It was discussed in the comments, but I wanted to put up a post about Pelosi kicking Gym Jordan and Jim Banks off of the 1/6 committee, and McCarthy taking his toys and going home. Even though idiots like Cillizza think this means the end of credibility for the committee, those of us who aren’t overpaid epsilon semi-morons realize that this is actually good news for Democrats. We can have an investigation without a bunch of mouthbreathers occupying the committee’s time trying to drop Fox-worthy quotes. Also, the presence of Liz Cheney, who is apparently out of fucks since she just hinted around that McCarthy isn’t fit to be speaker, makes the committee technically bi-partisan. It will almost be a shame when she’s beaten by a barely sentient MAGA hat in the Wyoming primary.
Following up on John’s post and my post about the Republicans’ sudden change on vaccination, even Ron DeSantis is telling people to get vaccinated. Of course, he can’t open his reticulated piehole without in the next breath shitting on masks — even so, the bat signal was sent by someone, recently.
Anonymous At Work
I think Death-Santis signed a law ordering execution by firing squad for any statewide official promoting vaccination.Ā Or was that his plan for a special session?
raven
Fuck em
dmsilev
Former RNC chair agrees with Pelosi:
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@dmsilev: Just saw that. Steele is one of the Never-Trumpers I’m most ambivalent about, but he is absolutely right here.
sab
@dmsilev: That link from Michael Steele goes to the coverage on Andrea Mitchell’s MSNBC show, which was just one long Republican talking point. I expected it from her, but not frpm Garrett Haake.
piratedan
@dmsilev: tbf, the usual suspects are making the expected noises about how shamelessly partisan this all is.Ā Without noting that the GOP was given every opportunity to be an equal partner in the process.Ā My only concern is how the inevitable subpoena of GOP members of the House will be handled when they refuse to appear.Ā I do hope that Nancy has the support of US Marshalls or another legal entity to enforce them.
If HRC can show up for 11+ hours of GOP browbleating regarding Benghazi, then these folks should be able to do the same, then again, we’re likely dealing with widely differing levels of guilt and responsibility here.
Brachiator
Any stories about the source of this change of heart? Because this is a pretty big deal. It will be interesting to see if the change in tone has any impact on vaccination rates.
Anonymous At Work
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: He’s a grifter who got passed by before he could get in on things.Ā Doesn’t mean he’s wrong.
And committee should just start with subpoenas for testimony and documents, leading off with McCarthy.
NotMax
Same teapot, different tempest.
Kent
Josh Marshall also says he thinks this is the best outcome and I usually trust his instincts on this sort of process:Ā https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-best-outcome
Anonymous At Work
@Brachiator: Demographics of the unvaccinated and location of them skew as heavily towards Republicans as possible.Ā Florida’s last governor election was decided by under 1%.
The infected are also younger than previous waves, so these are the GOP’s replacements for the senior citizens that are dying naturally.
If DeathSantis loses, he’s a three-term Congressman and one-term ex-governor.Ā Not enough to run against two-term sitting governors in 2024.
Baud
There were no terrorists on the 9/11 Commission.
Brachiator
@Anonymous At Work:
I agree with all this. Still doesn’t tell me who gave the signal to raise the white flag.
debbie
@dmsilev:
Is there any GOP Rep who doesn’t follow Trump or Q? If so, they should be added to the panel in place of these bots.
germy
Bridie Farrell, a child abuse survivor, activist and former national speedskater, announced her campaign Wednesday to challenge Rep. Elise Stefanik in the stateās 21st Congressional District.
https://dailygazette.com/2021/07/21/child-victims-act-advocate-former-national-speedskater-bridie-farrell-challenges-elise-stefanik/
Old School
@debbie: She’s already on the committee.
dmsilev
@debbie: There were about a dozen GOP Reps who voted in favor of the second impeachment. Thatād be a reasonable place to start. Itās only five or six percent of the caucus, of course.
smith
Not really true. The only phase of the pandemic in which infections of older people predominated was the first surge in Spring 2020, probably because nursing homes were hit so hard, and testing was limited to severe cases only. Since then, the highest infection rates have always been among 18 to 39 year olds.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
We need… new blood?
