President Joe Biden visited the Port of Baltimore to tout billions of dollars included in a $1 trillion infrastructure bill aimed at unclogging the nation's ports, easing shortages and combating inflation https://t.co/lyeuocMHSl pic.twitter.com/AlFggfbgJq
— Reuters (@Reuters) November 11, 2021
.@VP announces that the US has joined an agreement of 80 countries & 100s of corporations to hash out norms & mobilize defensive resources in cyberspace. The French government launched the initiative in 2018, but the Trump administration declined to join.https://t.co/lguEQAHNwY
— Sean Lyngaas (@snlyngaas) November 10, 2021
Update:
-The number of workers losing their jobs is at the lowest level since the pandemic began
-Unemployment claims are down 70% since January & have declined for 6 consecutive weeks
-Our economic recovery has happened years faster than our recovery from the 2008 recession pic.twitter.com/YW6Mfb8IfB— The White House (@WhiteHouse) November 10, 2021
Readership capture, possibly:
I’ve been working on this project for a while and I’m incredibly excited to announce my brand new newsletter, “The Good in Us” in which we come together to save American democracy, or at least have fun while trying. 1/ pic.twitter.com/78MoakfxHz
— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) November 10, 2021
You can read “The Good in Us” for free, at the moment (although there is a subscription option).
So please check out The Good in Us. I will pull no punches and do my best to find humor wherever I can. There will be community, there will be dialogue, and more importantly, there will be a lot of pictures of my pets. I can’t wait to see you there. 5/5
— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) November 10, 2021
randy khan
The unemployment news is way, way more important than the inflation story, as it’s extremely likely that the inflation is transient.
In other news, I had my booster shot yesterday – no muss, no fuss, no particular side effects except some soreness at the injection site (same as the first two shots), and I got a $5 Target coupon that, as they wanted, I promptly used.
p.a.
“The 13 Appeals Courts are the most powerful in the nation behind only the Supreme Court. Blue courts are ones that have Democratic majorities and red ones have Republican majorities. The Democrats just flipped the Second Circuit yesterday.”
Click for map:
https://mapsontheweb.zoom-maps.com/post/667406103212163072/the-13-appeals-courts-are-the-most-powerful-in-the
debbie
Oh, boy. NPR’s featuring Josh Hawley’s defense of masculinity. Where have I heard this before? ?
Betty
@randy khan: If you just get Joe Manchin to accept this to take away his last excuse for blocking BBB, all would be (almost) right in the world. Here’s hoping someone can.
Cameron
Sorry. If she’s a Trump, she’s looking for dollar-dollar-bill.
Chief Oshkosh
@Cameron: You can join for free. There is a subscription option. I see the same model for almost every well-produced YT channel or podcast, often using patreon or some other monetizing instrument. Maybe Mary’s life is a good reminder that visiting the sins of the father (or uncle and grandfather, in this instance) onto the child is wrong. That said, it remains to be seen whether her newsletter is actually interesting or useful.
Baud
More anti-Baud! propaganda!
Kay
I can’t warm up to Mary Trump. Maybe I’ve seen too many battles over estates. Obviously Trump, Melania, the grown children are horrible, but what if they’re all horrible?
Cameron
@Chief Oshkosh: You can join the army for free, too. Doesn’t mean you won’t get your ass shot off. One of the many bad effects Our Supreme Oaf (2016 – 202?) had on me is that I don’t believe much of anything I hear.
Gvg
When I read lots of pet pictures, I wondered if she read Balloon Juice. She is not Donald, that’s for sure. Don’t know if the site will be good, but she sounds normal.
Patricia Kayden
Patricia Kayden
@Kay: Mary Trump has repeatedly spoken up against her uncle loudly and no hands barred. That’s a huge plus. Whether she’s a mean person on a personal level isn’t that important, imho. I’m tired of cowards who only criticize Trump anonymously. They’re the problems.
Cameron
@Patricia Kayden: Given the judge’s openly stated views, young Kyle is going to waltz like he’s a prince in 19th-century Vienna.
Betty Cracker
@Gvg: I follow her on Twitter, and she seems like a good and genuine person. She sees her awful extended family for what it is, that’s for sure.
topclimber
OT: Does this guy have a shot at taking out Mike Lee?
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Cameron: Apparently there really is such a thing as a license to kill
Kay
@Patricia Kayden:
True. It’s just the family connection and the underlying issue with the estate complicate it for me. I guess I don’t see her as more credible than other (betraying) Trump associated people. I’d prefer a real whistleblower- an accountant or a witness to the sexual assaults. I know, so demanding! :)
Betty Cracker
@p.a.: Great news about the flip, and it’s so useful to have it mapped out like that, so thanks for sharing the link!
I wish newspapers would identify who appointed the judges (when applicable) in all court coverage. It’s way past time to quit pretending it doesn’t matter, and the public could use the reminder about the effect voting has on the judiciary.
debbie
@Patricia Kayden:
I’ve listened to an hourlong interview she had with Terri Gross when her book came out, and she showed zero signs of any similarity to any of her terrible family members.
mali muso
Good morning! In my little corner of the world, my kiddo and I are awaiting the return of Mr. mali muso today after a 3 week absence. After finally quitting a job he has hated for a decade, he took a little sabbatical and walked a good portion of the Camino de Santiago in Spain. And yes, I am spouse of the year for holding down the fort in his absence.
