Help is here — and brighter days lie ahead. pic.twitter.com/HSp8rPBxty
— President Biden (@POTUS) March 10, 2021
New analysis of Biden stimulus impact out today –>
— Poverty falls by 42% for black people
— By 39% for Hispanic people
— By 34% for white peopleOverall, bill lowers poverty rate from 13.7 percent to 8.7 percent – similar to Columbia analysishttps://t.co/8LVhO7vpFB
— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) March 10, 2021
Remember when people were 100% certain Biden would pass a watered down bill to get GOP votes?
Twitter continues to be wrong about everything. https://t.co/qI7b6Ir5qS
— Fleet (@fleetadmiralj) March 10, 2021
NEW: American Airlines is telling 13,000 workers who received notices of April 1 furloughs "you can tear them up!" House passage of $1.9 trillion stimulus bill extends airline Payroll Support Program once again. pic.twitter.com/a23SkVfhwd
— Pete Muntean (@petemuntean) March 10, 2021
Kittens aren't polling at 75%. https://t.co/5NbtHpVrni
— Jeff Fecke (@jkfecke) March 10, 2021
The boom will be due to our eliminating Malarkey. The $1.9T just takes it to the next level. https://t.co/uHxj8Wm9AW
— Jeff Fecke (@jkfecke) March 10, 2021
Credit where due:
The American Rescue Plan will
– send $1,400 direct payments to working class adults & their kids
– cut child poverty in HALF
– boost unemployment payments by $300
That is just some of what's in the bill. What a difference it makes when government is on the side of working people.— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) March 10, 2021
National Guard stumble upon euphoric Dem celebration of the stimulus law in the Rotunda, grab Bernie for a photo. pic.twitter.com/4duslxV417
— Emily Cochrane (@ESCochrane) March 10, 2021
(You know that photo has to be deeply confusing to some of Sen. Sanders’ loudest-on-social-media supporters… )
raven
I wanted to get in here to stop that annoying bullshit on an initial post.
citizen dave
@raven: Well done! I hate the newer “I’m #2 BS” also.
raven
@citizen dave: We need to crush it, this isn’t Firedog Lake!
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
I wonder what’s the difference is btwn Biden and Obama. Why did they lose their minds over Obama, yet are indifferent to Biden and his polices. I wish I could point to the difference.
satby
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: pointing out racism is the new racism.
debbie
@raven:
Heh, good luck with that.
Thirteen thousand jobs saved immediately! Scoff at that, you GQP assholes!
The Oracle of Solace
@raven: I remember before McConnell darkened our skies and Bill Frist was Senate Republican Leader, it was almost de rigueur for some wag to type FRIST! as the initial comment. Those were dark days.
Chief Oshkosh
So far all I’ve heard from GQPers is how it’s a liberal wishlist for blue states. I sure would like to see the press pull their heads out of their collective asses and start asking these GQPers what they specifically don’t like and how it specifically will not benefit their constituents.
But other than that — Aviators, bitches!
Low Key Swagger
@raven: Interesting that you say that. I’ve been here a very long time, lurked for over a decade. The comments used to be what kept me around. (Well, that and some excellent front pagers) Sometimes, though I cringe reading thru threads, because that’s exactly what I am reminded of. (FDL) Some very good commenters have left, and I miss some of them quite a bit.
raven
@The Oracle of Solace: And on FDL it was “Fitz” for the dude that was going to put Bush’s henchmen in the joint.
rikyrah
Good Morning Everyone ???
Starfish
@raven: Thank you for your service. It has been so annoying, and I wish people would cut it out. Nothing signals a low-quality comments section like that kind of nonsense.
rikyrah
This bill is going to help a lot of people ??
raven
@Low Key Swagger: Yea, there are some good folks who are gone.
Spanky
@raven:
Boy, you can say that again.
(Edited for stupidity)
rikyrah
@raven:
???
JAFD
Good morning from New Jersey !
