reminder: one party is sabotaging democracy . the other is trying to pass an infrastructure bill
would be nice is press spelled that out everyday https://t.co/6ujPC2Qxll
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) October 21, 2021
under Biden jobs are up, unemployment down, stock market up, consumer spending up
but loud Beltway assumption is economy is in the tank
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) October 21, 2021
(Per 538's average. https://t.co/EkT3Ga8Shp)
— Joshua Holland (@JoshuaHol) October 21, 2021
If you get panicked about an election that is more than a year away, even after all that happened in the last years, I don't know what to tell you.
— max weber stan account (@Convolutedname) October 20, 2021
germy
zhena gogolia
It’s all so depressing. Are people incapable of remembering what it was like one year ago?
WaterGirl
@germy: Holy shit. Oath Keepers in the statehouses. Dog help us.
O. Felix Culpa
@zhena gogolia: They do seem to have less memory than goldfish. I also suspect the memory-holing is deliberate. The dominant media framing–so different from the TFG years–is a choice.
Jeffro
@zhena gogolia: hey that whole ‘good governance’ thing is SO boring…
Yeah, they literally could take any subject they want and do an apples-to-apples comparison, and I can’t think of anything where trumpov would come out looking better, with the exception of eyeball/clickbait value to the snooze media. By that metric, sure. Anything else and you’ve gotta be f’n kidding me.
mrmoshpotato
@zhena gogolia: The mainstream media
should be trampled by horsesis addicted to treating politics like a horse race.Jeffro
@WaterGirl: why not? We have insurrectionists in the House. Heck, we might have a couple who actually tried to give away their ‘safe location’ to the rioters.
germy
@WaterGirl:
Shine a light on them.
Looks like a job for a cat:
Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.)
How do these assholes still have jobs? And why the fuck does anybody believe them?
WaterGirl
@Jeffro: I know. I hope those people are identified as part of the commission process.
But actually on the membership rolls of the Oath Keepers? Those people are not just evil, but also stupid.
WaterGirl
@germy: They definitely need to publish the names of those Oath Keeper in the statehouses.
frosty
@WaterGirl: None from PA? I’m shocked.
germy
We just watched local news, and there’s more stories about PFOA in tap water.
Roger Moore
@Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.):
Because they’re doing exactly what the people paying them want.
germy
Geminid
Axios listed the nine House Republicans who voted to hold Bannon in contempt. Besides Cheney and Kinzinger, fellow Impeachers Meijar, Upton, Katko, Gonzalez and Herrera-Butler voted with the Democrats. Nancy Mace (SC) and Brian Fitzpatrick (PA) also voted to hold Bannon in contempt.
Axios also had a short article about the spat on the House floor between Greene, Raskin and Cheney. I had to laugh at the picture heading the article: Boebert, Gaetz and Green standing next to each other. The new Three Stooges.
O. Felix Culpa
@mrmoshpotato: In the past, I would have agreed with you. However, given that they are still doing bogus horse race framing at a time when our democracy is in grave peril, with many credible voices raising the alarm, I wonder if the problem goes beyond the media’s tried and true [sic] methods. It’s almost as if they want to obscure the truth
ETA: So either they are too criminally stupid to learn or they (and/or their paymasters) are venally vested in the downfall of our democracy. Or, of course, both.
WaterGirl
@frosty: Names, photographs and information about what they are doing today. I am so pleased to see them outed.
germy
Baud
Makes sense. Workers have leverage.
Captain C
@zhena gogolia: I suspect at least some of the media is either crying over the lower ratings or outright fapping over the memory.
germy
https://www.propublica.org/article/oath-keepers-in-the-state-house-how-a-militia-movement-took-root-in-the-republican-mainstream
Litlebritdifrnt
@germy: The Oathkeepers were formed during Obama’s administration because a bunch of white supremasist current and former law enforcement people claimed that Obama was going to take their guns. Their entire premise was that if Obama tried to take their guns or in other words put in place laws that they felt were against their “Oath” then they would rise up. They have stuck around like a nasty rash ever since. Strange that they never threaten to “rise” up when a republican is in power. I know this due to my extensive studying of the birther movement of which the Oathkeepers were part of. Just my two pennorth.
Geminid
@germy: I read that the reason prosecutors asked the judge for more time before sentencing Gaetz’s former pal Greenberg was that they had developed new lines of investigation and possible prosecution. It looks like they have.
