Hey California peeps, you have one job. Vote no and get your ballot in.
Make sure your California Recall ballot is in the mail. If not, vote in person.
Make sure every CA friend, relative and acquaintance you know has voted. Every single one.
Please spread the word: At this point, if you’re in California and haven’t mailed in your recall ballot yet, please have it postmarked and mailed by 9/14, or better yet, use a ballot drop box to ensure your vote is counted. VOTE NO.
RT to spread the word.
— Really American ?? (@ReallyAmerican1) September 12, 2021
This thread from August has good information if you want to know what to do with question 2.
Open thread for the rest of us. And for CA peeps with bragging rights because they have already voted.
dmsilev
Your “this thread from August” doesn’t have a link.
At this point, the “question 2 question” is probably moot; Larry Elder is almost definitely going to get a plurality of votes on #2. Which should be all possible incentive to fill out a No-on-1 ballot and get it in a drop-box or down to a voting center some time within the next 24 or so hours.
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: I had already fixed the link issue before I saw your comment. But I wasn’t quick enough!
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: There are so many reasons why we very much need the recall to fail.
mrmoshpotato
Dropboxes also an option.
Via Karoli
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: Thank you, I added that tweet up top.
Scout211
Our votes here in this household were in and “accepted” weeks ago.
POTUS is here in California today, to survey the fires and for the recall. Good for him.
Elder has already set up a “voter fraud” website
for witnesses to report evidence of voter fraudfor whining about his loss and setting the stage for another Big Lie. Ugh.Oh, and iPhone users, update your phone. There’s another emergency security issue.
dmsilev
@mrmoshpotato: Drop-boxes are good. County registrar websites will have a map of where they are; here, it’s outside City Hall and most of the library branches, and I think a few additional places as well.
Mary G
I got an email and a text that my ballot had been received and counted and I still checked online with the registrar of voters to make sure. He’s got this. Joe will be with him at a rally in Long Beach at 7 pm our time.
Winston
Tracfone is telling me my LG Sunset phone is on its way to be obsolete in the near future. Any suggestions on what I should get to replace it?
Chetan Murthy
For those who don’t know this already: https://california.ballottrax.net/voter/dashboard
I just checked, and my ballot was received and counted.
Winston
I would vote no on California recall, but I don’t live there, but everyone I know that does is voting no.
WaterGirl
@Scout211:
What’s that about?
Ivan X
Oh, I made sure my ballot was in before I left for NYC for six weeks, and I (really) said, when I dropped it in the ballot drop box slot the day before I departed, “Fuck you, Republicans.”
WaterGirl
@Chetan Murthy: Post up top updated with your ballot tracking link. Thank you.
Winston
@WaterGirl: So that’s a NO for Iphone?
WaterGirl
@Winston: No, that is not a ‘no’. I would most definitely recommend getting an iPhone.
Mike in Pasadena
The “anti-vaxer is dead” thread is dead so I’m posting this here: sorryantivaxxer.com
This website lists known antivaxers who are sick or dead of Covid. The victims listed were known anti-vax from their FB posts or were conservative/religious radio hosts screaming against vaccination.
Scout211
@WaterGirl:
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/apple-urges-security-update-new-imessage-flaw-disclosed-rcna1995
Mike in Pasadena
On topic: voted “no” in person while on my morning walk today. I have no idea what my signature at time of registration thirty years ago looks like, so I vote in person.
AliceBlue
Are ballots being counted as they come in or are they all counted on election day?
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: Beans of a cool variety.
Craigie
4 family members, 4 no votes. All done and confirmed received
WaterGirl
@Scout211: oh! downloading the update now…
WaterGirl
@AliceBlue: They seem to know that the awful Elder guy is the runaway winner on Question 2, so unless they are polling for that info, maybe they are counting?
WaterGirl
Oh, and more news of the good variety! asiangrrl’s brother:
Flanders Other Neighbor
Done and confirmed. We walked the dog to the ballot drop-off box last week and said f-you republicans.
This morning walking said dog, we saw a very healthy coyote no doubt fattened up on cats if the stupid nextdoor conversations are to be believed. Izzi is a husky and has a thing for killing varmints, but this one would have stood a chance.
