Huge loss for Republicans. One of their signature issues for the year was punishing international students. Thoughts and prayers to them. https://t.co/yIqGyEsjsu
— AdotSad (@AdotSad) July 14, 2020
Standard demurral: Better informed front pagers (Hi, Tom!) will no doubt write about this later, but seriously, it’s good news for the students, for the American universities that serve those students, and for the very concept of FREEDOM that the opponents of these students claim to support…
BREAKING: The Trump administration has rescinded a rule that would have forced international students to leave the country if their colleges hold classes online this fall. The administration was sued over the new policy by Harvard and MIT. https://t.co/5kqSNY7r2C
— The Associated Press (@AP) July 14, 2020
BOSTON (AP) — Facing eight federal lawsuits and opposition from hundreds of universities, the Trump administration on Tuesday rescinded a rule that would have required international students to transfer or leave the country if their schools held classes entirely online because of the coronavirus pandemic.
The decision was announced at the start of a hearing in a federal lawsuit in Boston brought by Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs said federal immigration authorities agreed to pull the July 6 directive and “return to the status quo.”
A lawyer representing the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said only that the judge’s characterization was correct.
The announcement brings relief to thousands of foreign students who had been at risk of being deported from the country, along with hundreds of universities that were scrambling to reassess their plans for the fall in light of the policy. With the policy rescinded, ICE will revert to a directive from March that suspended typical limits around online education for foreign students…
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Elsewhere, the same day…
"No. We are down to Kool-Aid drinkers and next of kin," said @acosta in response to question from @andersoncooper about whether there is anyone in the White House who could tell the President to not say/do what he did today. ??
— Jonathan Capehart (@CapehartJ) July 15, 2020
Media: @Acosta to @wolfblitzer: "I've never seen a president turn the #RoseGarden into a campaign rally the way @realDonaldTrump did over the last hour. This was the campaign rally he wanted to have in #NewHampshire last weekend. The myths, the lies, the stretching of the truth." pic.twitter.com/8o2vEanoz8
— Porter Anderson (@Porter_Anderson) July 14, 2020
Per the paper of record in the company town whose monopoly industry is politics, the Washington Post:
President Trump on Tuesday held a Rose Garden event under the guise of punishing China over its crackdown on Hong Kong, delivering a lengthy diatribe against Democratic rival Joe Biden in a display that resembled a campaign speech at the White House…
White House aides had announced the Rose Garden event, which was not initially on Trump’s public schedule, as a news conference, and the president fielded a handful of questions from reporters. But his real motive appeared to be his attacks on Joe Biden — a stunning display of partisanship in an exquisitely manicured setting that presidents have traditionally considered off-limits for direct and extended political attacks…
I'm no longer "live"-tweeting, rather five-minutes-behind tweeting, because Trump is lying so much I keep having to stop
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 14, 2020
definitely a new trump and not the guy who stopped doing these things after suggesting people inject lysol https://t.co/qYZ6HX4K7a
— kilgore trout, suburban female understander (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 14, 2020
Trump dumped almost an hour’s worth of opposition research against his Democratic rival with less than four months to go before the election, hitting him over immigration, energy policy and the environment.
“There’s probably never been a time when candidates are so different,” Trump said. “We want law and order. They don’t want law and order.”…
*biden instantly gains two points in polls* https://t.co/3JS4cR0izo
— kilgore trout, suburban female understander (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 14, 2020
Our Very Serious Media is offended — the Oval Office Occupant is treating them like a bunch of Flavoraide-drunk MAGAt rubes! Up with this, they shall not put!
I have covered 7 Presidents. I have never seen a POTUS use the Rose Garden or any White House platform to launch a political attack against his opponent for reelection, a campaign rally barely disguised as a faux news conference. All during a pandemic and a recession
— Andrea Mitchell (@mitchellreports) July 15, 2020
In this story, it appears as if @peterbakernyt is suggesting that the president is not well:https://t.co/MGF9RYMVTH
— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) July 15, 2020
Media: @JohnJHarwood to @wolfblitzer on @realDonaldTrump's newser: "He's obviously the underdog in the race, no matter what he says. He was rambling all over the place, not expressing coherent thoughts. And he avoided the issue convulsing the country right now: the #coronavirus." pic.twitter.com/oEzEAmwn84
— Porter Anderson (@Porter_Anderson) July 14, 2020
Well, this will be a challenge for the political pess, won't it? Whether to cooperate with that. https://t.co/bA1aUp13M9
— Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) July 15, 2020
debbie
Man, I really feel sorry for Daniel Dale.
zhena gogolia
Great news about ICE, but so unnecessary, so distressing for those of us trying to keep American higher education alive, to have to deal with a totally unnecessary, cruel, evil curve ball from this evil regime. I wonder how much money these universities spent trying to stop this, at a time when we’re all under grievous economic pressure.
