Biden is late for his remarks on the Child Tax Credit and the kids here are getting presidential boxes of Hershey Kisses. pic.twitter.com/TSolNsWO0H
— Patsy Widakuswara (@pwidakuswara) July 15, 2021
Biden: "For anybody under the age of 13, this is gotta be boring boring boring for you. I tell ya what, we gotta work something out here so that when this is over, your parents or your uncles or aunts, whoever you are with, they buy you some ice cream or something." pic.twitter.com/TpOAIbd5Zq
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 15, 2021
"We're proving that democracy can deliver for people, and deliver in a timely way" — Biden pic.twitter.com/9d7R7FJlLe
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 15, 2021
Good explainer:
Why the US is launching a $300 monthly child benefit https://t.co/UMsgHeerdF
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) July 15, 2021
Starting today, millions of parents could see extra money in their bank accounts, thanks to a new, expanded child tax credit.
Eligible families could get up to $300 a month per child through the end of the year, as part of the American Rescue Plan. pic.twitter.com/XwNUG7JYu7
— CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) July 15, 2021
I'm really excited about the new child tax credit system, not because it's happening to me (it is, and it's great), but because of what a complete game-changer this is going to be in the lives of my community college students with kids. This will buy groceries all month.
— ML Brennan (@BrennanML) July 15, 2021
To have this money for each child, and it will arrive no matter what for a year? The relief is palpable. They don't have to be afraid about feeding their kids.
— ML Brennan (@BrennanML) July 15, 2021
Every Republican in Congress voted against expanding the Child Tax Credit.
Every. Single. One.
But despite their opposition, those checks are hitting American families' bank accounts today.
And they're projected to cut child poverty in HALF.
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) July 15, 2021
People really underestimate how much normal people like getting a tax cut, *especially* if they think they deserve it. They also underestimate how much people like getting a check, with a similar qualifier. https://t.co/htmISpB8au
— The Mall Krampus (@cakotz) July 16, 2021
“But they don’t know the government cares!”
It doesn’t and it can’t. But it can totally do adequate service delivery for some types of things that people want and doing so is something that people actually value in practice much more than sentimental nonsense.
— The Mall Krampus (@cakotz) July 16, 2021
especially when the alternative is a non-descriptive name that the opposition can more easily lie about
— lindsay (@HyperGlavin) July 16, 2021
“people with kids should pay MORE in taxes” is one platform to die on I guess https://t.co/q9nHzMBlXa
— kilgore trout, terminal hiccups patient (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 15, 2021
this is exactly what's happening: encouraging people to *act against their own well being* to score political points.
it's dumb. I'm so tired https://t.co/avdI2HNG22
— Gerry Doyle (@mgerrydoyle) July 16, 2021
Like 80% of conservative 'traditional values' BS is about having moms stay home to raise the kids. CTC will no doubt result in more households able to have a stay-at-home parent.
Convinced the thing they really want to say is that moms should stay home, but the kids should work. https://t.co/xKSPMk9ZsO
— zeddy (@Zeddary) July 15, 2021
(No, see, white moms should stay home & have more babies. Those other moms should be required to work, to fill the need for nannies, maids, and fast-food employees, to serve the white moms and their precious, fortunate offspring… )
They may well not have success, idk, but it’d be a little strange if they could provide much evidence of success or failure on day one of the program. https://t.co/yTfVIjheGs
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) July 15, 2021
raven
But, but, but. . . the deficit !!!!
Baud
The man loves the ice cream.
Baud
@raven:
Nothing a corporate tax cut can’t solve.
gene108
Good grief, Joe! You may love ice cream, but some kids are lactose intolerant or some parents are on a budget. Way to put families in uncomfortable situations just for a photo-op.
Edit: The lengths Biden will go for Big Ice Cream is ridiculous. Very unpresidential
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
“The tax cuts (for fat, greedy cats (No offense, actual cats.)) will pay for themselves!”
germy
Onion headline:
Panicked Man Wondering If There Something He Doesn’t Know After Child Tax Credit Hits Bank Account
raven
@gene108: It’s always something isn’t it
https://youtu.be/9hYGtXIqDa0
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone???
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
debbie
The thinking seems wrong. Discouraging vaccination results in more of your voters dying. Like dealers selling fentanyl results in more of your customers dying. What school of economics is it that promotes killing your customer base?
debbie
@Baud:
Because everyone loves corporate welfare! //
mrmoshpotato
@gene108:
Yes, please! Moose Tracks TO THE EXTREME!
raven
AJC
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
I’m not loving it only because of the whiny bullshit calls I’m going to get about it.