Highs this past weekend were in the 30’s, today predicted to be in 70’s. Then cooling off again this coming weekend
In minor good news, mail order package mailed from Scotland last Friday, ‘out for delivery’ today. Us mail chauvinists cheer.
Stay healthy, happy and hydrated !
citizen dave
@Starfish: Yes, now that I made it to a #1 in the last day or two, people should now CUT IT OUT!
Low Key Swagger
@rikyrah: It really will. Now the hard part is making sure people know how it happened.
SiubhanDuinne
@JAFD:
Oh, that is so good!
OzarkHillbilly
Betty Cracker
I think the notion that the wingnut media ignores Biden is false. Let’s stipulate the obvious: the wingnut media is infested with racist assholes and caters to white grievance, so Biden isn’t as ideal a foil as Obama was. But they do regularly accuse Biden of being a dementia puppet with AOC and Harris pulling the strings.
The reason they aren’t talking about Biden admin policies as much as they ragged on Obama’s is because the relief package is broadly popular, even with their own voters. So, they’re meeping about cancel culture instead. But they sense an opportunity with border control and immigration. That’ll be phase 2 since it’s an effective wedge issue for them. They’ll talk about Biden plenty.
OzarkHillbilly
As opposed to all the other kinds of nonsense?
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Baud
Two NYT headlines on my feed this morning.
germy
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2B22DF
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@The Oracle of Solace: I ran into that custom at Daily Kos, which I used to read. If it ever was the practice here, it was before I joined.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@germy: As I read in a lawyer comment somewhere yesterday, seven interviews with a witness is not investigation, it’s trial preparation.
germy
Democrats Flip Orange County Supervisor Seat Held by GOP for 120 Years
More of this would be excellent.
Baud
LOL
OzarkHillbilly
@germy: I can’t help wondering exactly how much Cohen can actually share. He was one of trump’s lawyers after all.
germy
That’s what it sounds like. And I hope it’s only one of many wildfires the t**p team has to deal with.
WereBear
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: This is why President Biden did turn out to be the Man of the Right Moment: and Democratic voters did the smart thing.
Are Republicans helpless to demonize old white men?
Discuss.
topclimber
@raven: Ah, but one day your vigilance will slip. Never count out the allure of numerology.
rikyrah
rikyrah
@rikyrah:
JMG
@OzarkHillbilly: If Cohen was participating in a crime, there’s no attorney-client privilege.
rikyrah
@rikyrah:
NotMax
Been a dearth of music of late. For March, a march.
(A personal favorite since first heard it way back when in 7th grade.)
germy
This story isn’t going away, no matter how much they yell about Mulberry Street.
Soprano2
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: The difference between Obama and Biden that keeps the conservative establishment from losing their minds over everything Biden does is completely invisible to all of the news media, or at least they’ll never mention it.
Freemark
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: Pretty sure it is the difference in age. Other than that I can’t think of anything.
Immanentize
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
That is a good line! I’m stealing it….
But, seriously, considering the huge dump of financials from both Trump’s accountants and Deutsch Bank, I suspect Mr. Cohen is acting more as an expert at this point trying to help the DAs sort out the mess. The addition of a skilled RICO and mob prosecutor to the team has given me hope.
OzarkHillbilly
@JMG: Yes, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Like I said, I wonder how much he can actually share.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Jen Psaki is so consistently on-message that I think they are itching to ask Joe questions because they hope to get something unexpected about him.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: He can share whatever he wants if it is related to criminal conduct he was involved in. Notice how Cohen keeps telling the world, “I’m about to testify again!” And the litigious Trump team does nothing to block him?
My guess is they are going for lying corrupt lawyer felon scumbag who never did more than deliver coffee to Trump. Like Chris Christie.
germy
Is there a German word for Republicans who take credit for bills they themselves have voted against?
