As House returns, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) prepares for a showdown with moderates pic.twitter.com/bDX0hLmznB
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) August 20, 2021
Im very impressed with the current U.S. evacuation operations out of Afghanistan, so impressed that I want them to continue until everyone possibly in harm's ways gets out.
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) August 20, 2021
As I traveled through @YellowstoneNPS last week, I was escorted by a group of bison, welcoming me to the park. I am grateful to the staff and park rangers who made my first trip back to Yellowstone as Secretary of the Interior informative, engaging, and wonderful. pic.twitter.com/ZhmvWGz25d
— Secretary Deb Haaland (@SecDebHaaland) August 19, 2021
U.S. officials have launched a review of climate damage caused by coal mining on public lands. Coal combustion for electricity remains one of the top sources of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions even after many power plants shut due to pollution concerns. https://t.co/VKDLGu9hbv
— The Associated Press (@AP) August 19, 2021
Trump's brand new $15 billion #BorderWall is being ripped apart by monsoon floods.
This is what happens when @DHSgov waives all environmental laws & ignores basic science to put up a political prop.
Photo taken near the San Bernardino Natl. Wildlife Refuge by @madreanwildlife. pic.twitter.com/dKF4M3XTU9
— Laiken Jordahl (@LaikenJordahl) August 20, 2021
AFL-CIO elects first woman president; first African-American for No. 2 job https://t.co/Bvl8jGM5S5 pic.twitter.com/HvrppXSMxB
— Reuters (@Reuters) August 21, 2021
rikyrah
Good Morning Everyone ???
Baud
I have to make it to Yellowstone one of these days.
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Ken
@Baud: Welcome back. Or have you been back for a while, and I missed the party?
Anyway, the nice thing about Yellowstone is that there’s a small but non-zero chance it will come to you.
rikyrah
@Baud:
Baud!!!
How was your break ??
Dorothy A. Winsor
Good morning.
Along with some friends, we’ve been planning a day trip to the Milwaukee Art Museum, with lunch to follow, but have decided to cancel, given the heavy spread of COVID in our area. Everyone asking me to be nicer to anti-vaxxers can take their niceness and shove it.
Baud
@Ken:
With my luck, it’ll erupt when I’m president and the media will blame me for not evacuating everyone out of the country fast enough.
rikyrah
@Baud:
Yellowstone is on the bucket list
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Ken: The first time I read about that possible eruption, it scared the wits out of me. I try not to think about it.
rikyrah
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Nicer to the Anti-vaccine folks?
Phuck Outta Here ??
Baud
@rikyrah:
I think I made a mistake investing in that Kandahar time share.
Professor Bigfoot
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Same for me when I learned about the New Madrid fault. <shudder>
rikyrah
@Baud:
????
Never change
Butter Emails!
@Baud:
Run as a Republican. Then they’ll blame the Democrats.
Amir Khalid
Liverpool are leading visitors Burnley 2-0 in the Premier League’s early game. This has been a hard-fought match: Burnley won this fixture last season, and clearly fabcied their chances again.
Ken
@Baud: Shhh! We don’t want to know where you were, or what recent changes of government you were facilitating.
WereBear
@rikyrah: Good morning!
And welcome back, Baud. I’m not wearing pants.
In fact, I live in pajamas, which is something I’d like to see on the platform statement.
Baud
@Butter Emails!:
I’d rather be consumed by volcano ash.
Baud
@WereBear:
The anti-mask movement had given us an opening in the war against pants. I plan to take advantage of it.
Amir Khalid
@Ken:
Gasp! Was Baud in Malaysia this week?
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Yes. Like your comment.
OzarkHillbilly
My favorite tech pioneer is flapping his gums again:
Because grocery shopping is the 3rd leading cause of death in America.*
Not near as expensive as workmen’s comp, unemployment insurance, paid vacations, health insurance, family medical leave, etc etc etc.
Eat your heart out, Boston Dynamics.
*SARCASM
Baud
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Same with meteors.
Neither the earth nor the universe cares that much about our lives.
NotMax
Weekend long
readlisten. Rare one-on-one interview with voicemaster Mel Blanc.eclare
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Agree 1000%. I’m sorry you’re missing your day out.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Like working on a Tesla assembly line? And were are the Replicants Musk, you promised us Repulicants. It won’t be the future until people are terrified of roving bands of robot kick boxing hooker death squads.
OzarkHillbilly
Rain falls on peak of Greenland ice cap for first time on record
OzarkHillbilly
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: He can dream, can’t he?
Amir Khalid
And Liverpool hold off a hardworking Burnley side to start the season with two wins and two clean sheets.
frosty
@Ken:
We went with our kids in 2005 and my sister-in-law freaked out about the chance of the caldera erupting. My response was that I’d rather be launched 50 miles in the air to certain death than deal with the lingering death from chaos and crop failures from 10 feet of ashfall.