Chetan Murthy
@AliceBlue: FWIW, when I used the “track my vote” link, the email and voicemail I received told me
I’m not going to say that I 100% believe that it’s already been counted, b/c I don’t actually know what the procedures are, and cannot find a description of them anywhere on the web.
Winston
@WaterGirl: All you need to know about Elder. He wants to award slave owners reparations for the loss of their slaves. He is a black man. A ringer. He is campaigning for Newsome
.
AliceBlue
@WaterGirl: @Chetan Murthy: Thanks!
JaneE
Got my ballot. Voted NO. Returned via drop box the next day. Got my ballot track text about 3 days later saying my ballot had been received and counted. Sigh of relief. I just hope that enough of the rest of us vote no also. FWIW I wrote in Eleni Kounalakis if the recall passes. She is the current Lt. Gov. for those who don’t know the state.
schrodingers_cat
Question for Juicers with MAGA relatives/friends.
How do you keep that from affecting your relationships? Can you get past it or not
ETA: I find it increasingly difficult to look past the enabling of Modi cult.
Winston
@schrodingers_cat: No.
Sure Lurkalot
Thanks for the IPhone warning and the PSA to vote NO on the recall. All my California relatives have moved to Texas so they are of no help and can’t be helped about their shitty choices.
trollhattan
Joe!
Instead of a grifter, why not elect a legislator to, you know, legislate?
Chetan Murthy
@schrodingers_cat: For friends? Hard no: “I have no white supremacist, racist, fascist, or misogynist friends; goodbye”.
For family, I don’t know, b/c haven’t had to face it. But whatever you do, be kind to yourself and your *immediate* family. If that means not cutting off an otherwise-treasured aunt whose absence would be missed at every family meeting then don’t cut her off. If it means never inviting over the grumpy racist uncle who ruins thanksgiving every year and that’s the only time you see him, then do that.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl: How do you do that? I almost never turn the thing on.
trollhattan
@schrodingers_cat: Luckily, the winger inlaws all live in the Ozarks and Ohio. Happy to keep thing that way.
Another Scott
@Winston: Wow, that’s an oldie!
If you’re looking to save money, you could see if anything looks reasonable on Swappa.com for your budget (I got a “mint” Samsung Galaxy S20+ there from a well-rated vendor and it’s been fine).
In general:
Otherwise, it will depend on your budget. I hope this helps a little.
Cheers,
Scott.
Dan B
@Winston: I like my Samsung Galaxy S20 FE. It’s much less pricey than the similar latest hottest model.
The phone has an 11 megapixel camera that is half the deluxe version but takes excellent pictures. Pixel count is not everything.
5G through T Mobile is truly awful so we disconnected it to 3G which gave it 4G which works fine
We do not like I Phone as a phone. We have to guess what people are saying. Voice transmission seems terrible.
schrodingers_cat
@Dan B: Did you ever get my email?
Scout211
@AliceBlue:
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/official-canvass
Ksmiami
@Flanders Other Neighbor: how big is your husky? My guy is 72 pounds (Canadian parents) and fearsome and once a coyote ran into us and the coyote sped away!
schrodingers_cat
@Chetan Murthy: For family in India. Cousins, aunts etc that I see once every few years. And am in touch with via Whatsapp and calls.
NotMax
@schrodingers_cat
With due deference to Oscar Jaffe.
;)
Jackie
@Mike in Pasadena: @Mike in Pasadena: In WA, VBM signatures are matched with your DL renewal signature. It’s probably the same in CA.
Chetan Murthy
@schrodingers_cat:
I had a dear friend who was a RWNJ. Before 2016, since 2000, I made a rule that we never discuss politics, b/c his views were so abhorrent. [yeah, maybe I should have dumped him long before, but that’s how much he meant to me, seriously] That might help. Esp. if, since it’s WhatsApp, you can always just disconnect the call when they veer into politics.
Maybe that won’t be enough to make you feel comfortable. Again, I’m sure not saying you shouldn’t dump them: after all, I dumped this guy after 2016.