MattF
There was a moment, not so long ago, when it seemed that Cillizzaās head might be emerging from his assā¦ But no.
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
WTF has he been doing this whole time?!?
Patricia Kayden
debbie
@dmsilev:
Enough to fill out the panel. If they all refused, well, we tried. Buhbye.
MattF
Worth noting, btw, that McCarthy is losing control of his caucus. Poor Kevin.
bluehill
@Anonymous At Work: I wonder if this will affect the lawsuit by some cruise lines against FLA’s anti-vax passport law.
Howard Campbell's Soup
While many people are understandably fascinated with the possibility of the anti-vaxxers leading a GOP die-off,Ā Ā I personally wonder if there’s a super-secret poll out there that showed that the “RESIST ALL PUBLIC HEALTH GUIDELINES !!!” caucus would be blamed for the current resurgence of the virus and then punished brutally at the ballot box.
It seems to me that folks like de Santis are more likely to react to that kind of old-fashioned political calculation more than morbidly gaming out who’s more likely to die and how that will affect their electoral coalition vs their opponent’s.
Steeplejack
Excellent Twitter thread by Brian Beutler on how āRepublican bad faith has become the background assumption in so much journalism, rather than a set of behaviors that can and should be questioned.ā
Worth reading the whole thing.
Four Seasons Total Landscaping mistermix
@germy: She might win if the re-districting puts a few more Dems in Stefanik’s district.Ā I don’t have a lot of hope for that, but there’s a chance.
germy
germy
@Four Seasons Total Landscaping mistermix:
Did you see my comment in your last thread about Cuomo and his feet dragging?
realbtl
I kinda wish Nancy Pelosi would nominate 2 or 3 pro-TFGĀ reps who are most at risk electorally.Ā Make them publicly turn it down.
Baud
@Steeplejack:
Good to remind people, but it’s just an offshoot of the whole “only Dems have agency” theory.
piratedan
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: depends on if you’re speaking figuratively or literally I suppose…..
a good many of us are still in Nancy’s Smash corner and feel that she’s up to what needs to be done, she’s just moving with caution because the work that needs to be done is delicate.Ā While I would enthusiastically greet faster responses and more fire and ass-kicking, I understand that the playing field is not designed for fairness.
sab
@germy: Ouch!
germy
Rotating tag.
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Prime example from a Politico writer:
debbie
Listening to NPR’s report on this, Kevin doesn’t do Drama Queen very well.
Bluegirlfromwyo
@Steeplejack: Benghazi looked partisan and political. It was also effective.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Watching MSNBC and Tara Palmieri of Politico, late of the Washington Examiner (who once tweeted the words “Meghan McCain nails it, as usual”), is scolding and warning Nancy Pelosi.
David Jolly, ex-Congressman and ex-GOP (and like Michael Steele, someone whose past, pre-2017 statements about say, voting rights I would like to review) says Nancy Pelosi did the right thing
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
āBoth parties are terrible and are ruining America while enriching entrenched, corrupt politicians. This is why Iāll continue voting Republican in every election like I have for the past 50 years.ā
– by an independent conservative
germy
@sab:
Stefanik started out as a typically bland but evil Republican operative.
After the rise of Trump she changed her style.Ā She imitates him.Ā Exclamation marks, insults, nicknames for her opponents.
Early in her career when she was under Karl Rove’s wing, she must have internalized the strategy of trying to appear normal, but now she’s decided to let her freak fly.
I hope she gets voted out.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steeplejack: Wilson Valdez has a long memory (thread)
WaterGirl
@Howard Campbell’s Soup: Welcome!
Your first comment (on each device) has to be manually released, but after that they show up immediately.
NotMax
@piratedan
Gonna be an interesting Congressional baseball game (rescheduled for late September).
“Game temporarily called in order for Cyber Ninjas to test bats and balls.”
//
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Not to mention FYWP gagging on nyms containing an apostrophe.
