I really wish Corn Pop could be here to see this. He would have cut a great Biden ad, lol.
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PsiFighter37
I would just declare victory, say the transition is beginning, and mic drop.
Of course that will not happen, but one can dream. Hopefully they do make clear that they are beginning to start planning the transition so they can hit the ground running. In fact, I would be earnestly vetting choices right now. If Trump decides to try and drag this out to the bitter end, with no formal concession, it would be foolish to wait a second longer.
Look on the bright side. As agonizingly slow as we find the counting, imagine what Trump and his crew are going through. Let the schadenfreude flow through you.
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mrmoshpotato
I’ll continue listening to tonight’s Professional Left podcast while waiting.
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Matt McIrvin
@dmsilev: They’re the ones slowing it down! If they want to rip the band-aid off fast it’s easy.
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LurkerNoLonger
It would be funny if Trump is sitting there watching an empty podium. Oh how the reverses have rolled!
It’s not widely-known, but when Biden was a teenager, he cut a bro. I mean, really, seriously hurt the guy. That guy’s name is Corn Pop.
/S
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M31
Corn Pop was a ‘gang leader’ (read, teen-aged troublemaker) who tried to sneak in the pool where 19-year old Joe Biden was the lifeguard. Joe used the anecdote to talk about his long history with the black community, and got some flack for the story, both for ‘portraying blacks in a bad light’ and making the whole thing up. But it turned out there was a gang and Corn Pop was real, lol, though he died a while back. Post story
I’m starting to get cranky toward the networks. They have no business calling these races anyway. Hopefully this clusterfuck, like the caucus clusterfuck in the Iowa primaries, will be the end of this nonsense.
Either call all the races when you reach a certain statistical probability, or don’t call any of them until the remaining votes, if all of them went to just one candidate, cannot change the outcome of the race.
Nasrudin was caught in the act and sentenced to die. Hauled up before the king, he was asked by the Royal Presence: “Is there any reason at all why I shouldn’t have your head off right now?” To which he replied: “Oh, King, live forever! Know that I, the mullah Nasrudin, am the greatest teacher in your kingdom, and it would surely be a waste to kill such a great teacher. So skilled am I that I could even teach your favorite horse to sing, given a year to work on it.” The king was amused, and said: “Very well then, you move into the stable immediately, and if the horse isn’t singing a year from now, we’ll think of something interesting to do with you.”
As he was returning to his cell to pick up his spare rags, his cellmate remonstrated with him: “Now that was really stupid. You know you can’t teach that horse to sing, no matter how long you try.” Nasrudin’s response: “Not at all. I have a year now that I didn’t have before. And a lot of things can happen in a year. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die.
“And, who knows? Maybe the horse will sing.”
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Eunicecycle
My granddaughter was scrolling on her mom’s phone and saw a Facebook meme that was comparing Trump with the Flyer’s mascot Gritty. She thought Trump looked like a scary man, but Gritty was cute. She’s 3.
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M31
The only thing better would be if Trump were giving a speech right now and the networks were all showing the empty Biden podium
@Zzyzx: I may not be following every update but compared to the last one I have on my computer there were 9224 votes and Biden got 7326 of them. 79% of them. I don’t know where they are but if it wasn’t Philadelphia that’s a far higher % than he got in any other county.
It’s over. End it.
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Chetan Murthy
@Eunicecycle: Gritty has big eyes. That alone, is enough to make him cuter than Shitlord.
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Steeplejack
More (possibly interesting) filler (thread):
There is something distinctly American about Biden’s campaign HQ. The parking lot, temporary Halloween store aesthetic of the convention center comes off as more honest than any beer commercial nostalgia for steel mills and red barns.
@Baud: Their live feed has now been up for 2 hours. I’m guessing they are really close to some arbitrary cutoff where the networks will call a state that will end this.
And they think, just a few more minutes, jus ta few more minutes…
I’ve been wondering if the states deliberately alternate announcements from red and blue counties, when it’s got data from both, to avoid creating an artificial impression of a dramatic turnaround in the count. It seems almost like it, judging from the drops from PA and GA.
Kormacki seemed frustrated that they’re not calling PA and NV.
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mrmoshpotato
I could go for some beer cheese and crackers about now.
I blame Chef John.
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Matt McIrvin
@James E Powell: It’s partly because the early provisionals were very Trumpy, but that was because they were coming from red counties.
And I think they’re getting pressure from above to not say anything that sounds too much like calling the race, until they’re insanely sure, because management is still scared of Trump and also extremely risk-averse.
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James E Powell
This is from DJ Quinlan @djquinlan – the guy on the ground in AZ
Arizona Vote Update: November 6th Context Edition
165,878 ballots tabulated today. 169,182 remaining (91k Maricopa). Trump received 53.77% of the votes today. It is not enough. He now needs 58.82% of the remaining ballots.
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germy
Nate Silver just said there’s a one in twenty thousand chance Trump takes PA
They’re all giggling, along with Christ Christie. They’ve having a grand time joshing with each other.
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mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Fix your typo about the election madman. :)
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Kattails
Various pundits, the Hoarse Whisperer among them, are getting pissed off because every hour that goes by without the networks calling it for Biden is an hour the Republicans have to stir up shit and try to delegitimize the votes. Taking a peek around the twitter feeds, I’m inclined to agree.
Then there’s Rhode Island, where a batch of Trumpublicans are demanding a recount. Biden won by (squints at screen) 102,904. Sure, let’s blow $3 million on a recount *snort*
And while we’re at it Steve Bannon’s lawyer has quit after the little “behead Dr. Fauci” bit of self-expression from Steve. This may have been mentioned but I’m still back with Bongo Cat from this morning, trying to fucking get some work done.
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M31
look at those red, white, and blue pickup trucks in front of the stage — right now Trump is saying “vroom vroom” really softly under his breath while a tear rolls down his cheek
@germy: They could be giggling from being overtired. Last time I stayed up most of the night playing canasta we were giggling fools by the end. But we had to finish the game.
The one upside to this thing being dragged out is that with each passing hour, Trump is becoming more and more miserable. This neanderthal has caused enormous pain and suffering to millions of people so I’m glad he’s furious. His fat ass is getting removed from the White House on January 20th and then hopefully he’ll end up in the slammer in the not to distant future.
Please either make the calls you would normally make, or make an announcement that this year is just too weird and say that you won’t be calling any further states.
Signed,
Fuck you, grow a pair.
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Sab
@different-church-lady: If you turned your caps off no one would know. I don’t know if that would be a good thing. Probably not.
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guachi
This is so bad it’s like when I was a kid in Baskin Robbins and couldn’t choose what flavor of ice cream I wanted and everyone knew I was going to choose French Vanilla on a sugar cone.
ABC with George Steph and pals, they’ve basically admitted Trump can’t win, but they’re all sitting around refusing to call it.
They have less and less to say. They keep cutting to commercials, and then returning with more map analysis. But they’re giggling and now George just said Biden/Harris will be speaking within the next hour. They’ll return for it.
Okay, ABC just cut back to “Shark Tank” which I am turning off. Same producer as Trump’s Apprentice.
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different-church-lady
@Sab: I GOOTTTA BEEEEE MEEEEEEEEE…. I GOTTTTTTA BEEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE…..
@WaterGirl: Yeah I was feeling generous at first, but now I’ve reach a point where I think the networks need to treat this race like any other race they call. And just call it.
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germy
Switched to CBS Election Headquarters with Nora O’Donnell.
“The path to the presidency is becoming clearer” she says. “But not decisive enough for us to declare a winner.”
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Sab
@Ohio Mom: Why are empty stages bad for us but empty podiums good for Trump. Someone is watching ( albeit very bored.) But they could be watching elsewhere.
@Baud: so that’s why I can’t begrudge. This IS a weird year and the delta was indeed very narrow. I don’t think there will be much damage from calling tomorrow instead of today.
