it’s the greatest I-mean-it-ironically self dunk of all time https://t.co/wrJ2MrPZd1
— kilgore trout, tiny desk carpenter (@KT_So_It_Goes) December 12, 2020
Looking to be a scary night, though. The ‘True Trump Majority’ is whittling itself down to the hardcore cultists and nihilists, and that’s when things go from risible to ugly fast. From the Washington Post, “Tensions flare in Washington as thousands gather for pro-Trump demonstrations”:
Thousands of maskless rallygoers who refuse to accept the results of the election turned downtown Washington into a falsehood-filled spectacle Saturday, two days before the electoral college will make the president’s loss official.
In smaller numbers than their gathering last month, they roamed from the Capitol to the Mall and back again, seeking inspiration from speakers who railed against the Supreme Court, Fox News and President-elect Joe Biden. The crowds cheered for recently pardoned former national security adviser Michael Flynn, marched with conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and stood in awe of a flyover from what appeared to be Marine One…
After railing on Twitter about the failure of his most recent attempt to overturn the election results, President Trump praised the crowd that gathered in his honor, tweeting “Wow! Thousands of people forming in Washington (D.C.) for Stop the Steal. Didn’t know about this, but I’ll be seeing them! #MAGA,” he wrote.
Later in the day, attention was focused not on the president but on a group he once told to “stand back and stand by”: the Proud Boys, a male-chauvinist organization with ties to white nationalism. In helmets and bulletproof vests, hundreds of men in their ranks marched through downtown in militarylike rows, shouting “move out” and “1776!”…
The Proud Boys became increasingly angry as they wove through streets and alleys, only to find police continuously blocking their course with lines of bikes.
“Both sides of the aisle hate you now. Congratulations,” a Proud Boy shouted at the officers.
But before long, the agitators determined to find each other were successful — and posturing quickly turned into punching, kicking and wrestling…
D.C. police did not enforce mask rules or issue fines to those who ignored social distancing guidelines, even as the region faces an unprecedented spike in coronavirus cases. Dozens of D.C. police officers have tested positive in the weeks since the last pro-Trump rally in November. As of Friday, 94 remained in quarantine. Police have declined to draw a direct link between demonstrations and the spike in infections among officers…
Today’s pro-Trump rally in DC has kicked off with a guy who rewrote Folsom Prison Blues to be about Parler. pic.twitter.com/6KHvESKPRz
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) December 12, 2020
The QAnon presence today seems much more visible than last month’s rally, probably because there are fewer people. Even Arizona’s “Q Shaman,” who dresses in animal pelts and promotes QAnon, is here. pic.twitter.com/Usk8BEB8LS
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) December 12, 2020
This would be just sad if it weren't so dangerous. A once-respected three-star general in a parade of kooks and racists. My God. https://t.co/cQpPHyOnjq
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) December 12, 2020
Their logos are off brand Roman bullshit and now they try to appropriate Scottish attire?
*stares in Pict* https://t.co/3bIg1ZOBNn
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) December 12, 2020
It's a cult pic.twitter.com/Rrj3qlMbOi
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 12, 2020
The organizer of the Stop the Steal rally is talking about her belief the election was stolen by an evil supercomputer named Hammer. To fight back, she has brought a real hammer, and bangs it on the podium.
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) December 12, 2020
All of Trump's misfit toys are making appearances today in DC pic.twitter.com/IaCrA0RWzZ
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 12, 2020
disturbingly dystopian shit at the Trump dead-ender rally in DC pic.twitter.com/PYAVkgSc5I
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 12, 2020
Read this thread, and then tell me again how we're supposed to reach out to these people as our fellow citizens and engage them in rational discourse about our common path forward as a democracy. https://t.co/NNeCLxDXAt
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) December 12, 2020
cannot stress enough: he is a Nazi who marched at Charlottesville. https://t.co/X2aJFaMZBA
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) December 12, 2020
“Joe Biden is a globalist and Joe Biden will be removed one way or another” Alex Jones just now addressing a thousand or so Trump supporters on the National Mall
— Joe Heim (@JoeHeim) December 12, 2020
these people forgot that we have photos of jfk jr pic.twitter.com/qvRVfzbvrt
— Dana Schwartz (@DanaSchwartzzz) December 12, 2020
Police prevented about 100 Proud Boys, including this guy, from reaching protesters at the White House pic.twitter.com/ce5gi4k7O0
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) December 12, 2020
"You can be called up as the militia to support & defend the Constitution… if he does not do it now while he's commander in chief, we're gonna have to do it ourselves later in a much more desperate, much more bloody war. Let's get it on now while he's still commander in chief" pic.twitter.com/9jwFuJAere
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 12, 2020
Proud Boys trying to attack some anti-fascists. Firecrackers thrown. pic.twitter.com/ljDxHnN9pe
— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) December 12, 2020
The second police maced these Proud Boys and pushed them back they turned on the police. pic.twitter.com/UVyS3yi3YT
— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) December 12, 2020
Pretty please stop boosting this gr0yp3r just because he started some schadenfreude chant. He participated in the Nazi riot that murdered Heather Heyer. https://t.co/QhEwNa9SqK pic.twitter.com/FqYfTyQor8
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) December 12, 2020
dude I can’t find common ground with these people are you fucking deranged
come on https://t.co/rEdul963UK
— Normie Transition Team (@CalmSporting) December 12, 2020
The congressman-elect defeated @RepRiggleman at a GOP convention where Riggleman was attacked for presiding over an interracial same-sex marriage. Riggleman’s grandmother incidentally is currently hospitalized with COVID19. https://t.co/3gnOFxt75L
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) December 12, 2020
ali alexander is there in the background as always, and he gives off such a charles guiteau vibe and just remember this tweet when he does something in the next few years. just a super bizarre hanger on. odd duck. https://t.co/6ywF8GIizl
— Normie Transition Team (@CalmSporting) December 12, 2020
MAGA protesters chant "Destroy the GOP" at pro-Trump rally https://t.co/4kcG2yFMDH
— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) December 12, 2020
NARRATOR: They already did the right thing. https://t.co/RpP4yOPRO6
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) December 12, 2020
Groups of Proud Boys & supporters roaming DC streets. The guy on the bullhorn told bystanders to “get off the sidelines” and come fight. pic.twitter.com/rCboPXofS5
— Hannah Allam (@HannahAllam) December 13, 2020
Villago Delenda Est
We can get along with these assholes as much as the inmates in Auschwitz got along with the guards.
scott (the other one)
They were ripping BLM flags off churches.