Another Scott
@NotMax: rofl.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Flanders Other Neighbor
@Ksmiami: 60lbs maybe? She’ll roughhouse with other dogs and I never worry about her hurting people. Just smaller non-dogs, watch out. Nothing but muscle and fur. Lots and lots of fur.
Mary G
@trollhattan: Good on ya, POTUS!
Steeplejack (phone)
@JaneE:
Kounalakis vote wasted. She didn’t register to be a write-in candidate.
CaseyL
If the GOP is going to cry “rigged!” with every election they lose, they’ll become The Crank Who Won’t Shut Up, which will hopefully become sufficiently cringeworthy to make them shed all voters except for their true believers. I don’t ask the alienated ones to vote for Democrats; just don’t vote at all, mkay?
Years ago, while canvassing my precinct, one woman said she never votes. She sounded neither proud nor ashamed: it was merely fact, like the color of her hair. I nearly bit a hole in my tongue, because there’s no point discussing the issue with someone that apathetic, but I’ve never been able to figure such people out. Politics impacts our lives every day, all the time, in ways large and small. I’ve just never understood why someone would devote not a single thought or action to participating, ever.
Roger Moore
@AliceBlue:
If I understand correctly, the ballots can be verified before election day, but they aren’t counted until after the close of polls on election day.
Persistent Illusion
@Winston:Winston, I have and enjoy a Nord 1+. Similar to Samsung products, less expensive. Perfectly fine phone.
Steeplejack (phone)
@trollhattan:
Did Biden do any ceremonial raking of the forest? If not—fail!
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Well, that puts the kibosh on Cuomo, then.
:)
Roger Moore
@WaterGirl:
And now there’s another update. The good news continues:
debbie
@schrodingers_cat:
I haven’t spoken to any of them since November 2016. Does that help? ?
Winston
@Another Scott: Thanks. That helps a lot. I’m going to make a decision in the next few days. Probably 5G. I hope the format lasts more than three years and probably the best bet. Thanks again for your input.
zhena gogolia
@Roger Moore: Wow. Amazing.
schrodingers_cat
@CaseyL: When I was out registering voters in 2018 I met a Russian immigrant who didn’t want to register to vote because she didn’t want her name to be on a list that the government had.
Winston
@Dan B: Thanks. Voice is the only thing that a phone is important to me on a phone for what it is for for Christ sakes. Old school.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Watching Ron De Santis today, I’ve been feeling almost optimistic today that maybe, just maybe, they’re finally going too far in their buffoonery. Especially since I don’t think The Beast is going to let anyone else run in ’24. Or at the very least he’ll make them wear trump masks on the campaign trail. “I told Ron, I like Ron, but why did Ron take his mask off? I don’t know. You should all ask him…”
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: Tap the settings icon on your phone. Look for the word “General” and if there is an update, you will see the number 1 in red. If you click on General, it will tell you have an update, and the way to start the update will be obvious.
dopey-o
@CaseyL: regarding your friend who is too good to vote…
“The price good men pay for apathy to politics is to be ruled by evil men.” Plato.
WaterGirl
@Roger Moore: That’s great news! I swear he posts an update whenever I share the latest that’s up. Maybe if I posted them more often, he would update more often. :-)
Benw
@schrodingers_cat: my best friend from college is very likely a MAGA but not definitely confirmed (there have been a lot of hints, but he won’t spit it out). It’s a long story, but our bonding over being mutually outcast dorks saved my life after freshman year. We still talk about our beloved music (EVH dying hit us hard) but all other topics are mutually undiscussed. I guess if he fully unloaded being MAGA, I’d have to get out, but since he doesn’t, I’m glad I still have my friend.
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Peak wingnut? :-)
James E Powell
@Steeplejack (phone):
I’m hoping we don’t end up regretting not putting Bill in Glendale on the ballot for Question 2.
Scamp Dog
@Winston: I can support those reparations, as long as we also deduct from those payments compensation to the descendants of the slaves they held for theft of their labor. I mean, fair’s fair, right? And if the deduction is bigger, well I’m sure they’ve been investing their gains wisely and will have cash on hand to make things right, of course?
CaseyL
@schrodingers_cat: That sort of thing I can understand and sympathize with – people who come from horrible situations that conditioned them to distrust anyone with authority. But the woman I’m talking about was not that.