The last batch of PA votes when something like 7 to 1 to Biden. They weren’t even mail-in…they were provisional, military, overseas, etc. They were from Allegheny so, yeah, Dem country, but let’s call the freaking thing.
They all just want to make Fox call it first, don’t they? And the AZ drip-drop is making that take forever
ETA: 7K to 1K…I don’t feel like doing the math to figure out the actual ratio.
@NotMax: Yesterday night was my last big freak out because I saw the numbers moving but what still had the fear of what if they don’t move quite enough to get us over the top.
I can see the difference between, “We all know this is going to be the result,” and actually seeing that it IS the result.
@germy: That’s ridiculous. Since when does he know math?
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planetjanet
So I went into a media blackout to get through the stress after the polls closed on Tuesday. Only slowly ventured back onto this site a couple of hours ago. I have only been looking at the national campaign’s slack channel for volunteers to see updates. I was part of the textbanking campaign. Just saw a post on slack that the speech should start about 10:20 or 10:30 EST. Fingers crossed.
We’ll be relieved,, but he’s going to be at least as miserable!e after they call it. He’s not sane and will insist it can be fixed and call everyone traitors and the repressed possibility of jail will bubble up more and more assertively. He is going to be in hell because for the first time since he hit his teacher in second grade he won’t be able to bully his version of reality onto his surroundings He is going to be in tremendous pain. Good.
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OGLiberal
No expert is saying this but seeing folks on the twitters saying that the nets are worried about pissing off Trump by calling it (correctly) too early. Why?
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different-church-lady
@planetjanet: It’s like best Rip Van Winkle experience ever, right?
Mr. Praline: No, he didn’t, that was you hitting the cage!
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Yarrow
I think they’re doing the same thing as last night – not calling it at night because drunk, angry people with guns are ready to cause some chaos. They should call it at 6:00 a.m. on Saturday morning. It would all be done by the time those hungover people woke up.
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Kattails
I would just like to say fuck the fucking electoral college.
I mean this literally. Every additional hour increases the efficacy of Trump’s campaign to delegitimize the election and every additional hour increases the risk of violence. I don’t know how that should influence calls, but decisions should at least be informed by the reality.
The way I look at it at this point is that the actual reporters and journalists have crunched the numbers and called all of the remaining states. They have done their duty. I am content. The poll workers in turn are doing their jobs and finishing up the last of the counting. This is fine.
The gatekeepers on TV are filling time by re-enacting Geraldo Rivera’s opening of the Al Capone vault, speculating about how Trump might pull off a comeback, while delaying the actual news story that everyone is waiting to tune in for.
All righty then.
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NotMax
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Because those “folks on the twitters” are stoopid.
SATSQ.
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hueyplong
I’m not going to spent the whole night watching Kornacki write “100” on that board and pretend that 3/4 of provisional voters in PA are GOPers.
Crossword done. 10 minutes, not bad for an NYT Saturday.
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different-church-lady
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: BITCH, I GOT SIMPLE, 2:1, RICH AND HOMEMADE GRENADINE FILLING UP THE CRISPER DRAWER, AND PEYCHAUD’S, ORANGE, LEMON, GRAPEFRUIT, PEACH, AND AZTEC CHOCOLATE IN A DEDICATED BITTERS CABINET SO… Uh… I’m not even sure about the so part right now…
@WaterGirl: Most people are paying no attention to it. He’s not declaring victory. It’ll just be another “we’re calming watching the count” speech. Yawn. It’s not a good look or bad look. It just is.
If Joe is leaving his house, where is Kamala? Not with Joe? In some hotel room, just waiting? Surely not.
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Ksmiami
@Kattails: it would be better for everyone if it was eliminated- it would force moderation and trying to appeal to more people not less
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germy
A friend of Trump’s tells me: “He’s the most insecure, afraid person ever… he sabotages himself constantly because he hates himself and wants out. He’s always trying to hurt himself. That guy commits more self-harm than anyone I’ve ever encountered.” https://t.co/pTwvGnOjiH— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) November 7, 2020
@WaterGirl: made one this weekend when I was thinking it would be called:
Glide II – Phish [1]
Looks Like We Made It – Barry Manilow
Midnight Train to Georgia – the Indigo Girls cover
Philadelphia Freedom – Elton John
Rock’n’ Me – Steve Miller Band
Everything’s Right – Phish [2]
Volunteers – Jefferson Airplane [3]
Red Rubber Ball – The Cyrkle
The Flesh Failures (Let the Sunshine In) – Hair Soundtrack
[1] Lyrics “Gliiiiiiiide. Flip flip flip flip. It’s time” Seemed apropos
[2] “The long night’s over and the sun’s coming up”
[3] For Grace Slick’s “A new dawn’s coming” rant.
@germy: That’s some friend! Doesn’t help you, talks behind your back. Trump does not have a single friend.
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germy
President Trump has been suggesting he doesn't believe his legal team is up to the task of defending him in the courts and asking for his team to find better lawyers, according to a person who has spoken to him https://t.co/eIhcolWv4k— CNN (@CNN) November 7, 2020
In brighter news, Lauren Underwood has pulled ahead in her race – seems like she will pull it out after all. Means we held onto our 2 Illinois pickups from last year.
“He wants to lose. He’s out of money. He worries about being arrested. He worried about being assassinated. It hasn’t been a great experience for him … the actual day-to-day business of being president? It’s been pretty unpleasant for him.” https://t.co/nC9yFdSSoM— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 7, 2020
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Steeplejack
Brian Williams: Biden motorcade arriving at the venue! And there’s video; he’s correct.
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MisterForkbeard
@CaseyL: I think this is sort of what’s happening. The networks keep telling Joe/Kamala that the race is going to be called “soon” and have been telling them that for hours while they fuck around.
Joe wants to do a victory speech but cant because the networks just refuse to put this thing to bed.
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SiubhanDuinne
Biden’s motorcade has arrived at the venue!
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dmsilev
@James E Powell: The really serious speed-solvers leave me in the dust.
I just watched the Allegheny Co., PA guy come out to give the latest vote dump totals. Only a few thousand. Over 75% for Biden. They guy looks like he needs a 3-month vacation after this…and I’m sure the folks doing the actual counting could use it as well. Likely a thankless job in normal time. With all these mailed in ballots and the threat of Rudy – as incompetent as he is but don’t want to give him anything – lurking? Respect these folks.
@germy: Sounds like every other project the weasel was in charge of. He’d go to a couple of meetings, emit some buzzwords, and leave the actual work to everyone else,
Trump is racing to raise money for an “official election defense fund.” But the fine print on the solicitations tells a different story: Half — or more — of any contribution will be used to retire debt from his re-election campaign. @bykowicz https://t.co/pdbmDpelPs
They are up to 47k watchers from 29k who were watching the video an hour ago.
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dmsilev
@OGLiberal: The NYT had a story about a vote counter in Atlanta who had to go into hiding because of death threats because some viral-video nonsense falsely accused him of throwing away some ballots.
If nothing else, treating white-guy terrorism with kid gloves has to stop.
@WaterGirl: Yes. Alternative at #199, with an echo.
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germy
I am grudgingly impressed by the ability of American newsmedia to continue horse race coverage even when one of the two horses running has clearly collapsed and died on the track. pic.twitter.com/RaY1Vclpzc
Clear statement at the end that he expects to declare victory tomorrow. Given that the margin in PA has been ticking steadily upwards all day today, that seems reasonable.
@germy: She is there, standing to the side. She was supposed to speak, but I believe that has changed since here’s really nothing to be said that hasn’t been said before.
UNTIL the race is called.
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Wag
That was worth the wait.
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CaseyL
That was a very sweet speech, and the sentiment behind it will last until the first meeting with the GOP Senate.
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dmsilev
@germy: She was. Didn’t speak, but she was standing off to one side of Joe.
@germy: @germy: She was there, standing beside at a distance. Didn’t speak because they didn’t get the race called yet I guess.