And fuck if I know what judicial policy is going to be on how/who it allocates to.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
Joe Biden (D-Ice Cream)
Baud
@raven:
AJC apparently doesn’t understand the difference between benefits for adults and benefits for children.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@debbie:
I once had a crack dealer explain that he would never deal heroin because it’s ugly, bad business that kills your customers.
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
It goes to the lawyers!
Jeffg166
A government concerned with the majority of the population who are the future generations of the country. What a concept.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
Pundits all scoffed at Biden’s campaign slogan of “a chicken in every pot and an fridge full of ice cream”, but it worked.
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
We don’t hear enough positive stories about crack dealers. Thank you.
OzarkHillbilly
Chickens? Roosts.
Climate scientists shocked by scale of floods in Germany
Geminid
This may be a more indirect effect, but the Infrastructure bill also will cut child poverty by helping parents get better paying jobs.
debbie
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:
Works for Nancy!
MomSense
@germy:
HA!
germy
Brachiator
As President Biden might say, expanding the child tax credit and making part of it available early as a monthly check is a big fucking deal. Along with the stimulus payments and other pandemic related tax policies, more has been done to deliver practical help to lower income families than I have seen in years of tax policy. The economic policy team behind this did a tremendous job. This obviously includes the White House and the Congress.
A couple of notes on the BBC story on the CTC.
I hope that people who didn’t typically have to file tax returns got the word on this. I know the White House tried to publicize this. People needed a computer or smartphone and had to go to the IRS website to set this up.
This little tidbit drives me nuts.
Republicans who opposed the CTC keep trying to cry crocodile tears over possible inflationary impact of getting money to people. And yet they have been hot to open up the economy and get folks back to work so that they can…spend money.
But whatever people do, spend it, save it, pay down debt, will be a good thing.
Horse manure. The Federal Reserve and the Treasury Secretary keep saying that they are not worried about reductions in spending. Hell, Trump’s treasury secretary wasn’t worried about spending when the first stimulus package was passed.
And the CTC does not prevent or discourage work. It reduces child poverty. But the GOP and their supporters keep trying to push tired, discredited arguments.
Best to ignore them.
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: So what you’re trying to tell us is crack dealers have higher morals than Republicans. I don’t think anyone here will be surprised by that.
MomSense
@mrmoshpotato:
There’s an ice cream shop near my office that makes the best ice cream. My current favorite is coriander lemon curd, but all the flavors are ridiculously tasty.
Low Key Swagger
@OzarkHillbilly: Frog in a pot syndrome? Maybe a razor thin silver lining that jolts more people into taking climate change seriously. Will it be enough? Stay tuned I guess.
Baud
Claire McCaskill is not having Bill Barr’s attempt to rehabilitate himself.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
HA! Thing is, it’s about $1500-$2000 to get addressed by the time we gyrate through everything. So nobody pays, but both existing clients and potential clients call to whine my ear off for 10-15 minutes. While I can bill active current clients for the whining, it’s not real advisable to do it for people who might one day call with legit needs; in those cases I just eat the time consumed with the whining.
germy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/explosive-interview-directly-implicates-donald-trump-in-tax-scheme?ref=home
Jennifer Weisellberg is sharing what she knows.
Geminid
@MomSense: We all scream for ice cream.
germy
I can imagine him googling “How do you fix the Middle East?”
germy
The Epstein saga grows weirder and weirder.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly:
According to the criminal law-focused guy in the office next to me, his crack dealer clients also do a good job of keeping their kids’ moms supported.
Brachiator
Sigh. I was tracking some of the coverage of the news about the initial batch of advance child tax credits being sent out and heard the news reporter for a local Los Angeles talk radio station make the following comments, all of which are false.
“For a lot of families, having an additional amount of money given to you by the government makes a giant red flag go up.”
“You can opt out, and if it’s going to bump you into a higher tax bracket or something like that; not that this money is taxed, but it is considered income.”
“Some families are saying this is not what we do, this does not help us right now, we want a big lump sum at the end when we do our taxes.”
This last statement has some validity, but the enhanced credit is large enough that families could take the monthly benefit and still have a substantial credit when they file their tax returns next year. And of course they get money faster. The tax season was delayed the past couple of years, making people wait longer to get that lump sum.
Baud
@germy:
Wouldn’t working in the arms world automatically lead one to work with multiple governments?