Soprano2
They’re forecasting 3-6″ of rain for us in the next 2-3 days, and the ground is still not that dry from the 8″ of snow we got in February. Hoo boy, there’s probably going to be some flooding here this weekend.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: oh. I see…. I think Cohen knew quite a bit about many of the businesses, side deals and hush money. Also, there are some reports that he was also the family lawyer who bailed the kids out when they got into trouble, which was not infrequent.
My lowbrow gossipy self wants to know whether Marla Maples has had a Zoomy Interview as well…. Weak link in the ex-wives club.
Soprano2
@germy: I’m pretty interested in that part of the bill. We stayed away from the PPP loans because the first time it wouldn’t have helped us since we were closed, and the second time we decided we didn’t need the hassle. I sure do hope these are grants, so I don’t have to worry about doing exactly the right thing in order to get it forgiven.
Jeffro
@germy: between Wicker, Mr. “There’s About to Be a Boom” McConnell, and the rest, I truly hope Team Biden runs a weekly feature across all types of media
“THIS WEEK IN SHAMELESS: Senator Wicker”
“THIS WEEK IN SHAMELESS: Senator McConnell”
and so on.
They’re going to show up at every ribbon cutting & re-opening and try to claim credit. We will need to work at it constantly to keep them from getting any.
Jeffro
@citizen dave: pulling up the comments ladder behind you, as it were… =)
Immanentize
@WaterGirl: Jen Psaki really is the best press secretary I’ve ever seen. When she was asked “many Americans say …” And she asked back, “which Americans?” And the reporter had to admit it was Trump….
That was so fine!
She does not accept the lazy media framing and rather than ignore it, she makes the reporters own it.
Jeffro
@Baud: yes…we wouldn’t want a president running amok with no accountability, now would we, snooze media?
Yeesh, these people…
Geminid
@Betty Cracker: At some point Biden and Congressional Democrats will roll out Comprehensive Immigration Reform legislation. Then the Republican fat will be in the fire. While past polling shows a substantial majority of Americans support such reform, it is a wedge issue that splits republicans, with the Chamber of Commerce-types on one side, and the “populists” on the other.
Last month I listened to the slick Hugh Hewitt float immigration reform on his radio show. Half his callers were, like Hewitt, in favor. The other half were against, vehemently.
Baud
Comments should appear in reverse order, with the newest at the top.
Immanentize
@Jeffro: or pissing on the comments ladder from the top!
No more “First”
No more “First!”
Say it loud say it proud,
“First” is the worst!
Hildebrand
@Betty Cracker: Yep – the Fox primetime crowd is back to working the incapacitated angle. Which, fine, I guess. It didn’t stick during the election (the debates quashed that) and it won’t stick now (because, well, Biden keeps getting stuff done).
I think the right-wing screamers are like the White House Press types – they are hating the fact that they are going to have to talk about policy, not just the performative nonsense. They got addicted to the sugar rush of the former guy’s outrageous statement of the day.
Of course, the main difference is that the right-wing screamers never wanted to deal with policy in the first place – all they wanted was the outrage of the day. Biden doesn’t give them that, so they are back to manufacturing something to talk about.
Immanentize
@Baud: Said no one except Lewis Carroll’s Queen of Hearts ever.
RSA
@Chief Oshkosh:
An online conservative acquaintance of a friend has said that the law means “free abortions for all.” Because it doesn’t include Hyde language. Amazing.
SFAW
@OzarkHillbilly:
I’m thinking that all this berating of the frist/2nd/thrid stuff is just a back/underhanded way to bust the chops of some of the more egregious commenters, like that guy who keeps saying “Belch,” whoever that is. I think he’s a lurker or a troll or a veeblefetzer or something.
That said: 287th!
citizen dave
The press conference thing–I mean, at least he’s not some crazy man sending all manner of tweets that are all over the place. A crazy way to communicate. Kevin McCarthy sent some tweet aimed at Biden the other day. My reply was, why are you tweeting this? Why not give Biden a call, I’m sure he would take you call. All the crap doesn’t have to be in the public arena.