I’m sure there’ll be an outcry from the right about this attack on Christianity…any…second…now…
https://twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1337939779900600320?s=20
Ian
Seems like a pretty dumb move by DC police, all these out of town protesters just waiting for a fine… Maybe the lawyer folks can weigh in, is there some jurisdictional issue that keeps DC from enforcing its laws on people from outside the district?
NotMax
The most snowflakes D.C. will see on the ground this month.
Tony Jay
I was just – just – about to go to bed when I turned on BBC News 24 and was graced to witness the overpromoted soul-void some 14 million of my fellow countrymen took a look at and decided was a suitable leader and representative of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland standing in front of a podium presenting my country’s contribution to the Paris Climate Agreement Virtual Conference with his deliberately wacky hair carefully contra-combed and his slightly ill-chosen suit hanging from him like an ignored child and I swear he took this rare opportunity to paint the UK as something other than a bought and paid for franchise of the Oh-So-Far-Right to trot out a litany of sad ‘jokes’ that were date-expired somewhere at the tag end of the last century. I’m paraphrasing, but anyone who stands there representing the UK and says any kind of variation on the following –
“I’m really committed to climate action, and not because I’m one of those smelly, mung-bean eating tree-huggers, but because it’s really important, though I’m sure mung-beans are very good and, of course, nutritious.” (smirk at camera)
Needs to be very much not in command of the temporal power of a 21st century nation-state consisting of 60+ million human beings and the sum of their achievements, but rather should be flat on his back vainly attempting to stem the flow of blood from a broken nose while fending of the relentless barrage of my boots as they do the Lord’s work of imparting a kinetic education in basic humanity into his pampered hide.
And oh my fucking God, but could the BBC possibly report on this obscenity as if a British Prime Minister humiliating himself and the country he so terribly represents in this fashion was something they should maybe take a disapproving view on? Just showing Johnson flobbaling his tired old shit amidst a montage of genuine national leaders saying adult things about important issues as if it belongs there is kind of missing the point about what a comprehensively out-of-his-depth fuckwit the Prime Minister they helped foist upon the country actually is.
I fucking hate these people. It’s the only moral thing to do.
Bed-Time. Maybe come morning I’ll learn they all auto-asphyxiated each other in a colossal dogging event gone horribly right. That would be very much okay with me.
Lapassionara
@Ian: it is probably a matter of discretion, meaning they withhold their ability to arrest, to keep the lid on people’s emotions.
Alison Rose
They’re like evil lemmings.
featheredsprite
Okay. So they occupied the streets in DC. Now what? I think some of those people are ready for action.
Amir Khalid
If the MAGA movement does indeed destroy the Republican party, it will be a tragic and fitting end to what Nixon started in the 1960s when he wooed anti-civil-rights white Southerners.
Just Some Fuckhead
Do these people not have jobs?
Juice Box
I haven’t been to a Trader Joe’s since March, but a couple of days ago I found a well wrapped chunk of TJ cranberry white stilton from last year lost at the bottom of the freezer. I’m enjoying my Christmas treat with an apple.
Another Scott
It was indeed a beautiful day here today, sunny, around 60F.
Nice early springtime weather.
In mid-December… :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
dmsilev
@Alison Rose: Lemmings are at least vaguely cute. These folks, not so much.
Roger Moore
The most obvious thing about this kind of rally is that it’s basically a cry for attention. The speakers are the worst kind of media whore grifters, and the attendees aren’t much different. Their whole shtick is to do as much outrageous shit as possible to create a spectacle the media can’t ignore. If the media did manage to ignore them, they’d have to find something else to do.
dmsilev
Adventures in grifting:
Barbara
@Ian: They are quite used to this sort of thing. They pick their battles. It was a nice day today, but things are still mostly closed. They were mostly endangering each other.
Sarah Palin is an idiot. I just can’t get over the idea that in their heads they have fused the fate of Christian civilization with the electoral success of Donald Fucking Trump and the ministrations of their handmaid justice. It’s like they are living inside a gaming universe.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
He had to resign after it was revealed he was having an affair with Яussian spy Maria Butina.
Only the best people
sab
Sheesh. Those Proud Boys aren’t even wearing their kilts right. A kilt should be at mid-knee in back. Anything longer and your legs can get tangled. What they are wearing are skirts.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
ProudFat BoysJust Some Fuckhead
@Roger Moore: For reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_in_the_United_States_by_size
Anotherlurker
I hope it doesn’t happen, but I can foresee these jerks shooting at police.
feebog
@featheredsprite:
They go back to their day jobs changing tires, selling meth and moving pianos. They are all delusional cowards who couldn’t successfully run a business or hold down a professional job if there lives depended on it.
Another Scott
@Tony Jay: BoJo’s “trademark” comments (as the BBC report I saw put it, IIRC) really were breathtaking.
And totally in character.
But, maybe I’ll be charitable and blame COVID-19:
:-/
The rest of the report I saw was that BoJo says that there’s almost no chance of an agreement with the EU now, but the BBC reporter was talking about it as if it were just a negotiating tactic, that of course the EU was going to (finally!!11) “recognize that the UK is a sovereign nation!!” and (presumably) give BoJo everything he wants by the deadline (tomorrow). Yeah, I don’t think so.
