Trump banned from twitter:
After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them — specifically how they are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter — we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence.
In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. Our public interest framework exists to enable the public to hear from elected officials and world leaders directly. It is built on a principle that the people have a right to hold power to account in the open.
However, we made it clear going back years that these accounts are not above our rules entirely and cannot use Twitter to incite violence, among other things. We will continue to be transparent around our policies and their enforcement.
Did he really cross their line or did they realize that Democrats are now chairing all the science and tech committees?
Marcion
This must be the worst day of his life.
AlaskaReader
Trump foments treason and armed insurrection.
He is punished by taking his Twitter away.
Murica.
zhena gogolia
Oh, I was hoping the headline meant he’d resigned.
HinTN
Yes
different-church-lady
Five people might still be alive today if they had the courage to do it sooner.
dmsilev
Yes.
Apple and Google are pulling the plug on Parler’s app, so that’s out. He’s been banned from Facebook, YouTube, and Shopify. I’m pretty sure we’ll learn by tomorrow that Bezos has personally ordered Trump kicked out of Amazon Prime.
different-church-lady
@Marcion: Probably wounds him more than impeachment did.
david
Look who was out there going at it!
lamh36
JWR
“Haw haw!” – N. Muntz
dmsilev
@AlaskaReader:
He thrives on attention. This is really a punishment he’ll notice.
Rob
@HinTN: I also came here to say that
randy khan
For what it’s worth, I think Twitter’s decision was that he no longer was sufficiently important to cut him as much slack as he needed. It probably was made easier because he tried to get cute with them, as they laid out in the blog post about why he was suspended.
This doesn’t remotely solve the problems created by Twitter, but having the Tweeter-in-chief off the app may drop the temperature a couple of notches in general (once the outrage at Twitter following its own rules dies down), so it’s a good thing.
Annie
I want someone to investigate whether any of these insurrectionists were being paid, and if so by whom. The RWNJs are so sure that lefty demonstrators get paid, I have to wonder if that’s projection.
also, someone on a prior thread wondered if Erik Prince was involved in the attack on the Capitol. Is that why his sister left the Cabinet?
Suzanne
@different-church-lady: I’m not sure that guy who tased himself in the balls would be alive today. He strikes me as the type who plays stupid games and wins stupid prizes.
Just Some Fuckhead
They gave him years and years and years and years and years to get us to the point where our Capitol was assaulted by domestic terrorists. They don’t deserve any credit at all.
JWR
His current Twitter page looks, blank?
patrick II
Trump’s archived tweets
Just Some Fuckhead
Biden’s inauguration speech should include, “Donald Trump, you’re fired!”
chopper
only took em 5+ fuckin’ years.
TS (the original)
Haven’t caught up with the news all day. Last thing I read about was Pence refusing to talk to Pelosi about the 25th. Has there been any talk of trump resigning, so Pence can take over and pardon him – because I am 100% sure Pence would do that?
Bruuuuce
Five years too late. At least. (And at least they’ve done it before January 20.)
SiubhanDuinne
@Suzanne:
O/T, but happy birthday! Hope you’re having a good day and being as celebratory as possible!
Spanky
@HinTN: That was my response as well.
rk
@Marcion:
I hope not. I want every day after today to be worst than the last. I want him to have a very very long life where each day is full of pain.
JMG
The Pelosi-Pence dialogue is in Washington code between two old pros, one smart, one real dumb. Pelosi has given him the three St. Peter’s chances to renounce Trump and he hasn’t taken them. So on Monday, Trump gets impeached. BTW, this means Pence is out of it. Trump’ll never resign, so Pence can never pardon Trump. Whatever Indiana hamlet hellhole he’s from, he’s back there after the inauguration.
Poe Larity
The Social Gliberals are are quite edgey about this ominous slippery slope. Perhaps they should gather Peter Thiel and their best minds at Hoover to consider the great question of our time: “Would it have been OK to ban Hitler?”
Yutsano
He’ll be calling in to Fox tonight. On every show. Through the night.
Attention is his oxygen. All social Media did was cut off his supply there. He will have other outlets.
Ohio Mom
I’m as thrilled as anyone else that Twitter banned Trump but it does strike me as particularly of this era of late-stage capitalism that private industry, not any branch of our elected government, is the source of censure and punishment.
It doesn’t look like Trump is going to removed via the 25th Amendment; it is yet to be seen if he’ll be impeached again and convicted this time. Into this void rushes a corporation.
I’ll take what I can get.
Spanky
Hey, is my recollection correct that if you die as a participant in an insurrection, your survivors don’t collect your life insurance?
Danielx
Is this a trick question?
Bill Arnold
He crossed their line, and they know they won’t have to face a company-destroying action from a second-term Trump administration.
Also, twitter started tightening up well before the election.
Is Twitter Going Full Resistance? Here’s the Woman Driving the Change. – Vijaya Gadde flies under the radar in a world that worships tech CEOs. But she’s quickly moving Twitter toward a tougher line on speech—and infuriating conservatives along the way. (NANCY SCOLA, 10/28/2020)
I have no kind words for Facebook, though.
Just Some Fuckhead
@JMG: Pence will spend the rest of his life in the loving embrace of Jesus.
Wyatt Salamanca
h/t https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1347690173748834309
Roger Moore
@different-church-lady:
You spelled 300,000 wrong.
Brachiator
@Just Some Fuckhead:
It should not get to the point where a company has to think about banning a president (or a governor or other high government official) from a social media platform.
Calouste
Maybe more consequential for the future is the stance that Forbes has taken:
Shunning these people from any kind of influence is important, it’s something that didn’t really happen after Nixon.
Bill Arnold
@Annie:
High probability, IMO. Also could be easily investigated.
brantl
@dmsilev: I think he’d notice a baseball bat to the head, too. Let’s try that next, neh?
Just Some Fuckhead
@Roger Moore: You spelled 400,000 wrong. Look at year over year excess deaths.
Leto
Mike Flynn and Sydney Powell’s account were also suspended.
Spanky
@Wyatt Salamanca: I’m somewhat saddened that I don’t know what the hell that means, as I sit here glumly watching my VCR machine blinking “12:00”.
Mary G
Just pasting my comment from an earlier thread:
The exact equivalent of pointing away and yelling “Squirrel” to a dog from “Up.”
Bex
Josh Hawley’s mentor, former Senator John Danforth (R-Purina) has denounced him. Danforth was Clarence Thomas’s mentor. He can really pick ’em.
different-church-lady
@Suzanne: Well yeah, I suppose Darwin would have gotten four of them eventually.
artem1s
@patrick II:
Trump Presidential Library?
Keith P.
They didn’t even have to revoke Amendment 230 to boot him off Twitter, either!
lamh36
Ima just say it again imagine the lives that could have been saved if he azz didn’t have such easy access to spew his shit. Yes he just woulda went to Fox News, but he also would have video footage of EVERYTHING that came out his mouth and not be able to hide behind an aide tweeting for him.
Leto
@Wyatt Salamanca: I look forward to drinking their delicious fucking tears. I hate them all.