Vbreakwater
CA resident here, voted no on recall and checked the box for Angelyne the Billboard Queen (she of the pink everything including her corvette) to spite Elder.
Ruckus
Voted and ballot has been in for some time.
I’m just hoping that this doesn’t pass, because of all the crappy republican governors we’ve had in my lifetime – and there have be a few – Larry would be by far and I mean at least from here to the moon far, the worst ever. And that’s bad.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@WaterGirl: at least enough for us to hold the House and the Senate, maybe, I hope, could be…..
raven
@CaseyL: There are plenty of people who think it’s all bullshit.
schrodingers_cat
@Steeplejack (phone): Thanks for your appreciative and kind comments about my artistic attempts. I read them after the thread was long dead.
Chetan Murthy
I have a friend who doesn’t want to learn all about the news. In his defense
But what I say to him (when, for instance, he complains about how his mgmt oppresses him) is that “you might not be interested in current events, but currents is most definitely interested in you.” He votes, and as I said, he votes correctly. So that’s enough. But really, I can’t understand his lack of interest in the trends that are *literally* destroying his job category. As in: I can easily see in <10yr that he’ll be out of a job. And he definitely needs to have a job for 20yr.
Dan B
@Winston: Ww have lots of friends with iPhones. They are very reluctant to call – prefer DM and sometimes email. I thought it was the new thing but remembered having to listen very carefully in a quiet location to understand them. It may have improved a lot but they’ll have to call for me to know. My Galaxy S20 FE seems to have a massive amount of storage. I’ve got hundreds of photos and there are no hiccups. Managed to photograph Venus when we were at the ocean over Labor Day. Not a great pic because it wants to turn everything into an average amount of light but the processing tools are quite good and intuitive.
schrodingers_cat
@Winston: Moto G is pretty good too. I had one before my current Samsung Galaxy phone.
Scamp Dog
@Roger Moore: the news just keeps getting better, I love it! I had feared for the worst a few days ago.
Chetan Murthy
@Dan B: From a quick Google search, your phone has an SD card slot. So …. effectively infinite storage, eh? My Moto G6 has a 128G SD card in it: whenever I buy a new phone (damn infrequently, b/c I’m cheeeep) I buy whatever the cheapest Gig/$ SD card is. I’m guessing by the next time I buy a phone, it’ll be either 256G or 512G. though by then, I might not be bothering with that, and just buying the cheapest SD card with >= 128G storage. That’s a ton, after all.
MisterForkbeard
@Benw: To some extent, I view MAGAness similar to wearing pants over your wang. If you keep it covered and don’t bug people with it, I can deal with you and you’re potentially a person who’s met the minimum standard for decency.
If you start waving it around everywhere, you get dropped pretty quickly.
TaMara (HFG)
@Roger Moore: This is amazing news and I hope part of her rehab is coming back here to practice her pithy comments. <3
CaseyL
@schrodingers_cat: Huh, I made the same transition, and possibly for the same reason. My beloved Moto e5 Play gave up the ghost, the refurbished same model replacement crapped out after less than a day, and the least expensive good phone available to replace it was the Samsung A20. ($110 versus $200 for a new Moto.)
The Samsung is fine. There are a few things I don’t like about it, but it’s a perfectly good phone.
Argiope
@schrodingers_cat: It’s definitely a struggle. My dad and stepmom are RWNJs and also funny, personable, kind and good company as long as conversation doesn’t stray into the multiple things we disagree about. Interestingly they aren’t fans of forced birth, and aren’t interpersonally racist—-but TFG’s racism wasn’t a deal-breaker, so there you have it. My dad claims never to have heard the infamous p*ssy tape during the 2016 election but was definitely made aware (by me) prior to 2020 and voted for Mango Mussolini again. There have been letters to try to communicate how wrong we each are back and forth; they never take. He’s impervious to fact where COVID is concerned and it’s still very possible he’s going to go out that way. Have I mentioned I’m a clinician? I do a lot of serenity prayer even though I’m agnostic. My husband struggles even more than I do—he has nearly 25 years of history with his in-laws but they are on his last nerve and sometimes jumping up and down on it. So does it interfere? Hell yes. Do I feel like I can cut loose my own aging parent? Not yet, though I’ve come close several times.
