I had planned to watch the Matrix tonight, got settled in the chair for a viewing session with a nice big Fresca on ice with a splash of unsweetened cranberry, grabbed the remote, started the movie, and immediately turned it off the moment the code started pouring down the screen.
I’m just not emotionally prepared for this to be bad. I have no idea if it is, as I have assiduously avoided reviews, and I would appreciate it greatly if you put no spoilers in the comments. But just the thought of it potentially being bad scared me off.
I dunno why. I guess the first one brings back so many memories. I was in grad school, at a really good but tumultuous time in my life, and I remember going and seeing it 4-5 times in the theater. The story was great, and for nerds, along with a couple other movies (Wargames, Sneakers, Hackers, Johnny Mnenomic, were popular ones, there were others much less so, etc.), it was really groundbreaking.
The soundtrack was amazing, the bullet time tech was astonishing. It was all just so cool and new and fresh.
And now, as an old, I don’t want that excitement, which is still there when I think of the Matrix, tarnished.
Does that make sense?
Jerzy Russian
I find that upon rewatching old series like Star Trek, some of the episodes that I remember being bad did not seem to be so bad after all. I guess at a subconscious level my expectations are lowered and I am not so disappointed at the end of the episode..
BottyGuy
Just watched it this evening, I think it’s the best since the first one. There is plenty of self awareness in the first half. Making fun of making sequels, the right wing bro appropriation of the red pill. I found it very satisfying.
Wyatt Salamanca
Interesting articles on how right wingers tried to co-opt the Matrix
Hugo Weaving Sounds Off on Republicans, Alt-Right Twisting ‘The Matrix’ and ‘V for Vendetta’
“Trump doesn’t give a flying fuck about anyone else but himself,” Weaving adds. “It’s just unbelievable that he’s the president.”
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/09/hugo-weaving-slams-far-right-groups-matrix-v-for-vendetta-1234585791
Matrix Resurrections co-writers Aleksandar Hemon and David Mitchell on reclaiming the Red Pill
https://www.avclub.com/matrix-resurrections-co-writers-aleksandar-hemon-and-da-1848234303
HinTN
I hear it’s good, Cole. Watch the damn thing. Merry Christmas, you old fart.
Dan B
It gets very good reviews. There’s supposed to be good chemistry between the actors. And Keanu Reeves is a mensch in real life, or so I’m told.
different-church-lady
My holiday has collapsed into watching cable TV with family, and I have never felt older or dumber.
pacem appellant
@different-church-lady: Me, too. But I’m relishing it. It’s not a holiday tradition that I’d keep alive when I’m an old-old, but I’m happy to watch cheesy TV with my loved ones, young and old.
lofgren
As a Star Wars, Transformers, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, DC comics fan I have no idea what you are talking about.
Another Scott
It’s probably best to watch it now – you’ve done all you can to not be affected by others and to see it on its (and your) own terms. It will get harder to do so the longer you wait.
Enjoy!
Cheers,
Scott.
Grumpy Old Railroader
JFC Cole! It’s a goddamn make believe movie. It is not real. You really have completely morphed into a touchy feely sensitive Liberal.
Mike in NC
We never had any interest in the Matrix franchise. Have not seen any of them.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’ve been disappointed by sequels– Godfather III comes to mind– and reboots (Arrested Development) and they in no way diminished my enjoyment of the originals. The prequel and sequel to The Sopranos and Deadwood weren’t great, but they weren’t bad, and the originals are still great.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
you hear that sound Mr Cole, that is the sound of inevitability
Suzanne
I’m excited to watch it, but I need to pre-screen it without Spawn the Younger, and Youngest makes it very difficult to watch movies. I hear it’s good and that it doesn’t let the right wing or the incels have the red pill. Good.
ant
we fired it up yesterday i think. ran for about ten minutes, and I said “this is stupid”. everyone else agreed. no one was getting into it.
I enjoyed the first movies. maybe it gets better as you get into the movie.
good luck
Major Major Major Major
I’ve read that it’s “competent fanservice”
Raoul Paste
Schrödinger‘s cat
You won’t know if the cat is dead or alive unless you open the box
TaMara (HFG)
Well, I get it…there are some sequels that completely ruined my original love of a movie. I actually avoid most sequels at this point. I tried to watch more than the original Matrix and quickly decided it would diminish what I loved about the original, so that’s as far as I’ve gone in that series. I wish I would have made a similar choice after the original 3 Star Wars.