Baud
It’s funny how Trump’s main strategy is to portray Biden as not sufficiently progressive, while he tells his base that Biden is in the pocket of Warren and AOC.
From what I’ve seen, their next attack will be that Biden is just a stalking horse for his Veep and will resign as soon as he takes office.
zhena gogolia
Trying Penzey again:
mrmoshpotato
Fixed.
rikyrah
@debbie:
If I ever meet him, I am going to buy him dinner.
Baud
@debbie:
He’s Canadian. He has a safe space to go back to.
Cheryl Rofer
I may be jaded, and I saw only clips from Trump’s rant on Twitter, but he didn’t seem much different to me yesterday than he usually is. The difference is that reporters are now willing to report it. And see it, I guess.
He did have a hard time reading that oppo list. Not impressive.
mrmoshpotato
@debbie: The man is a national treasure. He has blessed our country with his work. (And almost makes up for scumbag Canadian C’mon – Ted!)
“almost makes” damn you autoincorrect!
mrmoshpotato
@zhena gogolia: Fire ICE into the Sun.
MagdaInBlack
Why is Ivanka peddling Goya from the White House? And does Stephan Miller know she chose black beans?
Baud
@Cheryl Rofer:
Perhaps the Rose Garden location is a bit different. But, yeah, it’s a little annoying seeing all these people who have come to understand Trump’s true nature, when it’s been clear to us from the beginning.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
Hillary for VP then!
Baud
@mrmoshpotato:
Haha. That’s probably the one idea I share with the Deplorables. Hillary Hate was a gold mine for them.
rikyrah
@zhena gogolia:
I got my latest order from them yesterday ?
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Ya, but they want her running against because they’re flaccid, rage-filled, traitorous trash.
rikyrah
@Cheryl Rofer:
You are not jaded.
The MSM has spent so much time trying to normalize Dolt45…. they share in the blame ??
Amir Khalid
Punish them for what?
Baud
@mrmoshpotato: Yes, our motivations are different.
Baud
@Amir Khalid: Being international students.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Amir Khalid: I just finished reading THE NIGHT TIGER by Yangsze Choo. It’s set in what it calls Malaya during the colonial era. Have you read it? I enjoyed it but I’d be interested in knowing whether it seems authentic to someone who knows the place.
mrmoshpotato
@Amir Khalid: Funny accents, brownness, making the US a better place, not being Trump trash, etc
rikyrah
International students bring $41 BILLION to the American Economy
They are not a ‘drain’
Willing to spit on $41 Billion dollars for your racism ??
OzarkHillbilly
@Amir Khalid: Theft of American air.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
That would be because it’s illegal under the Hatch Act, which is just basic knowledge any federal employee learns right after the location of the restrooms and probably before how to operate the coffee pot.
Remember when they tried to have Al Gore investigated, jailed and executed for making or taking a campaign call on his office phone?
But the thousands of Hatch Act violations these morons commit in every agency on a daily basis are so far down the list of crimes that if anybody ever writes down those crimes, they won’t even make the first five volumes of the print edition.
gene108
Came across this on YouTube.
Nine high school seniors from the graduating class of 1958 discuss what they think they should do in their futures. Some of the problems, and concerns seem to be still with us.
I find this glimpse into the past fascinating.
Ohio Mom
zhena gogolia: I wouldn’t worry about Havard spending money on challenging Trump on international students. They have very deep pockets.
They did all the other colleges and universities a great favor by exercising their enlightened self-interest.
Every now and then I spare a thought for the Democratic operatives whose job it is to keep track of all the things Trump does that wil have to be undone by Biden. What a marathon to keep up with it all.
Baud
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@rikyrah: Yep, and when I first heard about it, I was hoping some people with deep pockets, which are the only people who exist for Republicans, would yell loud enough to get their attention. Which they did, led by the very deep pockets of Harvard and MIT.
Every university and college in the country is already reeling under pandemic-induced losses of revenue. Losing their international students would have wiped out an enormous chunk of the higher-education institutions.
These idiots are truly so wrapped up in their anti-immigrant fanaticism that they don’t care about that. But fortunately their rich base does.
Gin & Tonic
Things are heating up in Belarus, ahead of the impending elections.
ETA: More video.
mrmoshpotato
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: “Why is Chuck Todd?” has been asked. Now we add “Why is Mrs. Greenspan?”
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Huh. Just reread the Hatch Act words and the President and VP are exempted from the rules.
So I guess it’s just a norm after all and not a violation.
I don’t remember noticing that before. But then that doesn’t explain why they thought they could go after Gore for using his office phone. Did the rules change?
MattF
As ever, cruelty was the point. Next, international students will be put into cages.
ETA: Limited behavioral repertoire, after all.
Baud
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Democrats can be vilified for the “appearance” of wrongdoing.
satby
@Baud: @mrmoshpotato: The RWNJs have been floating that exact conspiracy theory for months, that as soon as he’s elected, Biden will resign and his VP will assume the presidency. And the farthest gone ones insist his VP will be Hillary.
Kay
@Baud:
The entire Trump skills training push is a lie. From the US Department of Education to yesterdays promotion (with Apple and IBM, who should be ashamed putting their prestige names on such garbage) it is a website with links and nothing more.
More people were employed putting together the marketing campaign and website and promotion than will ever be employed as a result of that website. It has links to like “The American Association of Community Colleges”- it’s not even a moderately good INFORMATIONAL site. You would get better information in the guidance office of any large public high school.
I’m shocked Apple and IBM put their names on such a junky site, let alone the fact that all it is is a site.
They should be embarrassed of this. Really low quality work.
MattF
@satby: Not Chelsea?
Amir Khalid
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I’ll keep an eye out for the book, when I can get to a bookstore.
satby
@MattF: not while Hillary draws breath.
Danielx
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
IOKIYAR.
Again.
Baud
@Kay: But they put Ivanka in charge. Hard to believe she would just phone it in. She’s married to Jared after all.
BethanyAnne
Ooo, Tooning Out the News had a little fun with Rick Wilson.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/925371/lincoln-project-cofounder-rick-wilson-gets-sabotaged-by-colberts-cartoon-news-anchors
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Baud: so with all things Trump, create doubt, never presents his own conclusion and gets bored with it anyway.
Jeffro
@Baud: I just want to know (from trumpov and the GOP): is Joe Biden old & senile, or the cunning, ruthless head of a vast, America-destroying, pocket-lining criminal enterprise?
Because they can make one argument or the other, but not both.
debbie
@Baud:
It has got to be exhausting work.
Baud
@Jeffro: They can make as many arguments as they want. They aren’t constrained by logic. They’ve put 100% of their eggs on vilifying Democrats. As long as they remain true to that strategy, everything is fair game.
Baud
@Kay: Jesus, even the URL is crappy.
https://findsomethingnew.org/
Jeffro
@Amir Khalid:
@Baud:
Catherine Rampell, on-point as she almost always is, writes about this in today’s Post: even with this about-face on international students, all the other anti-immigrant/anti-international student/racist policies are going to kill us economically
It’s the same dumb, short-sighted thinking that has us trying to bring back coal instead of going full-bore with solar and wind, and on and on…”education? As an ‘export’?? Surely you jest, dumb libtards!” But it’s true.
low-tech cyclist
Wicked snakes inside a place you thought was dignified…
Ohio Mom
Re: the “Find something new” nonsense.
It seems obvious that even if you could wave a magic wand, and turn all the unemployed restaurant/hospitality/ retail/etc. workers into programmers or medical technicians or whatever, there STILL would be no jobs for them.
Tne economy is rapidly entering free fall.
And that’s before you factor in that it’s a Potemkin effort. Window dressing on an empty storefront.
Jeffro
@rikyrah: Exactly. Did you see that Rampell piece in the WaPo today (Link is above). Just amazing.
Baud
If Trump is reelected, findanewcountry.org might be a useful site to have. Maybe I should cybersquat on the URL, just in case.
Danielx
@Jeffro:
Of course they can. You are troubled by a lack of logical and intellectual consistency, they are not. As Steve Bannon would say, all part of flooding the zone with shit.
Jeffro
@Danielx: thanks, I think Baud made the same point above. The reason I raised the issue isn’t to try and get any sort of consistency out of trumpublicans…it’s to point out their inconsistency to everyone else. ;)
Kay
There’s a phrase they use on the Left, “hollowing out”, and I would breeze by it as their invective but I finally read about what it means and what it describes is the illusion of help or assistance or solving a problem. I recognized it instantly- I have seen this and I didn’t know it had a name.
So you’re a high school junior or a displaced worker and you see Ivanka Trump and Apple and IBM are…doing something. Maybe help is on the way! You go to the site and under the section where it says “find tuition assistance” it’s just an incomplete, thrown together list of nonprofits and state agencies. They’re just sending these people back to the same places that weren’t funded or supported enough to help them in the first place. Hollowed out. A facade of policy or a public good that is instead just a crappy website. A big splashy promise that is cruelly disappointing and helps really no one, other than the people they paid to put it together.
The only thing that surprises me is Apple and IBM put their names on it. Those are prestigious brands and I would think they would protect them better.
satby
@Baud: except that Americans are now barred from entry to most countries thanks to our fabulous pandemic response.
Baud
@Jeffro:
The problem in this case is that both characterizations of Biden are false. Yes, the GOP is being inconsistent, but if they were consistent, it wouldn’t really make their argument acceptable.
WaterGirl
@Baud: It would be even more annoying if they were still reporting the emperor as wearing clothes.
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: And the certificate behind that is some lame free cert, too. It’s like nobody wanted to actually do real work on this.
Baud
@satby: Ugh. Good point. We’re trapped. I guess we have no choice but to win in November.
Kay
Here’s the help for displaced workers the website offers. Say you need to buy groceries while you retrain for two years. Solved:
I mean, come on. I know the Trump Administration is packed with low quality hires who barely work, but WTF is wrong with Apple and IBM that this got out the door with their names on it?
Baud
@WaterGirl: I occasionally come across some right-wing voice trying to recapture the old media magic. I still think the media is giving Trump a pass as compared to how they would treat a Dem president who was as bad as Trump, but it is definitely a better situation than we had in 2016.
Baud
@Kay: I’m afraid to look to see if they posted information about the National Suicide Hotline.
Betty Cracker
Trump’s Tulsa rally was a humiliation. The Alabama rally was canceled when state officials pointed out that it would be insane to hold a rally in the middle of an outbreak. Trump canceled the New Hampshire rally over the weekend to avoid another embarrassingly small crowd. From what I’m reading and seeing on TV, there’s a real possibility the GOP convention that’s currently planned will be scrapped or considerably downsized.
Trump must be like a junkie in the throes of withdrawal. So, he held yesterday’s “press conference” as a substitute and has signaled the intent to use future pressers as a kind of methadone until he can reconnect with his fentanyl supplier.
Rosen is right in that tweet at the bottom of the post: the Beltway press has a choice to make. I think they’ve largely done a better job of covering Trump over the last few months. Not all of them, and it’s maddening that it took this level of lunacy, malevolence and incompetence to shake them out of their stupor, but here we are. They should decline to be used as campaign props.
Jeffro
@Baud: If they were consistent, they would have to pick one argument or the other and yes, neither is acceptable or borne out by any facts.
Making the ‘trying to have it both ways’ point shows that they’re flailing and untrustworthy; there’s no need to examine either characterization after that.
I dunno…I think my way saves time…both ways cut off trumpublican lies, which is the end goal.
zhena gogolia
@BethanyAnne:
I’m sorry, I didn’t watch, but the description sounded suspicious to me. I’m not interested in discrediting anyone who’s trying to get rid of Trump right now. Time enough for that later.
Kay
@Baud:
Ivanka has an apprenticeship website at the US Department of Education. It’s the same. It looks to me like they scraped a bunch of low wage jobs off Indeed and are presenting them as “apprenticeships” – they are literally just jobs – “9 dollar an hour home health aide, Fort Wayne Indiana”
Did you know a for-profit truck driving school is now an “apprenticeship” according to the President’s daughter? It is!
Hollowed out.
mrmoshpotato
@BethanyAnne: Yup. Showed the world what a ratfucking sack of shit Rick Wilson is.
cmorenc
@rikyrah:
I don’t think most of the MSM was at all deliberately trying to normalize Trump, but rather were trying to maintain their own normality as an objective, fair-minded non=partisan fourth estate – which has proven impossible when their beat covering Trump proved to be a nightmarish version of Alice’s Wonderland, complete with a crazy king of clubs rather than queen of hearts. The net result is that that for far too long, the MSM seemed to be perversely helping prop Trump up, when their actual mindset was to try to act normal themselves in such an impossibly abnormal situation. OK, so maybe Maggie Haberman crossed too far into wilful collaboration mode in exchange for access, but most of the rest of the legit MSM were simply trying to keep normal in impossibly abnormal times for far too long.
Heck, even the saga of Richard Beauregard Sessions parallels the parable of Humpty-Dumpty, except in this version the mad King Trump pushes Humpty off the wall, and all the King’s horses and all the King’s men smash Humpty so he can never be put back together again.
mali muso
From the trenches of working with the international student population, this stunt cost us all days of precious time spent frantically trying to meet the (frankly impossible) newly proposed bureaucratic requirements and now we are 10 days closer to the start of the fall semester and STILL without clarity on how to properly advise students. In the meantime, functional governments (looking at you Canada) have been working closely with their educational sector to promote and facilitate student enrollments with lots of flexibility.
narya
Kitchen update (and brief frivolous break from this madness): well, not much of an update. The carpenters were fussing with odds and ends and cabinets, the Counter Guy came to measure for the stone counter, and the electricians came by to install some outlets, light switches, etc. My Downstairs Neighbor found me a screen door; now I just have to figure out which is the most convenient location for them to pick it up for me (and confirm the size). I also put in an order at King Arthur yesterday, in anticipation of stocking up on some things, and I’m expecting to do the same thing at Penzey’s eventually. I don’t really need spices much, but want to support them. I’m hoping to be able to start cleaning and using the kitchen by the end of next week; I don’t think that’s too optimistic. Tiles will be a week or two after that, I think.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
I can enjoy LP ads, but anyone who gives them money is a fool.
JPL
@Kay: Did IBM and Apple know about the end result? If they didn’t what do they do? Dissing president pissy pants isn’t a wise move when he’s been known to destroy companies.
Kay
Thanks giant, wildly profitable corporations that foisted this fraud on the public. Did NOT know that. Armed with this valuable advice, I feel I can achieve anything.
gene108
@Baud:
The “Find Something New” URL is not a “.gov” URL. It is a “.org”. It is being run by a private third party.
I assume, when you take a quiz, they will be selling your data to as many people as possible
JPL
@Betty Cracker: If you are traveling from NY or NJ to attend, good luck when you get home. You’ll be quarantined for two weeks.
Ocotillo
@satby: Well, that’s just silly. Everyone knows that would be too obvious. Whoever Biden’s veep is will name Hillary their VP once they have moved up to the presidency and then that woman will be on America’s tv screens again at the State of the Union.
Seriously though, the next State of the Union will have two women sitting behind the president for the first time. Cool.
mrmoshpotato
@Betty Cracker:
Yup. Happens when a Soviet shitpile mobster manbaby thinks the presidency is all about praising him.
Cold reality set in when the traitorous bitchwaffle realized we don’t have to kiss his fat, orange, fascist ass and can call him Bunker Bitch all we want.
Kristine
@satby: and if he wins and doesn’t resign, they’ll say it’s because they uncovered his nefarious plot. There will always be a justification when the things they predicted don’t happen.
Kay
@JPL:
Do a real apprenticeship! Skip this bullshit and marketing of the public policy they prefer and put money behind training people for jobs! PAY FOR THE TRAINING.
What are Apple and IBM? Are they in the “advise the masses on careers” business? No. Why don’t they stay in their own lane and either offer something real in that lane or shut up, offer nothing, and rake in the profits. Pick.
Baud
Cole should create a BJ apprenticeship program.
Sab
OT: How do people Actually feel about this threat and their prospects.
I am 66, on SS and medicare. I have a husband and three step-kids. His father and his brother died of serious infectious diseases that shouldn’t have happened. My mother died of a degenerative neurological disease that currently is untreatable. Covid might have been be better for my mom, but not for anyone else on the rest of the family, PLUS ALSO let us not forget the nurses aides.
My dad is almost 96 with dementia. He will die sometime, that is just how things work.
ON THE OTHER HAND my Dad’ s nurse’-s aide has worked with him for 13 years, is utterly careful, swabs everything down, wears masks, limits her physical contact with her own family , and is otherwise completely careful.
Frankly, I am more worried about her than him. He has lived his life. She should have years with her kids and grandkids. I don’t want this job to risk that.
Wapiti
Speaking of the press finding their way, McArdle had a column up on “how to explain systematic racism to non-liberals like me”. It wasn’t offensive.
SiubhanDuinne
@Betty Cracker:
Typo of the Month.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: The giant corporations are the weak link in this fraud. They still have brands they want to protect.
Gin & Tonic
@cmorenc: I find the Sessions thing really comical. Guy hitches his wagon to Trump big-time, then ends up doing *one* legally correct (I almost wrote “ethical”) thing in recusing himself from the Russia probe, and gets destroyed. Karma, motherfucker.
Betty Cracker
@SiubhanDuinne: Hahaha!
ETA: Gotta say, Tulsi’s post-primary behavior surprised me. She endorsed Biden straight away and has kept mostly quiet, as far as I know. Maybe Hillary was wrong about her.
Baud
@Betty Cracker: I don’t know. Sanders has also behaved since he got out. Maybe they just realize that the opportunity isn’t there. Let’s see what happens after Biden wins.
Ken
@Wapiti: I would think it would be easy to explain it to McArdle. Just dial the mansplaining up to 11. “Well, sweetie, it’s a little complicated to explain. Why don’t you just sit your pert little bum down over there and I’ll go over it slowly…”
Gin & Tonic
@Sab: My mother was very unsentimental about life and death. She thought Jack Kevorkian was a national hero.
germy
@Baud:
Cole: “Here’s a mop. Now strip!”
satby
@Sab: Lost in all the horror is that it’s almost 800 health care workers or heath care support persons who have lost their lives during this pandemic. Those people were (mostly) highly trained and are not replaceable on short notice.
And now that shortages of PPE and other equipment are starting again, we will lose more. Not only will there be shortages of hospital beds, there will be shortages of caregivers.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
I agree. I mean, honestly. I know Daddy gave them billions in tax breaks and gutted all regs, but why involve high school juniors in this charade?
I hate fake gifts. I want to scream at these kids “look that gift horse in the mouth! Absolutely!” That horse is 107 and they’re telling you it’s 2.
charluckles
@Jeffro:
As a resident of a college town, I also think it’s nearly impossible to overestimate how important these international students are to local economies.
I used to work on campus with a Malaysian fellow who ran around with a big group of Chinese international students. These guys were absolutely car crazy and had more money than they knew what to do with. They were an absolute dream come true for the local car dealerships.
zhena gogolia
God, that tweet with Ivanka holding up the can of Goya has gotten some fabulous replies.
Kay
They’re all such liars that they think this is clever, but all it does it make look Trump look like a weak, bad manager and reveal the absolute chaos in that organization.
The trade advisor wrote a crazy piece of junk about the health advisor, on health, and it’s such a shitshow in there either no one knew or they couldn’t stop him. That’s the best spin they can put on it.
Dumb people who are bad at their jobs.
eclare
@zhena gogolia: So well put. Do you have a link?
Sab
@Gin & Tonic: My Dad was a pathologist and thought Kevorkian was a monster.
Lots of people want to die and should rethink it. Many do. Some don’t Others were right to begin with and rethinking brought them to the same place.
Kay
@zhena gogolia:
The Trump Administrations unsupported belief that Ivanka and Jared are popular is one of the funniest things about them.
Where did it come from and why does it persist? They’re a fucking disaster, these two. Over and over and over. Ivanka and Jared may be responsible for the worst photo op in modern political history, where they gassed the protestors at the church. Yet. They still insist we see and hear from them, daily.
Spanky
Hmmmmmmmm.
Captain C
@rikyrah:
That right there is your epitaph for Conservatism. Hopefully not also for this nation (or civilization in general).
Spanky
@Betty Cracker:
I doubt it. Hillary talks with people who know things we don’t.
Alison Rose
I’m sure this GOPer was so worried about vote-by-mail fraud that he just OOPSIE DAISY did this by accident.
Kansas Rep. Steve Watkins Charged With Felonies Over Voter Registration At UPS Store
zhena gogolia
@eclare:
No, it was in an e-mail. I’m on their list.
Gin & Tonic
@Spanky: I see what you did.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: Right? The only thing that explains it is that Ivanka and Jared actually ARE the Trump administration — they’re running the entire show, and they think they’re popular. No one else is left to disabuse Trump of that notion.
I read some gossip piece in Politico (I think) the other day about Trump wanting to cut Jared out of the campaign loop. Even though no one was publicly fired, Trump supposedly replaced Parscale with Jared as campaign boss. Things didn’t improve, so now Trump wants to replace Jared with some of the low-quality hires from the 2016 campaign.
That sounds somewhat plausible — the campaign seems to be the only aspect of the job that remotely interests Trump, which is why he took the unprecedented step of launching a reelection campaign shortly after he was sworn in.
But I can easily believe Jared and Ivanka are running everything else. That’s why we keep lurching from one disaster to another.
jonas
The lawsuit was being led by Harvard and MIT, who combined have more money than God, but dozens of other schools filed amicus briefs and had to certainly expend time and resources counselling their international students, coming up with alternative teaching strategies, etc. until it was reversed. ICE knew this policy would never survive contact with a federal judge, so they cut their losses.
mad citizen
As a Fort Wayne native son, Fort Wayne says FU to Ivanka. To quote Steely Dan “The things that pass for knowledge I just don’t understand” I had an older friend in grad school in the mid 1980s who loved this lyric. He was complaining THEN about the vacuous nature of the undergrads…
Even if we have two women Dems in power in Congress, I’ve always thought we should do away with the whole “sitting behind” thing at the State of the Union. It’s just too awkward, and has become so political as well. That and getting rid of or stop televising the stupid white house correspondents dinner are two things I would change. Trump not attending the latter event is maybe the only thing he has done that I agree with
ETA: Oh yeah, third thing to change is killing hundreds of thousands of americans through inaction and incompetent leadership.
jonas
I guess that’s the only way to explain why Ivanka continually exposes herself to repeated slagging on Twitter with her utterly inane posts and selfies.
Chief Oshkosh
@JPL:
Apple? IBM? It would be GREAT if Dumbass Donnie went after them, especially Apple. Fucking around with Apple would result in a whole new segment of voters peeling off the Trump KoolAid Kart (albeit probably not a huge number of people). Hell, Apple could run a whole new campaign based solely on “Buy iPhone XIV; it’ll piss off Trump” and their domestic and international sales would skyrocket.
As for IBM, I doubt that there is a single person in the world who would care either way if anyone at any level said something good, bad or indifferent about them. It won’t affect their bottom line and nobody, but nobody, has any marketing-induced ego-buy-in with the company or its products.
jonas
@germy:
“Once you’re done getting that car out of the field, you can start looking for the mustard!”
Ladyraxterinok
@gene108:
Good grief, Charlie Brown!
I graduated high school in Tulsa in 1957!
satby
@eclare: here’s the FB posting, it’s public so I hope you can read it even if you don’t do FB..
The Moar You Know
@Gin & Tonic: If these people had been my employees, I would have them drug tested to see if there were some organic cause for why they’re so fucking lazy, and then fire them anyway regardless of the results.
Another Scott
In response to one of the Rose Garden tweets:
Unpossible. Donnie never breaks the law.
Er…
Cheers,
Scott.
Jeffro
Sweet jaysus, are Alabama Democrats ever having a field day with Tommy Tuberville the very day after he won the GOP nomination.
Go look at some of the tweets they’re slapping him around with…holeeee cow
Ladyraxterinok
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Well, there was a super strange (to middle America, ‘fly over country’) photo of Gore going up some steps with gold-robed Buddhist monks. Must be breaking all sorts of laws!
satby
@satby: ugh, that may not be updated. All his emails and up posted though, so stay tuned.
Another Scott
@MagdaInBlack: Ivanka and the rest of them are continuing to do All The Crimes (™ Wonkette). It’s what they do.
Grr…
Cheers,
Scott.
The Moar You Know
@cmorenc:
Humpty-Dumpty sat on a wall;
His old boss shot him in the back of the head.
Now Tommy-Trumpty sits on that wall,
Praying he doesn’t soon join the ranks of the dead.
Ruckus
@Kay:
How could we expect more from people whose entire life is about facade? Who have no depth of anything other than me, Me, ME?
Thinking how they look to other people stretches all their boundaries and is their entire existence. We used to talk about the me generation and this is what that was all about, people for whom me is the only person in the world.
Jinchi
Is Trump offering anything? I thought the slogan was Find Something New which sounds like you should get off your lazy ass and find another job, yourself.
Ruckus
@The Moar You Know:
Save the time, trouble and expense of testing. It won’t tell you really anything about them, with or without drugs, they would be the same people. They don’t fit, they expect, demand, never earn. They aren’t worth the spit you feel like you want to give them.
hedgehog mobile
@zhena gogolia: Recommend highly.
Ruckus
@Danielx:
Thing is that they can’t create anything but shit, because their perspective is always ME! Look at ME! Listen to ME! Love ME! Pay ME! They have no quality, no outside, everything is about them and how great they are, with absolutely nothing to show for it other than bullshit. They never earn anything, they have to be given everything because they are incapable of actually earning anything. Respect, admiration, money – incapable.
MattF
@Betty Cracker: Except that so many of the administration’s actions have the Trumpy signature combination of absolute Incompetence and absolute lack of empathy. That’s hard to fake.
L85NJGT
They lifted the CC programs & training pitch from the Obama era, now without any deliverables. Low quality hires just cribbing from the smart kid.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Trump Administration:
COVID? Get used to it. Lose your job? Get over it, find something new! It will be fun!
zhena gogolia
Peale
@Baud: May we never find out how the press will treat a president as bad as Trump. May that always be speculative.
Betty Cracker
@Jeffro: It’s a long shot, but I hope Jones can hang onto that seat. I’ve read conflicting theories on which opponent would have been weaker against Jones, and most seemed to think Sessions would have been a better foe from the Dems’ perspective. I don’t know. Maybe Jones should make more of the fact that he’s a Bama alum?
The Moar You Know
@Ruckus: Oh, none of that’s the point. I’d do it just so that Ivanka and Jared have to squat and pee in a tray in front of a $9/hour security guard. I’m really petty and shitty that way. Blame my Trump-loving mother, I grew up learning that victory isn’t victory without humiliation.