Chetan Murthy
@Argiope: I have a friend who, upon being told by his mother that she’d voted for TFG, told her that she’d never see her grandchildren if she pulled that shit again.
UncleEbeneezer
Ballot received/confirmed. Sent postcards and have posted numerous reminders in various FB groups. We saw an Obama ad on SlingTv the last couple days. Makes me feel good. CA Dem party is taking this VERY seriously which is scary but good.
Ruckus
@Scout211:
Up loading phone and computer right now.
CaseyL
@Roger Moore:
The synesthesia aspect is fascinating; that’s a phenomenon I wouldn’t mind experiencing, just once and not permanently (and, no, I do not wish to have a stroke in order to do so!). Sounds with their own scent, letters that manifest colors – just amazing.
I’m glad for Minna’s sake she also finds it interesting – and also, for her sake, hope it’s temporary. Are the words relevant to what they appear beside, or entirely random?
Argiope
@Chetan Murthy: in our family the grandkids are old enough to make up their own minds, and boy has Grandpa come down several pegs in terms of their respect for him. That’s maybe the saddest part. I’m sure he thinks they are just busy but the truth is they are disgusted. My sister and I are trying to model ethical interactions and kindness but we wonder often if we are even modeling the right things. I don’t insist on much contact anymore from mine. She’s old enough (18) to get that the situation is hard for me.
William D
Dropped off three ballots (me, spouse, son) Saturday at the (very nice) Carlsbad Public Library. Two poll workers at the entrance with a big blue box.
Checked the ballot tracker today; I was still only on step two (step two being my ballot was mailed to me). But I did drop it off on the weekend, so…
Three votes against recall. On question two, our three votes split between Democrat, Republican, and Green.
The local talk radio was hyping a story on KTLA about voters trying to vote at polling stations only to be told they had already voted. Heard from angry voters who had to fill out provisional ballots, and dark insinuations about Democrat cheating blah blah blah. Found the story on KTLA’s website, which was updated to include the information that this apparently was an equipment glitch and that the provisional ballots were going to ensure that everyone’s vote would eventually get counted. I believe that, but I get the feeling that talk radio will continue to milk the story without this update.
laura
I’m feeling cautiously optimistic in the last hours before the votes start getting counted. Every single friend family and loved one has voted oh hell no on this nonsense and only 2 siblings in law felt the need to vote for one of the 300 or so candidates as a precautionary measure. Very happy to have had the reassuring presence of my Governor and my President just up the road a piece this afternoon.
Another Scott
… some are more equal than others. ArsTechnica:
I’m shocked, shocked.
Cheers,
Scott.
Benw
@MisterForkbeard: that’s a great analogy!
Redshift
@Winston: My mom had a similar thing recently with her Alcatel TracFone flip phone. She wasn’t interested in anything but phone calls, so we got her the new Alcatel (Flip 2, I think.) If you want to stay with not having to charge it every day, that might be worth a look.
Dan B
@Chetan Murthy: The waterproof feature, powerful processor, high quality phone, and great – but not perfect – camera were selling points. Maybe 5G will work here, Southeast Seattle, in the future. I’ve got 40 tabs open and there is zero lag. It let’s me be really lazy about clearing them out. That’s bern good for saving info from sites that will be valuable when delayed projects come back. We dropped cable because it was $100 some months and $200 others. We can stream high definition video from the phone to our 55″ TV. The quality is amazing. It’s nice saving the $150 monthly fee for cable.
frosty
@schrodingers_cat: I am fortunate not to have any close MAGA friends or relatives. I don’t know what I would do otherwise. Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is about the best I can suggest. Otherwise, use OzarkHillbillie’s advice from this morning and cut the conversation ASAP.
This isn’t much help, I guess.
Chetan Murthy
@Dan B: Whoa, you must have a pretty sweet monthly plan. I’m on Google Fi, $10/GB, but the overall monthly bill is rarely more than $35, all-in. And being able to use my laptop to make/receive calls really makes that a winner.