O. Felix Culpa
@mali muso: Yes, you are! I walked the Camino de Santiago a few years ago, also to mark and contemplate a major life transition, and it was one of the best things I ever did. I hope your husband found it worthwhile too. Good on you for giving him the space to do that.
debbie
@Cameron:
He doesn’t even pretend to hide his bias. I wonder if he’s been asked to recuse himself at any point.
zhena gogolia
@debbie: I read her book, and it’s excellent. She’s as hard on herself as on anybody, and she gives a superb psychological analysis of her horrible family.
Chief Oshkosh
@Cameron: I don’t see the analogy about military service, but if in the second part of your response you’re saying that TFG’s tactics have made you question reality, then he’s succeeding. I get the same feeling off and on all the time — just one more reason to work to crush him and his ilk, to see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentations of their kin (except for Mary, maybe).
rikyrah
Good Morning Everyone ???
rikyrah
@randy khan:
Yeah for the booster ????
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
“Republicans, which I do not support, are now openly calling for book burning. As a free speech advocate, I feel it is appropriate that members of those communities express themselves this way as a rebuke to liberals.”
– by Glenn Greenwald
mali muso
@O. Felix Culpa: Very cool! Yeah, I am looking forward to hearing all about his experience when he gets back tonight. The photos and videos he’s sent have been great. The concept of pilgrimage, separating from your daily routine and getting back to basics (walk, eat, sleep), is universal, judging from how it shows up in almost every major religion. So clearly, there’s some value to it. :)
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
“In the Kindle age, should book burning still be anathema?” #SlatePitch
Betty
@Kay: She has been a whistleblower. She gave voluminous financial records to the NYT to expose Donald’s tax schemes. Just thought I should note that.
O. Felix Culpa
@mali muso: You’ve succinctly summed up the experience. I loved having my daily routine stripped down to wake, walk, sleep (with a glass of vino tinto thrown in at the end of the day). Plus every day was a new adventure, seeing new things, encountering new people. You experience a country differently traversing it on foot.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: Good one! :)
@debbie: Will have to look up that interview. Terry Gross is an excellent interviewer, IMO.
Barbara
@mali muso: Good for him! Which part? My neighbor wants to do part of it but she is intimidated by many of the routes. I’m trying to collect anecdotes about the pros and cons of individual sections.
Kay
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
There was a “parents rights in schools” movement in the 1990’s and it foundered on the same thing – it was presented as not ideologically driven but was obviously conservative in practice and they immediately commenced book bannings. Nothing they do is ever new. It’s always rebranding.
Dog Dawg Damn
Good morning everyone.
Poring over the Election Day data and seeing troubling trends. Hispanics and Asian American vote swung dramatically to the GOP, demonstrating that these voting blocks aren’t as secure as some of us had thought.
https://twitter.com/patrickruffini/status/1458578729085640714?s=21
https://twitter.com/rossbarkan/status/1458585112174632967?s=21
Barbara
@topclimber: Probably not. I think we need to pare back our unicorn thinking, at least when it’s not a special election. E.g., going full force for Doug Jones was worth every penny, but not so much some of the long shots for 2020. I won’t be donating.
Baud
@Dog Dawg Damn: That’s good. The GOP could use greater diversity.
mali muso
@Barbara: He did the section on the Camino Frances from Leon to Santiago. We estimated it would take about two weeks of solid walking, but he pushed himself on some of the days and finished it even quicker. I have another friend who just did the Portuguese way and said it was lovely. A good part of it goes along the coast, right near the water.
Ken
Your campaign theme song is going to be INXS’ “Devil Inside”?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@mali muso:
I think that’s the portion my wife did, too.
Cameron
@Chief Oshkosh: Conan much, dood?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Kay:
I always saw it as schools pandering to the worst sort of simpletons in their district.
Omnes Omnibus
Wow, there are a lot of assumptions and assertions in that sentence. Also, Ruffini and an Intercept dude opining on bits and pieces of info from a 2% margin of victory that matches historical trends is not something on which I would want to any major decisions. YMMV.
Baud
@Ken:
I was actually thinking of going with The Human League’s “Don’t You Want Me?”
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Chief Oshkosh:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGOQ7SsJrw
Obligatory citation to “Conan, the Musical”
It is a magnificent work.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Did you ever really work as a waitress in cocktail bar? People do fact check Democrats.
karen marie
@Chief Oshkosh: I’ve had enough of all Trumps, including Mary. She’s just another grifter as far as I’m concerned, making bank on her unfortunate relationship. I don’t begrudge her wanting to capitalize but she’ll do it without my support or participation.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: That much is true.
topclimber
@Kay: As an Armenian bookseller in my past put it, “plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.” (Accents optional).