Steeplejack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Bazinga!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
long before anonymous sources told us to ignore trump’s claims of voter fraud in November, because he just needed to tire himself out and then he would calm down and take a nap, a staple of Broderist punditry was that Republicans didn’t really believe the nonsense they spewed, but that they had to do it for “the base”, and it was up to Democrats to look the other way and figure a way to work with Newt Gingrich, then Tom Delay, then Bush-Cheney, then Mitch McConnell and Eric Cantor, and finally with trump himself. Politico still wants to dance in that circle. I’m very glad Nancy Pelosi is ignoring them.
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
Shouldn’t you tell him about the apostrophe, or are they okay now?
Kent
The whole Hillary email scandal came out of the Benghazi investigations.Ā Without them we likely would have never heard about Hillary’s emails.Ā Arguably Trump might never have won.Ā And we would likely have a liberal majority on the Supreme Court.
So yes, politically the Benghazi hearings may have completely altered the future course of the country.Ā Hard to have more impact than that.
piratedan
@NotMax: probably would be best to drop all pretense about the game by now, the GOP might offer up the Dem team as a sacrifice to their mob….
Fair Economist
I remain most stunned by how fast and abruptly the entire Republican noise machine shifted to pro-vax. Fox, Newsmax, the Congressional leadership, and multiple governors changed their tune, in ONE DAY.
Evidently the puppet strings are very short.
bluehill
@Fair Economist: They have had years of practice at message discipline. Also makes me wonder what else is going to happen. Hard to believe that this isn’t the first move of a series of moves.
The Pale Scot
Mike the Mad Biologist has what I think is a very good article
Should Democrats Embrace the Culture Wars?
It’s summation of Greg Sargent’s article on a Brian Beutler piece.
Don’t take the gloves off, load them up with lead shot
rikyrah
CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) tweeted at 9:39 AM on Wed, Jul 21, 2021:
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says no Republicans will vote to raise the debt ceiling https://t.co/GWOilqNCrt
(https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1417856658366246914?s=03)
trollhattan
Cannot recall what a congressional hearing without Trey Gowdy’s hair is even like. It will be a reeducation for me.
trollhattan
@rikyrah:
This fuckin’ guy.
You’d think they would have developed some new material.
rikyrah
Black Enterprise (@blackenterprise) tweeted at 7:26 AM on Wed, Jul 21, 2021:
Simone Biles and U.S. Gymnastics Womenās Team Opt to Leave Olympic Village Due To COVID Concerns https://t.co/yCvbFB5h3B
(https://twitter.com/blackenterprise/status/1417823393345425411?s=03)
Omnes Omnibus
@rikyrah: Nihilists.
debbie
Poor thing.
Martin
@rikyrah: Maybe we can start seizing guns and selling them for cash to pay our bills.
Gin & Tonic
@WaterGirl: Thatās practically fascism, no?
Dan B
In religion (nasty) news Monsignor Burill who delivered the results on whether to bar Biden from communion has been revealed to have been on gay hookup site Grindr almost daily from 2018 through 2020 and the GPS on his phone shows he visited gay bars on his frequent trips.
Seems hypocritical.Ā What do you all think?
Anonymous At Work
@Brachiator: A few pollsters behind the scenes crunching Census data and COVID infection data that’s been released and verified, I imagine.Ā 2016->2018->2020 isn’t a great trendline for predicting anything more than “water tends to be wet” but it would possibly show that Republicans are losing grounds in some states and aren’t surging far ahead in others, like Florida, such that the infected can die without electoral complications.
Also, not sure how you’d do this legally (and it wasn’t done illegally) but comparing 2016 and 2018 voters to 2020 voters either affected by or in proximity to those with died from COVID might have some interesting implications.
Just One More Canuck
@trollhattan: I read your comment as being ‘a congressional investigation ABOUT TreyGowdy’s hair’ which is a pressing issue
Anonymous At Work
@bluehill: Shouldn’t.Ā DeathSantis’s lawsuit is about CDC over-reaching their mandate under regulatory law.Ā An admission that COVID is serious or that vaccination is something to encourageĀ wouldn’t be a big deal in that context.
rikyrah
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przidnt? (@przidnt1) tweeted at 11:52 PM on Sun, Jul 18, 2021:
An alpaca walks into a restaurant in Hangzhou. I dunno why… https://t.co/gduYkrtil1
(https://twitter.com/przidnt1/status/1416984266890780673?s=03)
zhena gogolia
MomSense
The majority of people in my state are vaccinated. Ā Those that arenāt are largely from sparsely populated, rural counties that voted overwhelmingly for Trump in the last election.