Benw
@Benw: although I worry that it works because I’m white and male, and if I were BIPOC or LGBTQ I’d be a lot less forgiving and stop humoring my potentially MAGA friend.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl: Thanks. I’ll probably fail to do be able to do it.
Tehanu
@Ivan X:
Ha, that’s nothing. I say that every morning as soon as I wake up!
And slightly more seriously, I got the notification from BallotTrax that my ballot got counted. Now just keeping my fingers crossed.
Chetan Murthy
@Benw: I don’t think you should change, if only b/c *somebody* has to reach out to these bastards, on the off chance that one is redeemable. But …. yeah, when it wasn’t so obviously the case that these RWNJs were gunning for me and my kind (and, sure, for all POC), I was more able to ignore their moral iniquity. But after 2016, that was impossible: their votes were to put me and my kind in camps, maybe worse. So out they went. No way I could have stood knowing I was talking with somebody who voted that way. No way: I’d have wanted to scream at them every second. Every. Second.
Dan B
@Chetan Murthy: Our options for cable here were two: Verizon or Century Link. Maybe there are more now but the phone does everything we need and one day I’ll use it for inking the computers to the web. Having to pay extra for anti-virus is a budget issue since I’d rather buy the latest breathtaking LED’s, waterplants, etc.
frosty
@Another Scott: I have a gen1 iPhone SE which I like because it fits in the watch pocket of my Levi’s. It’s on the cusp on not being supported with iOS updates. Apple has a 12mini that unfortunately is a couple millimeters too wide. Dunno what I’m going to do when this one is dead dead deadski.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@CaseyL: In Cal GOP is at that crazyification rock bottom level in California. The issue isn’t the GOP turn out, it’s the Dem turn out since like 60% are against the recall.
And I voted No for the recall for the record.
The funny thing about how suit happy the Republicans have gotton, even if they win they will likely sue the nuts out of each other over which of them really won.
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
I’ll argue with you a bit, that Android, at least in my experience, updates phones for a while real well. But then, in my personal experience they stop updating slightly older phones and shortly thereafter they stop working. Once again that’s my experience and it’s a couple years old but that is what happened to my Android phone. I replaced it with an iPhone and it not only works better but if past history with iPhone owners I know is still the norm they still work fine long after you can’t update. Now maybe things like this security update wouldn’t make it to your phone if it’s too old but I know people with 6 yr old iPhones that still work fine.
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I hope so, too.
Another Scott
@frosty: My J had an iPhone SE that she loved but it got wet in the rain one too many times and stopped working reliably. I got her an iPhone XS a few years ago after she kept saying she didn’t want a big phone, but she’s used to it now. I kept waiting for an SE 2 but it never appeared, and the XS seemed to be about the smallest reasonably current iPhone. She doesn’t put it in her pockets.
I carry my S20+ in my shirt pocket (and got t-shirts with pockets for casual days just to carry it). I briefly thought about getting the smaller S20, but someone pointed out that it’s quite a bit narrower (and narrower than my previous LG V30) so that can be a consideration – depending on how you use it. The smaller form factor does have disadvantages. I’m not sure if even she would want to go back to something smaller now.
Cheers,
Scott.
CaseyL
@Dan B: T-Mobile just started offering an internet service, and SFAIK you don’t have to have a phone plan with them to get it. I signed up and was thrilled to bounce Comcast/Xfinity out of my house and life. It’s $60/month, period, no excise fees, hidden fees or taxes, and I think you can connect up to 5 (?) devices to it.
Comcast, by contrast, was $83/month, and that was after a sweet sales rep let me sign up for one of those “new customer only” plans even though I’d been with Comcast for years and years. The plan I had previously was costing me $125/month, with only minimal cable.)
I’m on a laptop, though my two phones (still on MetroPCS, which T-Mobile acquired but hasn’t yet engulfed) are synced to it, so I get internet on them from my home modem when I am home.
Dan B
@Benw: As a Gold Standard LGBTQ with 85% of neighbors BIPOC the MAGA’s are treated as you ‘hinted’. There’s just something about people who would scream at you* that you should be happy you have any rights.
