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Hot air and ill-informed banter

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Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

I swear, each month of 2020 will have its own history degree.

I really should read my own blog.

I can’t take this shit today. I just can’t.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

Yes we did.

All this crying. this is why i don’t click on stuff.

Saul Alinsky is my co-pilot.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

I don’t care how fun he is after a few whiskies. fuck that guy.

… makes me wish i had hoarded more linguine

The house always wins.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

Deploy the moving finger of emphasisity!

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

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They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

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    1. 1.

      NeenerNeener

      Monroe County, NY stats:

      New cases = 219
      Confirmed active cases = 2584
      2.4% test positivity – still going in the wrong direction

      Deaths at 1206 now

      36.2% of Monroe County has had at least 1 vaccine dose.

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    2. 2.

      Baud

      Economists hail the “Zero COVID” strategy of Atlantic Canada, NZ & Australia as better than the “mitigation” approach of the rest of Canada & other countries. They say “Zero COVID” saves lives & avoids repeat prolonged lockdowns, keeping businesses open

      Thatt could have been us. But, you know, emails….

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    3. 3.

      Mary G

      Orange County new cases up to 248 today. Small new wave probably inevitable between Easter and reopening earlier than standards allow. I’m going to my friend’s tomorrow for the first time since Christmas 2019. There will only be four of us there, but I’m still double masking except when eating.

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    4. 4.

      Baud

      Kudos to the Biden team on the vaccination effort. We rapidly went from having one of the worst responses to Covid-19 to one of the best.

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    5. 5.

      Amir Khalid

      Malaysia’s Director-General of Heath Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah reports 1,349 new Covid-19 cases today in his media statement, for a cumulative reported total of 350,959 cases. He also reports two new deaths today, for a cumulative total of 1,288 deaths — 0.37% of the cumulative reported total, 0.38% of resolved cases.
      There are currently 14,509 active and contagious cases; 186 are in ICU, 94 of them intubated. Meanwhile, 1,270 patients recovered and were discharged, for a cumulative total of 335,162 patients recovered – 95.50% of the cumulative reported total.

      10 new clusters were reported today: Jalan Maju Cemerlang and Jalan Murni Satu in Johor; Jalam Suasana in Selangor; Danan in Kelantan; Jalan Alamanda in Putrajaya; Sungai Mupong, Sungai Rassau, and Tembok Sri Aman in Sarawak; Rich Park in Sabah; and Kampung Batu Lapan Lekir in Perak.

      Sungai Mupong, Sungai Rassau, Rich Park, and Kampung Batu Lapan Lekir are community clusters. Tembok Sri Aman is a prison cluster. The rest are workplace clusters.

      1,342 new cases today are local infections. Sarawak reports the most cases today, 419: 66 in older clusters; 170 in Sungai Mupong, Sungai Rassau, and Tembok Sri Aman clusters; 136 close-contact screenings; and 37 other screenings. Selangor reports 342 local cases: 89 in older clusters, three in Jalan Suasana and Jalan Alamanda clusters, 203 close-contact screenings, and 47 other screenings.

      Penang reports 185 cases: 85 in existing clusters, 37 close-contact screenings, and 63 other screenings.

      Johor reports 95 cases: 33 in older clusters, 17 in Jalan Maju Cemerlang and Murni Satu clusters, 19 close-contact screenings, and 26 other screenings. Kuala Lumpur reports 68 local cases: one in an existing cluster, 40 close-contact screenings, and 27 other screenings. Sabah reports 68 cases: 22 in older clusters, 11 in Rich Park cluster, 23 close-contact screenings, and 12 other screenings. Kedah reports 32 cases: 16 in existing clusters, 14 close-contact screenings, and two other screenings.

      Perak reports 24 cases: one in an older cluster, three in Kampung Batu Lapan Lekir cluster, 10 close-contact screenings, and 10 other screenings. Labuan reports 21 local cases: 20 in existing clusters, and one other screening. Negeri Sembilan reports 20 cases: five in existing clusters, 12 close-contact screenings, and three other screenings.