Hmm … kinda grim. Happy Saturday!
JPL
@Baud: Well back!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Sounds like the former Trump admin members are blaming the whole mess on Stephen Miller. Quite the reversal from two weeks ago when the Withdraw was Trump’s most awesome of the awesome things.
Central Planning
@Baud: Maybe swap for some time in Kabul?
sab
Akron’s Highland Square is having its PorchRockr Music Festival this weekend. It is exactly what it sounds like. A neighborhood music festival with musicicians playing on about thirty front porches around the neighborhood. Also more spontaneous arts and crafts sales. Plus a big boon to the local business district.
They cancelled it last year. This year a few months ago starting it back up seemed like a good idea. Today not so much. Sigh. It is usually so much fun. My stepdaughter and her kid moved into the neighborhood last month. They’ll be sitting it out at home this year.
rikyrah
Funny how the MSM leaves this out as they try and hurt 46 and his Administration??
The Republican Accountability Project (@AccountableGOP) tweeted at 9:42 PM on Fri, Aug 20, 2021:
RAP Dir. @OliviaTroye on the Trump admin’s gutting of our refugee processing systems: “For four years, this administration under Trump, they did nothing. And they decimated the process. They destroyed it.” https://t.co/Fl9Paa8l1G
(https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1428910253584883716?s=02)
Amir Khalid
@OzarkHillbilly:
Having a human-looking robot work an assembly line or do stuff around the house might look cool, but Elon ever stop to consider what it costs compared to just hiring a real human?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Been amused by the travails of the Minnesota GOP, but genuinely puzzled as to why TFG only lost by 7 points there.
Wondering, though, why any adult would think “hey, let’s facilitate sex work among 16-17 year old young women. They are sort of almost adults, look great, can drive, enjoy sex, like nice things, and some of them can REALLY party. That’s worth risking being on the registry for life and taking a felony conviction along with confinement.”
eclare
@sab: Delta changed everything so quickly.
dmsilev
@OzarkHillbilly: This is the same Tesla AI division whose “autopilot” seems to have a penchant for ramming into parked firetrucks and the like. Musk at one point promised that “a Tesla will be able to drive itself from LA to NYC”, with the initial delivery date of a few years ago. He actually *sold* that package to a bunch of his customers, a several thousand dollar surcharge.
So, appropriately large box of grains of salt would be indicated.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Amir Khalid:
I’ve seen a number of warning flags from economists, futurists and sociologists about how enhanced-AI machine labor will create the need for massive economic restructuring and support for the masses of humanity that will be jobless. The alternative to that is extremely bloody revolution as the tipping point is reached, my guess somewhere around 2080. My kids may be here for it, but if I have grandchildren, they’ll be in the thick of it.
sab
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Whatever hurts Stephen Miller’s reputation is fine with me. I want people who Google him to say “eww” forever.
Cameron
@OzarkHillbilly: WTF?
Ken
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Are your two paragraphs (“travails of the Minnesota GOP” and “facilitate sex work among 16-17 year old”) related? If so, could you post salacious links?
And if they’re not related, what has Matt Gaetz done now?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
There might have been some zoom dockets where I was not only pantless, but also nood from waist down.
Just sayin’……
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Ken:
Ask, and ye shall receive…
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/21/minnesota-gop-in-ruins-shocking-scandal-506487
geg6
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I have missed this news. Is the MN GQP going full Gaetz as a political strategy?
sab
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I heard dire warnings about replacing humans with scanning machines for tax prep. We tried it in my office, and the results were hilariously awful, so I am safe for a while.
My machinist step-son has been dealing with robots for a while and finds supervising them to be incredibly boring. But he doesn’t think Elon Musk’s crew will be the ones to pull this off.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Ken:
More details:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-strategist-anton-lazzaro-arrested-for-underage-sex-trafficking
Cameron
@Amir Khalid: True. Bugger the robot; I want a dancing human in a robot suit.
Citizen_X
It’s my RIGHT as an American to be consumed by volcanic ash! Just because you sheeple are scared of breathing 1000-degree gasses and being buried by hot pumice is no reason I should live in fear! Defend are freedoms!!!
Ken
I think that depended on the hyperloop tunnel being built first, and he got bored with that project.
OzarkHillbilly
Aww c’mon, you mean the break dancing actor in a bodysuit didn’t convince him???
mrmoshpotato
@Ken:
Are you saying we need volcano insurance?
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I like how I have to read several paragraphs down to learn about the accusations. Definitely different rules for reporting on Dem scandals.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@sab: It sounds like it’s outside which should help some. I suppose it depends on how crowded it is.
Cameron
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: You were tubin’ with Toobin?
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I still have not heard a good explanation for why the current advancements in technology will have a different effect than pay advancements in technology in terms of the labor market.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Good lord. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of people.
I guess a group’s culture really is shaped from the top down.