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Kattails
@different-church-lady: I’m impressed. I worked in a liquor store. That’s a pretty solid stock. I’ve got a handle of Cruzan aged, some local cider, and a really nice mulling spice mix on hand.
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Yutsano
That was…short.
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Steeplejack
So much tension as we wait to see which candidate will win the presidency—the one ahead in the popular vote or the one ahead in the electoral college—who are both the same man.
@Yutsano: There was nothing to say, really, that hadn’t been said before a hundred times.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: she was there, the plan was for both to speak, but it seems like they dialed this back. This was setting the stage for a more formal declaration of victory tomorrow. I’m sure she’ll speak, and things won’t seem so rushed, and I bet there’s a bit more stage craft.
I wasn’t watching, but twitter is telling me Steve Kornacki, and Nate Silver (on ABC?), and Harry Enten (on CNN?) all had “Oh for fuck’s sake, I’ve seen enough” moments on their respective platforms.
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Chetan Murthy
There are many things that have changed in our country from when I was a child. One of them, that I’ve noticed before, is that almost every important public address has sign-language interpretation for the deaf. This, I’m guessing is due to the ADA. And it’s a great thing. I don’t know whether we did it before or after other advanced nations, but my guess is that it was *before*, and if so, that makes me proud. If after, well, we got there, and that’s a good thing.
Just noticing, is all. A more perfect union, and all that.
Placeholder for the big announcement they weren’t able to make?
Yep.
As it turns out, it wasn’t a good idea for them to publicize the big speech before the networks were willing to make the call. I’ll say it again, not a good look. Not to me, anyway.
These are things a President is supposed to say, regardless of how anyone else behaves. I’m happy to have a statesman again instead of . . . well, we’ve used up all the synonyms.
What difference does it make? It can’t lose them any votes at this point.
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different-church-lady
@Kattails: Back when we were allowed to go to bars, we like to play a game where we’d look at the wall behind the ‘tenders and say, “Have it, have it, don’t have it, have it, have it, want it…”
I’m probably worth more in distillates than I am in cash…
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Curtis
@WaterGirl: I think it’s fine, this will be forgotten in the grand scheme of things.
@zhena gogolia: I’m fine with it. The networks’ indecision is driving everyone crazy. Obviously the Biden camp expected a call. Sounds like some of the talker bees did too.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@zhena gogolia: and it’s late on a Friday, people have gone to bed, switched over to netflix, picked up a book…. tomorrow night at a better hour for all times zones, with a little more preparation
As a terrified little person sick with the tension of this horrible timeline, I can’t tell if I am more envious of you wise jackals who just tuned out most of the week, or DIFFERENT-CHURCH-LADY AT THE DEW DROP INN! ?
Biden mentioned that the pandemic is out of control and needs something done, and the clown car shows he’s right again.
We need for Biden to be able to start doing something about this – he sounded like he’s ready to.
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Curtis
@WaterGirl: I think it’s weird because this whole election is weird. The news companies don’t know how to deal with it and are being overly cautious, especially after AZ.
That said, they need to get a grip and just call it.
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Kattails
@germy: He has not done the actual fucking business of running the country, so this is a bullshit take. What infuriates me to this day is that Hillary Clinton wanted the JOB.
@mrmoshpotato: I had a feeling of deja vu too, but I can hardly tell one clown from another any more.
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different-church-lady
@Mandarama: THIS IS NOT A DILEMMA ANY HUMAN BEING SHOULD SUFFER!!!
Yet the veins in my neck swell with pride nonetheless.
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mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: “No virus! No virus! My daddy Vladdy says you’re the virus! My daddy Vladdy says you’re the virus! SAD!”
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Blue Galangal
@different-church-lady: we’ve been working our way through the Phryne Fisher 1920s era cocktails. Some of them are downright nauseating. But a champagne cup is quite pleasant.
I’ve also become fond of Algonquins this summer (2 parts rye, 1 part dry vermouth, 1 part pineapple juice, some bitters). Refreshing.
Been without it for so long,
Forgot what it feels like
Something that I used to feel
Like a heartbeat racing
Like a new beginning
You remind me of something else
Something that I used to feel,
Something like what I’ve been missing
@WaterGirl: LOL. Yeah, this is one way to, how did that report put it? “Back away from the President”.
Of course, I’m sure Dump is all, “Get your ass in here, Mark. I’ve already had the COVID so there’s no danger. … What do you mean you can’t breathe? Get me a hamberder!!”
They can’t even keep themselves safe. No way they could ever protect the rest of us.
I agree with you, but there are millions of morons in this damn country who don’t give a fuck about Trump’s unprecedented stupidity or his contempt for science
An Associated Press analysis reveals that in 376 counties with the highest number of new cases per capita, the overwhelming majority — 93% of those counties — went for Trump, a rate above other less severely hit areas.
@WaterGirl: I’m all for as much calming “We got this. And we’ll be a stable administration.” announcements as Biden and Harris want to make after these 5 years of shit.
(Yes, I include the Soviet shitpile mobster conman’s campaign.)
Agreed. A fresh bottle. I have but a trickle of five star left.
I like the three-star more than the five-star.
Curious. I’ve never had the three star. Elucidate, please.
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different-church-lady
It’s official: Biden is president-elect of the former British Colonies.
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different-church-lady
@frosty: Hold on, hold on, lemme get a pencil and paper and write this all down…
Cane… that would make it like an American agricole, yah?
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Chetan Murthy
I was talking to a friend in Denmark today. Everyone in his office is talking about the election, and has been for weeks. They were all on pins and needles, terrified, about it. My friend in France told me that early this week, the election was the *only* news on French TV.
I know that our allies haven’t tried to interfere, and for good reason: what if they got caught, and he won? But the citizenry of our allies? They’re all pulling for us.
After waiting for 3 hours, my reaction was more ho hum, heard all this before, blah blah blah. Not the reaction I hoped to be having to the first big speech from (hopefully) our next president. I was hoping he could come out strong.
Time for bed. If they call it in the next hour or two, be prepared to hear the words TOTAL FUCKING COWARDS in the morning. :-)
It has been quite a while, but my memory is that the five-star was too fancy-shmancy, like gilding the lily. I don’t think a good dark rum needs that, and the three-star is “cleaner,” for lack of a better word.
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different-church-lady
@Steeplejack: Heck, just looked at the shelf and it turns out I’ve got the three star after all, and plenty of it. Yeah, clean. And sugary after all the Plantation I’ve been drinking tonight.
I’m a simple man. Rum and tonic is my go-to drink, with a big piece of lime to offset the sweet (one-eighth of a lime per drink). But the Appleton 12 sounds intriguing; might give that a try.
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different-church-lady
@Steeplejack: Yeah, seriously you can put it in a snifter and warm it in your hands just like cognac and really savor it.
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M31
I really wish Corn Pop could be here to see this. He would have cut a great Biden ad, lol.
PsiFighter37
I would just declare victory, say the transition is beginning, and mic drop.
Of course that will not happen, but one can dream. Hopefully they do make clear that they are beginning to start planning the transition so they can hit the ground running. In fact, I would be earnestly vetting choices right now. If Trump decides to try and drag this out to the bitter end, with no formal concession, it would be foolish to wait a second longer.
WaterGirl
@M31: Who is corn pop?
edit: answered!
dmsilev
Look on the bright side. As agonizingly slow as we find the counting, imagine what Trump and his crew are going through. Let the schadenfreude flow through you.
mrmoshpotato
I’ll continue listening to tonight’s Professional Left podcast while waiting.
Matt McIrvin
@dmsilev: They’re the ones slowing it down! If they want to rip the band-aid off fast it’s easy.
LurkerNoLonger
It would be funny if Trump is sitting there watching an empty podium. Oh how the reverses have rolled!
Zzyzx
I’m getting less scared as the numbers roll in. As long as they keep going the right way, I’m not in a hurry.
Chetan Murthy
@WaterGirl:
It’s not widely-known, but when Biden was a teenager, he cut a bro. I mean, really, seriously hurt the guy. That guy’s name is Corn Pop.