I am thoroughly enjoying Will Smith in National Geographic Welcome to Earth right now. A nice break from Get Back, which I’m enjoying, but at almost 9 hours, I have to watch in small batches.
kmax
watched it last night
my wife who was no fan of originals thought it was good.
I thought it was ok.. was a good movie to break in new sound system.
DIL thought it was good.
Sons thought it was bad.. just not much story there. No argument on that point.
No surprise is is not anywhere near the impact of the first, but was not expecting it to be as good as that.
dmsilev
A sequel has to be pretty bad to retroactively spoil the original. Just generally speaking; I haven’t seen the new Matrix film, but I doubt it is (for instance) Highlander 2 bad. If there ever was a Highlander 2, that is.
Suzanne
@dmsilev: I only admit that there was a third Godfather movie under duress.
dm
Here’s an alternative to the Matrix: Conway’s game of Life, running in Life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP5-iIeKXE
Consider that a warm-up for a Lisp interpreter running on a processor implemented as cells in the game of life:
https://github.com/woodrush/lisp-in-life (not as dynamic)
This is the best I can do. I didn’t even know there was a new Matrix movie.
JMG
John, I haven’t been to a Who concert since Keith Moon died. I get where you’re coming from. Art is not eternal and neither are we, but our memories of art are as close as we get.
Comrade Colette
@Grumpy Old Railroader: Come sit by me. I have rocks to throw and I’ll share.
Jerzy Russian
@dmsilev:
Wasn’t there an episode of the Simpsons where the judge at the end declared that the events shown in the episode never occurred? I have friends who did the same for the (nonexistent) second Highlander movie. I have never seen the second movie, and I wonder if it is a case where a movie is so bad it becomes good?
M. Bouffant
Heard some clowns on the radio complaining that the new Kevin Smith reimagining of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe is possibly bad, & their childhoods will consequentially be retroactively destroyed.
There are a few movies I enjoyed so much in the theater when I was much younger that I’ve never watched them on the telly in case they didn’t hold up.
CaseyL
@Major Major Major Major: …which always make me cringe when I hear it. I’m a fan, but what I want is good acting and script, a story arc that doesn’t insult my intelligence, and at least some internal consistency.
“Fan service” movies tend to be too self-referential and self-reverent. Ugh.
Emerald
I watched the original Matrix last week. First time I’d seen it. Thought it was an excellent sci-fi movie. Couldn’t even get a half hour into the second one.
Danielx
OT but just because I had not heard it until this evening and it is still December 25th where I am:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfY4b1NszpY
debbie
@Jerzy Russian:
For me, it’s been the opposite. Lost in Space was unwatchable, and the original Star Trek was just cheesy. I loved both shows back when they were new.
tom
@Danielx: Greg Lake had one of the best voices in rock.
zeecube
It’s the Matrix, dude. Can’t be as bad as Matrix 3, and I admit I watched that more than once.
Jude
I’m as passionate about the first Matrix memories as you are, John. I just finished it with the fam and loved it. I loved the length, the story, and the fuck you to Red Pillers. Enjoy!
jnfr
I thought it was pretty bad.Though I don’t have a detailed critique. It just didn’t engage me that much.
SFAW
Mrs. SFAW and I watched the first episode of Foundation last week. I’ve determined that I need new glasses, because I completely missed the disclaimer that read “Although this show includes a number of characters with same/similar names as in the Isaac Asimov trilogy, just pretend that you’ve never read it. You’ll be happier.” *
I eagerly await their re-spin of LOTR, wherein Frodo wins the One Ring at an amusement park, and subsequently uses it to take over Middle Earth.
* I confess that I have not yet watched the next episode, so maybe Salvor Hardin changes from a gun-totin’, rootin’-tootin’ adventurer/merc into a sharp-witted Trader.
guachi
Just repeat to yourself, “It’s just a show. I should really just relax for Matrix Science Theater 3000”
Major Major Major Major
@SFAW: speaking as somebody who has read it, nothing has made me more likely to watch the show than hearing that it is completely unlike the book, which I hated.
Urza
Matrix took awhile but got good. If they had moved some of the last hour earlier it would have been much better.
Walker
The wife and I watched it this evening. We thought it was bad. And what was surprising was the reasons why it was bad. There was a potential for a good movie here, and we could see it trying to get out at several points. But three things killed it for us.