Let us travel back to good old Island Trees, NY, 1976, where school board members went to a conference about the dangers of secular humanism, and came home to ban books. A 5-4 Supreme Court decision said no.
This was back in the day when Raven was 27, not 72.
ETA: My hometown.
Kay
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
That’s what moral panics do- they create panicked, dumb reactions. The anti-woke mob are currently parsing math teaching methods looking for CRT. They don’t know anything about “math teaching methods” so they don’t know some of these approaches have been tried and experimented with and battled over for years, in the specialized area of “math teaching methods”- a corner of the world they’re not familiar with. So you jump into that world with an agenda and start pulling out snippets with no context or history and that feeds the panic. Political actors on the Right then recognize they can use it, so they do. That’s the place on the panic timeline we’re at now.
zhena gogolia
@Dog Dawg Damn: Спасибо, товарищ, очень интересно.
DogDawgDamn
@Omnes Omnibus: This is just two data points in a larger context. Considering the Rio Grande Valley swing in 2020….it’s something to keep an eye on.
Baud
@Kay:
“Doing the research,” mathematics edition.
Kay
@topclimber:
Ha! The precurser to “political correctness”. There was another one- a variation- “moral relativism”. That was big for the Bush family.
Baud
@Kay:
Between songs and right-wing panics, this thread is turning into an 80s flashback.
Ken
The preferred BJ
dog whistlejargon is “common clay of the new west”.Omnes Omnibus
@Kay: FWIW, in the ’90s, there was a 614 number one could call to get a daily recorded message from Dial A Secular Humanist.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Bad Baud
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@zhena gogolia:
I’m pleased to still be able to read that without a translator or dictionary.
p.a.
@Kay: White math: under certain special circumstances, 1= 3/5.
Kay
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
There’s real elitism in the anti-woke mob attack on colleges, because they lump all colleges and universities together. Most people go to college for some kind of work or profession driven training. “Business” or “accounting” or “nursing” or “engineering”. If you add that huge group in- the majority! – the whole “captured by the Left” theory falls apart.
“Business” is always the most popular college major and has been for years. Hardly a hot bed of Leftist thought.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: Are there Religious Humanists?
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: FWIW the touchy feely ways of teaching math and physics aren’t necessarily more effective than the traditional ways. I have taught intro college courses both ways.
These subjects require a substantial commitment from students before they reveal their secrets and become rewarding.
Bex
@Kay: What if they aren’t? Read her books if you haven’t. Give her a chance.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Erasmus?
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
I feel like I grasp math concepts and principles better now than I did when I was a kid. Maybe if I had a different experience in school, my whole life trajectory would have been different. I’ve always liked math.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: I always forget about him.
Bex
@Cameron: You can read Balloon Juice for free. Whether you do or not, does that mean you don’t believe anything you read here?
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Biggest problem in my opinion is that high school math and science is taught by many a teacher who is not comfortable with the subject matter and they pass that unease to their students.
Ken
@Baud: Monty Python left him out of the song.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: I can’t help but wonder how I would have done if I had access to the Internet resources available to students today.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Looked at tentacle porn.
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: ?
DogDawgDamn
@schrodingers_cat:
Just like Scientology.
Betty Cracker
@schrodingers_cat: That could be true. Also, some people are just stupid about math. Like me. :)
My poor sister dragged my ass over the finish line of the required math courses in college. Otherwise, I’d have been sunk!
Kay
@Bex:
Honestly I’m not going to read her book. I don’t wish her any ill will! I just don’t have that much patience with the whole family. I feel like they’ve been large enough in our lives. I was never a “what makes Donald Trump tick?” person. I get it but I feel like I was forced to deal with one branch of the family and I just don’t want to think about their family anymore, unless they’re paying me :)
Steve in the ATL
@Baud: I’m wearing Zubaz right now
Sure Lurkalot
@Baud: Don’t You Want Me Baby. The toddler vote could be huge if we would just extend the franchise.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: Ah, yes, there is that danger. Perhaps I’d be in even worse shape today.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat: My guess as to what Baud would have done with earlier access to the internet.
Chief Oshkosh
@Cameron: My existence balances all the nice, thoughtful, positive people here. ;)
schrodingers_cat
@DogDawgDamn: WTF are you saying ? Math and physics is like scientology? How so?
DogDawgDamn
@Kay: Don’t forget post-modernism. Remember when that was all the rage?
I was at a college preview event in 1999 in Dallas, TX, and several parents lodged questions about whether post-modernism was taught at the university presenting….the poor presenters didn’t know what they were talking about. (The answer was “yes”, though, because how on earth do you teach philosophy without mentioning post-modernism.)
Baud
@Steve in the ATL:
So you’re in the middle of union negotiations?
topclimber
@Barbara: I wouldn’t send a dime either.
But if I were puffing up a pipe-dream, I would suggest:
1. McMullin got name recognition and a 20% of the vote when he ran against Trump in 2016.
2. Dem Primary is semi-open, which means independents and Dems who suspect this is not their year to go it alone could give him a second line.
3. An indy with Dem line just might find favor with Sen. Sinema. I have read before on BJ that many Mormon women, including the many less religious ones, like her. Imagine them campaigning together.