Anyway
One of my favorite vacations was to Yellowstone in February. Never tire of geysers and moose against a snowy backdrop. Snowshoeing and cross-country skiing in the park was magical. Didn’t care for the loud snowmobilers…
mrmoshpotato
@Amir Khalid: Everyone enjoys clean sheets!
mrmoshpotato
@Anyway: Moose geyser! Messe everywhere!
Reboot
Delurking to say that you are a great American.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
“Disruptive paradigms and reordering the supply of human capital which maximize shareholder value, something something, PROFIT! It will lower labor costs and save even more downstream because those left can be paid less because of the surplus of human capital supply. Those shut out will work things out on their own.”
– Some MBA Operations Consultant, over the howling objections of HR
Ken
Better than a dancing robot in a human suit, I guess.
WereBear
@sab: Thing is, work itself is becoming more complicated and demanding. It’s one thing to have robots paint cars, which is boring and repetitive and unvarying. It’s another to ask them to make constant decisions.
I think we’ve already picked the low-hanging fruit there.
Ken
It just makes sense, like getting an extended warranty for your car.
Gin & Tonic
@Cameron:
I suppose it may be BJ After Dark for Amir, but it isn’t for the rest of us.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Ken: Isn’t that essentially what the original Terminator is?
Gin & Tonic
The Weather Channel is in full-on panic mode about the oncoming Henri. I guess I’ll spend the afternoon making sure stuff outside is tied down or put away, but right now it’s sunny and calm, so it’s hard to get motivated.
My daughter, on the other hand, will probably have several feet of water in her building’s garage, so some planning there is in order.
Spanky
@Cameron:
I’m pretty sure that’s where Musk is heading with this
ETA – Also another great band name.
zhena gogolia
I HATE THE NEW YORK TIMES
NotMax
@Gin & Tonic
Original name for the robot in Forbidden Planet?
:)
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@sab: He has been looking like he is auditioning to play the part of Goebbels in a stage production of Downfall lately.
zhena gogolia
Okay, so now Firefox won’t let me read twitter.
Ken
Psychic flash: The Weather Channel has a lot more executives in the New York area than in the Yucatan, the Caribbean, or the Gulf Coast.
Spanky
@NotMax: Has more of a Douglas Adams vibe, to my ear.
Ken
@zhena gogolia: There were some instructions for that yesterday and the day before. Basically open the browser controls, clear all twitter cookies, and block twitter from using cookies.
Gin & Tonic
@NotMax: Silly me, I read that as a verb.
rikyrah
I just can’t ???
MSNBC (@MSNBC) tweeted at 11:02 PM on Fri, Aug 20, 2021:
“We have teenagers face-timing, with their parents to tell them goodbye because they have Covid and can’t come to the hospital. We never saw that amount of young death before,” Dr. Catherine O’Neal says on the latest Covid surge. https://t.co/aFqfCbfoar
(https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1428930379000471555?s=03)
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Amir Khalid: Robotics only work were the cost of labor is high and the product being manufactured is legacy. So the Tesla plant in Silicon valley for example.
opiejeanne
@Baud: BAUD! Great to see you again.
And do make it to Yellowstone, but also plan to visit Grand Teton National Park, which is right next door and gorgeous. We visited both 3 years ago and didn’t see a single buffalo for several days. The 4th day we spotted a herd a long distance from the road, and after that they were everywhere and tourists were acting like idiots around them.
Cameron
@Spanky: or a character on The Mattie Gaetz Kiddytime Show.
mrmoshpotato
@Ken:
Especially if you don’t have a car.
Kirk Spencer
@WereBear: yes and no, I think.
The reason (imo) work has gotten so complex is driven by penny pinchers having one person do multiple tasks that used to be done by others. This there are a lot of tasks for which we can make tech. The inevitable result is one person minding even more tasks, but overall it’s a reduction workforce.
Two examples. I used to live in Dalton, Georgia. They make carpets there. (Yeah, and along that series of towns, but bear with). About a decade ago a couple of plants spent the money to automate a lot of processes. They cut 2/3 of their floor labor if not more, with what was left being there to fix machines, catch and fix the oopses, and do the few complex tasks for which tech either did not exist or was too expensive. Bottom line there was a lot of unemployment in the area for a while, and I got to see a lot of secondary consequences of tech advanced.
Second example. I can recall being told that certain labor would never be replaced as the job had too many variables, and the specific example was picking strawberries. Alas, there is now and had been for a few years a strawberry picker, only gets the ripe fruit and leaves the plant in place so the remainder can ripen.
Bottom line, I no longer think jobs are irreplaceable and the consequences of tech advancement are something about which I’m concerned.
(Edited to fix some autocorrect wonders)
CaseyL
@Ken: I had a friend who emailed me a half-panicky warning that Yellowstone was about to erupt – this was about 15 years ago, before FB metastasized into an conspiracy crank buffet, but still had a fair number of, shall we say, questionable items. I said yeah, Yellowstone is a supercaldera, but nowhere near erupting again. No, she emailed back, it’s erupting again pretty soon!