(1) The cinematography. Everyone remembers the bullet time from the first film. But those special effects were not enough by themselves (and today they would be nothing special). The way scenes were set up and shot in the first film were incredible. I am not lying that this felt like a made-for-TV movie. Scenes are overlit. The horrible use of slow-mo breaks you out of the scene. And jump-cuts galore totally ruin the fight coreography (which was not particularly good either).
(2) The reliance on clips from the original trilogy. There were so many. It honestly felt like we were watching a clip-show back from the days when TV did that. It was clearly an attempt at fan-service and it felt so fake.
(3) The character motivations. They are absolutely inscrutable. For most of the characters I cannot tell why they want to do anything. Why is it so important to get Neo back? What possible benefit does he give to anyone? And what is up with the new Agent Smith? He is introduced with his own motivations, he appears in the final conflict for no reason, and then is completely absent from the ending.
Every once in a while you would hear some dialogue that made it sound like there was a good movie trying to fight its way out. But I am glad I did not walk into a theater to see this.
Mallard Filmore
For you, I recommend “Howl’s Moving Castle” (2004). It’s like nothing you have seen before, so you do not have to fear watching it.
Grover Gardner
It’s bad. Watch The Gentlemen instead. -)
SFAW
@Major Major Major Major:
As you kids say, “Whatever.”
The show was interesting, and had some interesting concepts. But it’s (so far) not Foundation. It’s kinda like the (possibly apocryphal) story that the first edition of The Hobbit had a picture of an emu-like bird on the cover, said emu-like bird being a “hobbit.” [Allegedly, the person who selected the artwork had not read the book.] The point being: they can call it what they want, but don’t pretend that it’s Foundation. No, I don’t accept a “based on” bullshit disclaimer. Jackson’s LOTR was “based on” Tolkien, maybe, but outside of that ..
ETA: Forgot the obligatory “get offa my lawn!”
SFAW
@Mallard Filmore:
Are you saying Miyazaki’s going to do the next Matrix?
Mallard filmore
@Major Major Major Major:
I read the book too many decades ago for any complaints about how the show deviates from the original. I saw all 10 episodes, and as many times I was thinking “I don’t remember THAT”, I loved it.
You can always be picky-picky-picky about any movie or series, but in general, the production was excellent. The sets, the actors, the acting.
Only the end of the series broke me out of a trance.
Mallard filmore
@SFAW:
No, sorry. It’s only a suggested diversion.
Major Major Major Major
@SFAW: haha, I totally get what you mean! I just really did not like the book, I wanted to, but Asimov’s long form stuff has never been my jam.
SFAW
@Mallard filmore:
“Picky-picky-picky.” Right.
As I said: the concepts (or whatever) in the first episode were interesting, but outside of similar names and places, the deviations were minuscule. That may change in the later episodes.
This wasn’t a case of Legolas spending 10 minutes (figuratively speaking) taking down an oliphaunt, or Arwen whose horse saved Frodo at the Ford.
Look, I liked Star Trek TOS and the Pine/Quinto version, but I also understood that the P/Q version was a re-spin/re-imagining, and that’s OK. If Foundation is a re-imagining, and there was some big disclaimer (whether literally or “everyone knows that”) that I missed, that’s OK, too, I guess. Just don’t pretend it’s not.
HumboldtBlue
I have never seen the Matrix and have no plans to.
I am, however, watching what could be the single worst Xmas movie ever made and fuck yes I’m gonna watch until the end.
A Knight’s Christmas is so appallingly bad that even the belief in Santa is apparently reasonable, logical and possible compared to this ballbag of a movie.
A 13th century Knight from Norwich is transported to 2019 Ohio, where he gets entangled with the local teacher of ambiguous ethnicity and shows up in full Knight gear to the amazement of all.
Somehow, the local teacher of ambiguous ethnicity then hits the knight with her car (knight in full regalia) during a snow storm a week before Xmas and at the end of the local Xmas festival and ends up taking him home where she has a lavish guest house he can stay in.
He’s got a fucking sword and everything, and must be restrained from pulling out and using said sword on the ambiguously ethnic lady’s former boyfriend, colloquially known as The Douche.
The magic picture box gets him hip to modern slang and the ambiguously ethnic lady’s sister then meets him long with her daughter and they all agree he’s a dreamboat, if weird.