/S
M31
Corn Pop was a ‘gang leader’ (read, teen-aged troublemaker) who tried to sneak in the pool where 19-year old Joe Biden was the lifeguard. Joe used the anecdote to talk about his long history with the black community, and got some flack for the story, both for ‘portraying blacks in a bad light’ and making the whole thing up. But it turned out there was a gang and Corn Pop was real, lol, though he died a while back. Post story
WaterGirl
@M31: Oh my god, that’s disqualifying. //
dmsilev
@Matt McIrvin: Nobody ever said they were smart.
Jinchi
@WaterGirl:
Corn Pop was a bad dude.
mrmoshpotato
@dmsilev: Yes. The Soviet shitpile mobster conman is slowly twisting in the wind.
hueyplong
@Zzyzx: That’s the spirit. You’re cutting Trump once each hour, endlessly.
guachi
Biden ahead by 27,000 now in PA. Can we call this thing?
Viva BrisVegas
They’ve got an empty stage and an audience, where’s the open mic?
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
A gang leader Biden supposedly confronted in the past.
Ohio Mom
I wish they had given us a starting time. It’s weird to just make us wait…and wait…and wait…
Zzyzx
@guachi: woah! A 5k movement WITHOUT Philly votes? That’s great!
Baud
@guachi:
Yay! I believe they said 35000 is there threshold.
WaterGirl
I’m starting to get cranky toward the networks. They have no business calling these races anyway. Hopefully this clusterfuck, like the caucus clusterfuck in the Iowa primaries, will be the end of this nonsense.
Either call all the races when you reach a certain statistical probability, or don’t call any of them until the remaining votes, if all of them went to just one candidate, cannot change the outcome of the race.
Chetan Murthy
I know a lot of us are still disappointed by this election’s result. I take solace from the following fable: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/sig.html
Eunicecycle
My granddaughter was scrolling on her mom’s phone and saw a Facebook meme that was comparing Trump with the Flyer’s mascot Gritty. She thought Trump looked like a scary man, but Gritty was cute. She’s 3.
M31
The only thing better would be if Trump were giving a speech right now and the networks were all showing the empty Biden podium
Baud
@M31:
Heh.
guachi
@Zzyzx: I may not be following every update but compared to the last one I have on my computer there were 9224 votes and Biden got 7326 of them. 79% of them. I don’t know where they are but if it wasn’t Philadelphia that’s a far higher % than he got in any other county.
It’s over. End it.
Chetan Murthy
@Eunicecycle: Gritty has big eyes. That alone, is enough to make him cuter than Shitlord.
Steeplejack
More (possibly interesting) filler (thread):
Baud
@guachi:
pittsburgh
Zzyzx
@guachi: might be from Allegheny.
Eunicecycle
@Chetan Murthy: Gritty also has better hair.
Baud
We might cross the recount mark just from Allegheny tonight.
M31
Daniel Dale, man of truth, dug up CornPop’s obituary
Baud
Kornacki is like, call it now so I and every one else can sleep.
germy
I thought Biden/Harris were going to wait until the networks announced the results.
I had George Steph on ABC just now say there wouldn’t be any announcements tonight.
So no speeches until tomorrow?
Matt McIrvin
86,000 votes remaining in PA, Trump can only win if he gets 65% of them, but I think a lot of them are still from Philadelphia. This is OVER.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Their live feed has now been up for 2 hours. I’m guessing they are really close to some arbitrary cutoff where the networks will call a state that will end this.
And they think, just a few more minutes, jus ta few more minutes…
hueyplong
@guachi: It was Pittsburgh
Matt McIrvin
I’ve been wondering if the states deliberately alternate announcements from red and blue counties, when it’s got data from both, to avoid creating an artificial impression of a dramatic turnaround in the count. It seems almost like it, judging from the drops from PA and GA.
James E Powell
@guachi:
Kornacki said the last dump was from Allegheny County (Pittsburgh).
Don’t know why, but they are all acting like the estimated 100K provisional ballots might be 75% Trump votes.
Ohio Mom
Look — a group on the stage!
Benw
Lol Canada has called the US election!
(for Biden)
Baud
@James E Powell:
Kormacki seemed frustrated that they’re not calling PA and NV.
mrmoshpotato
I could go for some beer cheese and crackers about now.
I blame Chef John.
Matt McIrvin
@James E Powell: It’s partly because the early provisionals were very Trumpy, but that was because they were coming from red counties.
And I think they’re getting pressure from above to not say anything that sounds too much like calling the race, until they’re insanely sure, because management is still scared of Trump and also extremely risk-averse.
James E Powell
This is from DJ Quinlan @djquinlan – the guy on the ground in AZ
germy
Nate Silver just said there’s a one in twenty thousand chance Trump takes PA
They’re all giggling, along with Christ Christie. They’ve having a grand time joshing with each other.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Fix your typo about the election madman. :)
Kattails
Various pundits, the Hoarse Whisperer among them, are getting pissed off because every hour that goes by without the networks calling it for Biden is an hour the Republicans have to stir up shit and try to delegitimize the votes. Taking a peek around the twitter feeds, I’m inclined to agree.
Then there’s Rhode Island, where a batch of Trumpublicans are demanding a recount. Biden won by (squints at screen) 102,904. Sure, let’s blow $3 million on a recount *snort*
And while we’re at it Steve Bannon’s lawyer has quit after the little “behead Dr. Fauci” bit of self-expression from Steve. This may have been mentioned but I’m still back with Bongo Cat from this morning, trying to fucking get some work done.
M31
look at those red, white, and blue pickup trucks in front of the stage — right now Trump is saying “vroom vroom” really softly under his breath while a tear rolls down his cheek
WaterGirl
This is not a good look.
hueyplong
@germy: So you’re saying there’s a chance and they can’t call it.
WaterGirl
@germy: They could be giggling from being overtired. Last time I stayed up most of the night playing canasta we were giggling fools by the end. But we had to finish the game.
Zzyzx
I was freaking out earlier today that they weren’t calling it because what if it means that the numbers aren’t quite going the right way?
Now I see that they are so I can’t care anymore. They’re going to have to do it sometime soon, and it’s looking good, so we’re at the end here.
different-church-lady
I’M DRINKING TOO MUCH DURING THE FUCKING PANDEMIC!!!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE….
James E Powell
@Chetan Murthy:
I love it. Thanks.
LurkerNoLonger
@germy: Trump: “So…you’re telling me there’s a chance. Yeah! Woo!”
jk
@WaterGirl:
The one upside to this thing being dragged out is that with each passing hour, Trump is becoming more and more miserable. This neanderthal has caused enormous pain and suffering to millions of people so I’m glad he’s furious. His fat ass is getting removed from the White House on January 20th and then hopefully he’ll end up in the slammer in the not to distant future.
NotMax
@Baud
“My supply of brown trousers is not infinite, dammit.”
:)
different-church-lady
@guachi: OH…. LOOOOOK WHOOOOOSSEEE ALLLLLL CAREBEARS AND SUUUUUUUUNSHINE ALLLLLL OOOOOOFFFF AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH…..
SUDDDDDDDDENN!!!!!
Ohio Mom
And the stage is empty again…sigh.
Baud
@Zzyzx:
I wasn’t quite freaking out, but was concerned in the Susan Collins style. I also feel better now that we’re seeing real numbers.
mrmoshpotato
@different-church-lady: Not alone in that. I hope you have summer sausage, cheese and crackers.
WaterGirl
Dear Networks,
Please either make the calls you would normally make, or make an announcement that this year is just too weird and say that you won’t be calling any further states.
Signed,
Fuck you, grow a pair.
Sab
@different-church-lady: If you turned your caps off no one would know. I don’t know if that would be a good thing. Probably not.
guachi
This is so bad it’s like when I was a kid in Baskin Robbins and couldn’t choose what flavor of ice cream I wanted and everyone knew I was going to choose French Vanilla on a sugar cone.
germy
@hueyplong:
ABC with George Steph and pals, they’ve basically admitted Trump can’t win, but they’re all sitting around refusing to call it.