I called her and asked what the hell was she on about. She pointed me to a website (where a thing on FB had directed her) and it turned out to be one of those End Times/Apocalypse shilling places.
Sweetie, I said, you need to be more careful of what you read.
She has since moved to New Zealand and we dropped out of touch, but I do wonder if she is still that credulous.
FlyingToaster
@Professor Bigfoot: I worry that the next time New Madrid lets loose, it’ll fire Yellowstone up.
*Grew up in Missouri, lived off a branch of the New Madrid Fault in southern Indiana for
a centuryeight years. Even in Boston, all of my open shelves are fronted with bungee cords.mrmoshpotato
@zhena gogolia: No context needed. :)
NotMax
@CaseyL
New Zealand has 12 active volcanoes which are monitored by Kiwi scientists..
FlyingToaster
@Cameron:
Ask and ye shall receive.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@FlyingToaster:
If I’m at work when New Madrid pops, I’m smooshed in a collapsed building – downtown Louisville is built on a bed of silt, and mine is a five story 1891 brick build around a large atrium with a wet basement.
zhena gogolia
I just did all this:
But it didn’t work.
zhena gogolia
@mrmoshpotato:
Peter Fucking Baker:
MagdaInBlack
@zhena gogolia: My current work around is to open the tweet in Incognito mode. I’ve just redone the settings as suggested, so we shall see.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
Biden didn’t win the White House by trying to appeal to the likes of Peter Baker or the NYT.
As you know, when it comes to Dems, the media treats any imperfection as a fundamental character flaw.
zhena gogolia
@MagdaInBlack:
Is there some non-cumbersome way to open it in incognito mode?
Just Chuck
Looks like Musk is going to end up completely cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs insane before he takes us to Mars. Sigh.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
Here’s how he framed it when Trump was giving away the store to the Taliban:
MagdaInBlack
debbie
@sab:
My town’s having its annual Food Truck Festival this weekend. More than 50 food trucks, a bunch of bands, and plenty of lurking virus.
Meanwhile, OSU now has robots delivering pizza anywhere on campus. They’re shaped like large breadboxes and are a great hit with the students. No vandalism reported yet, surprisingly.
Wish they could be loaned to the festival. Some of the offerings look pretty good to me.
zhena gogolia
Geminid
@CaseyL: There was a made-for-TV movie about about a volcanologist trying to get authorities to believe Yellowstone was about to blow (Spoiler alert: they don’t believe him!). The second half of the movie centers on the volcanologist and his mixed demographic crew fleeing the eruption in a vehicle. It was an exciting, bumpy ride. There was an accompanying panel discussion where “experts” agreed yes, this could happen soon. A credulous friend of mine swallowed the story whole.
zhena gogolia
@MagdaInBlack: Thanks — that’s pretty easy. I didn’t understand that you have to put it on the date (I used Control-click).
trollhattan
@Amir Khalid:
Roger Bennett told me to say “asterisk.”
https://twitter.com/colbertlateshow/status/1428069375920066561
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@zhena gogolia:
Edge is working to open it for me, for now. Safari is fucked, prolly Chrome, too.
Dorsey REALLY wants people to have accounts.
MagdaInBlack
@zhena gogolia: I have no clue how my reply ended up in block quotes……….gremlins maybe.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
I don’t think I’ve seen a more concise demonstration of the NYT’s garbageness.
ETA: garbagocity?
trollhattan
@zhena gogolia:
Adam posted the cure yesterday: Dig into FF (or other browser) cookies and delete all twitter cookies. Worked for me after a week of stupid Twitter behavior.
Elizabelle
@Baud: Welcome back.
Did you see how Mrs. Peter Baker (Susan Glasser of The New Yorker) got pilloried/ratioed yesterday for her tweet? Susan seems not to realize she (and hubby) have been wholly captured by the military-media industrial complex. The Serious People. You know. Not Democrats. The other ones. Not the Trumpsters. The Real Republicans.
Her tweet:
Yeah, right Sus. Biden is notable for his lack of empathy.
Miss Bianca
@CaseyL: She’s panicked about volcanoes in Yellowstone and she moved to NEW ZEALAND?
The mind, it reels.
@NotMax: Beat me to it, I see!
trollhattan
@CaseyL:
In geologic time it may be “pretty soon” but we sure as hell won’t be around to witness, or play run-around-like-chickens.
trollhattan
@Miss Bianca:
A friend was raised in coastal northern California because dad was convinced they’d survive the forthcoming nuclear war and he took the time to study probable radiation maps.
Better than Nebraska, I guess.
Starfish
@zhena gogolia: My sister noticed this recently.