The local cop, who knows the father of the ambiguously ethnic lady and who worked with him on the police force before his death, is there to rescue all, particularly the Knight who calls the car a steel steed and attempts to drive only to ed up on the sidewalk while the ambiguously ethnic woman saves the day and takes the keys.
It’s all very engrossing.
Oh, and there is a giant fucking acorn Xmas decoration that has shown up in all the Netflix produced Xmas schlock blitzkrieg, seriously, a giant fucking acorn ornament that holds secrets.
SFAW
@Mallard filmore:
I was kidding. Sorry, I should have been more obvious.
Too much violence in the Matrices for Miyazaki to work his magic.
Major Major Major Major
@SFAW: took the liberty of deleting two of those for ya.
Sebastian
I watched “Don’t Look Up” and found it both hilarious and depressing because so spot on.
HumboldtBlue
Damn, Sir Knight also learned to play the lute.
And he’s really good at baking bread and ambiguously ethnic woman says while they are kneading dough, “I bet you’re good at a lot of things” and the heat melted my glasses!
Chetan Murthy
@Mallard Filmore: Oh yeah, that movie really hits the spot. Just so sweet. I also like Porco Rosso for similar reasons.
Mallard filmore
@SFAW:
I did not mean that to be directed at you. If the book is fresh in your mind. there is PLENTY to be justifiably picky about. For me, I read the book too long ago to be disappointed by deviations.
—
Mallard “I get picky when they show elevator rides that are WAY too long” Filmore
HumboldtBlue
And bam!
Sir Knight (who had his fucking sword strapped on while dressed all modern and stuff) then saves the niece of the ambiguously ethnic woman from the cracking ice on the local lake the niece and her poor friend (the one the niece gave her mittens to) were told not to go to, during a blizzard!
Dude Sir Knight is on fucking time again.
Mallard filmore
@Chetan Murthy: Howl’s Moving Castle is more widely known than I thought. You all might be interested in the YouTube vid:
“Miniature HOWL’S MOVING CASTLE made from JUNK _ Ghibli Crafts”
delk
The Wachowskis went to the same high school as Michelle Obama. One of them was a freshman when Michelle was a junior.
Sebastian
@Mallard filmore:
It’s a Studio Ghibli movie and attracts audience it would miss out on as a single work of art. Anime and Manga have become quite mainstream with the youth (and as I can tell from my teenager). Studio Ghibli plays no small role in that development IMHO
NotMax
@Sebastian
Genre hasn’t been the same since they demoted Sailor Pluto.
//
dm
@SFAW: No, not Miyazaki. You’re thinking of Mamoru Hosoda, who did Summer Wars.
His new movie, Belle, also takes place largely in cyberspace, and will be coming out later this year.
HumboldtBlue
Oh my fucking god, the 14th century took Sir Knight back in a flash of smoke and fire while ambiguously ethnic lady looks askance, confused and bewildered!
How will it end!?!?!?
NotMax
@HumboldtBlue
Knight and Dazed.
;)
HumboldtBlue
@NotMax:
Sixteen minutes left, the most anticipated 16 minutes of the year!
opiejeanne
@HumboldtBlue: That movie sounds hilariously awful. My sister would probably love it.
ETA: She’d probably love it for all the wrong reasons.
opiejeanne
@HumboldtBlue: Is this movie serious about itself? Or is it presented as a campy spoof of a cheesy Hallmark movie?
HumboldtBlue
Love is the first of all knightly virtues
There it is, love, and the old crone in this instance.
I bet Sir Knight gets sent back from the 14th century to ambiguously ethnic woman and her family (which he saved the daughter from the ice, remember)
And somehow the niece of the ambiguously ethnic woman (who was saved on the ice by Sir Knight) has a puppy for Xmas in some sort of Xmas puzzle that neither the ambiguously ethnic woman nor her kin can figure out!
There’s Xmas morning coffee and an awkward early morning Xmas appearance by ambiguously ethnic woman at her sister’s house while they puzzle over Sir Knight. It’s all so confuzzled!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@HumboldtBlue: The Xmas puzzle is how Sir Knight comes back.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@HumboldtBlue: There was an ambiguously ethnic woman ahead of me in the checkout line at Home Depot a few years ago, killer legs, turned out she was an adult film actress.