They have less and less to say. They keep cutting to commercials, and then returning with more map analysis. But they’re giggling and now George just said Biden/Harris will be speaking within the next hour. They’ll return for it.
Okay, ABC just cut back to “Shark Tank” which I am turning off. Same producer as Trump’s Apprentice.
different-church-lady
@Sab: I GOOTTTA BEEEEE MEEEEEEEEE…. I GOTTTTTTA BEEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE…..
Croaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sd6P2Tu8rw
\and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8tq9Va6U68
150k on the way.
Curtis
@WaterGirl: Yeah I was feeling generous at first, but now I’ve reach a point where I think the networks need to treat this race like any other race they call. And just call it.
germy
Switched to CBS Election Headquarters with Nora O’Donnell.
“The path to the presidency is becoming clearer” she says. “But not decisive enough for us to declare a winner.”
Sab
@Ohio Mom: Why are empty stages bad for us but empty podiums good for Trump. Someone is watching ( albeit very bored.) But they could be watching elsewhere.
That sounds pathetic.
Zzyzx
@Baud: so that’s why I can’t begrudge. This IS a weird year and the delta was indeed very narrow. I don’t think there will be much damage from calling tomorrow instead of today.
Aleta
@Croaker: nice
L85NJGT
@germy:
I’d bet somebody had to try and explain the math in PA (and everywhere) to Donnie, and it went over like a lead balloon
Benw
@different-church-lady: dude crack open one of what you got and pass it over. I got some Doritos and Triscuits to pass back
dmsilev
OK, I’m off to do a crossword puzzle. Let’s see if I finish before Biden starts speaking.
NotMax
@Zzyzx
Yup. Much uncharted territory with Here Be Dragons notations.
Croaker
different-church-lady
@Benw: Leessssssssseeeeeeee….
In that order.
germy
“Biden is not expected to declare victory” CBS reporter just said. “Just an update”
zhena gogolia
@guachi:
Jamoca Almond Fudge for me.
germy
“Mood inside the White House is somber” (another CBS reporter just said)
“The president is admitting the math might not add up for him” according to aides close to the orange menace.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
If the Trump 2020 campaign was an old arthritic dog, we’d be talking to the vet about when the decision has to be made.
Steeplejack
MSNBC just said Biden is still at home, 15 minutes from his campaign headquarters. So if anything happens tonight we should get some advance notice.
Aleta
Steve Martin – Office Supplies, with The Philadelphia Orchestra
zhena gogolia
@different-church-lady:
Oh, I hope you’re kidding. Better stop.
zhena gogolia
@germy:
DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL!!!
different-church-lady
For the first time ever:
It’s halfway between an old fashioned and a Manhattan. I call it…
The Old ManHavana.
different-church-lady
@zhena gogolia: NO SLEEP ‘TIL JANUARY!!!
OGLiberal
The last batch of PA votes when something like 7 to 1 to Biden. They weren’t even mail-in…they were provisional, military, overseas, etc. They were from Allegheny so, yeah, Dem country, but let’s call the freaking thing.
They all just want to make Fox call it first, don’t they? And the AZ drip-drop is making that take forever
ETA: 7K to 1K…I don’t feel like doing the math to figure out the actual ratio.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Dear MSNBC – Moar Ashley Parker. She’s dishy.
Also, moar Nicolle Wallace….
Bluegirlfromwyo
@Eunicecycle: Kids know. They love Obama.
MisterForkbeard
@Zzyzx: I get it, but at this point they just need to call it or admit that they won’t until it’s literally impossible for Trump to win.
Zzyzx
@NotMax: Yesterday night was my last big freak out because I saw the numbers moving but what still had the fear of what if they don’t move quite enough to get us over the top.
I can see the difference between, “We all know this is going to be the result,” and actually seeing that it IS the result.
AdamK
Nothing.
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: What’s not a good look?
different-church-lady
@germy: That’s ridiculous. Since when does he know math?
planetjanet
So I went into a media blackout to get through the stress after the polls closed on Tuesday. Only slowly ventured back onto this site a couple of hours ago. I have only been looking at the national campaign’s slack channel for volunteers to see updates. I was part of the textbanking campaign. Just saw a post on slack that the speech should start about 10:20 or 10:30 EST. Fingers crossed.
Morzer
@zhena gogolia:
Befehl me once, shame on you; befehl me twice, shame on me.
NotMax
@zherna gogoliz
At this point can’t tell if that’s an ice cream flavor or a newly elected Congressperson.
:)
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: That’s a good one. Haagen Dazs had a flavor out for 6 months or so that was to kill for, and then they didn’t keep it.
Bastards.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@different-church-lady:
Good god, woman – make up some proper simple syrup (it keeps). Also, buy a couple of bottles of nice bitters beyond Angostura.
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: Biden and Kamala: Waiting and waiting and waiting.
patrick II
@jk:
We’ll be relieved,, but he’s going to be at least as miserable!e after they call it. He’s not sane and will insist it can be fixed and call everyone traitors and the repressed possibility of jail will bubble up more and more assertively. He is going to be in hell because for the first time since he hit his teacher in second grade he won’t be able to bully his version of reality onto his surroundings He is going to be in tremendous pain. Good.
OGLiberal
No expert is saying this but seeing folks on the twitters saying that the nets are worried about pissing off Trump by calling it (correctly) too early. Why?
different-church-lady
@planetjanet: It’s like best Rip Van Winkle experience ever, right?
Morzer
@MisterForkbeard:
Owner: There, he moved!
Mr. Praline: No, he didn’t, that was you hitting the cage!
Yarrow
I think they’re doing the same thing as last night – not calling it at night because drunk, angry people with guns are ready to cause some chaos. They should call it at 6:00 a.m. on Saturday morning. It would all be done by the time those hungover people woke up.
Kattails
I would just like to say fuck the fucking electoral college.
Steeplejack
@Kattails:
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OGLiberal:
The bloated mediocrity will whine regardless.
WaterGirl
There is now sound at the rally!
Luciamia
This whole wait is like Groundhogs Day without the laughs.
Zzyzx
@Steeplejack: If this goes on for weeks, I see it. But the difference between 10 PM on Friday and 10 AM on Saturday will influence no one.
Cheryl Rofer
Still vamping, I see.
I can understand Biden’s hesitation, though. The way things have been going, he and Harris would just finish up, and AP would call.
OGLiberal
I assume we have protections in place to prevent this?
https://youtu.be/3CdKuLRmg8k
ETA: And, I mean, beyond Chris Walken.
Splitting Image
The way I look at it at this point is that the actual reporters and journalists have crunched the numbers and called all of the remaining states. They have done their duty. I am content. The poll workers in turn are doing their jobs and finishing up the last of the counting. This is fine.
The gatekeepers on TV are filling time by re-enacting Geraldo Rivera’s opening of the Al Capone vault, speculating about how Trump might pull off a comeback, while delaying the actual news story that everyone is waiting to tune in for.
All righty then.
NotMax
@
Because those “folks on the twitters” are stoopid.
SATSQ.
hueyplong
I’m not going to spent the whole night watching Kornacki write “100” on that board and pretend that 3/4 of provisional voters in PA are GOPers.
cain
@different-church-lady:
Not – old man hungover? :)
dmsilev
Crossword done. 10 minutes, not bad for an NYT Saturday.
different-church-lady
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: BITCH, I GOT SIMPLE, 2:1, RICH AND HOMEMADE GRENADINE FILLING UP THE CRISPER DRAWER, AND PEYCHAUD’S, ORANGE, LEMON, GRAPEFRUIT, PEACH, AND AZTEC CHOCOLATE IN A DEDICATED BITTERS CABINET SO… Uh… I’m not even sure about the so part right now…
Steeplejack
@Sab:
Forget it, she’s rolling.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
Yes, it startled me out of my crossword!
different-church-lady
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: DON’T FUCKIN’ MAKE ME ENUMERATE THE RUM!!!!!!!