Go Bee-Hive Republicans–show your independence.
ETA: Less religious should be less doctrinaire.
schrodingers_cat
@Betty Cracker: I think math is a skill like say swimming or driving, you get better at it the more you do it. Anyone can do it if they put in the effort. And it is hard. I struggled mightily with Algebra when it was first introduced (6th and 7th grades) but I kept at it and something clicked. Also helped that my parents were good at math. They got me the help I needed.
Many students seem to think that if they watch Khan Academy videos they will magically become good problem solvers themselves.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Betty Cracker:
Think of it like this – every movement you make with your body requires your brain to engage in set of calculations of differential equations, geometry and physics on a near instantaneous basis. It is doing it subconsciously, within the root of your operating system.
Steve in the ATL
@Baud: yes. I wear parachute pants for arbitrations.
Baud
@Steve in the ATL: It’s important to convey gravitas.
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
“I move, therefore I pass trig.”
?BillinGlendaleCA
I got a drone yesterday(DJI Mini 2), can get some shots I could never get before.
topclimber
@schrodingers_cat: Different effect for different people perhaps?
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Congrats! Can’t wait to see the shots.
Kay
@DogDawgDamn:
I went to a college presentation with my oldest where a contingent of religious parents – it was a public school- managed to so rattle the 25 year old employee who got stuck with the job that he ended up denying that the university stops students from attending church. I thought “oh, there’s blood in the water now! They got a denial!”
As if. As if anyone at that huge place is paying any attention at all to the church-going freshman’s Sunday activities.
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Let me be the first to say, “DROOOONNZZZZZ!!!11!”
wenchacha
Veterans Day, and I honor the service of all the people who served.
Lots of WWII movies on various tv channels today. I’m more sensitive to it now that I have a Japanese daughter-in-law, but a lot of those old movies have tough guys hating on the “dirty Japs.” Ugly. Will that ever be censored like some other racial epithets?
My mom’s family had German heritage, but the US had lots of German immigrants from earlier times. Did people with German surnames get much abuse during the war? Were any German-Americans put in camps?
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I love trig! So much fun solving those identities. Its because of trig and triangulation how we found the height of Mt Everest among other things.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: It’s not my first, but the first I can actually fly without crashing more that flying. I’m just testing out the stuff it can do, I may go wild and even shoot video.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: Oh, god. You said the T word. Now we’re going to have a whole bunch of comments from people getting worked up about Bill Clinton.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: Heh.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I was thinking the same thing, should I be concerned?
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Some of the high-quality drone videos I’ve seen are really amazing.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: To be honest, you probably should be.
schrodingers_cat
@wenchacha: There was substantial anti-German sentiment during WWI. Sauerkraut was called Liberty Cabbage. Many people went underground with their German identity. IIRC the number of German language publications dwindled to almost nothing.
But of course the Japanese-Americans didn’t have the luxury since they looked visibly different.
schrodingers_cat
@topclimber: Some concepts like forces lend themselves to an intuitive understanding some like potential energy and work don’t.
Plus divorcing physics from math makes it unnecessarily more difficult.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: How does one divorce physics from math?
Omnes Omnibus
FW De Klerk has died.
debbie
@Betty Cracker:
Here you go.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: I think it requires a dispensation for the Pope.
PST
@schrodingers_cat: The anti-German hostility seems to have been much greater during the First World War than the Second. That’s when a lot of Schmidts, Muellers, and Kochs became Smiths, Millers, and Cooks. German Hospital of Chicago, on the street where I used to live, became Grant Hospital.
Gvg
@wenchacha: I think there was some, but I also recall it happened in WWI, then after people realized it was overblown. Posters about baby killing Huns. I was taught in elementary school in the 60’s, that this made people cynically assume stories about the Natzi atrocities during WWII were exaggerated.
When I was growing up, it was pretty common for people to refuse to ever buy German or Japanese products. Sometimes it was certain companies that had produced tanks or planes.
A lot of German families changed their names during and after WWI.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: You can’t. That’s what the physics education folks try to do. They think problem solving turns off students so they try to make physics more intuitive. So that they discover the concepts on their own (guided lab with peer educators). It works well for some concepts not so much for others.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: Ok, I can see how that could be helpful, but also problematic, depending on how it’s carried out.
schrodingers_cat
@PST: Yep. I have heard anecdotal examples too from folks with German last names like Hess etc. Many German-Americans had to give up their language and cultural identity in order to not stand out as different.
debbie
@schrodingers_cat:
Don’t forget that people generally never lost their mother country’s accent. One of my great-grandmothers learned English, unlike many of her contemporaries, but carried a pronounced accent for the rest of her life. I never met her, but my mother said she reminded her of an impatient Sgt. Schultz (Hogan’s Heroes).
German-Americans would have easy to single out.
Kay
Yet another anti-wokeness effort. It’s backed by a billionaire so maybe it doesn’t matter but there has to be market saturation of this “contrarian” view at some point right? How many of the same anti-wokeness screeds can they sell?