The Moar You Know
@Yutsano: not enough and there’s no live feedback. I’ll argue this is the worst thing anyone could have done to him. He’s a narcissist, never forget. A narcissist that has just been thrown out of society.
PsiFighter37
Nice of them, but way too late.
different-church-lady
See, here’s the GODDAMNED THING: strongmen only remain strongmen as long as they look strong. As soon as they start looking weak, it’s like dominoes falling. The insurrection could have happened in year two of his term and everyone would be standing around haplessly going, “Uh, he’s the president, what are we supposed to do?” But with less than two weeks, everyone’s just suddenly a fuckin’ courageous lion about shit because they know he can’t do anything about it anymore.
(DCL, + at least 4 fluid oz. of over 80 proof…)
Just Some Fuckhead
@Brachiator: No, it should.
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
The problem is that if Twitter applied their rules evenly, Trump would have been banned ages ago. We know this because someone tried to make an account that just tweeted the exact same thing as Trump, and it only lasted a few days. Instead, Twitter made up a new rule that people who are important enough don’t have to follow the same rules as the rest of us, and Trump took full advantage.
Bruuuuce
@Bill Arnold:
If Merrick Garland doesn’t appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate the insurrection and everything and everyone connected to it, he’s missing a bet. I’d hope for Day One, but within the first week would do.
Edmund Dantes
@different-church-lady: remember you only win a Darwin Award if you haven’t already procreated. If you procreated already, Darwin Award is null and void as your stupid genes have already been passed on.
Roger Moore
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Well, it’s not obvious that even perfect leadership could have protected us from COVID completely. IMO, it’s more reasonable to compare ourselves to how other advanced countries did.
different-church-lady
@Bruuuuce: “I must recurse myself from these investigations into irregularities committed by the former Senate majority leader because… well, you know…”
Dorothy A. Winsor
Social media’s actions are all good things. I hope they have an impact.
different-church-lady
@Edmund Dantes: That’s a Darwin award. Darwin himself has other ideas.
Just Some Fuckhead
Watching this footage of the terrorist attack on the Capitol, I’m wondering how the folks here can keep calling this cosplay.
Bruuuuce
@different-church-lady: Yes. Also, too, the Special Prosecutor can IIRC have wide latitude, plenty of time, and lots of resources to pursue an investigation (depending on how hir mandate is defined). Maybe one of the other short-list candidates for AG could be given the role.
ETA: And it frees up the AG to do normal business, with which he’ll have his hands full already.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Roger Moore: Except we’re supposed to be better.
Bill Arnold
@PsiFighter37:
Sure, but they’re doing significant damage to the insane US right. They’ve irrevocably chosen sides (not partisan, just not approving of sedition/destruction of democracy/calls for violence), and probably can be pushed to go further.
Keith P.
@Bruuuuce: I was worried that Biden would try to “look forward, not backward” again with Trump, but DJT’s behavior over the last few months – and especially on Wednesday – make that pretty doubtful.
rikyrah
Odie Hugh Manatee
The latter, John.
brantl
@Just Some Fuckhead: Yeah, screw that.
Just Some Fuckhead
@rikyrah: Sign me up.
Spanky
@different-church-lady:
Ummm, not all caps?
Bruuuuce
@Keith P.: I think President-elect Biden started hinting early on that he wasn’t going to do that. I get the impression it’s personal for him (given that DJT has been working to erase everything he did as VP), but that he’s walked the fine line between personal and professional pretty well. This gives him every reason and excuse to go full-bore on debriding the country’s wound so there’s a possibility of healing.
Mary G
@The Moar You Know: I read that he had just remembered @POTUS, and had tweeted that he would start his own service, so there, but I went to look and there are no tweets there. Not suspended, just blank and ready for Joe on 1/20 at noon.
different-church-lady
I just hit his Twitter page. His banner and photo are both blank. It’s glorious. He’s been erased.
Ken
“Your call is important to us. Please remain on the line and one of our representatives will be with you shortly.”
kindness
No doubt Trump now has a Parler account. Might be better that way. Keep the Riff Raff out.
WaterGirl
@Danielx: OT, but I saw your question/comment earlier and then couldn’t figure out what thread I had seen it on, so I couldn’t reply.
The positive/negative test comment, was that about you or your daughter? What a roller-coaster, and now in a good way. Do you know which way is up at this point?
Scout211
So this is not good. But explains why lots of social media platforms are cracking down today.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/right-wing-extremists-vow-return-washington-joe-biden-s-inauguration-n1253546
NotMax
“Our long national tweetmare is over.”
//
Kathleen
@Just Some Fuckhead: Or Mother Pence, as long as he dons his crisp SS Waffen uniform, bright shiny jack boots and cosplays Stephen Miller.
different-church-lady
@Spanky: I’M NOT A GODDAMNED MACHINE YOU KNOW!!!
patrick II
@artem1s:
I don’t think so. I just found it through Google. I think the tweets are stored by an independent group. Another page at the site doesn’t seem especially friendly listing all of the people Trump insulted along with one insult.
Wyatt Salamanca
@Spanky: @Leto:
I know of Discord but have never used it. I’m not sure if Trump can emotionally process this twitter ban without having a full-blown nervous breakdown.
Poe Larity
Someone tell Donald all he has to do is call Vlad and have him hack the Twitter servers.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
Never gonna happen. Don’t set yourself up for disappointment.
Just Some Fuckhead
@different-church-lady: He can always call a press conference.
karen marie
Hallefuckinglujah! I was reading about the woes of Javanka over at Vanity Fair and saw (in a separate article) that the fuckwit-in-chief’s been tossed from twitter. The article about Javanka is *chef’s kiss* fucking brutal!
Dan B
@Annie: The Alabama (or is it Arizona?) AG is head of a group that paid for some of the expenses of the insurrectionists.
I’ll try googling. I believe the report was on JoeMyGod blog.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Kathleen: From everything I’ve seen, Mother is horrified Pence cast his lot with Trump. But she can’t divorce him because her religion doesn’t allow it. She should be pitied.
Yutsano
@Just Some Fuckhead:
And we’re supposed to fix it. Again. Yesterday. Or the Republicans take over again in two years because Americans are idiots.
debbie
@patrick II:
Jesus, that tweet this morning!
Leto
NJ hometown ‘in shock’ after Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick dies in D.C. riot
I found out tonight that he was a member of the NJ Air National Guard. One person lost their life defiling their oath, the other lost their life keeping their oath. I know who I’ll remember.
Mary G
Danielx
@WaterGirl:
Spouse and I tested negative (after conflicting messages for me), daughter tested positive and boy is she pissed. In-house quarantine is a royal pain in the ass, and daughter is already going OUT OF HER MIND.
Brachiator
@Roger Moore:
I agree that Trump should have been banned.
But when have presidents ever been treated like “the rest of us” with respect to the media?
Spanky
@different-church-lady: THAT’S BETTER!
bucachon
Is there a national women’s March planned for after the inauguration? And then a national BLM? Climate change after that? Looking forward to a not too distant future in which possibilities are a possibility
Oh and impeach this week. Two hours debate each side just like reading the electoral college ballots. Bing bang and not necessarily but possibly boom
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
In 24-48 hours, he’ll be using the Presidential emergency system to send you forced text messages over your cellphone.