:-/
Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
Just Some Fuckhead
@feebog: Surely some of them work as t-shirt screen printers.
ETA: Nevermind, I see you included selling meth.
Richard
This is slightly off topic, but if Texas wants to exit i wouldn’t have a problem with that. Goodbye. Good Luck! We are keeping El Paso del Norte. Adios, Texas! Life will be a lot better without you . We will send assistance. We won’t let you starve.
What a bunch of whackadoodles your politicians are. Go ahead and secede. See what happens.
scav
Christian Soccer Mothers living their Suburban Barbi Townhouse Dream are gazing on these crowds and feeling O! so secure, reassured and represented.
CaseyL
If their numbers are dropping, they’re distilling down into a higher concentration of batshit-crazy. One can also hope that Covid is taking a toll on them.
The inauguration stage and the area nearby are, I hope, going to be rigorously fenced off, with lots of security around – some visible, some not.
WaterGirl
Wow. I was trying to copy this:
to say that I never thought I was see the words “who dresses in animal pelts” in an article about a current even in the year 2020, when I accidentally clicked as I was copying, and was taken to a tweet that said a leader of the Proud Boys was invited to the White House.
Holy fuck, this is all desperately wrong.
Just Some Fuckhead
@CaseyL: Fairly, the most batshit crazy could be eliminating themselves leaving a less radicalized remnant. There’s a reason Jesus said the meek would inherit the earth.
Ksmiami
Nuke these idiots from orbit. Fucking pathetic traitors. Do they really think their cosplay BS is appealing?
Gin & Tonic
@sab: You really wonder why they can’t find a girlfriend.
zhena gogolia
@Roger Moore:
I even think having all these tweets here isn’t the healthiest thing. I’d rather hear about what Biden-Harris and their team are doing.
NotMax
@sab
Hmm. Wonder if there’s lucre to be bilked from them by marketing
poodlepit bull skirts.;)
Frankensteinbeck
They were pinning everything on the Supreme Court. This sounds like they’ve figured out they’ve lost. It’s always hard to tell what hope they’ll cling to until they finally let go, because they’re desperate and delusional. If so, now we hit the most violent phase, which from the looks of things will be tiny in scale.
I hope I’m reading this correctly. It’s still too early to be sure, and it’s quite possible they’ll keep finding excuses to think Trump will overturn the election until Biden is actually serving as president.
Richard
@Juice Box: did you thank your earlier self? Because that person was looking out for you.
geg6
All the Trump flags except two, of the dozen or so, along the five mile stretch before and after our house are gone. I wouldn’t be surprised if those idiots were there. I know one of them is an independent long haul truck driver. It’s a hop to DC for me, let alone a trucker with no brains and a bad attitude.
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: They are all insane.
MagdaInBlack
@WaterGirl: I saw that tweet earlier about the Proud Boy invitation, but I have not seen anything else. Yet.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Ksmiami: Seven day FB suspension. Do you agree with our decision?
Mike in NC
Rooting for injuries…
Jeffro
We’re getting down to the nuttiest of the wingnut hard core, aren’t we?
Hey snooze media, let’s have this shit front and center 24/7. This is what Republican enabling of trumpov has bought the GOP (and unfortunately, the country) – let them know these are the kooks still trying to keep the orange moron in power.
and whew do I look forward to making Bob Good a 1-term Representative. F-U-C-K that guy.
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: I laughed so loud and woke up my cat!
Alison Rose
@dmsilev: The evilness has turned them ugly.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Another Scott: I was in DC in Feb. 1985, the temp was around 85.
Jeffro
true!
You almost want to ask them, “Did Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, GHWB, Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney, or Clinton try to keep their loss going in the courts and incite violence for over a month after they lost? No? Why is that?”
Not that they would get it.
Alison Rose
@Richard: There are lots of good people in Texas who don’t deserve to be punished due to an accident of zip code.
raven
Poor Betty, the gators may lose because one of their players threw an opponents SHOE 20 yards down the field after a tackle!!!!
NotMax
@Gin & Tonic
Because they’re sold out at the shop next to the landscaping place?
Sm*t Cl*de
Common ground? They are welcome to six feet each.
dmsilev
@Alison Rose: The ones to worry about are those who have learned how to conceal their evil behind a nice-looking facade. Ivanka would be a good example.
Jeffro
OT side note: Stacey Abrams’ gold mine for Dems – hit those apartment complexes!
Jeffro
@NotMax: win
@Sm*t Cl*de: also win
counterfactual
More fun: the Trumpies wearing kilts are wearing kilts from Verillas.com.
Which is an LBGTQA+ owned-and-operated clothing and cosplay company.
(and could we be light on making jokes of fat guys in kilts? I love mine although I may not still have the body for it)
https://www.verillas.com/versatta-warmetal-cargo-kilt/
Jeffro
Per that loon in the Aaron Rupar video/tweet, calling for the crowd to “get it on now, while [trumpov’s] still the commander-in-chief”, I hate to say it, but across the next few weeks that is all that’s left to the orange moron: encouraging his goon squads to ‘visit’ state capitols and legislators and legislatures in the vain hope of overturning…something.
He’ll also be thrilled to see several rows deep of “patriot defenders” around the current WH barricade in January, and the only answer I have for that is…offer them free McRibs, first 100 feet away, then 200 feet, etc. They’ll disperse faster and more peacefully than anything else.
Sm*t Cl*de
@counterfactual:
I have been known to wear my grandfather’s 79th-Regiment kilt to embarrass my siblings, so no jokes from here.
different-church-lady
Hold it hold it hold it HOLD IT… you can freeze Stilton?!?