That having been said, Iām dealing personally with the parents of my youngest kidās friends who will not vaccinate their kids. Ā Some of them are generally anti-vax but some are just anti Covid vaccine. Ā Ugh. Ā They are drinking their stupid elderberry syrups, burning sage, and whatever the fuck else they think will protect them. Ā Iāve gotten into it with a few of them and theyāre mad at me because I have said that it is not just about personal choice, that refusing to be vaccinated causes harm to others and is selfish and irresponsible. Ā Iām a very bad person who refuses to dialogue, blah blah blah. At this point I want the schools to refuse their kids if they refuse vaccines.
fuckem
RSA
@Steeplejack:
Right, this is a clueless take on Bade’s part. As if the alternative, having Jordan and Banks on the committee, would not have created the impression of partisanship and politics? Please.
rikyrah
Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) tweeted at 4:45 PM on Wed, Jul 21, 2021:
for the 30th time, the reason Pelosi has the power to reject GOP members on 1/6 House panel is bc GOP refused to ok a 1/6 commission in the Senate
this isnāt rocket science folks
(https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/1417964049455796235?s=03)
Dorothy A. Winsor
@MomSense: You are my hero
rikyrah
Rep. Stacey Plaskett (@StaceyPlaskett) tweeted at 1:35 PM on Wed, Jul 21, 2021:
Americanās want truth
not antics
not temper tantrums
not obstruction
not b@!!$Ā„?t
GOP you played yourself rejecting the bipartisan approachā¦ @SpeakerPelosi did her job #January6thCommittee
(https://twitter.com/StaceyPlaskett/status/1417916185950269442?s=03)
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: Oops! Ā NotMax is right ā with an apostrophe in your screen name, we will have to manually approve every comment.
You could drop the apostrophe, and we wouldn’t judge you for that :-) or you could substitute an * for the apostrophe.
I didn’t catch that when I approved your comment.
Mallard Filmore
@realbtl:
A few weeks ago McCarthy demanded of his caucus that all assignments go through him. The pro-TFGs would hide behind that.
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack:Ā @NotMax:
Yes, I missed that! Ā I was just dropping in for a second and saw the comment in moderation. Ā Didn’t even notice the apostrophe!
Chief Oshkosh
@Baud: Well, we all have an opinion
/s
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: Pretty close!
raven
Fauci was a baller!
Mallard Filmore
@The Pale Scot:
Start with snatching babies from refugees at our southern border. After World War 2, the allies executed people for doing that.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
This sounds like another GoP trying have it both ways, now they can scream about the committee is partisan and because Cheney is on it, take credit if the committee digs up something serious.
trollhattan
@debbie:
“I’m just going to have a nice little rest right here, if that’s okay.”
I remember a video of a goldie tackling an agility competition only to stop in the middle to eat other dog’s treats off the floor. Total goldie.
Spouse went paddleboarding today and somebody brought along her dobie, who got on the board and was a passenger around the lake. IDK how that even works, but the pics are adorable.
Dan B
@rikyrah: Good for them and very sad for them.Ā Biles forfeits her chance at more medals that she would very likely won with ease.
Spanky
@Dan B: No one said they aren’t competing.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: From where I’m at in Florida I think it is a combination of things.
mrmoshpotato
@MattF:
In what universe?
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: No, we need to transplant Pelosi’s brain into AOC’s body! Frankenstein’s speaker of the House!!!// Or just graft it in there. If two brain lobes are good, four must be better, right?//
This is not a knock on AOC. I think she’s doing fine.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Adam L Silverman: The Speaker With Two Heads! Get me Zombie Roger Corman!
ETA: Or do I mean Zombie Ed Wood? When I was younger I knew that sort of movie better
Roger Moore
@MattF:
You can’t lose what you never had.
mrmoshpotato
@germy:
BOOGA! BOOGA! BOOGA! is fewer keystrokes, Elise.
mrmoshpotato
“I’m an indepeeeeendent!” as bluegal mockingly says on The Professional Left podcast
Citizen Alan
@Anonymous At Work:
I still think Gwen Graham would have won. But Baby had to have his pacifier, and all the Florida “progressives” had to have the guy St. Bernie endorsed even though he had all kinds of ethics issues and, post-election, got caught in an honest-to-god meth-fueled gay orgy, so what do I know.
debbie
@MomSense:
Iām drinking stupid elderberry syrup AND Iām vaccinated. Even so, I picked up some small bug from not masking up JUST ONCE. Those parents are not being responsible.
Jeffro
@rikyrah: anything, anything at all to try and kneecap the Biden Recovery & Boom.
Hey Dems! Ā Be sure to let the GQP’s big business donors know – PUBLICLY! – that the market shake-up/sell-off/whatever to come is entirely a) unnecessary and b) due to the Repubs’ inability to land a punch on Joe Biden.
Baud
@Citizen Alan:
Who hasn’t?
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: #4 should be entertaining to watch play out publicly…”our own governor won’t let us save lives!”
#6 should be #1
debbie
@trollhattan:
Iāve seen a few owners trying to coax their dogs to get up and continue their walks. It would have been easier to move the Sphinx.
Gravenstone
@MattF: He got his gasp of fresh air then just resubmerged into his natural elementĀ – his ass.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
I truly hate to root for injuries, butā¦
Ruckus
@debbie:
That is not funny.
And hilarious. Poor dude just never had it figured out at all.
After seeing the one with the whippet who had to have set the worlds record for fastest perfect maze run and then this.
Gravenstone
@Patricia Kayden: I was envisioning Pelosi seating another member, then telling McCarthy he now has four seats to suggest on his second chance. If he falls for it, they’re even more marginalized. If he continues his tantrum, then leave those seats open and get on with the investigation.
raven
@Ruckus: We just had friends visit with two aussie’s. Intense dogs but really sweet.
Gravenstone
@germy: Shots fired!!
dww44
@Kent: Ever since I heard yesterday who McCarthy selected. Ive hoped that Pelosi would not go along. Ā I agree with Marshall. Ā Now weāve a chance that the Select Committee can truly be the serious investigation it should be. Americans deserve a serious reckoning for the Jan o6 insurrection itāsā¦ the perpetrators and the planners.
Geminid
@Four Seasons Total Landscaping mistermix: I’ll be interested to see how Albany Democrats handle redistricting. I believe New York will lose a Congressional district. It won’t be hard to make one of the upstate Republicans lose the game of musical chairs. Maybe two: Claudia Tenney won her 22nd District rematch with Anthony Brindisi by less than 400 votes. If Ithaca can be added to the 22nd without endangering another Democrat, Tenney is a goner.
I voted for Virginia’s new independent redistricting commission last fall. The comstitutional amendment passed 2-1. But if Democrats in states like New York or Illinois want to be as ruthless in redistricting as Republicans in Georgia and Texas will be, I’m all for it.
MomSense
@debbie:
I have nothing against elderberry syrup, just so sick of the home remedy approach to a pandemic.
NotMax
@raven
Do they first circle around the ‘wrong’ way prior to lying down?
Adam L Silverman
@Jeffro: They’ve been doing it for the better part of a year now.
debbie
@Ruckus:
I donāt know, I think Pink the border collie may have your whippet beat.
Dan B
@Spanky: I hope they’ve lined up safe accommodations and the venues are more careful than the Olympic Village.
piratedan
@Gravenstone: just kind of hoping that she’ll leave it there, if she wants to make a point… leave the seats empty, that should be poignant enough.
Then we can actually allow the committee to work, because they DO have work to do… we have to know who planned it, who funded it, and determine who in our government assisted those who assaulted the Capitol.
mrmoshpotato
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: When did Corman become a zombie?
debbie
@MomSense:
Understood.
NotMax
@Dan B
That would be, by official proclamation, the “zero risk” Olympic Village.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@mrmoshpotato: usually happens when you get bit or cursed, I believe, but I’m not a zombologist
mrmoshpotato
@debbie:Ā Obligatory
SuzieC
@zhena gogolia: Stop making me like Liz Cheney.
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
From the recesses of the vault: not the film most people think of when Corman’s name is invoked.
jnfr
@Steeplejack:Ā ā
Thanks for the link. That was really good.
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: right…but this ‘Delta surge’ is making it quite clear that Florida’s not immune or special; that DeSantis’ “strategy”, such as it is, is not working; and that he is essentially just like the rest of these GQP ‘denialist’ governors.
No magic to be had. Ā No “Florida miracle”. Ā Just under-reported numbers previously, strong-arm tactics against those who insisted otherwise, and now, well…making headlines in the worst way.
Geminid
@Steeplejack: Bade is wrong, and she may not even be arguing in good faith. In the long run she speaks of, the compelling, even devastating, facts that the Select Commitee develops will be much more impactful than McCarthy’s whining about process.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: No.Ā Definitely not.Ā Interesting.
Matt McIrvin
@Adam L Silverman:
Sumter County (aka The Villages) is WAY above 50%.
edit: and Miami-Dade is at 59% fully vaxxed, so, not doing that badly by US standards. South Florida in general seems to be doing better than the rest of the state aside from The Villages.
(This is according to the CDC county-by-county vaccination stats, which I am a bit suspicious of since they seem so different from the state’s numbers for the case of Massachusetts and I’m not sure why.)
Matt McIrvin
@NotMax: Seems to have gotten certain of the commenters a little bit upset.
James E Powell
@SuzieC:
I’m not saying I like her, but I’m urging a cease-fire from our side unless and until she says or does something that reminds us of why we never liked her to begin with.
I’ve haven’t seen any “Republicans in Disarray” or “Republicans Divided on 1/6 Commission” headlines. Did I miss them?
Another Scott
@Brachiator: I’m not sure that much has really changed over the last few months.
https://www.google.com/search?q=republican+encourage+vaccination
shows hits from today, and yesterday, and July 5, and April 27, and …
The Monday 2% drop in the stock market was blamed on “inflation and the Delta Variant” in some reports. Maybe that got some attention.
Robert Costa used to be regarded as “The Republican Whisperer” in some quarters. I see he’s on book duty now and isn’t on Twitter. I don’t know if there’s someone else who covers that beat the way he did…
Time will tell if this is meaningful. I’m not yet convinced. If they really are willing to recognize the evidence and not act to make things worse, then great.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@James E Powell: I’ll never forget her past, from trolling Obama to trying to jump the line for a Wyoming Senate race based on “Do you know who my father is?”, and throwing her sister, SIL (and I believe their kids?) under the bus in pursuit of said Senate seat, and being a full-on, if muted, trump apologist until the Capitol was actually breached, but credit where due: Ā the easiest thing in the world for her to do would be to keep quiet and go along till Barrasso retires and finally get that seat.
Another Scott
@rikyrah: Of course they won’t.
Nancy and Chuck should do the Dick Gephardt deem-and-pass thing.
Cheers,
Scott.
Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)
@Dan B: The women gymnasts haven’t withdrawn from the games, they’ve just relocated to a safer location
“One of the coaches, Cecile Landi, tweeted on Sunday that the team had made the decision to relocate to safer boarding out of caution.Ā “
Gvg
@Adam L Silverman: there are many Florida counties above 50%. Most of South Florida, Sumpter where the Villages are, most of the big cities. The city that is low is Jacksonville.
https://data.democratandchronicle.com/covid-19-vaccine-tracker/florida/12/
I have seen other sites with even more up to date data.
dww44
@Gvg: not surprising about Jacksonville. Ā After all it is the default capital of Soth Georgia..
OGLiberal
Cillizza just wants the Dems to keep letting the GOP bully say “stop punching yourself” in perpetuity.Ā Of course, he and his ilk are the same folks who will readily accuse the Dems of not being tougher.Ā “Tough” in their definition means Joe Manchin inviting Lindsey Graham to play golf and letting him win but calling him out on moving the ball out of the rough a bit on the 15th even though he’s been doing the same thing on every fucking hole.
Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)
@debbie: There’s room here for “Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries!”