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: Most people are paying no attention to it. He’s not declaring victory. It’ll just be another “we’re calming watching the count” speech. Yawn. It’s not a good look or bad look. It just is.
NotMax
@NotMax
#120 was meant to read @OGLiberal
mrmoshpotato
@Benw: Sounds like someone doesn’t have alcohol on hand. :)
Benw
@different-church-lady: holy moly, I might survive 1-3! Alright I still got some snax for you if your motor functions are still working
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
Appropriate.
https://youtu.be/h1Ga0exjqj0
Steeplejack
@germy:
“The election situation has developed not necessarily to the President’s advantage.”
Kattails
@different-church-lady: Oh please enumerate the rum.
Benw
@mrmoshpotato: aside from the hard seltzer, IPAs, and shitty lite beer, you are fucking correct. Here’s a Triscuit
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: Ha!
Now they’ve done it. I had to break open my bag of “break glass in case of emergency” potato chips
edit: What is it about crunching potato chips that relieves stress? Not pretzels, not cheetos, just potato chips.
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
*SHUDDER*
(Macaulay Culkin Home Alone face).
.
cain
@different-church-lady:
Note to self – rum makes different church lady nostalgic for the days when she kicked people’s ass and they were scared and never said shit again.
(not that that isn’t true today)
zhena gogolia
@zhena gogolia:
Now it’s off again.
Steeplejack
Brian Williams just now: Biden is not on the move, so we’re at least 15 minutes from any statement.
WaterGirl
Now breaking out some wine to go with my chips.
germy
@Steeplejack:
“The president is pining for the fjords…”
“The president’s metabolic processes are a matter of interest only to historians…”
CaseyL
So we got… traffic noises? And someone, a sound engineer? laughing at something.
The suspense mounts.
ETA: You know what would rock? Joe and Kamala stepping onstage and saying the race was just called. That would be really cool.
NotMax
When does the “Pennsylvania’s not a state, it’s a commonwealth so the votes don’t count” argument get dragged out?
//
WaterGirl
All those people in cars have been there for over 2 hours and now they all have to go to the bathroom.
dmsilev
@WaterGirl:
A classic combination.
Morzer
@Steeplejack: Damnit, Aslan, will you get your large furry ass in gear already? Narnia is waiting!
Benw
@WaterGirl: best guess: you’re a Pino Grigio fan :)
Steeplejack
Brian Williams: Joe Biden leaving his house! Fifteen minutes and counting.
WaterGirl
We’re all a little spent, maybe we need some music to feed the soul.
What will be on your celebration playlists?
If you got just one song to send the dumpster fire on his way, what would it be?
Mine
planetjanet
@WaterGirl: Those pickup trucks in the front appear to have lawn chairs in them, but no one is sitting in them. Reserved seating.
Croaker
@Aleta: thx I try
Morzer
@germy:
“The president’s metabolic processes are a matter of interest only to
historiansembalmers…”zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack:
If he’s like us this morning, he’ll get halfway there and have to go back to check the front door.
guachi
@NotMax: Rhode Island is a Plantation so all minority votes count 3/5. Trump demands a recount.
Morzer
@Steeplejack: Are we at the waiting for Biden to see a shadow stage of proceedings?
mrmoshpotato
Seriously – is Bloomberg punking us?
dmsilev
@zhena gogolia: Nice thing about being President-elect is that the Secret Service watches your house when you’re out.
frosty
@different-church-lady: ME TOOOOO!!!! I HOPE IT’S BOOSTING MY IMMUNE SYSTEM.
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: ?
planetjanet
Slack channel said Biden just left the house. He will be speaking at 10:50.
Yutsano
I mean…we’re not being trolled right?
germy
@planetjanet:
I thought Harris was going to speak first, and then Biden. I thought I read that here.
Cheryl Rofer
NEWS!
frosty
@different-church-lady: YOWWWW!!! Sounds like me on Election Night.
Kattails
Hoarse (retweeting Rosie Gray), Trump is getting ghosted by Rupert Murdoch. That is, Fox prime has gotten the memo.
WaterGirl
If Joe is leaving his house, where is Kamala? Not with Joe? In some hotel room, just waiting? Surely not.
Ksmiami
@Kattails: it would be better for everyone if it was eliminated- it would force moderation and trying to appeal to more people not less
germy
Where did Nuzzi get the idea Trump has friends?
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
I’m up to September 2013 in the Times archives. Might have to start rationing myself.
germy
@Kattails:
NY Post is a Murdoch property also. I think they’re turning on Trump, too.
Zzyzx
@WaterGirl: made one this weekend when I was thinking it would be called:
Glide II – Phish [1]
Looks Like We Made It – Barry Manilow
Midnight Train to Georgia – the Indigo Girls cover
Philadelphia Freedom – Elton John
Rock’n’ Me – Steve Miller Band
Everything’s Right – Phish [2]
Volunteers – Jefferson Airplane [3]
Red Rubber Ball – The Cyrkle
The Flesh Failures (Let the Sunshine In) – Hair Soundtrack
[1] Lyrics “Gliiiiiiiide. Flip flip flip flip. It’s time” Seemed apropos
[2] “The long night’s over and the sun’s coming up”
[3] For Grace Slick’s “A new dawn’s coming” rant.
WaterGirl
@germy: That’s some friend! Doesn’t help you, talks behind your back. Trump does not have a single friend.
germy
“Where’s my Joseph McCarthy?”
Cheryl Rofer
@WaterGirl: See the tweet at #164
PsiFighter37
In brighter news, Lauren Underwood has pulled ahead in her race – seems like she will pull it out after all. Means we held onto our 2 Illinois pickups from last year.
dmsilev
Sounds like we’re getting closer. More activity.
James E Powell
@dmsilev:
I am in awe of you and will likely remain so for some time.
planetjanet
I think we are going to get this party started.
I Gotta a Feeling
Cheryl Rofer
HERE THEY COME ???
dmsilev
@germy: How could he possibly do better than Rudy!?
guachi
@germy: Steiner couldn’t get the forces for the attack.
germy
@WaterGirl:
Steeplejack
Brian Williams: Biden motorcade arriving at the venue! And there’s video; he’s correct.
MisterForkbeard
@CaseyL: I think this is sort of what’s happening. The networks keep telling Joe/Kamala that the race is going to be called “soon” and have been telling them that for hours while they fuck around.
Joe wants to do a victory speech but cant because the networks just refuse to put this thing to bed.
SiubhanDuinne
Biden’s motorcade has arrived at the venue!
dmsilev
@James E Powell: The really serious speed-solvers leave me in the dust.
Wyatt Salamanca
@germy:
The Trumpster is experiencing approximately infinite butthurt.
Mike in NC
@guachi: I just read that voters want the name changed to just “Rhode Island” by a large margin.
WaterGirl
@Cheryl Rofer: Not sure how I missed that. Saw the comment before it, and the comment after!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady: He has people for that, the BEST PEOPLE.
Zzyzx
29k in PA now!
It’s getting harder and harder to not call.
dmsilev
@Zzyzx: Maybe that’s why Biden and Harris delayed this speech until the very very end of “prime time”.
Morzer
@germy: From a yuuge, classy man called John Barron.
WaterGirl
@Zzyzx: Please let a big batch come in that puts them at 35k, and it gets announced while Biden is speaking.
germy
OGLiberal
I just watched the Allegheny Co., PA guy come out to give the latest vote dump totals. Only a few thousand. Over 75% for Biden. They guy looks like he needs a 3-month vacation after this…and I’m sure the folks doing the actual counting could use it as well. Likely a thankless job in normal time. With all these mailed in ballots and the threat of Rudy – as incompetent as he is but don’t want to give him anything – lurking? Respect these folks.
WaterGirl
Only 3 minutes more to wait, if they meet their 10:50 updated time.