      Kelantan reports 18 cases: one in an older cluster, two in Danan cluster, 13 close-contact screenings, and two other screenings. Putrajaya reports 17 cases: eight in older clusters, six in Jalan Alamanda cluster, one close-contact screening, and two other screenings. Melaka reports 15 cases: 12 in existing clusters, and three other screenings. Pahang reports 11 cases: eight in existing clusters, two close-contact screenings, and one other screening.

      Terengganu reports six cases: two in existing clusters, two close-contact screenings, and two other screenings. And Perlis reports one case, found in other screening.

      Seven new cases today are imported: five in Kuala Lumpur, one in Selangor, and one in Labuan.

      The deaths reported today are a 76-year-old man in Sarawak with diabetes, hypertension, and chronic pulmonary disease; and a 76-year-old man in Sabah with hypertension and hrart disease.

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      NorthLeft12

      I can attest to the dismal failure of the Ontario government pandemic response [Conservatives, of course]. We are right back into another “lockdown” after prematurely ending the last one just a couple of weeks ago.

      Ontario was still at a thousand new cases a day, a level which has been shown was not controllable by tracing and isolating, when our government gave up. So now we are at three thousand new cases a day, and rising.

      It is incredible to me that they can continually make the same mistakes, and justify it each time by claiming they are following the medical/scientific advice.

      Note: The Ontario head of public health is terrible and meekly backs up the government every time. Numerous medical officials have been calling for his ouster since May 2020.

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    7. 7.

      mrmoshpotato

      Florida governor issues order banning ‘vaccine passports’

      Well…if you’re an anti-vaxxer asshole, guess where to move to enroll your kids in school…

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    8. 8.

      mrmoshpotato

      I can confirm Tonka Delorean should still be fired into the Sun.

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    10. 10.

      Tony Jay

      The UK’s precipitous drop in Covid cases looks so dramatic because of the massive post-New Year peak caused (sit down for this one, otherwise the shock might kill you) by the Johnson Government’s homicidal determination to pretend that everything was just fine and dandy in the run up to Christmas. Tens of thousands of extra cases as a result, forcing them to order a 2nd National Lockdown, which has slowed and stopped the runaway spread.

      Coinciding with this latest horrific failure of basic health policy, the success of the NHS-run vaccination program has given the British Media something less gloomy to concentrate their coverage on. Of course, as with the monumental failure of the hugely expensive and crony-run Track & Trace program, the ever obedient Infotainment Machine has covered for the Tories with a little bit of terminological gaslighting, being very insistent on calling it the NHS Test & Trace program, while being equally disingenuous by trumpeting the Government’s Vaccination program and allowing Johnson and Co to claim it as their success without any pushback whatsoever.

      All part and parcel of living in Lesser Brexitannia, where up is down, right is wrong, and apparently the only institutional racism is that suffered by lower-class white folks at the hands of eeeebil PC elitists.

      Still. Liverpool won at the weekend, so there’s that.

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    12. 12.

      Sloane Ranger

      There is a note on the Coronavirus Dashboard indicating that, while it will be updated over Easter the amount of data updated will vary so, on to what we know, on Friday the UK had 3423 new cases. This is a reduction of 28.3% in the rolling 7-day average. New cases by nation,

      England – 2847 (down 34)

      Northern Ireland – 84 (down 23)

      Scotland – 397 (down 17)

      Wales – 95 (figures not reported on Thursday).

      Deaths – There were 10 deaths within 28 days of a positive test yesterday. This is a decrease of 43.7%  in the rolling 7-day average. New deaths by nation, England – 8, Wales – 2. Scotland and Northern Ireland had no deaths.

      Testing – Not updated.

      Hospitalisations – On Thursday, 1 April, there were 3536 people in hospital and 517 on ventilators. The rolling 7-day average for hospital admissions was down by 23.4% as of 28 March.

      Vaccinations – As of 2nd April, 31,425,682 people had received the 1st shot of a vaccine and 5,205,505 people had received both shots. As of this date 59.7% of British adults had received 1 shot and 9.9% were fully vaccinated.