WereBear
@debbie:
It’s only 2% death rate and it gets the existing base worked into a frenzy.
At this point, opposing Democrats has to be outright dangerous idiocy because science and working government have become The Enemy.
Which is why Democrats are all baby murderers hooked on adrenochrome. Anything less is just a difference of opinion…
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
It’s as if Biden has a medal of freedom
Brachiator
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I wonder about this. Drug dealers have no problem cutting their product with deadly additives to stretch out the supply and increase their profits. And if customers die, there is always a new batch of fools waiting to get on board.
It’s kinda like the tobacco industry. They never cared that they were selling product with a customer expiration date.
mrmoshpotato
@germy: “Hey Google! How do you…?” repeatedly asked the pasty faced fascist shitstain.
satby
Thanks Obama, for picking Joe to be your VP and giving him the edge badly needed to beat TFG. Biden really is the man for the moment.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
“I, Pulitzer Prize winner Glenn Greenwald, think that vaccine misinformation which confuses and endangers the public is good, and like seeing a lot of it. Critics of vaccine misinformation are fascist authoritarians in league with Big Tech, the government and liberals, and must be relentlessly attacked by me and my league of flying monkeys. I are Glenn Greenwald.”
– by Glenn Greenwald
germy
@Baud:
I suppose working in the arms world could lead one to working with only one government.
But where’s the fun in that?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Brachiator:
What can I say? He’s an ethical guy with an eye to quality control and treating his customers right. As small business owners go, he’s more thoughtful than many.
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: That is not surprising to me at all.
germy
Brachiator
@raven:
California Governor Newsom included a stimulus program specifically for immigrant families who didn’t get federal aid.
mrmoshpotato
@satby:
Yes. And thanks Biden for having the years of experience
to be able to slap the Rethuglicans for the American peopleto be able to that man for the moment.Spanky
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Which reminds me, can the Pulitzer committee retract a prize?
ETA – And how do we make it happen?
Geminid
@germy: Xeni Jardin has put a lot out on Jeffrey Epstein in her twitter feed. Much is retweeting other journalists’ reporting. Some is from personal experience or observation. She attended at least one “Edge” dinner where Epstein was present. These Edge dinners were affairs put on by some Silicon Valley mogul so various other tech moguls could schmooze and pat each other on the back. Epstein cultivated the rich and influential and hung out with them. This was after his sweetheart plea deal on child sex trafficking charges. I think that his past was common knowledge, but that these “masters of the universe” didn’t care, and maybe even approved of him as “edgy.”
Jardin also writes about Russia’s Silicon Valley connections. She used to cover “tech” as a journalist, most recently for the collaborative journal BoingBoing. Jardin announced in February that she was leaving BoingBoing, and that her future plans involved “weed and shitposting.” She now lives in southern Utah with her partner and three dogs.
OzarkHillbilly
Storks expanding their business model: Cocaine stash worth €9m lands on roof of home in Sardinia
germy
@Geminid:
Yes. She talks about Greenwald, Assange and the rest of them. And I see she’s no longer with BoingBoing.
She was married to a reporter (I won’t name him here) who I used to see on PBS. She says he was a sex addict who cheated on her with multiple partners, some he paid for their services. (She may have deleted those particular tweets, though.)
prostratedragon
@mrmoshpotato: Talk last night of googled-up forgeries reminded me that it was 18 years ago last week that Amb. Joseph C. Wilson wrote the NYT op-ed “What I Didn’t Find In Africa.” One might recall that he was sent there because of a document that bounced off a couple of foreign outlets, including one of Berlusconi’s papers, claiming to be just exactly the sort of thing that the warmongers needed to claim that Saddam was ramping up weapons production. Trouble is, even before Wilson’s trip, the IAEA had already concluded that the thing was almost certainly a fake –in part by googling, as I recall.
I’ll bet that quick exposure still stings in some quarters.
prostratedragon
Encouraging support for a part of the White House infrastructure plan — from Newark!
Gin & Tonic
@Spanky: No. See the efforts to recall Walter Duranty’s.
Geminid
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: A week or so before the disastrous Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally, the loser who organized it had some local Pagans motorcycle club members with him at a press conference, as “security.” The national Pagans leadership must have found out, because a couple days later the chapter leader told a local reporter that he and his colleagues would not attend the rally, that they’d been told they would lose their colors if they did. I think this was because the Pagans run their share of drugs, and know that nazis are bad for business.