JML
The Beltway media pretended to not like Trump and his administration and acted all offended at the rampant cronyism, corruption, and incompetence…but the reality is they loved it. It was super easy to write stories about all that junk and the WH leaked like a sieve. Writing stories about actual policy is work. Dealing with a competent administration requires actual commitment.
If there’s a less relevant group in more need of a total restart it’s the beltway media.
SpaceUnit
The horserace / sportsball model of mainstream political coverage isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. It evolved as a way for corporate media to tilt the playing field ( or racetrack, if you prefer that metaphor ) in favor of republicans. The emphasis is always on scorekeeping instead of actual issues. Zingers win debates. Chest-beating and hot air is equal to logic.
I had hoped that they’d learn something from the last five years. Some have but many have not. And yeah, a lot of them are drooling for that next big horserace and the ratings /money it will bring. God help us all.
Jeffro
@germy:
@Geminid:
great, but could they please HURRY UP
Baud
You guys are still watching cable news?
Omnes Omnibus
@Jeffro: No.
Geminid
@Jeffro: Gaetz’s dad has the money to hire the best criminal defense attorneys available. I want prosecutors to bring as many heavy charges as they can, and the charges have to stick.
So I can wait. I’ll have to; Greenberg’s prosecutors asked for a sentencing hearing next March.
schrodingers_cat
OT non-political news.
I finally got my first artist grade pencil set in the mail today!! I got it from Ebay about $20 less than Amazon! My brushes and watercolors are coming tomorrow. All the nice comments you guys left me when I shared my art work inspired me to go on a mini art shopping spree.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
?
eclare
@schrodingers_cat: How exciting!
Roger Moore
@JML:
The fundamental problem is that the beltway media covers politics rather than government.
sab
@schrodingers_cat: I liked your work a lot. Keep at it.
O. Felix Culpa
@schrodingers_cat: Nice. I loved your owl picture. I’m finding it helpful to have creative outlets to keep me (somewhat) sane during these parlous times.
Geminid
@SpaceUnit: At first glance, I thought Ms. Laurie had titled this post “the Horseradish Press.” But I looked again and realized that this wasn’t a midweek Garden thread.
O. Felix Culpa
@Geminid: Objection! Insult to horseradishes, who serve a useful and biting purpose. :)
topclimber
@schrodingers_cat: America needs your art and appreciates your spending money on it.
Geminid
@SpaceUnit: At first glance, I thought Ms. Laurie had titled this post “the Horseradish Press.” But I looked again and realized that this wasn’t a midweek Garden thread.
VeniceRiley
Broken media is still broken. Broder was on CNN this AM spouting the same bullshit.
geg6
OT, but I hope Cole has gotten himself and the menagerie into the basement. My local tv news tells me a tornado is heading to Bethany, WV. Be safe, Cole!
That’s just south of me and there is another just north in Butler, PA. If any Juicers live near there, you be safe, too!
ian
@germy: from that link
Makes me think how much better this incident would have gon
edit: i am being snarky
Baud
@VeniceRiley:
He came back from the dead to criticize Biden?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@VeniceRiley:
?? Which one?
schrodingers_cat
@eclare: I am excited! I love stationery, pens, pencils, fountain pens etc. This is like my catnip.
schrodingers_cat
@sab: Thanks so much. My Twitter header is a part of the picture I had colored back in April with Crayolas and Pilot G2 pens that I already had!
schrodingers_cat
@O. Felix Culpa: Thanks! Looking at all the colors just makes me happy.
phdesmond
@schrodingers_cat:
good for you. hope to see watercolors of yours here.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@VeniceRiley:
Considering Broder has been died for 10 years that must been an expensive long distance call
Kay
OMG, this has to be the best voter fraud fraudster ever:
Baud
@Kay:
I wonder who he had his dead wife vote for.
Another Scott
Good for the House. Standing up for their institutional responsibilities and obligations is important.
Good speeches by Biden and Harris today. The struggle is never over, but progress is happening and much more is possible.
In other news, in Guantanamo, … AlJazeera:
Horrible.
It’s long past time that the place was closed. It’s good that the process for doing so is continuing.
Get it done, Joe!!
Cheers,
Scott.
Roger Moore
@Kay:
Every accusation is a confession.
Kay
@Baud:
I wanted to pull it up but I can’t reach the criminal docket in the “Las Vegas Justice Court” although they have a search – hmmm.
* the “Las Vegas Justice Court” sounds fake, but is not.