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
Would almost like to see this take place:
1) Dolt 45 resigns the morning of the 20th, confident of an impending pardon
2) As the clocks tick over to noon on the 20th, Pence, at Biden’s inauguration, holds up a large sign –
To Donald:
PSYCH!
.
Spanky
@Wyatt Salamanca:
Who would know the difference?
trollhattan
@Ken:
Hopefully using a call center in Manila.
different-church-lady
@bucachon: Jesus, more like a national women’s street party: Kamala’s one seat away from more history.
karen marie
@Calouste: Oh, snap!
Brachiator
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Might be easier if she just changed her religion.
Also, Trump put her husband at risk with his remarks. I imagine that she is upset about any number of things.
Mary G
@Danielx: Glad you and spouse are good. I made a housemate put up his tent in the garage and quarantine out there for 10 days, and the poutrage was severe. It eventually ends.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
On Anderson Cooper and Olive Garden – don’t diss the Garden. I like the salad, breadsticks and “Tuscan” soup. Just sayin’….
different-church-lady
Do we still have Esso stations in this country? Asking for a friend…
Dan B
@Annie: Alabama AG’s org supported organizing the insurrection. alreporter.com article
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
@Spanky: All Caps comes after a full cup.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Calouste:
Link or source?
ETA: I see @karen marie provided the link.
patrick II
Trump’s last two tweets, the ones that got him banned permanently, stated that he would not be at the inauguration, and:
Evidently it was felt the combination was clearing the field for violence at the inauguration. I know security will be over the top and I am just being paranoid, but should Joe and Kamala be together on that stage?
Emma from FL
@Keith P.: Biden has to look forward. He will have to deal with the biggest damn mess ever shoved at an incoming president. He has already said he will trust the Justice department to do the proper thing. IMHO he has taken the right path.
different-church-lady
@🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Don’t go all Rule 34 on me…
karen marie
@Dan B: What do you mean her religion won’t allow it? Mike Pence is her second husband.
Danielx
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
You know too much.
Benw
@different-church-lady: for reals. Kamala should be the next president and AOC after her
Leto
@different-church-lady: last time I saw an Esso station was Italy. Haven’t seen an Esso or Tiger (last time I saw one in the states it was branded that) here in a long time.
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
OT: Madame informed me that the kid gets her second jab next week and will be joining us on January 20(her day off).
different-church-lady
@patrick II: I think it was more that he failed to delete the three earlier ones they demanded he delete.
RSA
@JWR:
Totally outrageous.
It should be “that”, not “which”.
different-church-lady
@Leto:
That’ll do just fine, in an ironic sense.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Danielx:
He’s predictable, and spending a lot of time getting advice from genuinely stupid people.
karen marie
@Mary G: Aw, fuck, no.
different-church-lady
@NotMax: “Oh, gee, nobody could find the official pardoning Sharpie. Tough luck there, eh boss?”
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Leto:
Good catch – I saw one outside Siena….
different-church-lady
@karen marie: Clearly he needs more influencers talking about his brand.
WaterGirl
@Just Some Fuckhead: Who is calling it cosplay?
Dan B
@JMG: Pence is from Columbus, Indiana. It’s a small city with the most amazing collection of modern architectural projects by world renowned designers. It’s not a hell hole, with the exception of the Pence. They even have Gay Pride festivals. At one of them Hot Mike Pence was in attendance. He’s a dead ringer except he’s ripped and gay.
zhena gogolia
@Emma from FL:
Me too.
Emma from FL
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: My once-a-month church and lunch date with an old friend ends up at Olive Garden about half the time. Soup, salad, bread sticks. What’s not to like
zhena gogolia
@Dan B:
Oh, I’ve heard it’s really cool.
different-church-lady
@Emma from FL: When you think about it, the future is where the real mess lies.
patrick II
@different-church-lady:
Reread them. That makes more sense.
PPCLI
@different-church-lady: There are lots of them in Canada.
Mary G
NotMax
@Leto
So old can remember the signs changing from Socony-Vacuum to Mobil.
;)
burnspbesq
ICYMI, Dominion sued Sidney Powell for $1.3 billion ($650 mill each in actual and punitive damages), and the complaint is absolutely fucking amazing work.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20445925/dominion-v-powell-suit.pdf
randy khan
@Bruuuuce:
I think you can trust the U.S. Attorney’s office in D.C. on this one. First, it’s really good, and of course has access to excellent support from the FBI. Second, *Republicans* are putting pressure on the office to crack down on the insurrectionists (not a lot of them, but enough), so there won’t be any incentives not to do a good job.
persistentillusion
@karen marie:
When you’ve lost Forbes, you’ve lost the pertinent part of GOP.
Whoopsies
david
“fluffer”
Everyone is off the chain tonight.
MoCA Ace
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh burn!
Roger for the win!
WaterGirl
@Just Some Fuckhead: What if Trump called a press conference and nobody came?
debbie
I am quickly losing the ability to keep up with events. Is there a paywall-less place that would provide brief, reliable timelines?
karen marie
@persistentillusion: Between Trump losing his twitter access, Javanka getting trashed by Vanity Fair, and Forbes saying “yeah, nah” to former and soon-to-be-former Trump admin employees, I am having a hard time controlling the giggles.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@different-church-lady:
you find your charge plate in the back of a drawer?
karen marie
@debbie: This made me laugh. Yeah, nah.
planetjanet
Facebook just suspended the account of Amanda Chase, a Virginia Republican running for Governor from the extreme right. She spoke at the rally that morning and has been posting that Antifa is behind the insurrection. All posts and comments are blocked for seven days and live video is banned for sixty days.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/amanda-chase-facebook-suspension/2021/01/08/8a392410-51d8-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
randy khan
@NotMax:
That’s been my fantasy scenario since November 4 or so – that Trump resigns with the understanding that Pence will pardon him and Pence reneges, giving Trump a big taste of his own medicine.
SiubhanDuinne
@🐾BillinGlendaleCA:
For a second there, I misread that and thought you were talking about the creator of Li’l Abner.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Hope Hicks still would.
Oh, you meant “arrived.”
Never mind.
:)
Martin
@Just Some Fuckhead: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I get the ‘but these were clueless Facebook moms’ and sure, but jesus fuck people, they herded all their MAGA and 6MWE gear together, booked a hotel and and plane ticket, and headed off with their friends TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT.
Look, I live in a lovely upscale neighborhood where at least pre-covid, the neighborhood moms would ride their bikes or walk across the street, get fucking hammered on margueritas and then stumble home, committing various acts of trespassing, disturbing the peace, and sometime smoking a joint in public.
These are relatively harmless acts of civil disobedience that might result in agitating someone dog or causing an uncomfortable question from your 6 year old about what that funny smoke smell is. But it’s very, very, VERY far from OVERTHROWING THE GOVERNMENT.