Starfish
@Lapassionara: A lot of places are not arresting for a lot of low level crime so the jails do not get overly full of COVID.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Gee, hope the opponent’s foot wasn’t still in the shoe.
ninerdave
Anyone know what the Orange Square I keep seeing in the trump cultist twitter accounts is all about? Googling Orange and Trump obviously brings up a whole host of results, haha.
raven
@?BillinGlendaleCA: It may be the stupidest play I have EVER seen. The Gators had them stopped and lost the game, and a chance to go to the final four, because of it.
different-church-lady
@Sm*t Cl*de: I assume you mean in a vertical direction?
Yutsano
Semi related: I’m vacillating between calling this mad genius or horrific stupidity. I don’t exactly expect caution out of the Lincoln Project people, but this one made me scratch my head a bit.
Honus
@Roger Moore: I agree. Friends keep talking about fascism and civil war and Nazis, but these people are mostly all just pathetic clowns.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: I don’t know, remember on pro game, guy catches the pass, runs downfield to the endzone, gets to the 5 yard line and spikes the ball, recovered by the other team.
Anne Laurie
Proud Boy *says* he was invited to the White House. White House says he showed up for one of the public tours that are still going on, despite the pandemic, because why not.
Comments being made about what it portends when neither party is more believable, but I figured that could wait for a different thread, when it’s had the time to age properly.
randy khan
My wife and I were in DC today, and drove around the Mall and environs twice. When there are big protests, you know. People are everywhere in the areas around the protest. We saw, by actual count, about 8 Trumpists, and 4 of them were in the same car (being obnoxious to people driving the same way, including honking the horn when some cars in front of them didn’t move fast enough for their taste). DC police closed off a lot of streets, like for a big protest, but you could see there was hardly anyone there. I must admit it made me smile.
JoyceH
@MagdaInBlack:
The White House said that the fellow was not invited but took part in an open to the public grounds tour. Of course, White House, grain of salt, but he didn’t post any pictures that could not have been taken on the public tour.
CarolDuhart2
@zhena gogolia: One of my is dedicated to following Biden as escape:
http://carolduhart.com/whitehouse
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Anne Laurie: Hmmm, I guess I can say now that I’ve been invited to the White House twice!
different-church-lady
So, events of the past 24 hours have given me a new theory as to why the 126 signed on to the ludicrous Texas SCOTUS case: they are mortally afraid they would have become targets of violence from their own base if they didn’t. They knew the case was going nowhere, but it was the only way they could avoid death threats from their own constituency. Their reputations were worth a lot less than the price of betraying their Frankenstein’s monster.
Just Some Fuckhead
OT: I really miss channel numbers. Progress isn’t always progress.
Jay
@Ian:
Like most Police Forces in the US, ( and places in Canada), they will go into full Cop Riot when faced with BLM or other Justice Protests, but harbour a soft spot/professional curtsey for all flavours of Nazi.
They don’t care that the Nazi’s are infecting them with Covid, because they, ( The KKKops) don’t take Covid seriously, they don’t mask, get their shits and giggles form seizing PPE from SJW’s and stripping SJW Protestors of their PPE, then cramming them into infectious kettles, from Paddy Wagons to overcrowded jail cells.
MagdaInBlack
@JoyceH: It says something about the state of this country that we are at the point where I would not have been surprised if it were true.
Another Scott
@Anne Laurie:
Very wise, especially these days!
Cheers,
Scott.
Amir Khalid
@Yutsano:
The Lincoln Project people are saying, now that Trump is defeated, it’s time to work on defeating Trumpism. Sowing division in the Trumper ranks is surely one arm of the strategy, and that’s what I think they’re doing here.
Anne Laurie
IMO (and I speak as someone with Scottish ancestry, as leached through Connemara), kilts are far more flattering to fat guys than most jeans or dress pants. A nice drape helps disguise a Buddah-belly and generous thighs.
Skinny dudes with knobby knees and pipecleaner calves, on the other hand…
Frankensteinbeck
@different-church-lady:
There have been leaks coming out over the last decades saying basically this. Elected Republicans are scared in a physical way of their own constituents, and don’t want to be the politician that catches their eye for disloyalty. Even violence isn’t required. Conservatives love their anonymous death threats, and even that’s not required. Elected Republicans are utter cowards, and run away from engagements where they merely might face angry questions. So yeah, they are wet-their-pants terrified of their voters turning on them.
WaterGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Are you a proud boy?
edit: In case it’s not obvious, that was supposed to be humorous. As opposed to an upper-case Proud Boy.
WaterGirl
@different-church-lady: I think calling them cowards is too kind, and gives them more benefit of the doubt than they deserve.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: No, but I’ve been on the public tour of the White House twice.
prostratedragon
A person should have to qualify to wear animal pelts and such.
I didn’t know his name, but ran into to him a few times in midtown, once quite literally in the subway. We made our apologies and I realized he might be blind. He didn’t seem to need any help, so I went on. Some days later I mentioned to a musician friend with whom I often lunched that I’d run into this Viking fellow in the subway: “Ooh! Ooh! You saw Moondog? I’ve been trying to find that cat for months.” And that was when I learned he was a widely respected composer. Youtube has a lot of his music.
Citizen Alan
@Honus: Most people would have called John Wilkes Booth a pathetic clown. Ditto Tim McVeigh.
WaterGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Personally invited by Michelle Obama, no doubt.
patrick II
@raven:
20 yards? The Bears may try him out at quarterback.
MisterForkbeard
@different-church-lady: Rhere was literally some midwest republican official that said his house might get bombed if he didn’t support Trump.
So you’re at least partially correct.
Richard
@Alison Rose: yes i understand that. I live in Utah. I meant no offense. I apologize. If you live in Texas, maybe you can understand what it is like. You have all these weird republican politicians, just like we do. I don’t like them.
hueyplong
Apologies if it’s obvious to everyone here (or already explained in the thread), but the caption of that first picture of the MAGAt with “credulous boomer rube” on his shirt indicates that the pictured rube declined to explain the shirt.