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: It is a pretty impossible task after the intro class anyways. You need both, intuitive understanding and math skills.
schrodingers_cat
@debbie: True but not the succeeding generations. I have heard similar stories from Italian Americans too. About having to forgo learning Italian from elders in order to be not singled out.
Baud
@Kay:
That’s the Sanders staffer, right?
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: Ah I remember the days when GG was feted from the front page of Balloon Juice.
@Baud: Spokesperson IIRC
PJ
@mali muso: I don’t know if there’s any religious value to it, but it’s good exercise and you get to see a lot. (I walked the Camino del Norte and Camino Primitivo this summer, 40 days.)
PJ
@Barbara: The del Norte, from Irun to Bilbao, has the best food and the best scenery in Northern Spain. (Food in Cantabria, Asturias, and Galicia is, in general, pretty bland and without variety or fresh vegetables.) The Primitivo is good if you want a relatively short camino through mostly wild areas. I also highly recommend continuing on past Santiago (which was disappointing as a terminus) to the Atlantic Coast at Fisterra or Muxia.
germy
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: Yup, and Matt Taibbi, one time anti-Wall St/Goldman Sachs hero. Remember “vampire squid”. That was awesome.
topclimber
@schrodingers_cat: I am about a 8.0 on the average numeracy scale. I even earned a gentleman’s C in two semesters of intro calculus at Syracuse University.
A few years ago I took steps to become certified as a high school math teacher. One of the shrewdest was buying “Calculus for Dummies.” Somehow their presentation made sense to me. Or maybe I learn better at my own pace, and certainly not at 8 AM three days a week in a frigid classroom where the girls I went to SU to meet were way under-represented.
Mike in NC
I had a doctor’s appointment this morning. Spent about five minutes talking to him. He said everything looked good, so he’d see me in a year.
Reminded me of how Trump would set aside five minutes on Veterans Day to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier before rushing off to hop into a golf cart. Orange piece of shit.
WereBear
@Baud: Baud! 2024.
Because he can learn.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Taibbi fits with GG, I think. Wasn’t so sure about the Sanders person. I don’t know who the other two people are.
James E Powell
@Baud:
Thomas Merton?
Baud
@WereBear:
Baud! 20XX!: There will be math!
schrodingers_cat
@topclimber:
Interesting. I was a double math and physics major. I ended up minoring in math because the more abstract forms of math
became too abstruse for me. I see math as a means to an end not an end in itself.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: They all hate Ds.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Can’t they all just get shows on Russia Today?
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
As a layman, the coolest physics/math fact that I know is that physicists will routinely cancel out dx’s as of they were fractions and math people are like OMFG THAT’S NOT ALLOWED, but yet it works.
Kay
@Baud:
Yup. The whole gang will end up on the Right- which they’ll deny ($) until the day they announce it.
schrodingers_cat
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: That was such innumerate shit. But nobody piled on him like they did on McCardle. He was a leftie hero not that long ago.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
They should call themselves The Axis.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@germy: That’s proof that the Newsmax knows it’s full of shit or they have completely lost touch with reality. Take your pick.
Geminid
@Gvg: Georgia O’Keefe was teaching school in Amarillo, Texas when the First World War broke out. The anti-German fervor extended to a requirement that teachers swear some vengeful oath against Germany. O’Keefe wouldn’t do it, and lost her job. It was too bad; O’Keefe has learned to love walking in nearby Palo Verde canyon, drawing the wildflowers.
WereBear
I topped the scale with verbal but was eh in math. I got an A in algebra but knew calculus was not for me.
NotMax
Drifted into dreamland while waiting for appearance of morning thread. Dunno if these couple of items which caught the eye have yet been mentioned.
1) FYI.
2) And then there were 600.
Musical accompaniment.
(Wonder how many anticipated that music link would lead here instead?) ;)
Baud
@Kay:
“will end up”?
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: You know who else is going to end up there, Kasky and Hogg, the Parkland kids.
mali muso
@PJ: Awesome! Seems like everyone I know who has walked the Camino goes back for another round, usually trying a different route. I’m not quite sure if our little family of 3 (including 5 year old) is ready to do it as a group activity, but maybe in a few years.
germy
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I think they just want their viewers usefully angry and potentially violent.
Kay
@Baud:
Not everyone is on board :)
“@meetzow
Replying to @andraydomise
Alright sorry, “picking up a check from Peter Thiel’s best friend and former COO who co-wrote books about why diversity is bad to host a podcast with Glenn Greenwald” apologize for the imprecision.”
I wonder if they’ll endorse “JD” in the Ohio senate race. Please. I would love that.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@schrodingers_cat: and paved the way for the demonization of Hillary Clinton for talking to a corporate retreat
Ohio Mom
@Baud: Humanistic Judaism. They omit all references to the supernatural but keep the basics of traditional Jewish services and holidays, celebrate Jewish culture, etc.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: There is nothing wrong with doing that. Mathematicians can be pedantic sometimes.
Baud
@Kay:
I don’t know who those Twitter people are.
Spot on with the JD Vance theory. As predictions go, that’s a pretty good one.
Betty Cracker
Remember David Horowitz, former red diaper baby who edited Ramparts and then evolved to neocon and went full-on fascist because 9/11 or something? Greanweld* is a Horowitz.
*Don’t want to accidentally summon the specter, though perhaps policing blogs isn’t a priority these days.
Jeffro
I don’t know, but I think we’re going to find out.
schrodingers_cat
@Betty Cracker: Wasn’t he in BJ comments awhile ago.
sab
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I habe always whether any of those kind of parents have ever voted for a school levy in their entire life.
Omnes Omnibus
@Betty Cracker: The differences, such as it is, is that Horowitz was once genuinely of the far left.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@germy: That sure feels like they are mocking their own viewers to their faces. “Haha! We got you so riled up you don’t realize you are screaming at a puppet”
O. Felix Culpa
@PJ: I walked the Frances in 2015 and del Norte a few years after. San Sebastian was a favorite town, not least because of the most excellent tapas. What did you think of the Primitivo? It’s on my list, along with a few others.
Kay
@schrodingers_cat:
I don’t think they’re savvy and cool enough to be invited. The “free speech” forums have an obvious winnowing mechanism, right? They’re invitation only. There’s always selection going on, in both the forums they complain about and the forums they run. They just select for different things. Joe Rogan doesn’t actually invite “anyone” on his show. I can’t go. He selects the views and subjects presented.
James E Powell
@schrodingers_cat:
I teach writing and I say “It’s like swimming” probably too often. Trying to get teenagers to put in effort, to do something that is difficult, to keep going through failure, is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I’m rarely successful.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Betty Cracker: I think Horowitz was a full-on rightie by the 90s. I forget what converted him. Those transformations are interesting though. Ronald Reagan was a New Dealer, IIRC. Arianna Huffington went from desperately trying to sell herself as the Pamela Harriman of the Gingrich right to leading “Fuck Gore” chants (from the left) outside the 2000 Dem Convention in the space of about six months (then she became a sleep advocate then took the quarter of a billion she got for selling her blog and disappeared). Jennifer Rubin went from embarrassing Romney stan to (assuming it holds) fairly conventional Democrat. Nicolle Wallace helped sell the Iraq War, tried to teach Sarah Palin to speak in complete sentences, and now she’s pretty much a twitter Green Lanternist with a TeeVee show.
Kay
@schrodingers_cat:
It’s funny because it becomes predictable. Andrew Sullivan chooses select “Leftists” he promotes. He’s checked the box for diverse opinion, but not in any real way that will do anything about his TAXES going up or anything :)
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: Oh they will get there. Hogg routinely rants about withholding his vote if Ds don’t do this that or the other.
Like Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are his personal valet service. He is a Republican in “progressive” clothing.
Baud
I never realized until now what a rock I am when it comes to political outlook.
schrodingers_cat
@James E Powell: My experience teaching math and physics mirrors yours.
Conclusion: Any skill worth attaining requires effort and hard work.
Just Chuck
All right fess up, which one of you is Mary Trump?
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
germy
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
The NRA mocks their members behind their backs.
Newsmax mocks its audience to their faces.
Frankensteinbeck
@Kay:
Ratfucking by pretend lefties works. I have seen how young idealists are turned away from voting Democrat, sometimes permanently. It is why I am angry with Bernie to this day. Market saturation is meaningless when the goal is propaganda, not profit.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m sure you’ve seen this.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
https://youtu.be/xXlYt5JCrZw
Kay
@schrodingers_cat:
I think Pelosi is a once in a lifetime talent. She’s very good at that job. Schumer though? Not impressed.
I met him in Detroit once and he’s funny and smart. My son – who was then 15 or so- really liked him- he kind of bombards with charm. I think he’s probably a good Senator- works hard for his state, etc but I think he’s been a really mediocre Senate leader. It’s not the same skill.
Betty Cracker
@schrodingers_cat: Why do you think the Parkland kids will become wingnuts?
ETA: Never mind. You answered that question already. I think you’re wrong, but we’ll see.
Kay
@Frankensteinbeck:
You’re familiar with all this, right? The “horseshoe” theory that says Left and Right will link arms around a common purpose? Only happens during Democratic administrations and then mysteriously disappears until the next Democratic President? It’s that again :)
New Deal democrat
@randy khan: Actually, as of yesterday the inflation picture became much more serious. Rather than recapitulate the reasons here, when my article goes up at Seeking Alpha in about an hour, I will link to it.
Sure Lurkalot
@O. Felix Culpa: Have been to Spain a few times, no Camino (yet!), but I’ll second your recommendation of San Sebastian as a place to visit. It’s a little gem with good food, day hikes, natural beauty, even a decent aquarium.
James E Powell
President Joe in Baltimore evokes Season 2 of the The Wire.
Kay
@Frankensteinbeck:
This commmon purpose just seems small, though. Once they root out the cafeteria authoritarians at Oberlin what next for this brave band of warriors? Shouldn’t it be…bigger?
There go two miscreants
They think of “teaching” as if it’s the same as their approach to religion: indoctrination. It’s not just learning about post-modernism, it’s indoctrination into “post-modernism” (and they probably have no idea what that is either). Their internal confidence in their own belief system is so weak that just learning about other ideas is a threat to it!