      General – It is being reported that Boris Johnson will set out a system of what he is calling “COVID Status Certificates” tomorrow. These are intended to allow people to attend sporting fixtures, theatres and other public events and will be trialled over the next few months. From the reporting, people will have to prove that they have either been vaccinated, had a recent negative test or have had COVID within the past 6 months before being allowed to attend an event. What form the certificate will take is unknown but speculation is that it will be some sort of app. (Well, that went well with the Track and Trace App !). As I reported yesterday there is a lot of cross party opposition to this and it will be interesting to see if he can get it past the House of Commons.

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    13. 13.

      Ramalama

      @Baud: 
      If it’s any consolation, we watched the report from our Quebec bunker and said the same thing. The whole Atlantic Bubble has been a runaway/quarantine success.

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    14. 14.

      Just One More Canuck

      @NorthLeft12:Ontario resident as well  – couldn’t agree more. . Ford has done nothing to help. He is hoping the vaccine will take effect soon enough so doesn’t get clobbered in the election next year but he doesn’t realize that he’s killing off his own base

       

      but at least we’ll get a shiny new highway from nowhere to nowhere

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    15. 15.

      Laura Too

      Can anyone point me in a direction of a disinformation campaign on the vaccine? It came up in yesterdays post from Watergirl on What 80 or 95% Vaccine Protection Means. I will put some of the whole quote “So with vaccine you are protected against severe disease (likely hospitalization) or death. It does NOT mean you can’t get infected, can’t get sick or won’t infect other people OR NOT GET LONG COVID. More and more data is coming out on these points, and will probably be submitted to the FDA as part of regular approval for each vaccine.”
      I have a really good friend, super smart, who is terrified even after she gets her vaccination that she will get long Covid. The language the commenter used is verbatim to her fears. She is from Turkey, so I know she reads a lot of news from out of the US, but everyone she mentioned as reputable. Guardian, etc. I tried to search Google but couldn’t come up with anything.

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    17. 17.

      rikyrah

      We just need to get the vaccine to our rural folks.

      Give vaccine to Canada and Mexico.

      Then, we can start helping the rest of the world.

      Starting with Brazil😢😢

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    19. 19.

      YY_Sima Qian

      On 4/3 China reported 10 new domestic confirmed & 1 new domestic asymptomatic cases, all in Yunnan Province. There are currently 33 domestic confirmed & 32 domestic asymptomatic cases in the Province.

      • Ruili in Dehong Prefecture reported 10 new domestic confirmed (3 moderate, 7 mild, & 3 previously asymptomatic) & 1 new domestic asymptomatic cases. There are currently 33 domestic confirmed & 31 domestic asymptomatic cases there. Of the 7 new domestic confirmed cases (2 moderate & 5 mild), 6 are Chinese nationals and 1 is a Burmese national. The new domestic asymptomatic case are is a Chinese national. 2 residential compounds, 1 community, 1 factory & 1 village remain at Medium Risk.
      • Gengma County in Lincang City did not report any new positive cases. There is 1 domestic asymptomatic case there. All traced close contacts have tested negative so far.

      Imported Cases

      On 4/3 China reported 11 new imported confirmed cases, 17 imported asymptomatic cases, 2 suspect cases:

      • Shanghai Municipality – 6 confirmed cases, 5 Chinese nationals returning from the US & 1 from France; 2 suspect cases, no information released
      • Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 2 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from Bangladesh & Malaysia; 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Turkey 
      • Zhaoqing in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Indonesia, off a flight that landed at Guangzhou
      • Tianjin Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a US national coming from the US; 4 asymptomatic cases, 2 Chinese nationals returning from Benin (via Paris CdG) & 1 each from Congo (Brazzaville) (via Paris CdG) & France
      • Beijing Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Canada
      • Fuzhou in Fujian Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), a Chinese national returning from Papua New Guinea; 2 asymptomatic cases, both Chinese nationals returning from Japan
      • Xi’an in Shaanxi Province – 3 asymptomatic cases, all Chinese nationals returning from the UAE, all off a flight diverted from Beijing
      • Nanjing in Jiangsu Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, no information released
      • Chengdu In Sichuan Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, both Chinese nationals returning from Algeria
      • Dalian in Liaoning Province – 1 asymptomatic case, no information released 
      • Taiyuan in Shanxi Province – 1 asymptomatic case, coming from Poland