It’s from a hilarious sequence on CNN in which Don Lemon, Rick Wilson and one other guy I can’t remember started in on these people and then cracked each other up. It began with Wilson refering to Trump’s “credulous boomer rube base” and then they all started saying things like, “you liberals with your math and spelling…” and doing so with (I thought) funny fake rural southern accents.
I thought it was hilarious. Someone in Trumpland got all outraged and turned it into a thing on their side so that “credulous boomer rube” became a point of pride, like being a “deplorable.”
Their intense pride in their ignorance and bigotry is one of their more endearing characteristics. Here where I live, the idiots are supposedly organizing a maskless gathering in the food court of a large mall, apparently in the furtherance of freedom from the tyranny of Governor Cooper.
prostratedragon
@patrick II:
Anything but give Kaepernick a call.
Just Chuck
Hey, we can find common ground after all.
WaterGirl
@Anne Laurie: In my defense, I was careful to say that a tweet said that a leader was invited rather than that he was invited.
No matter who is lying, I am tiring of all the crazy.
Redshift
@Jeffro:
I don’t think there are enough of them for several rows – the expanded barricade is about four blocks square at this point. And it would just be another delusion anyway – Trump isn’t going to barricade himself inside. Just being in the building won’t make him still be president, and getting dragged out would make him look weak.
WaterGirl
@Yutsano: I would venture a guess that the Republican yahoos in Georgia who feel they have been betrayed are not discerning enough to even pay attention to who posts an ad.
Perhaps I am underestimating them, but this is a year when it’s hard to go wrong assuming that there’s a boatload of stupid almost everywhere.
Alison Rose
@Richard: I live in California, and thus have heard a version of the “let ’em secede” comment many times from my fellow blue-state liberals. I get the emotion behind it, for sure, but I also have friends in red states who have worked their asses off for years to try to make change, and to protect people until that change happens. Look at Georgia this year–it’s not impossible. I just don’t like the idea that we should tell millions of people who haven’t done anything wrong to fuck off and die, basically, because they have the unfortunate luck to live alongside a bunch of shitheads.
Aleta
Why do they call themselves Boys ? They can’t be acknowledging that they’re just pretending …. or is it supposed to like ‘Rally Round the Flag, Boys’
Kent
But…if we put some tired moderate white male Dem pols from Nebraska into the cabinet who can listen to their “anxieties”, these folks will all come around.
Jay
@Anne Laurie:
here, we have “Men in Kilts Window Cleaning!”, (gutters and small jobs too). They are not authentic as they all wear underwear.
Richard
ha ha
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: No, the Obamas were not in residence during either of my visits.
Peale
@Another Scott: Really, since when has “Sovereign” come to mean “Strong”. It seems to me that the EU is recognizing that the UK is a sovereign country or they wouldn’t be negotiating with it at all.
NotMax
@Aleta
Because they couldn’t pronounce Jungs.
//
Honus
@Citizen Alan: no, they would have called them psychopaths, which is a lot different than the people at these rallys. And Heather Heyer was killed less than thirty feet from my office door, so I don’t need to be lectured on protesters getting out of hand.
I still consider a mob of people dressed in khakis and polo shirts carrying tiki torches pathetic.
Jay
@Aleta:
The group originated in the far-right Taki’s Magazine in 2016 under the leadership of Vice Media co-founder and former commentator Gavin McInnes, taking its name from the song “Proud of Your Boy” from the 2011 Disney musical Aladdin.[2]
Peale
@Just Chuck: It is true. We have something to talk about with our Crazy Uncle at Christmas dinner…if only we were having them this year.
lamh36
Chile CMAs ain’t shit for this new statement on the death of Charley Pride. After their first statement this one reads like their lawyers wrote it after folks recognized it was likely he could have contracted COVID at CMAs where masks & some out right refused to wear any??
https://twitter.com/countrymusic/status/1337914720897146888?s=21
Matt McIrvin
@Yutsano: Once a ratfucker, always a ratfucker. I guess I should be thankful they’re hitting candidates I want to lose, but damn, this isn’t something good people do.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: What was the first statement?
prostratedragon
@lamh36: I’d been wondering about that. A couple of obits I read made no mention. Should be said, gracefully if possible, but definitely.
briber
@NotMax:
Would that be the dildo shop or the crematorium? Just wanting clarification. Can’t make assumptions in 2020.
Another Scott
@hueyplong: Ah, thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Richard
@Frankensteinbeck: they don’t like questions
rikyrah
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Economic anxiety
rikyrah
@Another Scott:
We find nothing good about this disease ??
Peale
@randy khan: Yeah. “thousands of protestors” sounds like a lot, but in this case, it was 2,000. When they start reporting the size of the crowd as tens of thousands, it’s more noticable.
Aleta
@Jay: Thanks. But .. taking its name from Disney’s Aladdin? How do you get from ‘believes in a big purple genie’ to macing people in the streets ?
lamh36
@WaterGirl: usual corporate condolences, he will be missed, he was a legend, etc.
Folks started putting 2 & 2 together with when he was hospitalized for Covid…which was after the CMA thing wan within what we know about the incubation timeframe of the virus, started trending witching bourse of his death
Click on the tweet, the OG statement is attached
Chetan Murthy
Holey moley, if you haven’t already, take a look at that twitter thread by Rod (spit) Dreher: https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/1337791973122510851
I’m drowning in a sea of Rod’s tears.
Jay
@Aleta:
“ALADDIN:
Proud of your boy
I’ll make you proud of your boy
Believe me, bad as I’ve been, Ma
You’re in for a pleasant surprise
I’ve wasted time
I’ve wasted me
So say I’m slow for my age
A late bloomer, Okay, I agree
That I’ve been one rotten kid
Some son, some pride and some joy
But I’ll get over these lousin’ up
Messin’ up, screwin’ up times
You’ll see, Ma, now comes the better part
Someone’s gonna make good
Cross his stupid heart
Make good and finally make you
Proud of your boy
Tell me that I’ve been a louse and loafer
You won’t get a fight here, no ma’am
Say I’m a goldbrick, a good-off, no good
But that couldn’t be all that I am
Water flows under the bridge
Let it pass, let it go
There’s no good reason that you should believe me
Not yet, I know that
Someday and soon
I’ll make you proud of your boy
Though I can’t make myself taller
Or smarter or handsome or wise
I’ll do my best, what else can I do ?
Since I wasn’t born perfect like Dad or you
Mom, I will try to
Try hard to make you
Proud of your boy”
losers anthem.
Richard
@Aleta: it is because they are too stupid to be men. We use the words Dad, grandpa, uncle, cousin, nephew, son. We use stepfather. We use brother every day. We use friend. This is how we talk about men.
SFBayAreaGal
@Jeffro: I busted out laughing.
Richard
@Just Chuck: ha ha.
Aleta
@lamh36: They think repeating ‘tested negative’…’tested negative’ … ‘tested negative’ disproves transmission in a big maskless crowd in an auditorium, with speeches and handshakes? (Which are difficult to refuse for someone who’s getting an award and beholden to the industry that flew him there.) Unbelievably irresponsible and callous. But they got their show and sponsor money and drew their audience.
Jay
@Aleta:
yurp.
Jay
HalfAssedHomesteader
Already has a soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE
Jay
Jay
Achrachno
@Jay: One each?
Steeplejack
@dmsilev:
God, I thought that was a joke.
Also, I wish there were some actual jokes on Saturday Night Live tonight. Tired and self-indulgent. And Springsteen seems to be doing that Stones thing of “Can we become our own biggest tribute band?”
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Okay, slight redemption with a skit about SportsMax, a NewsMax-type channel focused on the indisputable greatness of the Jets.
Jay
@Achrachno:
not for them, for the 300,000 plus Americans who have died so far from Covid, and the half million more who will die.
vultures, ( sorry, to slag vultures) betting on and enabling death.
for profit.
Beautifulplumage
Those Proud (I pooped today) Boys in kilts wore them so they could show off their butt letters spelling out f*ck antifa. No word on who got the plum job of writing the letters, though. And no, not gonna post a link. I have standards.
Amir Khalid
@Steeplejack:
Bruce is 71. It’s inevitable at that stage of a high-profile showbiz career. I do feel for Patti, though. She’s a brilliant singer-songwriter herself, and her songs have been covered by legends like Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt, but her solo work has been limited and overshadowed by the fact that she’s a backup singer in her husband’s band.
Achrachno
@Jay: I hoped for just the two.
frosty
@Steeplejack: Yeah, SNL was pretty lame. First time I can remember tuning in for the musical act instead of the show. I muted the baking skit. And can they do Weekend Update once without breaking up laughing? Sportsmax was good though.
frosty
@Amir Khalid: Yes, she’s a backup singer, but she’s also happily married to Bruce, which is a good thing in itself. IIRC he married some model type and it didn’t work out and he finally figured out that it was Patti he should be with. These things don’t always come out right in the end, so I’m glad for both of them.
I’ll have to look for her songs now.
Amir Khalid
@frosty:
There’s a bit more than that to how Bruce went from Julianne Philips to Patti, and Bruce admits in his memoir that he failed Julianne as a husband.
Patti’s solo discography consists of just three albums: Rumble Doll, 23rd Street Lullaby, and Play It As It Lays. She also appears on Keith Richard’s solo album Talk Is Cheap, and on The Rolling Stones’ album Dirty Work.
Just Some Fuckhead
Watched the Bee Gees doc on HBO tonight. Wow. Always loved the Bee Gees. Was gratified how the doc put the “disco backlash” into context: white people rebelling against black / gay music.
CaseyL
@Yutsano:
@Amir Khalid:
The Lincoln Project put out some very good ads during the campaign, which may or may not have had any effect on moving non-crazy GOP voters to vote for Biden. (They said their goal was to move maybe 2-3% of GOP voters,and they think they accomplished that.)
Since GOP voters appear to be whittled down to fascist revolutionary wanna-bes, IGMFY types, and garden variety ignorant bigots… it makes sense for LP to calculate that finding the cracks and exploiting them is the best bet to making the GOP implode altogether.
I’m just not sure those cracks actually exist: the three main groups comprising the GOP have no conflicting interests, so there isn’t much to exploit.
rikyrah
@lamh36:
????
NotMax
@Just Some Fuckhead
Surprisingly well done documentary about the Cowsills, Family Band, still available on Prime.
rikyrah
@Jay:
Demons ?
Just Some Fuckhead
@NotMax: Saw that years ago. Used to play “The Rain, The Park & Other Things” for the kids when they were little. They’d stand transfixed listening to it.
oclib
@NotMax:
the Cowsills always struck me as a teenybopper group, just couldn’t get into to them. I will say, their rendition of “Hair” was great….
NotMaxn
@oclib
Excerpt from a good synopsis:
frosty
@Amir Khalid: Thanks! Now I don’t have to do the research.
oclib
@NotMaxn:
duly noted…. :
edit: is the “n” a new thing?
NotMax
@oclib
Merely a typo. One I’ve made before (several times including tonight), so it’s in the system. No meaning to it nor behind it other than the occasional non-strict cooperation of the hands and fingers. I usually catch it in time, prior to punching the post button.
lgerard
Susan Cowsill ( and friends) say goodnight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-fM_l2fFLA
Michael_Emmett
I don’t know if anyone else noticed but the fox reporter interviewing Pillow-guy asked him, “After the supreme court ruling what do you think we should do?” … what do you think WE should do? For anyone who thinks that Fox has found a bit of sanity, they are still complicit and fully bought into the lunacy they’ve created in the last 15 years.