It appears that Twitter is not letting people who are not logged in read stuff there anymore, which is very unfortunate and Facebook-like walled-garden behavior.
Baud
@Elizabelle:
Saw it. Twitter is definitely a good thing when it comes to push back against the anti-Dem media consensus. I wonder how Bush II would have fared if he had to deal with it.
Nelle
@CaseyL: I hope she is enjoying New Zealand, with all of its earthquakes and volcanoes. I used to watch Tongariro steaming away while I washed the dishes. We actually lived in Taupo, which is in the caldera of one of the six super volcanoes. I told my kids that, if it exploded, just go to the bank and tell them there won’t be a death certificate. Take the money.
Geminid
@Starfish: I can still read twitter accounts for people like @Sasha Beauloux, @Xeni [Jardin] and others. I just can’t follow the commenting threads, which is half the fun.
germy
@Starfish:
I’m not logged in to twitter, and I can read it. I don’t have a twitter account, I just read.
zhena gogolia
@trollhattan:
I just did that, it made no difference (I restarted Firefox twice).
zhena gogolia
@germy: But can you read replies? That’s the really interesting part, and I can’t now.
germy
debbie
@Elizabelle:
Giving Mags a run for her money, I see. //
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
File | New Private Window (Ctrl-Shift-P).
@zhena gogolia:
You might also have to delete any remaining Twitter cookies from before you said “no more.”
I presume you are talking about Firefox on Win10.
germy
@zhena gogolia:
I can read replies, too. That’s the fun part, when the original tweet is from someone wrong, stupid and/or evil.
I know twitter has lots of garbage, but it’s fun seeing the little people talk back to their “betters” sometimes.
Scout211
@opiejeanne:
We were in Yellowstone in the mid 90s and camped the whole time. On July 7th, we went to sleep in our tent with light rain, then heavy rain, then sleet, then hail and then it was quiet so we slept. Well, we found out it was quiet because it was snowing! We woke up to freezing temps and a few inches of snow on the ground. It was quite the range of weather for a 12 hour period.
We also had a herd of bison walk through the campground and scared the @#@$ out of everyone. It was impressive
NotMax
Speaking of robots, there are some places better left off limits.
germy
LOL
brendancalling
@rikyrah: I don’t think I could despise and hate anti-vaxxers anymore than I already do, but this pushes the needle everytime. I didn’t read the article fully, but I have no doubt some of these parents have their own children’s blood on their hands—they will have to live with that forever.
As for open thread stuff, I’m back in Montreal for the second weekend in a row, visiting my kid. Last night we had dinner in the Gay Village—great free “Disney Princess” themed drag show up and down Rue Saint-Catherine—then we went to see my pal Pete play a swing dance outside. I met his singer, an American ex-pat, and it turned out we knew all the same people!
Baud
@germy:
There are people who are proudly right wing, and then there are others who keep right-wing rhetoric in their back pocket to pull out when they don’t like what a Democrat is doing.
Anoniminous
Good article on SARS-CoV-2 and Covid-19. Sections 1 and 2 give a nice exposition of What We Face and Where We Is. Then the authors start discussing therapeutics & it gets technical real fast
Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Strategies and the Potential Role of miRNA in the Assessment of COVID-19 Morbidity, Recurrence, and Therapy
Scout211
Update on local fire news. The Caldor fire is now over 82,000 acres with ZERO containment. It is moving up the hill and has closed Highway 50, the main road from Sacramento to Lake Tahoe. ☹️
germy
Gaetz took a selfie with his sleeping fiance?
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack:
No, on a Mac.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
@zhena gogolia: Here’s an alternate theory Peter: he demonstrated plenty of both, you just don’t want to see it.
Steeplejack
“The Humans Are Dead.”
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: It’s Shift-Command-N on a mac.
Or File -> New Private Window
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@opiejeanne:
Second Grand Teton. We liked it far, far better than Yellowstone.
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
I believe that you can right-click a link and then select “open in private/incognito mode.”
I am a bit late to this part of the thread, so I apologize if I am muddying the waters.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Yeah I haven’t been to Yellowstone since I was a kid but I met the family in the Tetons a few summers back. We flew there but they drove and hit Yellowstone on the way. If you’re looking for megafauna Yellowstone can’t be beat but my dad said the scenery in Grant Teton was much more spectacular. We did see several bears, moose and elk in the Tetons but no Bison.
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack:
Yeah, that’s what I’m doing for the moment. Hubby really doesn’t want me to open an account.
But we’re all going to be swept away by Henri tomorrow anyway, so what does it all matter?
mrmoshpotato
@Just Chuck:
That slapdick isn’t taking me anywhere, much less Mars.
They Call Me Blue
@NotMax:
Mel lived down the street from our house when I was a kid. He’d walk by our place frequently on his way into town and was never in too much of a hurry to stop and give is a little Bugs or Sylvester.