HumboldtBlue
Awww hell yeah.
Sir Knight showed back up in full regalia after returning from the 14th century (it was time travel you skeptical whingers) as ambiguously ethnic lady was unaware but everyone else in snowy, Ohio Xmas village could see what was happening, and he stepped forward, trusty war steed Sherwin in hand, and then they kissed.
Like two awkward 8th-graders at the school Xmas concert, that kiss was uglier than Cole describing a visit to the groomers for Steve.
Mallard filmore
@Sebastian: I’ve been old way too long, haven’t I? Hell, I was old back when I was young.
Keith P.
I saw the new Matrix a couple of days ago. I liked it a lot – a worthy sequel – but the first act was a bit too high concept for the rest of the movie to live up to. Seriously, in the first half hour, I was kind of shell-shocked by what I presume is the initial idea Lana Wachowski had that made her want to do the movie – blew my mind and I loved it. It settled down into a more conventional film later, and when the old lady showed up, it took quite a bit of air out, and no Laurence Fishburne was odd given that he just showed up in “MacGruber”.
But damn, that first half hour was really, really cool.
HumboldtBlue
Desmond Tutu has died.
Winston
I read where Outlander was worth watching somewhere so I found it on Prime/Starz, but one had to pay extra to watch it. It is worth watching so I bought the first season for $10.
Then I discovered it’s on Netflix. Great show, lots of drama, violence, sex, nudity and intrigue and time travel, if you like that sort of stuff, which I do.
Just don’t go to prime to watch it.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@HumboldtBlue: Sad, but 90 years is a pretty good run.
HumboldtBlue
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Indeed, and to have his impact.
HumboldtBlue
@opiejeanne:
Stone-cold serious.
frosty
@HumboldtBlue: Yikes, how do these kinds of things ever get greenlit?
guachi
Thay Knight movie is awful. I had the misfortune to see it a few years ago. No one in the movie acts like a human being would act. The time travel is completely unbelievable. It’s aggressively stupid because it takes itself so seriously.
Ryan
Watch Die Hard instead. It’s an actual Christmas movie.
lowtechcyclist
@Major Major Major Major:
You and I don’t agree on much, but I’m totally with you on this. Asimov’s nonfiction is great stuff, he was explaining science, and doing it well, back before it was cool. But his characters in the Foundation trilogy were about as wooden as characters can possibly be.
And it wasn’t just Foundation, later on I soldiered my way through his I, Robot trilogy. Same deal.
And at least IMHO, chaos theory has undermined Foundation‘s foundational notion. In three of our last six Presidential elections, tiny changes would have swung us down very different timelines. Butterfly effect? Butterfly ballot effect! Close enough. So good luck determining the history of humankind hundreds or thousands of years down the road.
ThresherK
@Dan B:
I hear that good stuff about Keanu also. Plus, professionally, he’s got a reputation in Hollywood: No embarrassing stuff in the papers, no drink or drugs issue, shows up to a set on time and knowing his lines, and treats his fellow actors, director, & crew well.
Either he’s just a nice fellow, or he’s a canny person who wants to make sure casting agents think well of him and keep him in mind so he can keep getting work for another thirty years. Or both.
lowtechcyclist
I’m still holding out for the movie version of Bored of the Rings.
Geminid
@lowtechcyclist: I’ve sometimes thought of trump as The Mule of Asimov’s Foundation series, a singular freak who took over the Republican party and then, temporarily, the US. But I think this gives trump and the party too much credit. He might be a yard sale Mule, or at most a dollar store Mule.
SP123
I liked the new one for one particular theme that was much better. The action was meh with a couple original mechanics, but the big difference was that this time it made it much clearer that taking the red pill is actually a difficult choice. In the first movie it was obvious he’d take the red pill- who wouldn’t want to know The Truth?- and they spoke about those poor souls who weren’t ready to be unplugged with a combination of pity and condescension.
In Resurrections both main characters are much better at demonstrating how people are connected to the lives they’ve always known and giving that up isn’t some kind of adventure you take on the say-so of a weirdo with cool glasses.
Or maybe I’m just saying that since now I have a family and was in a similar place to Cole (young, grad school, no family) when the first one came out.
JR
@dmsilev:
Not even sure Highlander 2 is the worst of the sequels.
Reboot
@lowtechcyclist: Hear, hear!
geg6
@ThresherK:
A friend of mine’s daughter is a stylist for film and tv. She can confirm that he is just a very nice and professional actor who seems to be lacking the thing that makes so many in Hollywood difficult to work with: massive ego. She loved. working with him.
Brachiator
@Major Major Major Major:
Which is enough to scare me away. I am a fan of many films and tv shows, but I hate most demonstrative and demanding and entitled fandom. I certainly do not want to be serviced.
The new Matrix film has received mixed reviews from people I know, so I am not in a hurry to see it. I loved the hell out of the original film. Was disappointed with the second and third films.
When I first saw the teaser trailer for this follow-up I wondered what was John Wick doing in a Matrix movie?
cope
Good god, man, it’s just a fucking movie. Watch it or don’t but do not let it become a thing in your brain tormenting you. Life’s short.
JimV
You realize the scene with the red and blue pills in the original was bullshit? Neo’s body was in a bathtub somewhere. Those were imaginary pills, imaginarily ingested by an imaginary Neo.
To me it was like most movies. You get caught up in the excitement, then on your way out of the theatre it hits you: wait a minute, that didn’t make any sense. It was bullshit.
Take “Inside Man” which has been on HBO lately. Great movie, but wait a minute. The police know how tall CLive Owen’s character is and what he sounds like. They know he didn’t come out of the bank with the hostages. He must be still inside, hiding. So you bring in some dogs and find him, you don’t accept that he vanished into thin air. There are other problems too, like why couldn’t they play back the security tape and identify all the actual hostages (as they came into the bank, prior to the arrival of the bank robbers)? Screenwriters have no respect for viewers. They expect us to just accept magical thinking.
Don’t even get me started on “The Usual Suspects”.
SadOldGuy
Please watch two transgender women explain that the Matrix movies are really about lesbian romance and communism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0VnYcMHuDc
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: Totally agree.
Overboard is one of my favorite movies of all time, and the remake was lame and disappointing.
But it didn’t spoil the original one bit!
fancycwabs
I’ve only watched the first hour because Christmas, and that hour was pretty entertaining–like a Matrix movie, but by someone who’d directed Speed Racer. And everyone looks great–Keanu’s close to the age Andy Griffith was when he made Matlock, and Carrie Anne Moss is older than Rue MacLanahan was when The Golden Girls first aired.
That said, the themes of this one include “people who take The Matrix too seriously can be problematic” and “god damn it you people who only want sequels to already proven IP have already ruined Space Jam, and it’s your fault Warner Brothers” so bear that in mind.
zhena gogolia
@Wyatt Salamanca: Wow. I have to read some papers on Hemon today.
Capri
@HumboldtBlue: Isn’t that the plot of Kate and Leopold with some Christmas plastered on?
I think Keanu is a good metaphor for the Matrix. Twenty years ago he was amazingly hot – the best looking man on the planet. Now he can’t stop clocks, but he’s still mighty fine and better than most. Worth taking a look at.
rb
Yes and no. The movie asks you to accept that if the digital self is killed in the matrix then likewise the physical body will die in reality, and that injuries sustained inside the matrix have physiological consequences outside it. It also stipulates that severing the body’s connection to the matrix before the consciousness is ‘beamed out’ or whatever results in the death of both.
This is all stretching ‘mind over matter’ to someplace between silly and absurd, but the existence of real-world physical consequences to taking virtual pills isn’t any more of a reach than the rest.
I liked Inside Man, but I think the movie it remade (Quick Change) was better.
BigJimSlade
@Wyatt Salamanca: I’ve also heard about the red pill/blue pill thing being used to describe meditation and buddhism. The thing about the right wing doing it is that they get it exactly wrong and immerse themselves into a bizarro-world fantasy land.
Sister Golden Bear
Even if it’s not good, I’ll watch it just because it’s Lana Wachowski’s middle finger to all the wing nuts who co-oped the whole red pill thing. The latter is particularly amusing to me because 1) the Wachowskis have confirmed the first Matrix is a trans allegory, and 2) at the time it was written the most commonly prescribed version of estrogen, used by trans woman, came in, you guessed it, a red pill.
BigJimSlade
@dmsilev: Reminds me of a sticker I saw on the back of a Toyota Highlander. Six (?) stick figures with no heads, and one stick figure, head intact, holding a sword up.
dopey-o
No Dead Cat Bounce if you don’t open that box.