I’m not saying there will never be a situation where this is necessary. I certainly hope there never will be. But when evaluating whether to do some heavy day drinking, factor in the potential for sitting in the back of squad car and making an embarrassing phone call to your husband. When evaluating whether to do some OVERTHROWING THE GOVERNMENT factor in being lined up against the wall and shot if you fail, because thats sort of the normative consequence of that sort of thing.
debbie
@planetjanet:
Even Glenn Beck acknowledges the mob was “our guys.”
trollhattan
I’ll just leave this here in case anybody’s in need of more crime.
WaterGirl
@Danielx: Okay, last I knew was you and spouse were negative and daughter was positive and pissed. Not good, but after reading your comment earlier I was afraid that you or your spouse had started out negative and then they said you were positive.
Is your daughter royally pissed at her aunt?
Just Some Fuckhead
@debbie: Is the shrimp in the soup or is it on the side?
burnspbesq
@different-church-lady:
All switched to Exxon, in the 1960s IIRC. Still Esso in Canada.
trollhattan
@SiubhanDuinne:
Stuck the landing, you did. :-)
Brachiator
@planetjanet:
Not surprising that these nutballs cannot take responsibility for the harm they have caused.
randy khan
@patrick II:
Evidently it was felt the combination was clearing the field for violence at the inauguration. I know security will be over the top and I am just being paranoid, but should Joe and Kamala be together on that stage?
A fair question. Security for inaugurations is incredibly tight in the first place. My office is 3 blocks from the Mall, and not particularly close to the Capitol, and in 2017 we literally were forbidden from going to our building, the streets were blocked with Jersey barriers and our garage also was blocked with them (and, IIRC, this started at least the day before). There is specifically limited access to the Mall, and every single person is checked for weapons.
That said, there are limits to what you can do. Someone with a shoulder-mount missile could be outside the perimeter, for instance, and there’d be nothing you could do about it.
zhena gogolia
@debbie:
I doubt it. A subscription to the Washington Post is well worth the money.
WaterGirl
@🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Is it two weeks after the second shot that you are considered (95%) protected?
rikyrah
@kindness:
Parler has been dropped from the Google play store
Leto
@Mary G: that poor man finally gets somewhat of a rest
Martin
@burnspbesq: There were still Esso in NY/NJ area after that. Not sure when they went away, but I remember them as a kid.
Mary G
🚨💥🚨💥🚨💥🚨💥
rikyrah
@Danielx: I
🙏🙏🙏🙏for your daughter
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: I’ve heard that, it could also be she hasn’t had any COVID patients.
WaterGirl
@burnspbesq: Tell us more about what makes it amazing work?
Jeffro
@dmsilev: there are a lot of MySpace jokes flying around Twitter tonight, all of them funny. =)
Mary G
NotMax
@burnspbesq
Just Some Fuckhead
@Martin: I don’t think a lot of people are understanding the seriousness of this. I think they just look at a lot of weirdly dressed people as being goofy white people. Democrats in general are just loathe to engage in confrontation. It should be noted that the NeverTrump Republicans are the most vocal about the crime here.
Kent
Oh hell no, he ain’t going back to Indiana. Dude will settle into a comfortable right wing gated country club estate community in Farfax or Montgomery County and ride the tsunami of right wing money that flows towards the avenues of power in this country. Or, if Trump wasn’t there move to some place like Palm Beach for a retirement with Mother. I expect he’ll avoid whatever state Trump has settled in.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
So I guess that means McConnell at least believes he isn’t compelled to act sooner.
Martin
Jesus.
Trump posted a few tweets from the @POTUS account and Twitter deleted them:
This isn’t working. Arrest him. Cut power to the WH.
Baud
@Mary G:
Mcconnell won’t be in charge soon enough.
Bruuuuce
@randy khan: I trust them lots more on January 20 than I do now. And I do hope they get the job done well. Consequences make closure possible
Immanentize
@NotMax: ARCO
Jeffro
@Mary G: was just about to post this! So despite being one of the top two targets of trumpov’s lynch mob that stormed the Capitol, McConnell has come back to his America-hating senses and decided that eh, no impeachment unless it hurts Biden???!?
And to think that my idiot RWNJ brother thinks we’ll have a hard time organizing our voters and getting them riled up against McConnell and the rest of the KKKlown Kaucus with trumpov gone.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Annie: It is odd how so many of them are on the edge financially and yet afford some pretty pricey stuff like flying off to Washington and it’s expensive hotels in the middle of a work week.
burnspbesq
@WaterGirl:
The level of detail, first and foremost. There are images and transcripts of literally dozens of allegedly false and defamatory statements.
The financial analysis underlying the calculation of damages is also really thoughtful, and will be easy to support with expert testimony from investment bankers and valuation consultants.
They sued Powell, her law firm, and her 501(c)(4), so they’ll get whatever assets can be located.
They did an excellent job of alleging facts that give the D.C. court personal jurisdiction over Powell (a Texas resident).
Just high-quality work, across the board.
cain
@dmsilev:
Art of the Deal will probably be de-listed. Ain’t capitalism great?
WaterGirl
@Mary G:
Mary G
@WaterGirl: It’s 124 pages, so I won’t read them all, but these paragraphs are a hoot:
Sorry about the wonky formatting – couldn’t figure out how to fix it.
Calouste
@Mary G: If McConnell makes too much of a problem, Murkowski might decide it’s time for a different majority leader before the 20th. Don’t know what the rules around that are, but she opened up that option today.
Danielx
@WaterGirl:
Eh, aunt is sending her cat pics, which help. On the other hand aunt offered to bring her over to her house until daughter’s quarantine period is over and my reaction was “never happen”.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
A case of complimentary Coca Cola glasses, along with a 1972 set of NFL player and team stamps… (although I think that was Sunoco, now that I think of it).
I was short three of those stamps, and I’m still salty.
There's no such thing as a good Republican
@TS (the original): Trump very specifically sent his mob after Pence, knowing Pence was a dead man if the mob caught him. There’s a reason they stormed the Capital right after the electoral vote count started – Trump told the mob that “Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country.” Go time was when they knew whether or not Pence came through and would be a target.
Even Pence is smart enough to figure out that Trump essentially ordered his execution; there’s no way he pardons Trump if Trump resigns or is ousted.
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
@Immanentize: Atlantic, Richfield, and Sinclair.
ETA: The ARCO logo is called “The Spark”.
WaterGirl
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: From the Washington post article:
Leto
@different-church-lady: God, I’m slow; just now got it. Clicking now! Also my Italian base was just outside Milan so fitting :P
cain
Much worse than that – it’s probably a right wing hell hole. Everyone there will think he betrayed them – nobody is going to give two shits about the man.
WaterGirl
@Baud: McConnell doesn’t want to be in charge. It’s pretty clear from the Washington Post article that he wants this to be in Schumer’s lap, not his.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Schumer can deal with it easy enough.
WaterGirl
@burnspbesq: Excellent! Someone earlier predicted that Trump will be added to the suit immediately after Jan 20. Was that you?
Kent
Credit cards are a powerful drug when revolution is in the air.
debbie
@Mary G:
Good to see the asshole has learned nothing from Wednesday. //
ballerat
@The Moar You Know: Wonder if this will prompt a massive response like when Imperial Japan was cut off from access to oil in the Dutch East Indies in 1941. Like oil was for Imperial Japan, Twitter is existential for him.
Ken
My understanding is that the ghostwriter – who gets an astoundingly large percentage of the sales, because Trump had no idea what he was doing when he negotiated that deal – has been donating the money to various charities. So there’s a downside.
Danielx
@rikyrah:
thank you ☺️
Kent
Which in normal situations would be a good thing because the Congressional Review Act lets Congress reach back and erase regulations passed within the past 60 Congressional working days. So the longer they stay adjourned, the longer back into the past year the Dems can reach to erase last-minute Trump poison pill regulations in all the different agencies.
But of course, these aren’t normal times.
Mary G
Any minute now, a new account for
“John Barron, PR Executive” will be opened.
Martin
@Just Some Fuckhead: To be fair, this is an inconceivable situation. A coup? In the US?
After 9/11 I went about a week on pure adrenaline, holding things at work together, talking to the FBI, connecting with relatives on the welfare of FDNY family (I have a lot – they were miraculously all fine) and then things slowed down just enough that I completely fell apart. So much so that one of my staff called ahead and asked if there was a therapist who could do an emergency intake and walked me to it.
Our intellectual self and our emotional self process things at different paces.
I’m trying to think ahead and how do we get out of this, and shit, I’m not sure how. We’ve got a few million people in this country that are completely brainwashed – nazi-throw-the-jews-in-traincars level of brainwashed. And my fear is that the hammer that needs to come down on this movement won’t be big enough to break it.
I’m serious when I say that Sean Hannity needs to be arrested for sedition. Congress needs to somehow interrupt the financial and media networks that feed this. We need campaign finance reform not because it distorts who can run for office, but it’s now clear that we need it as an anti-terrorism measure.
Danielx
@ballerat:
Nuke Silicon Valley!
Ken
Practically daring karma to strike two or three conservative Supreme Court justices dead in the next 10 days, aren’t they?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
raise your hand if you think Fredo’s read 1984
okay, raise your hand if you think he knows it’s a book
WaterGirl
@Mary G: I cleaned it up a little. The trick when copying from something on the internet is to use “paste and match style” or whatever your software calls it, and then you don’t get all the crappy html coding that messes up formatting.
Now I’m off to read what i cleaned up. :-)
NotMax
@BillinGlendaleCA
And the Sinclair dinosaur was named … Dino.
Elsewise, remember these?
burnspbesq
@WaterGirl:
Not me—but it could happen. And these lawyers are good enough that they will ask for pre-judgment attachment of all of his assets if they do add him. That will be fun to watch.
debbie
@burnspbesq:
Bet the judge will be overjoyed to see something that actually makes sense.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mary G:
How do you do, Fellow Tweeters!
and one last (probably not) hurrah for the grass-cutting kid!
Mary G
I will never get tired of these:
Ambassador, sure, but also, too, a big donor. Underbussing is fun.
Steeplejack
The fire hose of information is inundating us!
Interesting update thread on Ginni Thomas (wife of Clarence Thomas):
lamh36
Once again…the Republican (Pence, McConnell et al) are POS. I’m sure Nancy P will get blamed for their bullshit…smh
ballerat
I’m afraid we’ll be missing a democracy.
WaterGirl
@Danielx: Wow. “I lied to you and I know i’m untrustworthy, but entrust your daughter to me during this really scary time.”
yeah, no.
burnspbesq
Completely OT: the amazing Ali Stroker is guest-starring on Blue Bloods tonight.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: Josh Barro proposed the interesting notion that a passed bill of impeachment would not be the worst thing to held over trump’s head for the remaining 12 days, short of 2/3 in the Senate
debbie
@Steeplejack:
I’m beginning to think re-education camps will be a necessity.
Mary G
@WaterGirl: ‘Doh! “Plain text!” Of course!
I totally blanked on that since I don’t do stuff for a living anymore.
Ken
@Mary G: Some of those statements sound like Powell submitted statements in court, was disproved, and tried to change the story. Is that the case? My understanding is that judges are unforgiving of that sort of behavior.
lamh36
So he tried to tweet from the POTUS acct, and then the Campaign acct and twitter shut them BOTH down…bhwhaha
https://twitter.com/SailorHaumea/status/1347733051611209729?s=20
Bill Arnold
@patrick II:
It’s up to the Secret Service, but IMO they should be indoors, and separated if possible.
burnspbesq
Both the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and the Kansas City Star have called on Hawley to resign.
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: No, before my time. I know the ARCO ones because I was an employee. I do remember Mobile’s flying horse.
WaterGirl
@Mary G: I hear that John Barron guy thinks very highly of Donald J. Trump. :-)
Danielx
@rikyrah:
I console myself with the thought that however stressful things are at Chez X, things are a lot more stressful right now for a lot of traitorous shitbags.
Mary G
@Baud: That’s right, Schumer will hold the reins soon. McConnell’s squeezing every little bit of power he has left out of the toothpaste tube.
Bluegirlfromwyo
@Mary G: Any particular reason McConnell can’t waive unanimous consent for the remaining pro forma sessions or, God forbid, forgo their recess? Instead he uses this as an opportunity to screw with Biden’s first days? That’s my read. Hope I’m wrong.
Ken
Yes, but whose card? I would assume the FBI will be checking that.
Dorothy A. Winsor
How long will McConnell be the sole dictator of the Senate? That changes at some point, right?
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I thought Jr.’s account had also been suspended.
Dan B
@cain: I doubt Pence will retire to Columbus, Indiana. It has a Gay Pride Festival so is not a fit for him. It’s surrounded by right wing hell holes though. Southern Indiana had the biggest Klan in the US at one time.
Martin
@WaterGirl: Put them on record opposing it. That’s what McConnell is avoiding. Put them on record and ask the question ‘are these people co-conspirators to insurrection’. Because quite a few of them look like co-conspirators to insurrection.
But put them on record.
burnspbesq
@debbie:
‘The action was filed in U.S. District Court in D.C. That means it could end up before Judge Walton or Judge Sullivan.
‘Oh, pleeeeeeze …
Martin
@debbie: We don’t have those, but we have federal penitentiaries which are pretty good at achieving that sort of thing.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: The impeachment itself can happy Monday, though, which will limit Trump, so that’s a good thing.
TS (the original)
@persistentillusion:
So at last they have decided they will no longer accept press secretaries lying
Funny that – just as a Democratic President is about to be sworn into office.
Mary G
@Ken: I don’t read all of it and of course IANAL, but I remember some pretty scathing remarks about her behavior in some of the 60+? lawsuits that have been dismissed as garbage. They probably could’ve fined her or held her in contempt, but they possibly knew that the Dominion Machine Co. could and would bring down a much bigger world of hurt on her head, or they didn’t want the attention that would have come from Twitler’s outraged Tweets turning the mobs on their courtrooms.
WaterGirl
@Martin: Absolutely. That, along with other reasons, is why we need to hold the trial in the Senate.
Make every Republican vote to convict or acquit. For the record. Permanently. By then, surely there will be more known about everything that happened, and anyone who votes to acquit will look really really bad. Traitors to their country.
Another Scott
(via NotLarrySabato)
Cheers,
Scott.
Kent
Why would right wing groups pay these idiots to fly out to DC when they will happy cash in their 401(k)s or max out their credit cards to do it themselves?
Yutsano
Is it just me or is the White House awfully leak-free tonight? By now we should be getting at least some kind of gossip on what’s happening there.
Baud
@Kent:
Revolutions aren’t cheap.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Magic 8-ball vindicated!
;)
trollhattan
Gets better and better.
“We’ll just invent a thing that does the thing. Barron, you know the cybers–build me a Twitter that’s not Twitter. Sunday is find, but Saturday is better.”
Another Scott
Wow. Such power @jack suddenly has! Imagine what he could have done if he had that power years ago!!11ONE
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
Yutsano
Junior doesn’t looked banned to me…
Quinerly
@Yutsano: check out Olivia Nuzzi’s piece in NY Mag from a little earlier today.
debbie
@Martin:
I think they need to be set up. Civics lessons 24/7.
Mary G
@Bluegirlfromwyo: My understanding from what I’ve read is that the only way McConnell could end the recess earlier is if all 100 senators agreed, and, Rand Paul still lives, so that’s right out. I hope Schumer runs a more open schedule without keeping so much of a personal stranglehold on everything. Having one guy able to bring America’s government to a screeching halt has been bad for democracy.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Martin: Don’t forget about Lou Dobbs.
We have an honor system that works great as long as the participants are honorable. I think the ultimate solution is to codify our “norms” into law. Smarter people than me can figure out what those laws look like. But, for example, conspiring with a foreign country to interfere in our elections has to be more definitive than “abuse of power.”
debbie
@Another Scott:
That is mighty satisfying.
ballerat
@karen marie: He’s like the soulless technician who helpfully pointed out to the Nazis that Zyklon-B could work even better than bullets.
Mai Naem mobile
@Bruuuuce: a Democratic special prosecutor . None of this appointing a republican like Robert Fiske or Bob Mueller to make Republicans happy. They’re always going to complain.
Mary G
@Yutsano: The phones in the bunker have been disconnected. {Downfall gif}
Jim, Foolish Literalist
as long as it takes someone to remind him she’s, like, a thing?
Quinerly
Lin Wood got himself suspended from Parler after calling for the execution (again) of Pence.
And, he says AF chick terrorist isn’t dead. All false flag.
https://www-newsweek-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.newsweek.com/qanon-ashli-babbitt-alive-conspiracy-lin-wood-1559989?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16101609949808&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fqanon-ashli-babbitt-alive-conspiracy-lin-wood-1559989
Chetan Murthy
@Just Some Fuckhead:
(1) you don’t pity someone for choices they make, beliefs they hold, when they remain free to undo those choices, change those beliefs. Next we’ll be pitying John Gotti because he believes he’s entitled to take anything he wants, and it got him into trouble? Hard no.
(2) All she had to do [if she wanted to abide by her religious beliefs] was remain celibate and live apart from Pence. I mean, it ain’t like she’d be the first human or American, or living American, to live celibate and alone.
There is zero reason to pity her. She got to live a luxurious lifestyle. So the fuck what that she didn’t like the compromises required to get that lifestyle? She wanted that lifestyle.
burnspbesq
Doninion’s lawyers. Not folks I would want to go up against.
http://clarelocke.com
NotMax
@triollhattan
With a membership fee and a “nominal” penny per word charge for not-a-tweets (first not-a-tweet of the week free for Platinum members).
TS (the original)
@There’s no such thing as a good Republican:
Thanks for your comment – I guess he has decided to retire from any involvement in government a couple of weeks early. Maybe he is smarter than I thought – or maybe he is in hiding.
JanieM
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
LOL.
Feathers
Best use of that Michelle snatching Barack’s phone away!
Just Some Fuckhead
@Chetan Murthy: I get that. But having a huge number of relatives embedded in that culture, I’m a bit more sympathetic.
Mary G
@Dorothy A. Winsor: As soon as Georgia certifies Rev. Warnock & Jon Ossoff, and must be by 1/22 I think, and since both stock market manipulators have conceded instead of filing frivolous lawsuits, it could be sooner. Steve in the Where’s Waldo might know, it’s up to Georgia’s laws.
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Speaking of, where has she been all week?
Martin
@Just Some Fuckhead: I’m trying to think about what to do about congress. It’s clear we can’t get ⅔ votes to expel these members. I think Garland needs to arrest them on sedition charges since the normal, gentler remedies aren’t working. If we had a working AG now, I’d argue that they should put Trump in cuffs, and let them raise their objections about whether a sitting president can be arrested with USSC.
Mike in NC
@artem1s: Trump Presidential Casino, which will include a rack of porno magazines (or should we spell it MAGAzines).
cain
@Kent:
I don’t think he would want to go into a right wing gated community given that they all believed he’s betrayed them. He’s safer in a place where a lot of immoral rich people are.
Sister Golden Bear
@different-church-lady: No, they changed their name to Exxon.
There’s one a couple blocks from the Capitol. That’ll do.
TommoRolassi
@Dan B: Mike Hot-Pence, if you please
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@debbie: going over that renegotiated pre-nup to see how long before she can cash out?
Bruuuuce
@Mai Naem mobile: I was thinking Doug Jones or Sally Yates, personally.
debbie
Can’t link from my iPad, but George Conway tweeted a question asking If anyone knew who had funded the rally, and there’s lots of posts from people who have been conducting plenty of research.
Yutsano
@Mary G: Raffensperger says he’ll have the certification by inauguration day. It did take a while to certify the Presidential election so that jibes so far. But I guess there’s no limit on it?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@cain:
so a super-fancy rightwing gated community?
debbie
@burnspbesq:
Good god, that home page! 😍
SiubhanDuinne
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Well, I don’t pity her. But I’m remembering something I read early on — an eyewitness account of Team Trump on Election Night 2016 — at which Karen Pence glared at her husband, rebuffed his attempted celebratory kiss, and said “Well, Mike, you got what you wanted. I hope you’re happy.”
WaterGirl
@Mary G: I think the counties have until 1/15 to certify, then the state certifies. I believe the SOS indicated he will have them certified by 1/20.
Shalimar
@lamh36: My understanding is that Trump can’t issue any pardons while impeachment is in progress, so it is worth impeaching him in the House just for that.
JCJ
@NotMax:
When I was a kid I had a bank from a Sinclair station that was the dinosaur.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@SiubhanDuinne: I’m blanking on the author and the title of the book, but if you’re thinking of what I am, Chris Christie was pretty clearly the source. My own hunch is mother has gotten used to the life of the Second Lady, and quite likes it.
WaterGirl
@Yutsano: There is a limit. Counties by 1/15 and the state by 1/22.
lamh36
topclimber
@Kent: I think the flaw in Mitch’s otherwise awesome attempt to keep the Senate from starting out Biden’s term dealing with anything but Trump’s impeachment is that the House has cards to play as well.
Consider that sneaky little bit about the House having to appoint impeachment managers. With Trump still in office, of course you expedite it. But the purpose of post-Trump impeachment is to present the case against him in painful detail, every day we can for as long as we can. Find out who the enablers were and hammer home Republican complicity.
Oh, I forgot the other purpose: Bar Trump from running again.
When the impeachment managers are finally ready (say six months to a year into the process) they present their findings to the Senate. Senators will have plenty of evidence to go through and Schumer can take as long or not as he wants to call for a verdict.
In the meantime, the 2024 GOP field holds back because the ghost of sedition past still lurks as a possible contender.
No doubt I have missed something or 12, but if you don’t indulge in dark fantasies about Trumpov’s demise, what are you doing on BJ?
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh, good, the first statement put out by the company was total bullshit.
cain
@Dan B:
I lived in West Lafayette/Lafayette, and it wasn’t that far from the capital of Klan country, Delphi. I think this year makes the first time I’ve lived in Oregon longer than I did in Indiana.
I didn’t know much about Columbus though – seems like a cool place.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Shalimar:
U. S. Constitution, Article II, section 2:
I think that’s the passage people have been quoting when saying that being impeached blocks his pardon power. IANAL but I’m not sure that’s what it says, and I doubt the Supreme Court has ever had occasion to interpret it.
Ken
@Quinerly: Ah. So the reason the White House seems quiet is most people aren’t bothering to show up, and those who do, are keeping their heads down and counting the days until they have to find health insurance (seriously – some say they’re staying on for the insurance).
Also, can someone clarify something from that piece:
As I understand, it’s more like a confession. Very serious people will be empowered to call you into their office and demand full details of the crime, including all the people involved. If you don’t cooperate, the pardon is voided.
Is that understanding correct?
Amir Khalid
@Sister Golden Bear:
Does Bruce’s “giant Exxon sign that brings this fair city light” still tower over New Jersey?
patroclus
@topclimber: It’s not just barring him from public office ever again. Conviction would also mean no Presidential pension, no secret service, no travel allowance and, I think but am not sure, no federal funding for a Presidential library. All of which are worth it.
trnc
“And no membership refund, either. And you have to pay for shipping on your order of gold plated crap, but we aren’t going to send it. We’re gifting it to the inaugural ball. Maybe you can have Rudy sue us. Love, Jeff.”
Ms. Deranged in AZ
@WaterGirl: I don’t get the point of impeaching him after he’s out of office. Am I just being stupid or what is the point?
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Martin:
The only think I can think of that would break the financial and media networks is defamation and liability laws with teeth. At this point, they are way, way too weak. In a just world, these media networks would be sued out of existence, because their oxygen is dishonesty… its smearing people.
cain
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
It prevents him from running again.
Mary G
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: He loses his pension, Secret Service detail, and other stuff, but the main point is to rub it in the Republicans’ faces that they enabled the fuckhead for five years. Also he will take it badly, which is reason enough for me.
Mary G
Excuse me, Mr. President for a week or so more? WaPo says we smashed the record for new coronavirus cases today with 315,623 so far, maybe stop trying to whine on Twitter about how unfair America is to you? Or even just STFU?
Amir Khalid
@patroclus:
Given that Trump is barely literate, that he indulged a compulsion to destroy records — even those he was legally required to keep as President — and that historians will not be kind to him, I doubt there would be much of anything to put in a Trump presidential library.
cain
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:
I think it comes down to making companies be held accountable to the algorithms they design as well. That should be part of the civil rights law – algorithms that creates bubbles can have a drastic effect on our national security.
trnc
Immediately after Biden takes the oath, I would really like him to turn to Garland and say, “You don’t have to stay for the speech. You’re gonna be pretty busy as soon as you’re confirmed.”
MisterForkbeard
@Mary G: Over 4k deaths today, too. And this is what he wants to spend his time on.
ballerat
@burnspbesq: If she’s only worth, say, 100 grand, what does that mean for collecting the other $1.29 billion still owed?
I’d like to see indentured servitude in sulfur mines until she pays it off, but I suspect that’s not how it works.
karen marie
You guys!
burnspbesq
@Amir Khalid:
Exxon sold the Bayway Refinery to Tosco in 1993. It’s currently owned by Philips 66.
Mary G
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
Martin
Watching Trump run around trying to find an account to tweet on, only for them to be immediately suspended is pathetic. His acct, @POTUS, his campaign account, his campaign digital director’s account so far.
@cain: Convicting him of sedition works too.
WaterGirl
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: He would be impeached NOW, but the trial for conviction would be after he has left office.
It would be a stain on Trump forever. It would show the world that we didn’t helplessly stand by helplessly and do nothing.
There have to be consequences for encouraging insurrection and trying to destroy democracy.
If convicted, it would mean no pension, no presidential library, no zillion dollar travel allowance each year, etc.
He would never be able to run for office again. Which means he can’t fundraise by running, or by pretending to run.
Martin
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I think a really key component is money anonymity. Eliminate shell companies, anonymous donations, etc. Once you surface the network and the people in it, you create places to apply pressure, even public pressure by letting us write to AT&T and asking ‘yo, why are you giving money to traitors?’.
Mary G
Rudy’s still got his Twitter account, but it looks like he’s on thin ice. His tweet about WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON Jan. 6 has been labelled dispute of election fraud, and can’t be replied to, retweeted or liked due to a risk of violence.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@cain: I think that is a fine idea.
Nicole
@WaterGirl: According to Mother Jones, it would also mean no more guaranteed Secret Service protection, which, I have no doubt, he currently plans to continue to use to bilk the gov’t for money by making them stay at his assorted Trump properties.
Quinerly
@Mary G: it looks like he has also tried to Tweet from Dan Scavino’s acct. That was stopped, too.
Amir Khalid
@Martin:
Trump’s Schade brings us Freude.
trnc
@Ohio Mom:
I hope he’s been mostly nullified already as far as dangerous acts he can carry out with official powers of the office because no one will carry out his orders anymore. My bigger worry was the continued ability to incite violence just based on his cult status, so I was really hoping for this. It’s too bad he didn’t get 25’d because that would be the fastest way to get rid of him, but I really hope he’s convicted by the senate so there’s no chance he can even run again.
As far as it being a corporation, that makes sense because it’s their product, they aren’t bound by the 1st amendment and they don’t have to follow lengthy process to ban someone.
burnspbesq
@ballerat:
She probably won’t lose her house; Texas, like Florida, has an unlimited homestead exemption (unless the property is more than 10 acres). But the judgment will hang over her head for a good long time, and IIRC it’s not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
geg6
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I can’t disagree. Don’t @ me people. Zuppa Toscano is tasty stuff.
dmsilev
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: Well, if nothing else it disqualifies him from running for Federal office ever again, so it cuts off the 2024 talk. Which would be all for the best.
Quinerly
@Nicole: I read that. I have a hard time understanding how an ex Pres would not have Secret Service protection. Kidnapping risk? Ransom? No matter how we feel about him, he has info that would be useful to our enemies. I have been concerned about the whole selling secrets thing anyway.
Amir Khalid
@burnspbesq:
I haz a sad.
planetjanet
@WaterGirl: The inability to run again is the critical factor. Otherwise, he will begin campaigning immediately to rake in the money and sow more discord.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Martin:
I agree that is necessary, but not sufficient. You both want people to hesitate to generate that kind of content because it could cost them everything AND hestitate to support those folks financially. The hammer has to come from both directions. It won’t just hit conservatives, either. The dirtbag left would be in for a rude awakening too. The financial incentives HAVE to be removed to be dishonest, slanderous, extreme.
dmsilev
@Martin:
Like a junkie desperately seeking a fix. He hasn’t started on his kids’ accounts yet? I’m sure that’s coming.
Mary G
@Quinerly: This is when we’re happy he refused to listen to the daily briefings. And I’m sure part of the transition is every password on anything changes at 12:01 on Inauguration Day.
different-church-lady
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I was thinking more of a place to… “decorate”, if you will.
Quinerly
@dmsilev: Jr. is in a long crybaby whine. Been posting for a few hours. The responses are brutal.
Leto
Video (Imgur): Lindsey Graham was surrounded by unhinged MAGA supporters at Reagan airport today who accused him of treason after he voted to certify Joe Biden’s win
cain
@WaterGirl:
They should continue those impeachment hearings all the way till the 3rd year or so and then start picking up steam. This will get these assholes who were Trump sycophants to really get nervous. I
Another Scott
@WaterGirl: Thanks. Supports NotMax’s comments earlier.
Cheers,
Scott.
Nicole
@Quinerly: Yeah, I can see that concern, although in Trump’s case, it wouldn’t take a kidnapping; he’d probably tell them whatever they wanted for about $50 and a free Big Mac.
trnc
@WaterGirl:
I wonder if it was one of my comments. I’ve referred to some of the individuals as cosplay revolutionaries because they look like the kind of not-too-bright guys who were easily influenced in their information bubble but aren’t gun nuts or really even that politically focused – they think it’s a goof. That’s not to absolve them of any of their actions. They deserve to be prosecuted along with any of the more hardcore gun nuts because if the crowd was really only made up of the hardcore people, they might not have felt like they had the numbers to get into the building. But ultimately, I think the ones I think of as the cosplayers who manage to escape prosecution will scurry back to their corners and probably be unlikely to join a crowd like that again.
Again, not downplaying any part of this – just saying some people are more hardcore than others.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
trnc
@Mary G: Daniel Dale might be out of a job.
trnc
@burnspbesq: GOOD! I was wondering today what had happened with that.
cain
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
lol -I wish I knew what the number was before the capitol attack. :D
I have a street that is all Trump people, every once of them took their Trump 2020 flag/signs down. I think they did not want to face the community who would now look at them with contempt.
Yutsano
Okay I laughed…
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@cain: there’s a house I pass almost every day where they hung a trump banner from their deck about two weeks before the election. I thought it might come down now.
Nope.
NotMax
@cain
“I don’t care what it brings in, put that crap up on ebay NOW or you sleep in the garage FOREVER.”
//
cain
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
hardcore! These folks are fairly evangelical – One got a gigantic wooden cross on their yard too.
Watching the hardcore slowly submit should be fun. The worse it gets the worse everyone is going to look at them as possible terrorists.
cain
@NotMax:
hah! Right?
ballerat
@Martin: “Bye dear, I’m heading out for a little bit of insurrection with the boys.”
“Ok dear. Have a good time. And don’t forget to pick up a gallon of milk on your way back! Oh, and if you remember, could you also bring me back a souvenir or something from Nancy’s office?”
They’re clueless because they don’t get normative consequences, period. Not when they do shit like cocaine or financial crimes or tax fraud, not when they do nothing shit that normatively gets black people shot.
We both know they’re going to whine when they get caught that they should be let off because they said they’re really very sorry.
trnc
@Mary G: I was happy to see that the filing is new enough to include the DT phone call to Brad R.
jonas
@Mary G: Dale deserves a six-month, paid vacation on some tropical island beach or something for all the shit he’s put with up under Trump. I mean, he was literally down in a sewer taking bacterial samples and reporting on it for five straight years…
NotMax
Have been consistently meh about Ali Velshi, but he was en fuego and in full-on pull no punches mode the other night during the wee-est of wee hours (really was a riveting roster of guests and other live reports for such an outré time period), so expect I’ll be tuning in to his program at 8 a.m. Eastern on Saturday. Other than ultra-important news updates I generally skip MSNBC altogether on weekends since the original incarnation of Up went away.
LongHairedWeirdo
My guess (which I’m sure someone else has already made) is they realized just how much Trump is associated with Twitter, which means Twitter is (emphasis on the ‘ass’) associated with… Trump. And I think they realized that this really *is* going to be a big deal, and wanted to dump Trump earlier rather than later.
catclub
@Roger Moore: 350 thousand as of wednesday. Trump said last year that Obama mismanaged H1N1 in 2009 when around 10k died.
Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]
@Annie: Very little wondering on my part. for a long time on the right, every accusation has been a confession.
catclub
Just like the typical teabaggers. Self employed, upper middle class. AKA Republicans.
LadySuzy
@Mary G: I’m pretty sure that President Biden will put an end to Trump’s security clearance. On his first day in office. Ex presidents usually keep their security clearance. Won’t be the case for Trump.
ballerat
@burnspbesq: Thank you.
ballerat
@Quinerly: I suspect he has already given our enemies whatever they asked for.
briber
@Mary G:
Pendant point: currently there are 99 senators. Purdue’s term has expired and senator-elect Ossoff has yet to be sworn in.
LadySuzy
@cain: Reassuring. A good portion of Trumpers will calm down after the events of this week. And journalists are coming with more scary stories day after day. Today a new video that made the news; and the confirmation that many insurrectionists were looking for Pence and it became scary. So I think Trump will continue to lose support.
However, what’s much more concerning: the hard core people. They’re already talking about armed insurrection in Washington on the 19th or the 20th.
otmar
@debbie: The Guardian has pretty good live coverage and is free.
matt the semi-reasonable
@Brachiator: The phone company treats the rest of us the same as the president.
Uncle Cosmo
@🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Keep in mind that quite a few of the old service-station brand names were the result of breaking up the Standard Oil trust into different companies, e.g.:
Also,
and no doubt many more…
J R in WV
@Dan B:
Then that AG and all members of that group must be indicted for insurrection/sedition as towards the end of the definition of those crimes there’s a phrase that includes “who provides aid or comfort” to the insurrectionists.
Rented a bus? Paid travel costs? Contributed to the cause? Bought a flag?
Welcome to the Federal Justice System, Motherfuckers~!~ Enjoy your time in the barrel as someone once said~!~
J R in WV
@Martin:
And not just Hannity — anyone at Faux not-news who approved of Trump’s lies, passed them on, provided “aid and comfort” to this insurrection and the insurrectionists. I’m a life long freedom of speech and the press enthusiast, but this is where the line is drawn.
These people are way past shouting “Fire!” in a crowded theater, they’re lighting the theater on fire and trying to sneak away in the panic. Fuck those monsters! Jail is where they belong, so we know that they can’t continue the illegal and treasonous conspiracy.