NotMax
@They Call Me Blue
Cool guy to have as a neighbor.
oatler
@Baud:
OT maybe ,but fuck Chuck Todd.
Starfish
@germy: I think the change is what @Geminid mentioned above— that people not logged in can no longer follow comment threads.
I have not been logged out of Twitter in a long time, so I don’t know how the experience changed. I just know that it is less fun for people who are not logged in now.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
I’m glad to hear you’ll avoid being caught up in the upcoming supervolcano eruption.
@oatler: That is never OT.
Spanky
Third or fourth in prefering the Tetons over Yellowstone, which you definitely should visit.
A low-key gem for bison in the “neighborhood” is Custer State Park, south of Rapid City, SD. The loop road takes you up close and personal with them.
Elizabelle
@germy: NBC Corporate. Friend to military contractors everywhere.
Don’t believe us? Get a load of our Sunday “public interest” shows. And the ads.
opiejeanne
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: It was slightly less crowded than Yellowstone, but neither was bad. We were there in July, peak vacation time. It was part of a trip to attend Longmire Days in Buffalo Wyoming. Since we drove from Seattle area, we planned to hit the parks and see more of the state.
JPL
@zhena gogolia: Stay safe, and check in when you can.
Spanky
@Baud: Question: Can a supervolcano kill a hurricane? I think this is a question Hollywood wants a crack at.
Starfish
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: We did that road trip from Colorado a few years ago. We went to Yellowstone for a few days, then we went to Grand Tetons.
mrmoshpotato
@oatler:
No. That’s never off topic. Fuck Chuck Todd.
ETA – concurring with Baud apparently
opiejeanne
@Spanky: Yeah, but then you are in SD.
pat
@germy:
So I click on the link and a box comes up asking me to log in or join twitter.
At the top left corner of that box is an X and when I click on that, I am in. See the tweet that was referenced and the answers.
Baud
@Spanky:
Sharkcano vs. sharka-cane
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@germy: I saw it. Had I done that to the Countess, I’d be dead.
They Call Me Blue
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
If it works in Edge it should work in Chrome, Edge is a Chromium browser.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Hmmm….sharks or sharks…
Gimme a second to think.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@mrmoshpotato:
Why am I supposed to fuck Chuck Todd THIS time?
pat
@pat:
Firefox, btw.
And the replies to Engel are great.
Ruviana
@CaseyL: Dibs on Conspiracy Crank Buffet as my new band name.
JPL
@zhena gogolia: When you sign up, you can follow favorites, which is pretty handy. I mentioned before that I don’t comment, because that is what can cause angst.
Steeplejack
@pat:
Yes, you’re in, but you can read only that page. If you try to go to another page you get the log-in notice again and (after clicking the X) get bounced back to the page you were on.
Just Chuck
Twitter appears to be blocking itself. I fail to see the downside.
zhena gogolia
@Just Chuck: I really don’t understand why they’d want to diminish their impact this way.
Richard
I liked that photo of the stupid fucking wall being removed by flash floods. That’s what I’m talking about.
Each day goes by and i realize more and more how much i disagree with the people who thought that was a good idea.
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
Yarrow
@zhena gogolia: When you did this, were you on a Twitter page or something else? Make sure you’re on some other site when you delete all your Twitter cookies, otherwise the one for the page you’re on will remain. Close down the browser, restart – again being on a non-Twitter page and enter twitter.com for no cookies allowed. Restart again and try it then.
Another Scott
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Yeah, some things are too big to be able to do anything about…
ScienceMag:
tl;dr – If a big enough volcano blows, it won’t really matter how close you are to it.
… live for today … (3:00)
:-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Geminid
@germy: I’ve encountered some outstanding polemicists on Twitter. @Sasha Beauloux is one. If I were a political ad writer, I would try to learn from Ms. Beauloux’s content and expression. She is very earnest and direct.
Another Twitter account that impresses me is that of @Mangy Jay. Ms. Jay is not so partisan, but she makes some cogent analysis of political issues. I think Jay has a social science background, and I believe she worked on the 2016 Clinton campaign.
Yarrow
@zhena gogolia: It does seem short sighted but they probably want to monetize users, like all the other social media companies do.
eclare
@Another Scott: I live near the New Madrid, nothing I can do if it quakes.
Sure Lurkalot
Grand Teton NP, hell yes! Even though it was snowy and cold in mid-September(!), it was breathtaking. I hope to return with better weather for the hikes we missed.
Deciding whether to go to an outdoor fair in a large park. It’s on one of our regular walking routes, about 2 miles away. Music and a few food trucks. Can’t decide.
germy
@Geminid:
I like history twitter.
Another Scott
@OzarkHillbilly: Obligatory…
Also too…
Hmmm….
Cheers,
Scott.
JPL
@germy: I follow political scientists and news, but I find twitter useful for local health news. The virus is really spreading among the children in GA..