Aleta
@lgerard:
+ good morning The 5 Royales
Aleta
Dedicated to You (1958), The “5” Royals
Geminid
I read some good on the ground reporting from DC by “Socialist Dog Mom” Molly Conger. I don’t share her politics so much, but she is local, has a sense of humor, and her Twitter feed and comments give a look into the thinking of a particular group of young anti-fash people. I hope she got back safely to her dachshunds Buck and Otto.
satby
@Yutsano: meant to depress Republican turnout I bet.
Geminid
@satby: you are probably right about the intent of the LP ad. There probably very few if any undecided “swing voters” In this runoff. But promoting animus towards fat cats on the part “populist” conservatives” may peel of some, and Loeffler and Perdue could need every vote they can get. MeidasTouch put out a good anti-Loeffler ad. It included 15 seconds of Judge Jeanine Pirro ripping RINO Kelly Loeffler. Pirro had made the remarks during the jungle primary pitting Loefler against bright-red Doug Collins (Idiot-Habersham). Same strategic intent as LP’s for this ad.
trnc
Hey, I know that state. I’m wondering something about senator replacement. NC is one of the states required to appoint a senator from the same party if a senator doesn’t complete their term. What are the odds Cooper would take a loooooooong time to replace, say, Burr if he had to step down over insider trading? I haven’t found anything about deadlines. Cooper is, fortunately, a very professional governor, which unfortunately means he probably wouldn’t play the game like the wingnuts do.
Elizabelle
@NotMax: re the MAGATs on the march:
You have outdone yourself, sir.
zhena gogolia
@Alison Rose:
Absolutely right.
Geminid
Reports from DC as of around midnight say 4 people were in the hospital with life-threatening knife wounds. Two were hurt outside Harry’s, a bar now popular with right wingers. Molly Conger reported a lot of drunk and drinking people on the street as it grew later. She left after she heard about the stabbings.
debbie
@Yutsano:
It’s absolutely in line with what Steve Schmidt has been madly tweeting about these past couple of days. He had a long thread last night starting with his defense of AOC and moved onto the dignity of ALL work.
Skepticat
And animal pelts are but an infinitesimal part of that.
Zinsky
The doorknobs who showed up at the “Dawn of the Dead” MAGA rally in Washington yesterday are the same clueless inbreds who have both a Confederate and American flag on their loud, black muffler-less pickup trucks. They don’t seem to get that you can’t really support both and be intellectually consistent.
They also postulate a “Deep State” that is oppressing “their people”, when “their people” control the Executive, Judiciary and half of the Legislative branches of government, again illustrating their confused and intellectually vacant worldview. I won’t even get too far into the fact that many of these lemmings imagine themselves to be good Christians, while constantly bearing false witness against their neighbors, including this bogus canard about The Kraken and Hammer and Dominion Systems and all of the other nonsensical lies the right-wing so gratuitously spreads around.
It’s no wonder that right-wing websites are packed with ads touting phony cures for cancer involving cinnamon or baldness cures involving high-priced garlic and seashells. Grifters know a boatload of gullible rubes when they see them! Donald Trump is the King of Grifters!
Thank God that D.C. is a Democratic-controlled area and public firearms are not allowed or it could have been a bloodbath with all these poorly regulated (and therefore unConstitutional) militias milling uselessly about….
zhena gogolia
@Amir Khalid:
Thanks for standing up for Julianne! I thought she was very good ACTING on “Sisters.” She wasn’t just a model.
Neldob
These creeps are who Perdue and Loeffler are tying their wagon too. Half surprised they aren’t there with Palin.
Chris Johnson
@Yutsano: I think it’s (not unpredictable) genius, but it’s also evil and ruthless. If you understand as they do how the right-wing mind is manipulated, you see how this one works.
Since conservatism can never fail only BE failed, they’re leveraging the failure of Trump to try and pin it (emotionally) on the Georgia folks. The evil part is, they’re not calling for a boycott of the election, or even saying ‘you should not vote for them’, much less ‘you should vote for the Democrats’. They’re assuming the protective coloration of the hard right, and their call of ‘traitors!’ can just as easily be answered with terrorism.
And they don’t care, because they’re ex-Republicans and they’re used to fighting dirty as fuck. I don’t think anything anybody on our side could do, could be more effective than this. They’re exploiting the right-wing mentality to get these key Republicans HURT, not simply ‘rejected’.
We’re talking about the seditious conquest of America through treason and violence, using exactly these people to do it, to overturn the rightful results of the election and put in place a Russian-controlled puppet government that will rule through terror (at least, that’s the HOPE of the Trump people).
With that in mind I can’t fault the Lincoln folks for using the traitors’ weapons against them. It’s still evil. I figure that doesn’t worry them. After what I’ve seen, I can’t say as it worries me that badly.
Wish I was a bit more civilized. But whose fault is THAT? Hunter Biden’s? No, wait, I’ll blame Hillary’s emails. Suuuuure.
Procopius
@Redshift: I saw just a fragment of a clip, where some reporter asked Trump if he was going to leave the White House voluntarily. Trump looked at him with a little smirk, and said, “Of course I’m going to leave. You know that.” He’s well aware the press is just going along with the fear-mongering for profit, even though they know none of it’s true. Kayfabe
ETA: Of course that doesn’t mean that a bunch of the crazies and fascists aren’t really dangerous. Trump may not mean any of this, but that doesn’t mean his crazed fans don’t take it seriously.