JPL
@satby:
Hallelujah
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Geminid:
Pagan’s (remember to add the green grocer apostrophe, or they’ll kick your ass) may love their white supremacy, but they love their money more…..
Starfish
?
@Baud:
Brachiator
Biden is using his bully pulpit well, using his people to keep talking about the CTC.
And this administration is not afraid to talk about how to pay for the credit.
They should also point out that many big corporations and wealthy individuals continued to make money during the pandemic. A modest tax increase will not hurt the economy.
Nicole
For those who saw my post yesterday, I am pleased to report the toe grips my senior dog pulled off her nails and ate on Wednesday night passed through her system, and neither the dog nor the toe grips are the worse for wear. I… may have salvaged them. I weighed it back and forth, standing there on the sidewalk, after she’d done her business, but finally rationalized that A) I dealt with over 2 years of cloth diapers and that was a LOT of feces, and B) if the dog had eaten my engagement ring, I’d certainly have salvaged that. At that point, you’re just deciding where your price cutoff is. I guess mine is about $35 (those things weren’t cheap!).
On the bright side, as I am also scheduled for a routine colonoscopy in a few hours, washing off those toe grips absolutely stopped me thinking about how hungry I am. So there’s that.
bjacques
Biden is setting himself up to be the Emperor of Ice Cream.
And I thought the Democrats were *against* executive overreach.
No difference between the two parties //
Starfish
@Brachiator: You can opt out if you make too much money and are going to owe this money back at the end of the year. However, I think they are trying to scare people who qualify for this money from taking it.
raven
@Nicole: Decent news, have you tried the socks?
Brachiator
@Starfish:
True enough. But this is probably a non-issue for lower income families.
Yeah. Good point. That’s why it’s important to get good info out to those who might qualify from this program.
gene108
@germy:
Antifa/BLM have no shame. They will attack anybody!!!!
//sarcasm
Geminid
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Wow! Good to know. If any Pagan’s are lurking here, they should know that I sincerely apologize. I really mean this.
Procopius
@Brachiator:
Not so. I got my refund at the end of January, as always. You don’t have to wait until the last day for filing to submit your return. I don’t think anyone who likes getting that lump sum does that.
Omnes Omnibus
Test
ETA: Okay, it really has been 30 minutes since someone commented.
O. Felix Culpa
@Omnes Omnibus: I generally only comment if I have something additive to say, which isn’t often. :)
Maybe other commenters have adopted the same policy?
Omnes Omnibus
@O. Felix Culpa: Then the blog will die.
Immanentize
@Nicole: Well, I maybe know someone who similarly salvaged a very expensive tooth crown that was swallowed. Autoclave is the friend of all dentists and mouths.
Immanentize
@bjacques: I read he only eats ice cream because he is actually dying of brain cancer and the radiation treatments prevent him from eating regular food.
Ok, I actually made that up, but do you think I can sell it?
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@O. Felix Culpa: Damn, I sure hope not!
Immanentize
@O. Felix Culpa: PS thank you
O. Felix Culpa
@Omnes Omnibus: LOL. I think we’re safe.
@Immanentize: De nada. I have lived with that stress from test to test. Sending best wishes to you both.
Brachiator
@Procopius:
Is this thing still on?
RE: The tax season was delayed the past couple of years, making people wait longer to get that lump sum.
The tax season has been delayed a few times due to late passage of some tax provisions and to let the IRS get their systems prepared. In addition some returns with certain credits are not funded until February.
NotMax
@OzarkHillbilly
“You got off easy, Luigi. It might have been beavers.”
Nicole
@raven:
I’m thinking about trying the socks next. She’s an anxious dog (gentle as can be around humans, but anxious) and tends to object to things on her feet. But I think I’ll try them next.
The Thin Black Duke
Nobody poor is going to turn down money. Anybody who says otherwise, doesn’t know any poor people.
J R in WV
@OzarkHillbilly:
I’m not sure how you go about modeling nonlinear and random events, but I sure hope brighter scientists than I can figure it out.
J R in WV
@germy:
Unfortunately, American Airlines is no better at managing an airline than they are at selecting political people to donate to. So sad. I prefer not to fly AA if at all possible. Delta in the US, or Air France over seas.
I hope to fly Air France again if the Trumpian plague ever ends.
germy
@J R in WV:
We flew American Airlines a few years ago and it was a nightmare in every way. Just terrible.
germy
Biden is winning over rose twitter, one account at a time.
A thread: