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Open Thread: Rep Green Brings It

by TaMara (HFG)|  February 25, 20215:23 pm| 66 Comments

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WOW: Rep. Al Green (D-TX)amazing response to GOP Rep Greg Steube who said God opposes transgender rights: "You used God to enslave my foreparents. You used God to segregate me in schools. You used God to put me in the back of he bus. Have you no shame?" pic.twitter.com/nrjVAgg6t3

— (((DeanObeidallah))) (@DeanObeidallah) February 25, 2021

I felt this was incredibly powerful.

I’ve been having a week…I won’t bore you with it. But I’m sure sad it’s not Friday.

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  1. 1.

    HinTN

    February 25, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    Have you, at long last sir, no shame. Brought down McCarthy, maybe it’ll wake up America. Nah ..

    ETA – Oh well, the vagaries of memory, “At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

  2. 2.

    AnotherBruce

    February 25, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    segundo

  3. 3.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 25, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    God has a very long history of opposing progress.

    Thirst!

  4. 4.

    Another Scott

    February 25, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    Really excellent.

    It’s long past time that sensible people push back on those citing “God” this and “God” that for policies that damage the commonweal for the rest of us.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  5. 5.

    HinTN

    February 25, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    May you never thirst

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    February 25, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    It’s Friday morning on my side of the planet, if that’s any help.

  7. 7.

    Another Scott

    February 25, 2021 at 5:36 pm

    @Amir Khalid: (He’s from the FUTURE!!)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  8. 8.

    Just Chuck

    February 25, 2021 at 5:38 pm

    The only concept of shame these people know is that we’re supposed be ashamed for not being rich white christian males.

  9. 9.

    zhena gogolia

    February 25, 2021 at 5:41 pm

    Very nice clip.

  10. 10.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 25, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    @Another Scott:

    And it’s only getting worse.

  11. 11.

    Barbara

    February 25, 2021 at 5:45 pm

    We live in a secular democracy and your personal rights should not depend on other people’s views on what God thinks.

  12. 12.

    mali muso

    February 25, 2021 at 5:45 pm

    That’s the kind of righteous anger I am here for.

    I’m also loving this FB post from my awesome House Rep Jennifer Wexton

    There’s a disgusting display of bigotry today led by the new House Minority Leader Majorie Taylor Greene (Q-No Committees).

    To every Trans kid & person out there, please know that you are loved and supported.

    I’ll be holding you all in my heart during our vote today.

  13. 13.

    VOR

    February 25, 2021 at 5:46 pm

    God made intersex people. It isn’t binary male and female.

  14. 14.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 25, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    @Amir Khalid: ​
     What were Thursday’s lottery numbers? Both Lotto and Lucky Day evening drawing? :)

  15. 15.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 25, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    Men who choose to discriminate against other people because they can

    That’s the GOP motto.

  16. 16.

    Mike J

    February 25, 2021 at 5:48 pm

    @VOR: An old anti-gay trope is “God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.”

    Who do they think did make Adam and Steve?

  17. 17.

    The Moar You Know

    February 25, 2021 at 5:52 pm

    There’s a disgusting display of bigotry today led by the new House Minority Leader Majorie Taylor Greene (Q-No Committees).

    @mali muso: No wonder you love her.  Three smackdowns in one twenty word sentence has to be some kind of world record.  I’m very impressed.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    February 25, 2021 at 5:53 pm

    @Mike J:

    Personally, I would have gone with Madam and Eve, but I think the anti-LGBT folks have always been conflicted about lesbians.

  19. 19.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 25, 2021 at 5:54 pm

    @Mike J:

    An old anti-gay trope is “God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.”

    Who do they think did make Adam and Steve?

    People who wanted the first woman to be Stevie Nicks? :)

  20. 20.

    Mike J

    February 25, 2021 at 5:55 pm

    @Baud: Pretty sure Wayland Flowers created Madame.

  21. 21.

    JanieM

    February 25, 2021 at 5:56 pm

    @Mike J:

    Who do they think did make Adam and Steve?

    Great answer to that question on a church marquee back in the days of “gay rights” and SSM campaigns in Maine (mid-90s and forward):

    “Last I heard, God made everyone.”

  22. 22.

    TS (the original)

    February 25, 2021 at 5:56 pm

    @mali muso:

    I will never understand why the majority of GOP legislation, state and Federal. relates to peoples bodies, sex and pregnancy. If ever there was a reason that they do nothing – it is because all they want to legislate relates to the above.

    For a so called advanced country so many elected politicians profess  views on sex that were out of date in the middle ages.

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    February 25, 2021 at 5:59 pm

    Conservatives Have Weird Hangups, an eternal series:

    Our Cancelled Characters welcome a new hero today. Pour out some Syrup for Mr. Potato Head – he saved our lives, we are eternally grateful. 🙏🏻 pic.twitter.com/pdgPstlw2C— Colton Duncan (@duncan_colton) February 25, 2021

    Click through for the image. Apparently ‘cancel culture’ has come for Paw Patrol.

  24. 24.

    Roger Moore

    February 25, 2021 at 6:01 pm

    @Another Scott:

    It’s long past time that sensible people push back on those citing “God” this and “God” that for policies that damage the commonweal for the rest of us.

    To me, the core principle should be that any rule made for everyone should be based on arguments and reasons that everyone can accept.  Not everyone agrees with them on what God says, even other people who believe in the same holy books, so that argument is BS.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    February 25, 2021 at 6:03 pm

    @Roger Moore: 
    They don’t agree with us on science or reality though.

  26. 26.

    MomSense

    February 25, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    I have a really happy story to share.  The Somali Bantu community in Lewiston, Maine was able to purchase a farm back at the end of the Summer.  It was an amazing thing to be even a very small part of.  Today The Guardian published a wonderful article about them.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/25/somali-farmers-maine
    “We’re trying to re-create the lives we had”

    There are some beautiful photos.  Jackals will especially like the goats.

  27. 27.

    🐾BillinGlendaleCA

    February 25, 2021 at 6:07 pm

    @Baud: Science and reality have a Liberal bias, everyone knows that.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    February 25, 2021 at 6:08 pm

    Equality Act passed House.

    ETA: I can’t believe it’s not the Equity Act.  Sell outs!

    ETA 2: that’s in reference to some idiocy during the Garland hearing.

  29. 29.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 25, 2021 at 6:14 pm

    @Barbara: What Barbara said. I’m so tired of having to live by the whims of superstitious fools. I left the fundamentalism I was raised with in the early 80’s because I didn’t want to live by their stupid rules. Imagine my surprise when they took over one of the major parties and starting legislating their stupid rules.

  30. 30.

    Brachiator

    February 25, 2021 at 6:14 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    God has a very long history of opposing progress

    There is a long history of people using God as a crutch to oppose change.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    February 25, 2021 at 6:15 pm

    @Baud:

    All Dems and 3 Republicans.

  32. 32.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    February 25, 2021 at 6:18 pm

    @Roger Moore: I once made a gay guy serving coffee in my local coffee shop crack up during a political discussion by saying that my pet housecat was running for office on an anti-feral-cat lifestyle platform.

    It’s easy (& very lazy) to run on bigotry.  Unlike actual policy, it doesn’t require you to know anything or do anything.

  33. 33.

    Brachiator

    February 25, 2021 at 6:19 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: ​
     

    Who do they think did make Adam and Steve?

    God’s gay brother?

  34. 34.

    🐾BillinGlendaleCA

    February 25, 2021 at 6:20 pm

    @Baud: Bipartisan!

  35. 35.

    Sister Golden Bear

    February 25, 2021 at 6:21 pm

    @Another Scott:  I’m sure it’s purely coinkydink that God hates the same people they hate.

    The good news is that the House just passed the Equality Act, which amends the 1964 Civil Rights Act to ban discrimination against people based on sexual orientation and gender identity. It would substantially expand those protections, including online retailers and transportation providers, for example.

    Bad news is that it’s almost certainly doomed in the Senate. Because filibuster. Just as it’s been since 2013,

    Also today, Rand Paul (R-Asshole) went on an absolutely vile transphobic rant at Dr. Rachel Levine’s confirmation hearing. Meanwhile even Republicans are pissed at Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Q-No committees) anti-LGBT stunts, the latest of which was posting a transphobic sign outside her office — right across the office of another representative who has a trans daughter.

    Can I just say, I am so, so tired of my rights being used as a political wedge issue.

  36. 36.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 25, 2021 at 6:22 pm

    @TS (the original):

    I will never understand why the majority of GOP legislation, state and Federal. relates to peoples bodies, sex and pregnancy.

    Because they get arrested now if they try to beat nonconformists to death.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    February 25, 2021 at 6:24 pm

     

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    But Sen. Paul decided to rant about how gender affirming health care for transgender kids should be banned instead of left up to families and doctors.

    Very libertarian of him.

  38. 38.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    February 25, 2021 at 6:33 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: now you know why black people are a democratic voting block.

    Because sometimes you aren’t in a position to be able to choose whether your rights are “controversial.”

  39. 39.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 25, 2021 at 6:36 pm

    @Brachiator:

    There is a long history of people using God as a crutch to oppose change. 

    How does virtually everyone come to the conclusion that God is a reactionary conservative asshole? At some point, you have to put this on God.

  40. 40.

    Comrade Colette

    February 25, 2021 at 6:40 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Eh. God, Ted Cruz – who can tell the difference, amirite?

  41. 41.

    Cameron

    February 25, 2021 at 6:45 pm

    @Comrade Colette: Well, yeah, that’s why Texas got wasted by that storm. God was too busy partying in Cancun to save them.

  42. 42.

    Brachiator

    February 25, 2021 at 6:48 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: 

    There is a long history of people using God as a crutch to oppose change.

    How does virtually everyone come to the conclusion that God is a reactionary conservative asshole? At some point, you have to put this on God.

    Isn’t that kinda like blaming the Tooth Fairy for cavities, or Santa Claus for the existence of naughty children?

  43. 43.

    E.

    February 25, 2021 at 6:48 pm

    Thanks for posting this. It’s astonishing to me how successfully the RWNJs have been able to monopolize patriotism and religion. I hope things like this help put an eventual end to that. I do think we need to start speaking out more forcefully against it. Like Green did.

  44. 44.

    Karen

    February 25, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    @Baud:

    Because they find them hot on TV and movies.

  45. 45.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 25, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Isn’t that kinda like blaming the Tooth Fairy for cavities, or Santa Claus for the existence of naughty children?

    Is anyone blaming the Tooth Fairy for cavities or Santa Claus for naughty children? Because all the God-botherers I see are crediting God for their revanchist worldview.

  46. 46.

    J R in WV

    February 25, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    I see where the former coach of the US olympics gymnastic team (little girls division!) was indicted for multiple counts of sex crimes against the little girls in the program. So then he went out to a rest stop and killed himself — another Republican way to plead guilty when you don’t have the courage to stand up in open court and admit you were a sexual monster with little girls entrusted to your “care”~!!~

    I’ve always wondered why gymnastic competition looks like a Jr High affair — it’s because it is all about the sexual fantasies of gymnastic coaches and management! So sick! These little girls should be training at home, and not allowed to  compete until they’re at least 18! And they shouldn’t be allowed to be anorexic — you need to be healthy and eating plenty of protein and fresh vegges to become a competitor.

    Same for ballet dancers — they need to be allowed to have a healthy normal weight, not forced to maintain the weight & figure of a 14 year old girl!

    So sick what these adults put these little kids through!!!

  47. 47.

    tom

    February 25, 2021 at 7:13 pm

    @Mike J: ​
      It’s not Adam and Steve, it’s Adam and Steven :)

  48. 48.

    Sm*t Cl*de

    February 25, 2021 at 7:21 pm

    “God created two genders”. Further evidence that German grammar is the work of Satan.

  49. 49.

    Brachiator

    February 25, 2021 at 7:31 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Is anyone blaming the Tooth Fairy for cavities or Santa Claus for naughty children? Because all the God-botherers I see are crediting God for their revanchist worldview.

    This is not true of all religious people everywhere.

  50. 50.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 25, 2021 at 7:34 pm

    @Brachiator: But it’s the critical mass.

  51. 51.

    Ken

    February 25, 2021 at 7:38 pm

    That is what that SNL skit last week was about:  black liberals telling white conservatives: you’re doing god wrong.

  52. 52.

    Josie

    February 25, 2021 at 7:39 pm

    @J R in WV: ​
      What is sick is the number of parents who look the other way and permit their children to be abused in all these ways. As the mother of a male dancer/gymnast, I was horrified at how some of the girls were treated in certain facilities. It is a parent’s responsibility to observe the activities of their children and move them to a proper environment if things are not done properly.

  53. 53.

    Brachiator

    February 25, 2021 at 7:51 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    How does virtually everyone come to the conclusion that God is a reactionary conservative asshole? At some point, you have to put this on God.

    Coming back to this, you cannot blame an imaginary being for the bad things that people do.

  54. 54.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 25, 2021 at 8:07 pm

    @Brachiator: No one believes in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus but too many people believe in God.

  55. 55.

    Brachiator

    February 25, 2021 at 8:10 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    No one believes in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus but too many people believe in God.

    Mere belief doesn’t make Peter Pan, Tinker Bell, or God real.

  56. 56.

    different-church-lady

    February 25, 2021 at 8:11 pm

    I had no idea God was a representative in the US Congress.

  57. 57.

    Bill Arnold

    February 25, 2021 at 8:27 pm

    @VOR: ​

    God made intersex people. It isn’t binary male and female.

    And even when it looks obvious, it sometimes isn’t. An interesting essay:
    Kudzu and the California Marriage Amendment (Rick Moen, August 25, 2008, last updated October 21, 2018)

    The biggest problem is that laws like the California initiative will make the courts decide who is male and who is female — and all available decision criteria create unavoidable miscarriages of justice that will, or should, dismay initiative proponents.
    ..
    [sample]
    7. You’re a man with all the normal parts. You and your wife are having fertility problems. Genetic testing shows you to be “XX”, but with the sex-determining “SRY” genetic bloc also present on some non-standard chromosome, and thus producing male development anyway. (This is called “De la Chapelle syndrome.”)

  58. 58.

    Sloane Ranger

    February 25, 2021 at 8:43 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: 

    How does virtually everyone come to the conclusion that God is a reactionary conservative asshole? At some point, you have to put this on God.

    For every Christian who says things like that there is another who says the opposite. The Quakers were very early opponents of slavery for instance. And have you ever heard of Christian Socialism?

  59. 59.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 25, 2021 at 8:55 pm

    @Sloane Ranger: What was Martin Luther King’s day job again?

  60. 60.

    J R in WV

    February 25, 2021 at 8:55 pm

    Good friend and neighbor’s grandmother founded the Catholic Worker’s Party, which still has farms and communities scattered around the nation.

    A Socialist movement within the Catholic Church. There is a movement to make her a Saint, although her grandchildren oppose that movement. Very not racist/sexist, etc. Support gay folks, the whole liberal thing.

    Wiki: founded by Dorothy Day and Peter Maurin in the United States in 1933. Its aim is to “live in accordance with the justice and charity of Jesus Christ”.

  61. 61.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 25, 2021 at 8:56 pm

    @Sloane Ranger: No. That isn’t the math and I’m not talking about just Christians here.

  62. 62.

    Sloane Ranger

    February 25, 2021 at 9:13 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

     

    No. That isn’t the math and I’m not talking about just Christians here.

    You have research? And I’m not just talking about American manifestations of Christianity.

  63. 63.

    Gravenstone

    February 25, 2021 at 9:15 pm

    @dmsilev: There’s some very…broken people in that timeline. They’re scary!

  64. 64.

    The Pale Scot

    February 25, 2021 at 10:36 pm

    @Just Chuck:

    The only concept of shame these people know is that we’re supposed be ashamed for not being rich white christian christianist terror god  worshipers.

    What part of my story makes you think I like crosses?

  65. 65.

    The Pale Scot

    February 25, 2021 at 10:56 pm

    @MomSense:

    That was cool

  66. 66.

    MoCaAce

    February 26, 2021 at 12:51 am

    @Baud: anti-LGBT folks have always been conflicted about lesbians.

    Well yeah… two chicks… that’s Hot! //

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