Matt McIrvin
@Chris Johnson: I don’t think we can trust people who would do this to remain on our side.
debbie
@Chris Johnson:
What the fuck are you talking about? These are conservatives opposed to Trump. Trump is an existential threat to America. This is no time to go all purity pony on them.
WaterGirl
@CaseyL:
With the 3 main groups being racists, fascists and idiots?
Miss Bianca
I saw the title of this post, then saw the contents, then starting humming, “nice day for a white…weeding”, then decided I really need a cup of coffee before I post anything else.
debbie
@Miss Bianca:
Ah, I think you were looking for the gardening thread…?
Miss Bianca
@counterfactual: I have it on good authority – okay, it’s Diana Gabaldon, but that’s good enough authority for me – that it’s impossible for any man to look actually *bad* in a kilt. : )
Although looking at these guys makes me wonder, just a bit…not because they’re fat, but just because they’re ugly. Sufficiently ugly in spirit to make them positively repellent in the flesh, no matter how they’re dressed.
Geminid
@Zinsky: the August 9, 2017 “Unite the Right” in Charlottesville could very easily have been a bloodbath. A couple hundred of the militia were carrying semiautomatic rifles in the downtown park, and there were a dozen or so similarly armed men ostensibly protecting the counter-demonstrators. One shot was fired, but luckily it not start a gun battle. Charlottesville Judge Moore gave the Maryland klansman who fired the shot 8 years prison time. One of the gun safety laws passed by the Virginia General Assembly this year gives localities the right to ban firearms from demonstrations. Virginia is still an open carry state, though.
Miss Bianca
@different-church-lady: I’d agree with you, but then I think: “How many of these fuckheads have even *heard* of an ‘amicus brief’, much less know what it means?”
Nah – Occam’s Razor suggests to me that these GOP congress critters signed it because they’re cult members, too.
J R in WV
@dmsilev:
So you’re thinking Ivanka is nice-looking?
Sorry, just not so.
She was kinda cute as a teen, but once she started the plasticization process, now well underway, too bad, so sad.
Barbie dolls are prettier, and less plastic.
stinger
@CarolDuhart2: Very nice. Thank you!
stinger
@Anne Laurie: Agreed.
zhena gogolia
@CarolDuhart2:
Bookmarked it — thanks!
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
Maybe it’s me and maybe it’s because I grew up with three brothers who ganged up on me when they were tired of ganging up on each other, but I like to be aware of what’s going on so I see whatever is coming at me. It’s infuriating and maddening, but I will not be taken by surprise if I can help it.
jonas
They’re the ones willing to let their fascist freak flags fly in marches and demonstrations like this. The real problem is the other 90% of Republican voters, many very, very rich, who think they can use these brownshirts to keep their taxes low, and if it means becoming a despotic, illiberal democracy like Hungary, well, they can live with that.
jonas
Some, sure. Others signed on because their staff told them Trump would be taking names and if they didn’t want to get shit on with a mean tweet come next primary season, they’d better step up. It’s a sure sign the vast majority of Republican politicians understand who their daddy is for the forseeable future, even after he’s out of the White House. There is no more GOP. There is only Trump.
stinger
Thank you for putting this into words that I’ve been unable to find for myself.
SFAW
@NotMax:
Was it supposed to be “NotManx”?
debbie
Fair warning on the included video:
SFAW
@debbie:
You realize that “fair warning” is a catnip phrase? And now, my brain — or what’s left of it — needs a bleach bath. Or, if I were Ozark, a Blech bath.
Damn you.
Another Scott
@debbie:
[ Warning – there’s a photo. ]
Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
Cheers,
Scott.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: The Lexus commercial was well done. But, as you say, too much like real life.
Cheers,
Scott.
Another Scott
@oclib:
Indian Lake is the just-about-perfect 3 minute pop song.
Cheers,
Scott.
Zinsky
@Another Scott: The so-called Proud Boys are clearly not dealing well with their latent homosexual tendencies.
debbie
@Another Scott:
Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop! ?s all!
artem1s
@Chris Johnson:
It works by perpetuating the hatred and fear of ‘the other’ that the GOP has used for decades. It’s not genius; it’s the same tools used in the Southern Strategy and the Koch Brothers to instill the idea that Obamacare is bad for you and the government should keep their hands off my Medicare. LP is Saruman trying to convince themselves that they can use the tools of darkness for good and they won’t be affected by it. They aren’t the shepherd, and they aren’t righteous men. The LP are promoting the tyranny of evil men and taking advantage of the ignorance of the weak just as much as Trump is.
BTW, this ad does nothing to help dismantle GOP Trumpism that believes the election was stolen. It only flames the fire of those who will respond to Twittler’s commands to commit violence to overturn the GA election results. It’s a dangerous and stupid ad that will put those who worked with Stacy Abrams to flip GA at risk in this runoff election. And more like it could undo the progress towards reversing years of voter suppression.
Another Scott
Meanwhile, in Texas… JuanitaJean:
Heh.
Seriously, these monsters know that they cannot win fair elections and have no agenda except standing of the way of progress. We have to fight them every single day, and be clear-eyed about what we’re up against.
Cheers,
Scott.
sab
@Miss Bianca: They might look better if they wore them like kilts. Length mid-knee, belt at waist, not slung below the paunch.
louc
I live near the Supreme Court and Capitol and went for a walk — I assumed — after the Magat events were over yesterday. Nope, there was a (smallish) crowd in front of the Supreme Court. I saw more people crowding that area after RBG died.
I walked up the steps of the Library of Congress some distance away (because the A-holes won’t mask) to watch for about two minutes.
Some lunatic following Michael Flynn was rattling on about how he analyzes data and there was no way Joe Biden could have won statistically in Georgia or whatever. That’s all I could tolerate.
Does anyone know why Trump people would fly the South Vietnamese heritage flag? These folks didn’t look Vietnamese.
susanna
@Richard: I like this comment.