Cheryl Rofer
CaseyL
@germy: Sounds like every other project the weasel was in charge of. He’d go to a couple of meetings, emit some buzzwords, and leave the actual work to everyone else,
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Satchmo.
;)
germy
Steeplejack
Biden and Harris taking the stage!
WaterGirl
They are up to 47k watchers from 29k who were watching the video an hour ago.
dmsilev
@OGLiberal: The NYT had a story about a vote counter in Atlanta who had to go into hiding because of death threats because some viral-video nonsense falsely accused him of throwing away some ballots.
If nothing else, treating white-guy terrorism with kid gloves has to stop.
different-church-lady
@Kattails:
Cheryl Rofer
FWIW
Morzer
It’s so refreshing to listen to a president who is clear, factual, civilized and decent. It’s been a long four years.
dmsilev
Biden: “We’re going to win”. I guess “We’ve won” was deemed to be impolite or something.
WaterGirl
Can we see where Joe is? Or is he only on video?
different-church-lady
@different-church-lady: OH fuck!!! The now impossible to get Lemon Hart 80 proof AND the not quite as it used to be impossible to get Lemon Hart 151…
WaterGirl
Did the video stop for anyone else? okay, it’s back.
CaseyL
WTF just happened?
dmsilev
@WaterGirl: Me too. Washington post homepage has a working stream.
RoonieRoo
@WaterGirl: yep
different-church-lady
@Benw:
Nominating this for rotating tag line!
Yutsano
@WaterGirl: Yes. Dammit.
But it just restarted.
Cheryl Rofer
@WaterGirl: Yes. Alternative at #199, with an echo.
germy
different-church-lady
@cain: SAY SHIT! I ADORE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY SHIT!!!!
frosty
@germy: “…the actual day-to-day business of being president? It’s been pretty unpleasant for him”
Fuck him. He could have resigned any time instead of dragging us all down with him. Boo fucking hoo.
Dagaetch
Crappy streaming.
Cheryl Rofer
@Cheryl Rofer: Ah, the echo was the other, restarting.
OGLiberal
@dmsilev: I saw that, Disgusting. The guy I saw was an elected county exec. – and he is busting his ass. That counter is just some person in Georgia.
NotMax
That’s a spiffy colored tie he’s wearing. Bet it stops at the belt, too.
Morzer
@germy: Look, if there was an earthquake and the ground tilted downward, that dead horse might fall across the finish line!
different-church-lady
@frosty: IF YOU REPLACE ALL THE BLOOD WITH ALCOHOL THERE’S NO PLACE FOR THE VIRUS TO GET AHOLD OF!!!
germy
@frosty:
It was a publicity stunt that got out of hand.
germy
I thought Kamala Harris would be here?
Elizabelle
“I hope to be talking to you tomorrow.”
We all hope.
dmsilev
And out.
Clear statement at the end that he expects to declare victory tomorrow. Given that the margin in PA has been ticking steadily upwards all day today, that seems reasonable.
Cheryl Rofer
@germy: She was there, standing at the side.
different-church-lady
@frosty: I had to work Wednesday morning, so I couldn’t indulge election night. And that just made the whole thing extra hellacious.
WaterGirl
@germy: She is there, standing to the side. She was supposed to speak, but I believe that has changed since here’s really nothing to be said that hasn’t been said before.
UNTIL the race is called.
Wag
That was worth the wait.
CaseyL
That was a very sweet speech, and the sentiment behind it will last until the first meeting with the GOP Senate.
dmsilev
@germy: She was. Didn’t speak, but she was standing off to one side of Joe.
WaterGirl
@Wag: For real?
Curtis
@germy: @germy: She was there, standing beside at a distance. Didn’t speak because they didn’t get the race called yet I guess.
Kattails
@different-church-lady: I’m impressed. I worked in a liquor store. That’s a pretty solid stock. I’ve got a handle of Cruzan aged, some local cider, and a really nice mulling spice mix on hand.
Yutsano
That was…short.
Steeplejack
WaterGirl
@Yutsano: There was nothing to say, really, that hadn’t been said before a hundred times.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: she was there, the plan was for both to speak, but it seems like they dialed this back. This was setting the stage for a more formal declaration of victory tomorrow. I’m sure she’ll speak, and things won’t seem so rushed, and I bet there’s a bit more stage craft.
I wasn’t watching, but twitter is telling me Steve Kornacki, and Nate Silver (on ABC?), and Harry Enten (on CNN?) all had “Oh for fuck’s sake, I’ve seen enough” moments on their respective platforms.
Chetan Murthy
There are many things that have changed in our country from when I was a child. One of them, that I’ve noticed before, is that almost every important public address has sign-language interpretation for the deaf. This, I’m guessing is due to the ADA. And it’s a great thing. I don’t know whether we did it before or after other advanced nations, but my guess is that it was *before*, and if so, that makes me proud. If after, well, we got there, and that’s a good thing.
Just noticing, is all. A more perfect union, and all that.
Zzyzx
CNN just slipped. “Joe Biden is president because…”
Steeplejack
Well, that was a bit of a nothingburger. Placeholder for the big announcement they weren’t able to make?
Curtis
@Yutsano: Unlike this election.
different-church-lady
@?BillinGlendaleCA: TOP… MEN.
zhena gogolia
@Chetan Murthy:
Yeah, I really like it. The people are always so cool.
WaterGirl
@Zzyzx: It’s bullshit that they haven’t called this.
HumboldtBlue
@Eunicecycle:
And a certified South Street genius!
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack:
Yep.
As it turns out, it wasn’t a good idea for them to publicize the big speech before the networks were willing to make the call. I’ll say it again, not a good look. Not to me, anyway.
zhena gogolia
@CaseyL:
These are things a President is supposed to say, regardless of how anyone else behaves. I’m happy to have a statesman again instead of . . . well, we’ve used up all the synonyms.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
What difference does it make? It can’t lose them any votes at this point.
different-church-lady
@Kattails: Back when we were allowed to go to bars, we like to play a game where we’d look at the wall behind the ‘tenders and say, “Have it, have it, don’t have it, have it, have it, want it…”
I’m probably worth more in distillates than I am in cash…
Curtis
@WaterGirl: I think it’s fine, this will be forgotten in the grand scheme of things.
frosty
@different-church-lady: Waitaminute! You’re short a couple of rums. I don’t see these:
Myers Original Dark; Goslings Bermuda Black
You can’t make a proper Dark and Stormy* without black rum.
* Ms F new COVID hobby: cocktails
germy
@WaterGirl:
The beltway is telling Biden that they’re in charge.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Yeah, but on the other hand vitally important he make regular public appearances right now.
And retrain the American ear to not being accosted by lies and controversy each time.
WaterGirl
@germy: Yeah, I am wondering if this isn’t an attempt by the power that be to hobble Biden right out of the gate.
Wyatt Salamanca
@WaterGirl:
I’ve only been planning a music celebration list since Election Day 2016
Happy – Rolling Stones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBcFjNUzFJ0
It’s All Over Now – Rolling Stones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur-yMil88fU
The End – Beatles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12R4FzIhdoQ
I’m Free –Who
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRD_gIoVOmY
Hallelujah – Leonard Cohen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etc29mMOaLU
Ode to Joy – Beethoven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWyYn0E4Ys
Cheryl Rofer
@zhena gogolia: I’m fine with it. The networks’ indecision is driving everyone crazy. Obviously the Biden camp expected a call. Sounds like some of the talker bees did too.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@zhena gogolia: and it’s late on a Friday, people have gone to bed, switched over to netflix, picked up a book…. tomorrow night at a better hour for all times zones, with a little more preparation
all will be well
NotMax
@frosty
If you substitute in a certain brand of bourbon you can make a Dark ‘n’ Stormy Daniels!
:)
Elizabelle
@Steeplejack: Hoarse Whisperer makes a good point there.
zhena gogolia
@dmsilev:
I appreciate their dedication to the facts as commonly agreed upon rather than their own facts.