       

      Overall in China, 9 confirmed cases recovered, 15 asymptomatic cases were released from isolation & 4 were reclassified as confirmed cases, and 417 individuals were released from quarantine. Currently, there are 215 active confirmed cases in the country (181 imported), 2 in critical/serious condition (both imported), 299 asymptomatic cases (267 imported), 3 suspect cases (all imported). 6,749 traced contacts are currently under centralized quarantine.

      As of 4/3, 136.677M vaccine doses have been injected in Mainland China, an increase of 10.061M doses in the past 24 hrs.

      On 4/4, Hong Kong reported 7 new cases, all imported.

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    20. 20.

      WaterGirl

      @Laura Too: Did you pose your question in the original thread?  Because people still seem to be commenting on that thread, and it is linked in the sidebar.

      If you don’t get an answer here, you might get one there.

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    21. 21.

      rikyrah

      @Baud:

      I can’t go to that dark place this morning. When I think of the hundreds of thousands of people who should still be alive, but aren’t because of the DELIBERATE MALICE of Dolt45’s Administration.

      All those families devastated 😢😢

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    22. 22.

      Laura Too

      @rikyrah:  Yes that was my guess but I can’t find anything in regular sources that tells me what exactly she’s reading. It is so frustrating to have to witness someones sheer terror over manufactured bullshit.

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    23. 23.

      WaterGirl

      Child prostitutes.  Illegal children.

      All the letters should be stolen from people who say things like that, so they wouldn’t be able to peddle that shit anywhere, ever again.

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    24. 24.

      counterfactual

      @Laura Too: @Laura Too: 

      That quote is not a conspiracy theory, it’s a combination of bad reporting and doom scrolling. The studies that have been done so far have focussed on deaths and hospitalizations, since that’s what’s needed to get an emergency use action from the FDA. The other things are not known for sure right now. That’s why a normal vaccine acceptance procedure is 5-10 years to do all the studies on those things.

      That said, there are some preliminary studies that seem to show that the vaccines prevent infection entirely, at least for a few months. There’s also anecdotal reports that getting the vaccine can fix Long COVID.

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    25. 25.

      Laura Too

      @WaterGirl: I did, and I read the comments as well. Everyone has the same guess about Russians but no links. My friend had no link and neither did the original commentor from last night. I still have it open in another window and will keep checking if anyone responds, here or there. (As I’ve said, I’m a slow reader so sometimes I am still reading days old threads to catch up) I love that everyone is always here. :)

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    26. 26.

      sdhays

      @Baud: I wonder how much that’s true and how much we would still be screwed over by the governors and wingnut legislatures. Certainly the response would have been light years better, nationally, but I think “zero COVID” would be impossible in a country with governors like Dollarstore Sarah Palin and DeathSantis.

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    27. 27.

      Laura Too

      @counterfactual: Ah!!!!! That makes a ton of sense because she is prone to doom scrolling and I’m not so I wouldn’t put it together like that. It also explains why no one could point to an exact quote, and the Russians tossing in a tweet here and there would not be picked up. Thank you!!!!

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    28. 28.

      Geminid

      At a Covid-19 briefing by Virginia Governor Ralph Northam about a month ago, a question was raised as to the relative merits of the various vaccines. Northam’s answer: “The best vaccine is the one you get.”

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    31. 31.

      J R in WV

      @sdhays:

      …I think “zero COVID” would be impossible in a country with governors like Dollarstore Sarah Palin and DeathSantis.

      In my imagination, I can see every road into those state closed by national guard armored units, no one allowed in or out without being vaccinated and issued a card and waiting two weeks.

      Even little dirt roads between farms along the state border!