Baud
@Kay:
“I am shocked, shocked to find that voter fraud is going on in here.”
SpaceUnit
@Geminid:
Ha. It might still leave a bitter taste in your mouth.
CaseyL
@schrodingers_cat: That’s great! Enjoy the heck out of your new art supplies, and don’t forget to share :)
Soprano2
@zhena gogolia: All I see on FB is griping about high gas prices and shortages. No, people cannot remember how bad it was this time last year. The Trumpies think everything was wonderful this time last year.
MagdaInBlack
@schrodingers_cat: Isn’t it fun? I have a wish list of art supplies on Amazon. I’m slowly ticking them off ?
Betty
@Roger Moore: Well said! Government is boring to them.
satby
Doing a drive by posting for the gardeners who liked hardy hibiscus. Brecks has them on sale for $12 less than the sale price I paid only two weeks ago. The ones I ordered then arrived today, and they’re very large gallon size root balls.
rikyrah
46 is doing a Town hall on CNN right now
rikyrah
@schrodingers_cat: ??????????
MagdaInBlack
So I’m listening to Matt Gaetz on Bannons “War Room” and Gaetz just let loose that Bannons old producer now produces Gaetz pod cast, AND some of Gaetz congressional staff are old Bannon employees………isn’t that interesting.
Gosh, no wonder Gaetz is so opposed to Bannon testifying.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us
@Soprano2: Every Trump supporter was conversation, the minute Biden took office, that everything including the economy immediately went to shit. So Fox News keeps telling everyone the economy has gone to shit. All the other media explore the theme because”people are expressing concern.” Facts don’t matter at all – they can’t see the silver lining or blue sky, just the few clouds, which is all they can talk about.
WaterGirl
@satby: ooh, pretty!
Do you still want the seeds I collected for you?
zhena gogolia
@VeniceRiley: Broder????
Matt McIrvin
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us: Remember that when *Trump* took office, the economy instantly healed. It wasn’t as if the numbers changed much from the end of Obama’s term. It was that all of Trump’s supporters went overnight from believing the numbers were fake to being told to believe they were real. Trump explicitly said this in his rallies! “We used to say those numbers were fake but now we believe they’re real, right?” Statements like that about what the new version of reality was
I do not think the majority of people even know what exactly they’re talking about when they say “the economy” is good or bad. Sometimes it’s a synonym for “the deficit”. Sometimes it’s unemployment, sometimes it’s gasoline prices. Mostly it’s their impression from headlines of whether “the economy” is doing well.
Sure Lurkalot
@schrodingers_cat: How wonderful. It’s always fun to get new tools for hobbies and craftwork. Look forward to seeing your work.
Roger Moore
@Betty:
I don’t think it’s that government is boring to them. They see government, or at least government without them in charge, as the enemy. It all gets back to the same thing: they don’t want the government to help Those People. Most of them would be perfectly happy with socialism, as long as it could be made Whites-Only. But as long as the government is required to help Those People just as much as it helps People Like Us, they’re going to fight it tooth and nail. The more we enshrine government needing to help everyone as a principle, the more they hate it and fight to shrink it. Only the parts that can still be used to hurt other people- mostly the military and police- will be allowed to continue.
WaterGirl
@Sure Lurkalot: I believe those are called toys. :-) It’s always fun to get new toys.
Jeffro
@Omnes Omnibus: waaaaaaahhhh
Jeffro
@Soprano2: my mom is like this…she acts like her grocery bill doubled then doubled again in the past few months.
Um, mom, I hate to tell you, but it didn’t, and this ain’t the 70s.
Jeffro
@Matt McIrvin: it’s directly related to “is my guy in the White House”?
If so, everything’s great; if not, everything sucks.
My stepmom tried to tell me in 2017 that trumpov had “really turned around our lousy Obama economy”. No amount of stats, news articles, etc, would convince her that the mango menace had inherited a nice steady recovery from President Obama.
prostratedragon
@Kay: My, my, I’ve had to go listen to some medieval wailing and drumbeating after that. (I’d left off earlier at Track 14.)
Soprano2
@Jeffro: I remember seeing a graph showing that Trump supporters thought the economy got better almost immediately after Trump was elected but before he took office! It was crazy. To them the act of him being elected made things better; he didn’t have to actually do anything.
rikyrah
@JML:
They resent the competence of 46
Matt McIrvin
@Soprano2: There was a stock-market rally that happened at that moment, I assume because stock traders are primarily Republicans and when they’re happy it does have effects.