Was not impressed with this Katie Porter clip. I think she needs to take it back a notch, let people talk, etc. The virtual nature of the hearings hurts us all.
JMG
Biden quite prudently doesn’t want to have a formal press conference until he’s got some things to boast about. Now he does. I’d imagine he’ll have one as part of the ARP hype rollout the rest of this month. Alas, he’ll probably just get questions about Major the dog and “bipartisanship.” Oh, and Harry and Meghan, too.
citizen dave
@SFAW: Was thinking earlier about how the internet needed a “sarcasm” symbol/emoji, other than that one you do with the ;) these things (I don’t know it).
Detecting internet sarcasm will probably be one of the last things AI learns to do.
WereBear
@WereBear: Mind you, I’m not saying only old white men should represent, utterly NOT.
Just this coincidental bit of Judo might be helpful. I explained that when the system has been dismantled, we need people with experience to build it again.
OzarkHillbilly
@Soprano2: How long can you tread water?
Gin & Tonic
@Starfish: I’ve been here a while, too, and I think it’s amusing (and I clearly didn’t get in this thread early enough.)
SFAW
@Baud:
Left hand? Meet right hand!
If only there were some person who could get those two “reporters” to talk to each other, or maybe just make sure headlines aren’t contradictory.
[Tangent: After 9/11, when the Party of Traitors was going after Jamie Gorelick (Great Neck, represent!) for not getting the CIA, FBI, OSS, FSB, and BSA to talk to each other, my brother commented that “If only there were some person who is supposed to make sure all the security-related groups were talking to each other. Such as a National Security Adviser.” He was, of course, referring to Condoleezza Rice, whose catastrophic failure in that role seemed to get a pass from Rethugs and their media lapdogs.]
WaterGirl
@JMG: Jen Psaki has been very clear about the fact that Biden is not going to have a joint session of congress until some of the benefits of the American Rescue Plan are in action.
To him, it’s not time to celebrate or take the victory lap in a joint session just because the bill has passed or has been signed into law.
OzarkHillbilly
@SFAW: Well that asshole deserves having his chops busted.
different-church-lady
And I’m sure that when times are once again flush for for AA, they’ll be the first company to volunteer for additional corporate taxes to pay it back.
Heh, I crack myself up. Just not much…
SFAW
@WaterGirl:
I sometimes wonder if Jen Psaki has a Luther-equivalent somewhere. With some of the incredibly stupid things she’s asked, I’m amazed she doesn’t EVER blow a gasket and tell the “reporter” not to waste her time with moronic questions.
different-church-lady
@raven: DKos banned that shit back in 2003.
(Actually doesn’t bug me much, just sayin)
SFAW
@OzarkHillbilly:
Well, normally I’d agree with you, but he’s kind of feeble/doddering — he IS a grandfather, many times over, after all — so I try to exercise some restraint.
WaterGirl
@SFAW: Oh, I would love to see a Jen Psaki anger translator. That would be awesome. But it probably couldn’t happen without causing damage until at least a year or two from now.
But damn, I would so like to see that.
OzarkHillbilly
@SFAW: As my dear old Daddy always said, “If you can’t kick a man when he’s down, when can you?”
SFAW
@WaterGirl:
Yeah, me too. I have a tough time picturing Keegan-Michael Key in a red wig, but outside of that, it would be awesome.
SFAW
@OzarkHillbilly:
A wise man, for sure. Although I’ve usually been the kickee, not the kicker.
Uncle Cosmo
@WaterGirl: I would dearly love to see the White House issue a statement along the lines of –
:^D
topclimber
@germy: You are not giving the GOP the credit they deserve.
If not for their swift and relentless refusal to go bipartisan on the Covid relief package, Dems would never have moved so fast to pass it.
Joe Manchin’s 100-hour rebellion was the worst thing the Dem bill endured from conservatives in their own ranks. BS from the usual PUB suspects wizards barely left a mark. Besides that, loudly losing round one on the minimum wage could have hurt us–we shall see– or maybe helped with the long game.