There’s the dread that the cruelty we lived through during AIDS and the horrors visited upon Trans people today will spill over into our friends and to us. And the MAGA’s will do nothing or join in.
Nothing like a good existential dread to focus the mind, no matter how distant or unlikely it might be. The situation in Afghanistan, China, Russia, Hungary, Turkey, and perhaps soon Brazil magnifies that dread. Situations can change quickly.
*This happened to us.
Chetan Murthy
@Ruckus: This article ( https://medium.com/matter/shitphone-a-love-story-a44e66434807 ) about “shitphones” might explain your experience. I have a sister who worked on mobile apps on both iOS and Android, and she confirmed the article.
Chetan Murthy
@Ruckus: I should have added: she also confirms that older model iPhones suffer from “getting bricked” by Apple updates, too. Apple, the Android vendors, and app vendors, just don’t test on older phones, for obvious reasons.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: Let us know if you have trouble with the update. I’m sure we can walk you though it.
Dan B
@CaseyL: Good to hear! I wonder if it would work for us. Is it cable or other? The 5G here is horrifyingly awful so if that’s the basis it would be useless for us.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I should not be as amused by these tweets as I am.
Another Scott
@Ruckus: Sorry I wasn’t clear. Apple is very, very good about updating their phones.
LG was very bad about updating their phones. I had several over the years. I always liked them, but one usually got one major update, and maybe 2-3 security updates, and that’s it. Essential was faster than even Google about updating the PH-1, but there was something weird in the hardware for many people (including me) where it would lose signal and not be able to reconnect – a fatal flaw for a phone. And the company went belly up. Samsung has been very, very good about updating my S20+.
There are half-a-dozen other Android phone vendors in the US – I don’t know a lot about them, but my impression is that for most of them it’s rare to get OS updates for more than a year or so. It’s a problem unless you want the latest and greatest every 6-12 months.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Benw
@Chetan Murthy: yeah, so how can I still be friends with someone that will vote to put you in camps just because our mutual love of Ronnie James Dio and Bon Jovi meant that I finally found a friend? It’s not OK!!
Dan B
@Chetan Murthy: What you said.
Camps!? Not likely but not impossible if the GQP get back in. They’ll be ready for
revengemaking America great for straight white Christianists.rikyrah
Vote NO!!!!!!!
Chetan Murthy
@Benw: Again, I’m not saying I could do this: my unbounded anger would spill over, daily. Daily. But I’m not a fool, and I recognize that *some* of these MAGAts are redeemable. And. A. Vote. Is. A. Vote. So, if by remaining connected to some of these people, you can redeem them, that’s a win, y’know.
I’m not going to find it in my heart to excuse those people’s iniquity. But I’m practical enough to know that a good person, who can stand to interact with them, might do good works. And so I would applaud such a person, for being able to do a thing that I am incapable of.
gwangung
@Dan B: Well, Asian and Latin folks think, “it’s happened before, it can happen again.”
frosty
@Another Scott: The SE2 appeared a little while ago but it’s bigger than the SE. Like I said, I dunno what I’ll do. I’ll probably just put it it in a back pocket of my jeans and make butt dials like everyone else does. Until it breaks when I sit on it.
The watch pocket was perfect for my little LG flip phone and the Motorola that replaced it. I’m pissed that everyone thinks we want a mini-tablet for a phone.
Chetan Murthy
@gwangung: I remember enough about his history that he’s told about, that I’m quite confident @Dan B: takes all of this quite, quite seriously.
Benw
@Dan B: I see you, I’m sorry it happened to you
Chetan Murthy
@frosty: By “watch pocket” you mean the teeny pocket-inside-a-pocket on the right side, yes? Why not just carry your phone in the big pocket itself? Just curious.
Benw
@Chetan Murthy: that’s an incredibly kind view. Thank you
tallred
I put my ballot in the mail the morning after I got it.
We have a voting site on campus. Fall Quarter doesn’t start until 9/23, and the students don’t move into the residence halls until this weekend, but I saw close to a hundred “I Voted” stickers as I passed our student union on three passes by there today.
