a revolt against an over-reaching Government in defence of the very same rights the Government claimed to be securing, branded a traitor in the Media, then shocked into surrender at the moment of victory by the realisation that his fellow countrymen were willing to sell their heritage down the river in return for the illusion of ‘security’, then gunned down with his hands chained behind his back on his way to court.
Sounds right.
SGEW
From my drinking game rules:
Ash Can
Gbear, I was just about to post the same thing. I’m not a doctor, but this raises a huge red flag.
dslak
McCain’s facial tics are probably asymmetrical due to his surgeries, and anybody can forget which side of the stage to go off of at the end of a speech.
On the other hand, a mean sumbitch could get some grade-A ratfucking out of a video like that.
Common Sense
for once, this word feels appropriate:
Frist
Good to see we are all internet doctors now.
Rick Taylor
After the 2004 elections when I learned that attacks on Kerry’s service in Vietnam were fair game because he’d brought it up himself, it turns my stomach when I here McCain turning any questioning of his honesty as an attack on his service, as he does at the end of this clip here. The man is completely shameless.
Rick Taylor
After the 2004 elections when I learned that attacks on Kerry’s service in Vietnam were fair game because he’d brought it up himself, it turns my stomach when I here McCain turning any questioning of his honesty as an attack on his service, as he does at the end of this clip here. The man is completely shameless.
dslak
I will see your Frist, and raise you a Santorum.
John PM
I just got even sadder.
FinalArbiterOnEverySubject
How long does it take to get a post out of moderation?
See my post 105
w vincentz
@gbear,
I think it’s a reaction from eating too much grapefruit and cottage cheese for breakfast.
Ya know, for five and a half years, he didn’t have grapefruit nor cottage cheese. BURP.
He’s only making up for lost time.
Though, “lost” is a good word in his case.
flywheelgrinding (Gravel Blood)
Anybody remember when a plane with Nick Begich and Hale Boggs went down in Alaska in October 1972 while Begich was running for re-election? Never. Found. The. Plane.
Don Young has been the at-large US Rep ever since. You can look it up on Wikipedia! Nixon hated Boggs. Saw it on the History Channel last night; History’s Mysteries “The Alaskan Triangle”.
I am starting to imagine that after McCain’s plane crashes, a tearful Sarah accepts the nomination for Pres and carryies the standard for the RICO eligible Republicans.
Don’t forget, both Obama and Biden have mentioned the possibility of inquiries and investigations by a new Attorney General. Rove, et al did not let that go over their heads.
They are capable of ANYTHING.
Jon H
“Besides this not mattering at all, I’m willing to wager that her daughter is learning ten times more on the campaign trail than she ever would at school.”
What are the odds that the 13 year old gets knocked up on the campaign trail?
Scrutinizer
Depends. Are you going to be stalking her?
Jeez.
t jasper parnell
John McCain has “never been an astronaut” but he is aware of “the challenges of space.” What this has to do with the question of his nearly life long taxpayer subsidized health care remains unclear. It is not just Palin who cannot respond to difficult question honestly or coherently.
TenguPhule
The Great Palin-Biden Drinking Game
Kindler and Gentler Version:
1 Sip for every “G” Palin cuts off of a word.
2 Sips for every sentence comprised of buzzwords to run out the clock.
A good long drink if she dares to repeat her lies about the Bridge to Nowhere.
Finish the bottle if nobody calls her on it.
1 Sip for any softball questions.
2 Sips if Palin still flubs them.
2 Sips if Palin inserts any of the following into an answer “Country, Patriotism, God, Babies, Guns, Freedom, Tax Cuts.”
One sip and cheer every time Palin undercuts one of McCain’s own attacks on Obama.
Two sips if Biden makes an obvious gaffe.
Finish the bottle after any question Biden doesn’t answer better then Palin.
One sip for any answers that wander off the subject.
Take a penalty shot if campaign slogans are worked in instead.
Should at any point Palin start looking cute or Biden’s hair resemble a small tribble…put down the bottle and go to bed, you’ve had too much to drink.
Nikolita
I have my popcorn and some alcohol, and I’m so ready for the VP debate. I hope Biden mops the floor with her!