Cheryl Rofer
The White House plague continues
different-church-lady
@frosty: NUMBER 13 ON THE LIST, BITCH!!!!
Yeah, forgot both of those, but they’re here. The Meyers tastes like asphalt, but you can’t make a good Jet Pilot without it!
Aleta
@Steeplejack: This must be an odd and strenuous period of waiting for H and B.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
Oh, come on!
different-church-lady
@NotMax: GO TO YOUR ROOM!!!
Mandarama
As a terrified little person sick with the tension of this horrible timeline, I can’t tell if I am more envious of you wise jackals who just tuned out most of the week, or DIFFERENT-CHURCH-LADY AT THE DEW DROP INN! ?
WaterGirl
@Cheryl Rofer: On the plus side, that should get him out of some uncomfortable conversations with the dumpster fire.
germy
@Cheryl Rofer: They can’t even keep themselves safe.
No way they could ever protect the rest of us.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Cheryl Rofer:
As Immanuel Kant once said: BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: You don’t think so? The whole thing is odd and awkward, and dare I say it, bizarre.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
Well, we’re not dealing with a normal end to a presidency.
sdhays
@Cheryl Rofer: I hope he met with Moscow Mitch today.
Geoduck
@germy: I’m just amazed it took this long for him to catch it.
NotMax
@Cheryl Rofer
*gasp* You mean it didn’t “disappear on November fourth?”
//
mrmoshpotato
@Cheryl Rofer: I thought Meadows caught the virus a few days ago. (Sorry, it’s hard to remember the Plagueapalooza at 1600 going on.)
Cheryl Rofer
Biden mentioned that the pandemic is out of control and needs something done, and the clown car shows he’s right again.
We need for Biden to be able to start doing something about this – he sounded like he’s ready to.
Curtis
@WaterGirl: I think it’s weird because this whole election is weird. The news companies don’t know how to deal with it and are being overly cautious, especially after AZ.
That said, they need to get a grip and just call it.
Kattails
@germy: He has not done the actual fucking business of running the country, so this is a bullshit take. What infuriates me to this day is that Hillary Clinton wanted the JOB.
Benw
@different-church-lady: lol
Cheryl Rofer
@mrmoshpotato: I had a feeling of deja vu too, but I can hardly tell one clown from another any more.
different-church-lady
@Mandarama: THIS IS NOT A DILEMMA ANY HUMAN BEING SHOULD SUFFER!!!
Yet the veins in my neck swell with pride nonetheless.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: “No virus! No virus! My daddy Vladdy says you’re the virus! My daddy Vladdy says you’re the virus! SAD!”
Blue Galangal
@different-church-lady: we’ve been working our way through the Phryne Fisher 1920s era cocktails. Some of them are downright nauseating. But a champagne cup is quite pleasant.
I’ve also become fond of Algonquins this summer (2 parts rye, 1 part dry vermouth, 1 part pineapple juice, some bitters). Refreshing.
Aleta
Emily King: “Remind Me in Philadelphia on 2/8/19.
Been without it for so long,
Forgot what it feels like
Something that I used to feel
Like a heartbeat racing
Like a new beginning
You remind me of something else
Something that I used to feel,
Something like what I’ve been missing
mrmoshpotato
@Cheryl Rofer: Understandable.
sdhays
@WaterGirl: LOL. Yeah, this is one way to, how did that report put it? “Back away from the President”.
Of course, I’m sure Dump is all, “Get your ass in here, Mark. I’ve already had the COVID so there’s no danger. … What do you mean you can’t breathe? Get me a hamberder!!”
?BillinGlendaleCA
@zhena gogolia: NOTHING about this presidency has been normal, why expect this to be different, right?
Curtis
@Cheryl Rofer: The timing of those two things are dead on. And suspiciously fortuitous. Will this be the new Q conspiracy?
Steeplejack
Huh. Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, tests positive for COVID-19.
Probably caught it from Trump.
Cheryl Rofer
@Curtis: Apparently Q has been quiet since the election
Wyatt Salamanca
@germy:
I agree with you, but there are millions of morons in this damn country who don’t give a fuck about Trump’s unprecedented stupidity or his contempt for science
h/t https://apnews.com/article/counties-worst-virus-surges-voted-trump-d671a483534024b5486715da6edb6ebf
Steeplejack
@frosty:
She needs a bottle of Barbancourt. I like the three-star more than the five-star.
Cheryl Rofer
Cheryl Rofer
Canada and India have now called the election for Biden. Proof that he is a globalist, I guess.
zhena gogolia
@Cheryl Rofer:
Thanks for that news. And so to bed.
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: I’m all for as much calming “We got this. And we’ll be a stable administration.” announcements as Biden and Harris want to make after these 5 years of shit.
(Yes, I include the Soviet shitpile mobster conman’s campaign.)
different-church-lady
@Blue Galangal: The old ways are the best ways. Mostly.
frosty
@different-church-lady: How about Bayou Rum from Louisiana sugar cane?
mrmoshpotato
Need 1000% certainty in this shitty atmosphere.
NotMax
Attention Brian Williams:
Cease and desist softsoaping it by constantly referring to souls. They’re LIVES that are being lost. Just say it already.
The beach isn’t patrolled by soulguards. The Red Cross does not run soulsaving classes. Convicts do not receive a soul sentence.
/rant
different-church-lady
@Steeplejack:
Agreed. A fresh bottle. I have but a trickle of five star left.
Curious. I’ve never had the three star. Elucidate, please.
different-church-lady
It’s official: Biden is president-elect of the former British Colonies.
different-church-lady
@frosty: Hold on, hold on, lemme get a pencil and paper and write this all down…
Cane… that would make it like an American agricole, yah?
Chetan Murthy
I was talking to a friend in Denmark today. Everyone in his office is talking about the election, and has been for weeks. They were all on pins and needles, terrified, about it. My friend in France told me that early this week, the election was the *only* news on French TV.
I know that our allies haven’t tried to interfere, and for good reason: what if they got caught, and he won? But the citizenry of our allies? They’re all pulling for us.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Men! Women! and CHILDREN!
Children have been orphaned. Parents have had to buried their children.
(Sorry, it gets to me. Fuck this bastard administration who let people die.)
NotMax
@different-church-lady
Gotta put in a local plug.
;)
mrmoshpotato
@Chetan Murthy: Russell Howard (British comedian) had his latest show all about the US election too.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Free shipping to the mainland? hehehe
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: I’m glad you were pleased.
After waiting for 3 hours, my reaction was more ho hum, heard all this before, blah blah blah. Not the reaction I hoped to be having to the first big speech from (hopefully) our next president. I was hoping he could come out strong.
Time for bed. If they call it in the next hour or two, be prepared to hear the words TOTAL FUCKING COWARDS in the morning. :-)
Steeplejack
@different-church-lady:
It has been quite a while, but my memory is that the five-star was too fancy-shmancy, like gilding the lily. I don’t think a good dark rum needs that, and the three-star is “cleaner,” for lack of a better word.
different-church-lady
@Steeplejack: Heck, just looked at the shelf and it turns out I’ve got the three star after all, and plenty of it. Yeah, clean. And sugary after all the Plantation I’ve been drinking tonight.
And while I was back there, I noticed I have…
16: Fleur de Cana 4 year
17: Fleur de Cana 7 year…
different-church-lady
@different-church-lady: And…
18: Damn, how could I forget the 10 Cane? Very smooth for sipping.
19: Hidden in the basement is my Appleton 12 year — not terribly expensive, but a finish like cognac!
Steeplejack
@different-church-lady:
I’m a simple man. Rum and tonic is my go-to drink, with a big piece of lime to offset the sweet (one-eighth of a lime per drink). But the Appleton 12 sounds intriguing; might give that a try.
different-church-lady
@Steeplejack: Yeah, seriously you can put it in a snifter and warm it in your hands just like cognac and really savor it.