Dan B
@Benw: We no longer see them. They were angry that inferior people were not honoring their benevolent wisdom and superiority. Criticism is the true horror, apparently. It must be worse than poverty, abandonment, and death. I just said we were feeling uneasy about the election of TFG and the bomb went off.
sacrablue
@Mike in Pasadena: The state uses several sources to verify your signature. If you signed a tax return or anything else dealing with the state, they will use that as well. The state realizes that people’s signatures change over time.
frosty
@Chetan Murthy: Too lumpy there, and I carry other stuff in that pocket. I’m weird, what can I say?
The SE is right on the borderline of fitting, to be honest. It’s a little too tall.
Chetan Murthy
@Dan B:
[I know we probably discussed this at the start of TFG’s reign of error] It’s uncanny, isn’t it, how any expression of pushback to their avatar, or disapproval of their vote, brings out a *massive* wave of butthurt and anger. Telling, really: they know what they did was wrong, and they want to feel that it’s right more than anything. But they know it isn’t, and when we remind them of it, the butthurt and anger comes out like a geyser.
JaneE
@Steeplejack (phone): IMO any vote on the second question was wasted. It was a protest only. I just didn’t want to be one of those people who write in Mickey Mouse.
Chetan Murthy
@frosty: No, not weird. I have evolved a …. distribution of objects, specifically to support putting the phone in one side (plus earbuds) and everything else in the other side. I tend to carry a very small wallet (on purpose) and only two keys, specifically to reduce the bumps & lumps. Maybe you could put your keys in the watch pocket?
Dan B
@Chetan Murthy: We have family and friends that were in the camps because they were Japanese. We talk about their time there. Not everyone they know will listen.
I had LGBTQ friends who were subjected to primitive electroshock therapy and torturous conversion “therapy”. Most of them were permanently damaged. It heightens the feeling of the need to be vigilant against the cruel instincts of humanity.
Almost Retired
Just got home from phone banking on the recall, and haven’t read the thread above. But I am confident this is going to have a happy ending (in the fairy tale sense and not in the sketchy massage parlor sense). Newsom’s margin of victory will be saved by universal mail voting (and, of course, math since Democrats outnumber Republicans by 2 to 1). But I expect the Republicans will come after universal mail voting with a vengeance. Fasten your seat belts, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.
Chetan Murthy
@JaneE: I selected that Dem guy Paffrath (?): my rationale was “harm reduction”. Sure, I want the recall to fail, but if the worst came, I wouldn’t have wanted to give a vote to Elder. So I chose the second vote purely to reduce harm.
Benw
@Dan B: understood.
WaterGirl
@Almost Retired: I laughed out loud, and then your prediction of the bumpy ride put a stop to that! Glad you are confident about the win on the recall. That gives me hope.
frosty
@Chetan Murthy:
LOL no. Keys have been in the left pocket since I was 20 or so, loose change in the right. Wallet back right, nothing in particular back left. I guess that will be the TOO LARGE phone.
(waves to pickpockets!)
Omnes Omnibus
@frosty: No, you fool. Keys and penknife go in the front right pocket. Loose change used to go in the front left*, but my phone goes there now. Wallet is back left.
*I seldom have loose change these days.
Felanius Kootea
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I just saw the DougJ/pitchbot tweet. Almost died laughing.
WaterGirl@Top
We already voted no on the recall and got notification that our ballots were received a few weeks ago. I like the mail ballot return rate thus far.
JohnC
@Another Scott: The iPhone 12 Mini is basically the new SE (only a few millimeters larger case, but much larger screen because edge-to-edge/no home button). My partner was resolute against a “big phone” and kept and kept his old SE – he loves his 12 Mini. If you liked the old SE I think you’ll be pleased.
Rick Taylor
I’m a procrastinator, so I made a point of sending in the ballot at my earliest opportunity. I received a text confirming it had been counted over two weeks ago. I voted No on the recall and Kevin Faulconer on the second part. I doubt my vote on the second part will make any difference.
something fabulous
Would have been SO embarrassing to miss it after all the hub-bub!! Dropped in voting box & taking self to fancy dinner to congratulate. I *may* be slightly over-excited: as I was walking away from the drop box two young women were depositing theirs. I stopped and shouted “YAY, VOTING!!” And applauded them from across the street. They seemed— nonplussed. :)