Most important, Mr. Senior Senator, we didn’t lose much time getting the big one done. We are on a roll!
Thanks, Sen. Wicker. I can’t say we could not have done it without you, but it’s nice to dunk on Senate GOOPs. We are on you trolls!
O. Felix Culpa
@raven: @citizen dave: Oh you grumps. I file it in the “harmlessly amusing department.” YMMV.
Oh, and 79th!! ETA: make it 81!!! So there. :)
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Oh Ben…
Comments like that raise Are-you-all-assclowns? questions.
mrmoshpotato
@SFAW:
@WaterGirl: YES PLEASE!
zhena gogolia
@citizen dave:
I couldn’t even watch it. I’m kind of immune to her.
Soprano2
@OzarkHillbilly: I might get to find out!
Brachiator
@raven:
One day, every freaking comment in a thread will be a position count.
I dread that day.
Brachiator
@Geminid:
Last month I listened to the slick Hugh Hewitt float immigration reform on his radio show. Half his callers were, like Hewitt, in favor. The other half were against, vehemently.
I’m surprised that there are any Chamber-of-Commerce types left in the GOP. I thought that the Orange Beast had quashed them.
The other day, here in Southern California, I dared eat at an outdoors cafe. A group of guys at the other table were talking crap about how the country is full up, and can’t take in any more immigrants, period. One dope also claimed that thousands of undocumented people wearing “Biden” logo t-shirts were massing at the border, just waiting to come in.
ETA: I’m also surprised to learn that Hewitt has a regular radio show. I thought he was just a bug who scrambled out of his rock from time to time to appear on a pundit show, or to squeeze out some worthless op-ed piece.
Jinchi
@Baud:
You’ve got me picturing a 1000 comment thread with 900 of them being “Last!”
Elizabelle
@raven: Thank you raven. The “frist” stuff was funny for about 2 days, three at the most. Better not to run stuff into the ground.
citizen dave
@Brachiator: I know this thread is over but I appreciate your stories on eating out and HH. a.m. radio is such a wasteland.
Uncle Cosmo
Well, duh. The reasoning (or unreasoning) is at least as old as the First Gilded Age: Chamber of Capitalism wants a surplus of labor (preferably non-English-speaking to hamper organizing & desperate for cash to send home to their families) to drive down their costs & puff up their profits. “Populists” don’t. Even the “possibly 2-1/2 or impossibly 3**” of them as aren’t unredeemable bigots want to reserve “Murkin jerbs for Murkin citizens” even if most Murkins wouldn’t touch those jobs with a 10-foot pole (or a 5-foot Montenegrin***).
** e.e. cummings, 50 Poems, #28.
***Any Montenegrin no taller than 5′ is no older than 7. Them folks is tall – ladies included.
O. Felix Culpa
Honestly, folks, kwitcherbellyaching about the numbers. People are having a little lighthearted fun after the heaviness of the past 4-5 years. It’s a harmless PTSD escape valve. Let them enjoy. As I said, I find it amusing and even heartening these days.
You don’t like? Scroll on past and share your deep insights for the ages. I’ll read them too
@Elizabelle: Respectfully disagree. Above is why. Let folks be happy. It’s post-Former Guy playfulness and I’m not only fine with it, I encourage it. People need an outlet after the sheer horror of the past years. It costs us nothing to scroll past if we don’t like it. And it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than therapy!
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Uncle Cosmo: I was skimming along and got to this comment and thought wow, the WH really issued a good statement. Then I realized it was your creation. Then I was sad
JAFD
@Brachiator: Oneuvdezedaze will find, or have made, a Tshirt with “**** Off – We’re Full” crossed out, and below “Half A Million Vacancies – Thank You, President T****”
GregMulka
@OzarkHillbilly: @Soprano2
This is why I live on top of hills.
different-church-lady
FIRST, if you don’t count all the illegal comments.
Geminid
@Brachiator: the “populists” have got the Chamber of Commerce types down, but not out. Some are laying back to avoid the trainwreck, and hope to pick up the pieces afterwards. Moderate conservative Republicans don’t like the tea party populists and the evangelical Dominionist allies. I know some of these Wall Street Journal republicans, upper middle class Range Rover Republicans. They are not numerically powerful, but people like the Koch brothers use money to bolster this wing.
The Kochs used to support immigration reform. They might want to get it off the board before 2024, when their blue-eyed boy Mike Pompeo will run for President.
Geminid
@Brachiator: Hewitt’s morning radio show is syndicated by at least two hundred radio stations. Lawyer by training, he is a skilled advocate, and was better at defending the trump administration than anyone in it. Making chicken salad out of chicken shit, so to speak.
Hewitt is well connected within the Republican established. He worked in the White House during Reagan’s second term., then made good money as a Southern California real estate lawyer. Hewitt is also President of the Nixon Library, where he hosts talks by Deep Strategic Thinkers.
SFAW
@germy:
Arschloch? Scheisskopf? Not as much panache as Schadenfreude or Backpfeifengesicht, unfortunately.
In Spanish, “sin verguenza” comes to mind, or maybe “pinche puto pendejo/cabron,” but otherwise I’m drawing a blank.
SFAW
@Geminid:
You and I have different definitions for “skilled,” I think.
ETA: 107th!
O. Felix Culpa
@different-church-lady: LOL. You win.
different-church-lady
@Geminid:
That would be chicken shit salad.
Brachiator
@JAFD:
Excellent, and sad point.
Geminid
@SFAW: I think a skilled advocate makes the best case for even a bad cause. Hewitt was a Republican through and through long before trump won the nomination, and with others like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio opposed trump. After that trump’s power and Republican power were fused, and Hewitt was glad to get the tax cuts and conservative judges by going along for the ride.
Hewitt’s advocacy is amoral, though. When in the first impeachment trump’s attorneys laid out their shabby defence, Hewitt said nothing about the issues at hand, but just chortled that the defense was “That’s not my dog, he didn’t bite you, and anyway you kicked him first.” Conservative-style humor.
Brachiator
@Geminid:
I mainly knew of Hewitt from his regular appearances on Los Angeles area Public Television public affairs shows years ago. He was always a smarmy piece of shit whose primary talent seemed to be able to show up and fill allotted air time at short notice.
He was never particularly persuasive or interesting. Little more than a conservative space filler.
Never thought much of his recent appearances in support of Trump. I didn’t know the details of his background or Republican connections, but I don’t think that his backers are getting much for their money.
Geminid
@Brachiator: Besides the pile he made doing big time real estate law, Hewitt makes his own money off his show. He’s a good flack for gold sellers, morgtage companies, razors, etc. He’ll stop to say, “time for me to take [herbal anti-inflammatory]. I could never run the miles I do without [herbal anti-inflammatory]. You should try [herbal anti-inflammatory]’s introductory offer. Just call…” He’s good at this, and never gets so mean he inspires a boycott of his sponsors.
I imagine his salary at the Nixon Library is paid by donors, though.
There go two miscreants
I wonder if any of those guys have ever driven across the country? Seen one of the many shrinking (or already gone) towns?
Soprano2
@GregMulka: Springfield is on a plateau, it still floods when it rains that much.
LongHairedWeirdo
“Spending 1.9 trillion dollars will not affect spending (aka “economic activity”) in the least!”
I could never be a Republican. It’s not just the shamelessness, the hate, the willingness to let people die (so long as you don’t know precisely *who* will die beforehand, e.g., toxic pollution, climate change, police killing unarmed people, a global pandemic); it’s also the need to say such indescribably moronic things… it would break my brain to say something that would make a person look *that* stupid.
J R in WV
LAST?
;-)
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@Baud:
It’s BOTH – a dessert topping and a floor wax