Home / Twitte
The fourth chart shows the age group..
Sure Lurkalot
@zhena gogolia: I do not want a Twitter account and frankly, I think this may be a good thing. I do think that blog posts that compile tweets will suffer but maybe we’ll spend less time tumbling down Twitter rat holes, getting ever more outraged by people’s bad takes and general idiocy.
ETA I do (or used to before this change) follow a few peeps on Twitter so I do think there’s decent content.
Baud
@Sure Lurkalot:
Nominated.
Soprano2
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: They think that if New Madrid activates we’ll get a lot of refugees here in Springfield but won’t have much actual damage.
As for people like Engel, I keep wishing someone would ask them what they’d do to make things better with this set of facts. He should quit “reporting” because he’s too emotional about what’s happening and can’t put that aside.
Anoniminous
@Just Chuck:
Until we figure out how to stop our brains turning to snot long term human space exploration is a non-starter.
Space–brain: The negative effects of space exposure on the central nervous system
[emphasis added]
There’s also serious questions regarding the extracellular transmission of neuro-active ligands, e.g. volume transmission of Dopamine and the co-transmission of GABA and Glutamate, RNA, and DNA in the fluid dynamics of zero and low-G. If it has been studied – which I doubt – I cannot find a publication.
Fleeting Expletive
@pat: Yeah but it won’t let you do anything else.
I don’t want a twitter account because I don’t want my real name/email/phone on it and it declines to accept my pseudonyms. Am I paranoid? I do so enjoy reading replies and keeping up with interesting people’s twitter accounts.
I’m hoping the tweetlords will abandon and reverse this compulsory participation!
Another Scott
@Amir Khalid: You can write off costs for equipment, depreciation, etc., on taxes. One can’t on humans.
Of course, if one has no net profits because one pays high enough salaries that one just breaks even, then one doesn’t pay any taxes either, but the MotUs don’t like that version.
:-/
Musk likes robots and automation.
IIRC, Musk’s brilliant plan to keep the costs on the Model 3 low enough was to have the assembly line be fully automated. My recollection is that the teething issues with the automated assembly line were so severe he moved the actual assembly out to tents in the parking lots where humans put the cars together to actually be able to make deliveries. (And that’s why one should be wary of buying an old Model 3 – the quality was highly variable (Musk himself has said the newer models are much, much better).)
When I’m Benevolent Despot, the tax treatment of workers vs equipment is going to be substantially overhauled!!
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: I won’t open an account on principle. How else can the message be sent that we don’t like being extorted.
On the other hand, someone wrote in another thread that this was just a twitter screwup and is not a permanent thing. ?♀️
I haven’t had time to look into it, but it may pass in a day or two.
Steeplejack
@Anoniminous:
Hmm, I may have to rethink my 1950s spacesuit with the fishbowl globe helmet.
cmorenc
@Baud:
You don’t have to pay worker’s comp or give any benefits or other compensation to robot workers as opposed to human workers. True, you do have purchase and maintenance costs with robots, but OTOH they aren’t going to sue you for overtime compensation or wage theft.
Another Scott
@Ken: ICWYDT.
Cheers,
Scott.
Kathleen
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Hillary had a plan to start dealing with that.
Kathleen
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I’m starting to think the GQP, in addition to its efforts to overturn elections and bring back Jom Crow, is primarily in the business of sex trafficking.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud:
I’ve been three times, I’d like to visit again with a good camera.
Nice to see you again ’round these parts.
Another Scott
@zhena gogolia: Sorry to hear of your Twitter troubles returning.
On a lark, I fired up Firefox here on Winders, went to https://twitter.com/iamhappytoast and clicked around and everything worked fine. I haven’t blocked any cookies in FF (yet).
Same on FF on my Android phone (Galaxy S20+) – no issues, haven’t intentionally blocked any cookies.
Maybe reinstall FF? Or wait for whatever trickery Jack is doing to settle down?
HTH a little. Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
Geminid
@Sure Lurkalot: There are a lot of people on Twitter with good takes, and they are not hard to find. @Sasha Beauloux retweets many of them. These tend to be very committed Democrats, from all backgrounds.
Kathleen
@Baud: Or garbagtivity. Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson formerly with the Bengals coined the word “pissitivity” which I love.) Welcome back!
Uncle Cosmo
@frosty: Kinda like the old saw about where you’d want to be if an H-bomb went off in your city: Right at Ground Zero – you’d be a cloud of radioactive gas well before the pain signals could reach your brain.
Kathleen
@Elizabelle: Proud to say I participated in that pile on. These monsters are vile.
Another Scott
@Scout211: One fall we had a short vacation planned for Sedona then a couple of nights at the south rim of the Grand Canyon. Woke up on our day to leave for the Grand Canyon, weather up there was in the ’60s and sunny. Drive up there, get out of the car, I walk over to see the canyon in person for the first time for (literally!) about 10 seconds before it fills up with clouds. It starts snowing. We see a ranger who says that they’re probably going to close the park the next day. I think we stayed less than an hour or so before heading back down to Sedona…
Weather can change fast out there!!