      Out of hot dogs, ramen noodles, soap… how long would Noem or deSantis hold out if the state was really federally quarantined? Of course it is just that, a fantasy. But what if…?

      Could have been zero fatalities a long time ago!

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    32. 32.

      Laura Too

      @The Moar You Know: Yeah, what caught my attention was the wording was the same for both the commentor and my friend-so I knew it wasn’t an accident. It is hard to combat something when you don’t know what it is. They plant seeds of doubt and sadly it seems to trip up the smartest people. But armed with that knowledge I can work on it. I so appreciate everyone here!

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    34. 34.

      Eolirin

      @Laura Too: Yeah, there’s a big difference between we don’t yet know exactly how much protection we get from mild or asymptomatic infection and what transmission risks or long term effect risks are, which is true, and a definitive it doesn’t protect against those things, which is not something we know either.

      Early evidence is suggesting the vaccines are in fact protective against even asymptomatic infection and transmission. But we really don’t know for sure how much just yet.

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      sdhays

      @J R in WV: I suppose there’s also the wildcard of what would have been the state of the Republican Party if Dump had lost like he should have? Without the President driving the divisions, the partisanship over responses wouldn’t have been as sharp.

      Maybe.

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    36. 36.

      J R in WV

      @The Moar You Know: ​
       

      I agree completely. That troll commenter night as well be employed by Russia Today, or more likely via a contract working for GRU. I put them in the pie safe, personally.

      The English of the comment was kind of malformed and the “facts” were so distorted that even were they “facts” at all they made no sense at all. Malicious Gibberish!

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    37. 37.

      J R in WV

      @sdhays:

      The Republican party is as deviously evil without Trump involved.

      Look at Fled Cruz and Josh Hamberger-brain, both as mean as a snake drooling venom.

      Dollar-Store Sarah, governor of a state and killing her people as fast as Trump did. Senator Lindsey Graham-cracker flashing an AR-15 he has no idea how to use, much less how to take down and clean.

      Malicious, power-hungry, crazed, ignorant fools all. Grrr.

      And look at me, no curse words, still managed to say what I feel…! Shocking~!~

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    38. 38.

      Platonicspoof

      @Laura Too:

      In WaterGirl’s thread I haven’t seen any mention of challenge trials, which answers a different question than the vaccine efficacy trials, which answers a different question than effectiveness (“real world”).

      The efficacy trials were for prevention of particular sets of reported symptoms. So in the Lancet article quoted by Kristine at comment 2:

      It does not mean that 95% of people are protected from disease with the vaccine—a general misconception of vaccine protection also found in a Lancet Infectious Diseases Editorial.

       

      The efficacy trials used two groups of people, one vaccinated and one given placebos.

      Challenge trials use one group of people and deliberately infect everyone to directly answer the question “does the vaccine prevent infection?”. Everyone gets repeatedly tested.

       

      Even though the purpose of the efficacy trials was not to measure prevention of infection, as Betsy at comment 146 in WaterGirls post said:

      The clinical trials measured much more than just incidence of severe disease and death.

       

      But that info comes from data created after the trials. This article lists three studies from England, Israel and Moderna that try to indirectly calculate prevention of infection, but they are not challenge trials. 

      Likewise, this CDC report used weekly testing for infections (not just symptoms) of vaccinated and not vaccinated people to measure effectiveness. Important qualifications in “Discussion” section.

      This Feb. 17 BBC article reports the world’s first vaccine challenge trial. People will be deliberately infected after vaccination to most directly answer the question “Do vaccines prevent infection? “.

      Edit to limit already too much oversimplification.

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    39. 39.

      Soprano2

      Man, there’s my new pet peeve “just a little while longer”. What the hell does that mean – one month, six months, what are you talking about? My city came up with metrics for relaxing restrictions – actual numbers to shoot  for. So I can tell people here “you don’t like the restrictions,  get vaccinated and stay healthy,  because when we get to 20 cases a day or fewer & fewer than 20 in the hospital over 28 days and 50% vaccinated in the city, most of them go away”. It’s motivation – “just a little while” isn’t.

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