WaterGirl
@Kay: Are you suggesting that the horseshoe theory IS REAL when we have Dems in office?
Or are you suggesting that the horseshoe theory only gets talked about when we have Dems in office?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kay: as you say, Pelosi as a legislator is like Obama as a candidate, a once-in-a-lifetime phenom. But leading the Dem Senate caucus, especially but not only this one, would be damn hard job for anyone. Even leaving aside mercurial personalities like Sinema and Manchin, and all the peculiarities of the Great Gerrymanders of 1789 and the late 19th century, Democrats are far more invested in the cult of The Senate, the now laughable idea of “World’s Greatest Deliberative Body” than Republicans.
Republicans are bound together, underneath trumpism and everything else, by the core belief that the greatest problem in this country is that the rich have it too hard and the poor have it too easy. It’s why nothing will turn Mitt Romney against McConnell. It’s why Jeff Flake and Bob Corker, their reputations notwithstanding, never meaningfully opposed trump when they could. It’s why Susan Collins called the 1/6 committee a partisan witch hunt.
Omnes Omnibus
@Kay: I think that’s a bit unfair to Schumer. He has a virtually impossible task. He cannot lose any senator over any little issue on any vote. Who could do better?
eclare
@James E Powell: That thought occurred to me too
Kay
@WaterGirl:
The fabled alliance between the Left and the Right only booms when we have a Democrat in office, which also coincides with threats to raise taxes and regulations.
If I’m Peter Theil it is a hell of a lot cheaper to bankroll some token Lefties and give them a forum to attack an incumbent Democrat than it is to pay more taxes. The further Left they are the better- there’s almost zero risk they’ll ever be in power, but I can swan around talking about “expanding the space” knowing none of these people are ever getting elected to anything.
Kay
@WaterGirl:
The fabled alliance between the Left and the Right only booms when we have a Democrat in office, which also coincides with threats to raise taxes and regulations.
If I’m Peter Theil it is a hell of a lot cheaper to bankroll some token Lefties and give them a forum to attack an incumbent Democrat than it is to pay more taxes. The further Left they are the better- there’s almost zero risk they’ll ever be in power, but I can swan around talking about “expanding the space” knowing none of these people are ever getting elected to anything.
MisterForkbeard
@Kay: It’s amazing how nuts this is, too. I went to a public state college in California and the local evangelical churches had special privileges on campus. They didn’t hold services, but they had a special portion of the campus bookstore reserved for them and their events were billed equally with the actual week-of-welcome events and even shown on official college flyers and so on.
That was in the early 2000s.
Kay
The antiwoke morons believe Miami of Ohio is a hotbed of radicals. Jesus fucking christ.
The University that is most famous in the local high school guidance office for offering a 5 year business/MBA track.
Have they ever been to Ohio University? It’s in Appalachia.
Kay
Marxists. Clearly.
Abnormal Hiker
My favorite Camino was following Jakobsweg and then Chemin de Compostelle from Bludenz Austria to Le Puy France. Walking across Switzerland was sublime.
sab
I just saw an article in Cleveland Plain Dealer that some Dick Celeste people have started a Democratic SuperPac modeled on Lincoln Project that will focus on publicizing the extreme corruption in Ohio Republican politics over the last decade. They are frustrated with how little attention the corruption has received, that Ohio Democratic messaging has been failing us. Electronic Classroom, First Energy etc.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: Lots of folks thought Harry Reid sucked, until they didn’t.
Schumer is no Nancy Pelosi, but I think has risen to the occasion much more than I expected he would.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Kay: You’re not seeing the sure win the Grifter set up here;
Grifter “We need to stop this Nursing School from teaching this Liberal Alternative History flippy flap!”
Mob “Kill the Nursing School history professors”
School Spokesperson (in weary voice) “Again, the Cleveland School of Nursing doesn’t have a history department. We offer classes for nursing and EMT degrees and certification.”
Grifter “VICTORY! You see; even the academics reject Wokeness.”
Mob cheers and parades a Big Bird head on stick with red streamers hanging from it’s neck.
WaterGirl
@Kay: Interesting. Thanks for the explanation.
WaterGirl
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Well done. And very depressing in its truth.
Gravenstone
@Omnes Omnibus: Let’s not be judging the Baud’s life choices here.
WaterGirl
@Gravenstone: I appreciate that Baud gets a “the” in your sentence.
Kay
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Attacking Cleveland State? Really? All those striving low and lower middle class first gen college students who are getting a credential so they’ll make more than 15 an hour? This is what the NYTimes columnists who went to Ivy League schools want to be part of?
They should be ashamed of themselves.
PJ
@mali muso: Yeah, I’m planning to go back next year. I highly recommend it if you have the time. It’s too much walking every day for a five year old, but by the time they are ten or so I would think they would probably be fine.
PJ
@O. Felix Culpa: Yeah, San Sebastian was great for food. However, I should not have stayed out until 2AM before my first day of walking.