Cheers,
Scott.
Kathleen
@Geminid: Love Sasha and Xeni.
PST
@sab:
Funny, but I have a Porsche Festival with loud music going on in the street outside my building. I skimmed over that line and briefly thought, Akron too? Cars mean almost nothing to me, but some people sure do enjoy showing off their old, lovingly maintained classics.
MagdaInBlack
@Another Scott: That would be kinda cool to see happen tho.
Kathleen
@Geminid: I follow her too.
Kathleen
@germy: So do I
Uncle Cosmo
Why, yes, yes it could. How soon? How likely? Answer: Spend that cash burning a hole in your pocket on meteor insurance, you’re more likely to get a payout and to remain alive long enough to use it.
Mark my words.
Citizen Alan
@zhena gogolia: I am strangely amused by the fact that I finally got to queens, ny just in time for my 1st tropical storm.
James E Powell
@zhena gogolia:
We need a song with this as the refrain.
James E Powell
@Elizabelle:
Or ask Phil Donahue.
LiminalOwl
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: She (Lazzaro’s “facilitator,” nice euphemism there) isn’t exactly an adult. She’s a 19-year-old College Republican, according to what I’ve read.
@Baud: Welcome back! And when can we buy a bumper sticker?
Elizabelle
@Kathleen: You go, grrrrrl! Proud of you.
@James E Powell: I would love to see Phil Donahue interviewed.
All the people who got it wrong, and have blood on their hands: most of them have stellar careers.
Receipts! Bring them on. Accountability.
LiminalOwl
@trollhattan: A RWNJ I had an unfortunate crush on in college made similar claims about the Falkland Islands, where “nothing ever happens.” This was in 1980. I thought of him in 1982, but we were no longer speaking so I couldn’t ask what he thought now.
zhena gogolia
@Citizen Alan:
That’s the way it always is, right?
J R in WV
@Ken:
Musk got bored with the boring project? Really? ;~)
pretty good fun, guys!
LiminalOwl
@James E Powell: Now my earworm is “I…. hate the Times,” to the old “I love New York” jingle. But I’ll work on something better.
J R in WV
@CaseyL:
Interesting that she moved to the other English-speaking nation with very active volcanology… Hope she got over her volcano phobia.
When we visited Yellowstone V early one spring 30 odd years ago, I knelt on a board walk amongst the many bubbling and boiling volcanic features, and reached down to the bare earth below the board walk. The soil was as hot as a griddle too hot for laying the bacon to fry! That very moment I felt so very perishable and fragile, compared to geologic forces right below us!
topclimber
@Anoniminous: Hey this thread is totally dead but I still must say from a place1.3 billion miles away (i.e. 2 light hours), where it is still the latest news from Earth that we have: I will still boldly go where no one has gone before.
Mary Ellen Sandahl
@OzarkHillbilly:
Snort dismissively if you want the Muskobot selecting your fresh fruits and vegetables.
J R in WV
@oatler:
Never too off topic to fuck Chuck Todd, that fucking toad !!
Just Chuck
@Kathleen: Probably from the basement of a pizza parlor at that.
Bill Arnold
@Fleeting Expletive:
Depends on your threat model. e.g. the Saudis had one or more operatives embedded at twitter who unmasked the identities behind dissident accounts. Twitter has whatever information you supply them, including IPs used to access twitter and device info.
First, twitter does accept pseudonyms; perhaps your choices were already in use.
If you don’t trust twitter or the local (e.g. USA) government, tt is possible to create an anonymous twitter account, though tedious. You need a burner phone, bought with cash, bought far away from your house as possible. You want the Tor Browser or equivalent (e.g. a few Linux distros). These instructions are OK (just vetted them), if followed line by line.
https://www.fresconews.com/anonymous-twitter/
100 percent discipline is required when using said twitter account. A single mistake and game over. Stylistic quirks, reused text (from elsewhere), location hints (e.g. weather), etc can be used to find you. With care, you can be resistant to large nation states.
This is also good, by an actual infosec guy, though a few years old.
https://medium.com/@thegrugq/twitter-activist-security-7c806bae9cb0
Also consider a (paid) VPN. Without at least a VPN (Tor over VPN is better), web site logs will have your IP address (and get your approximate physical location with a simple lookup). With a VPN, a subpoena is required. And configure so that it is always active with no internet access without it.
Tony Gerace
@rikyrah: I have no more patience with these f***s. They are too stupid to learn, and too selfish to care about other people. For some inexplicable reason, they are over-represented in the states of the old Confederacy, but they’re everywhere.
Tony Gerace
@J R in WV: If only there were a way to generate renewable energy from Elon Musk’s massive ego.