I definitely recommend the Primitivo. The scenery isn’t quite as dramatic as the del Norte, but there are some great views (particularly the day doing Hospitales), and I really liked Oviedo and Lugo.
PJ
@Abnormal Hiker: One day I’d like to walk across France on the Camino, and also to tackle the Via Francigena, from Canterbury down to Rome (and beyond).
Omnes Omnibus
@Gravenstone: Hey, everyone needs a hobby. I judge Baud’s life choices. It’s cheaper than collecting model trains.
sab
@Kay: My whole office is full of Cleveland State grads. Dads were factory workers, now they are really competent white collar professionals.
James E Powell
@WaterGirl:
Some time ago I opined in this forum that our troika of Biden, Pelosi, & Schumer is the best troika at knowing how the government works and how to get shit done than we have had since – I forget when I said – but a long long time.
If memory serves, my opinion was greeted with derisive laughter. Nevertheless, I stand by it.
PJ
@mali muso:
@O. Felix Culpa:
For anyone who is curious about the Camino, I am giving a half hour Zoom talk about my experiences this coming Monday, November 15, at 7:30PM EST: https://americanpilgrims.org/inspire_events/online-new-york-city-chapter-walking-the-camino-primitivo-in-summer-2021/
sab
@Kay: On the other hand Ohio U does have a really strong journalism department.
patroclus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Horowitz “converted” because he got way too involved with the Black Panthers and landed a job as a bookkeeper for a woman named Betty Van Patten (sp?) with them, who was brutally murdered (presumably by them). That’s what he said in Radical Son. But what also (really) happened was that he discovered that, because he was a good writer, he could make a lot of money grifting off the Right. He’s stuck with that for a few decades now. I continue to believe that he’s not as bad as some and there’s still an intelligent guy in there somewhere, but it’s increasingly difficult to find. If he ever switched back, his memoirs would be priceless – kind of like Francis Schaeffer.
O. Felix Culpa
@PJ: Thanks for the heads-up! I’ve registered. :)
mali muso
@PJ: Thanks for sharing! I will save the link and hope to make it. :)
Omnes Omnibus
@James E Powell: I think you have a valid argument. One of the things is that they have to be skilled because they aren’t working with majorities that you weigh rather than count. They can’t afford a slip up of any kind.
Quiltingfool
Can’t read Russian, so went to google translate!
Ты моя любимая!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@sab: That would explain why the some Ivy league Opinion Columnist is attacking it then. One would guess some working class reporter looking for career advancement isn’t just going to phone in endless road side dinner interviews.
Gravenstone
@Kay: Well that’s quite the rogue’s gallery of human garbage there.
glc
@Baud: Ask the Vatican for an annulment?
marklar
@Baud: I’ve always seen math as a language, and physicists speak slang!
marklar
@Ohio Mom: I’ve created my own denomination for Jews such as this….I call it Jewnitarian Jewniversalist!
James E Powell
@Omnes Omnibus:
The crux of my argument is Biden. Carter, Clinton, and Obama all came into the White House with almost no federal experience. If we wanted to waste a lot of time, we could go back over each one’s first years and point out the kind of bad moves that our current Top Three would never make.
sab
@James E Powell: Biden had no Federal experience? He has been there since he was 32 and he is almost 80. Executive did you mean?
James E Powell
@sab:
Biden, then a period. Then a new sentence.
sab
@James E Powell: Okay. Now I understand and agree wholeheartedly
ETA I need new glasses and a bigger computer screen.
sab
Werebear was here earlier.
Dobby the demon cat is now a totally integrated member of our cat colony. He is comfortable and they are comfortable. Safe at home in house was a new concept to him. Now he is fine with it. Even Shadow the mean kitty who hated him is just teasing now. He is fun to tease because he is so young and so lively. So older cats are piling on because they are bored. But everyone is cool, and he knows where to run for relief.
I bought him a toy purple dachsund that he kicks the crap out of when he is frustrated. He hauls it around all over the house and bites and kicks it a lot.
There go two miscreants
@sab: That one threw me for a moment also.
sab
@sab: It has squeakers, and he has never set one off.
Uncle Cosmo
Why am I (sadly) not at all surprised?
Hispanics are fractured seventeen ways from Sunday by country of origin and social class; culturally extremely conservative (anyone who left the Catholic Church went over to the fundies); soaked in machismo and profound disgust for non-heterosexual lifestyles; and riddled with “small businessmen” pissed off at “gummint regulation” (i.e., actually having to obey the law if it’s gonna cost them a few cents).
Go check out the frequency of Hispanic surnames that show up on Far Wrong and Trumpista sites. Reflect that pre-2008 Dubya and Jeb Bush were all hot to broker an immigration deal they were convinced would lock the Spanish-speaking vote into the GOP column for a generation. Huge numbers of Hispanic voters will be only too happy, once the Thuglicans grandfather them into “whiteness,” to take over the Italian-Americans’ current task of forgetting their former oppression and yanking the ladder away from every other disadvantaged group.
The Democrats may still poll something like 53-47 – if we’re lucky – but it won’t be any sort of panacea.