There’s some merit to that argument, if applied to the right people.
Betty Cracker
@MattF: True, but I’m thinking more of the administrative side rather than the origin of the destructive impulses, i.e., the actions of the people actually running shit (badly) to the extent anyone is in charge at all. I’m also not convinced Jared and Ivanka are appreciably less incompetent, malevolent or narcissistic than Trump himself, despite the best efforts of their PR shop to convey their regrets…
Jeffro
@Betty Cracker: Polling right now is tied, 46-46%(!)
I’m (foolishly) optimistic here. It’s not like Tuberville is going to buck the GOP party line on ending Obamacare…if Jones can successfully point out how that would impact AL residents (among other issues) he might just pull it out again.
Subsole
@Baud:
They already have one of those here. Just go down to 8th and Waterman, hang a left down the third alley.
Wear kneepads.
Gin & Tonic
I know we love to hate Peter Baker and the NYT, but this passage really conveys the news:
eclare
@satby: thanks!
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Jinchi:
That’s how I took it.
joel hanes
@Kay:
Ivanka has an apprenticeship website at the US Department of Education.
IIRC, that website was the entire basis for Trump’s lie that Ivanka had created 16.4 million jobs
Frankensteinbeck
@Kay:
The two constituencies that define reality in the White House believe it: Trump and cable news.
joel hanes
@Gin & Tonic:
I find the Sessions thing really comical.
I’m finding it increasingly difficult to find anything humorous in the American situation, or in my own. Snark is losing its charm. Irony is dead, and pratfalls aren’t funny when it’s the US government falling on its face.
Gravenstone
@satby: That’s silly. Biden’s VP would name Hillary as their VP after succeeding him. Only then would they step down in turn to elevate her to the office. You need that extra bank shot to get the proper effect.
MattF
@Gin & Tonic: Something there made the assembled media stenographers realize that they were, collectively, doing something ridiculous.
joel hanes
@Betty Cracker:
I think that Gabbard may have the capability to learn from failure.
MattF
@joel hanes: Or, possibly, her funding stopped.
joel hanes
@zhena gogolia:
God, that tweet with Ivanka holding up the can of Goya has gotten some fabulous replies.
And has distracted from Trump’s two disastrous appearances yesterday, as was intended.
Meanwhile, Russian bounties on American troops have fallen completely off the media.
zhena gogolia
@Betty Cracker:
I just set up a monthly donation for Jones.
zhena gogolia
@joel hanes:
I don’t think it’s really distracted from it. I see a lot of talk about that.
Another Scott
@Jeffro: Ah, but they can, and will, argue every side. They always throw the kitchen sink at the wall and watch the cows come home while whistling past the graveyard.
“Republicans don’t lie to be believed. They lie to be repeated.” – LOLGOP
It’s all tribal and tribe-signaling. It doesn’t have to make sense. It just has to be memorable enough to be repeated.
Cheers,
Scott.
Fraud Guy
@WaterGirl:
Per their favorite talk host, just like the Donner Party did.
Gravenstone
@Spanky: /golf clap
Subsole
@MattF:
This. She got spilled.
An attack isn’t as effective if the other guy sees it coming.
J R in WV
@Amir Khalid:
Being foreigners who came to America to steal our education! You need to follow the White House Racism Policy of the Day more closely.
Kay
That’s just a really good number.
Suzanne
The picture of Ivanka holding up the Goya beans looks straight out of The Price is Right with one of “Barker’s Beauties” holding up a product during a pricing game.
Fun fact: I had a middle-school classmate who went on to do softcore pr0n who became a Barker’s Beauty for about ten seconds.
catclub
It was navarro that wrote one of the first memos on Covid19 – in January – that trump ignored. I am guessing he does not bring that up often with his boss. It was one where he was right – so embarrassing blot on his record.
scav
@Suzanne: I’m now somehow stuck thinking that goya means a female goy.
misterpuff
Kudos to Anne Laurie for getting the powdered drink mix name correct: Flavor-aid. Grape Flavor-aid was Jim Jones approved poison vehicle from which the proverbial “drink the Kool-Aid” derived.
NotMax
@Suzanne
Shonda for the Goya.
M31
google searches for “BJ apprenticeship” are going to be super informative
NotMax
@misterpuff
In one of life’s ironies, Kool-Aid man’s shtick was knocking down walls.
;)
JimV
I just want to thank Anne Laurie for all her great work. So I will: thank you!
dopey-o
RONG! Try to follow along.
1. Aug 2020 Biden names Michelle Obama as VP.
2. Jan 20, 2021 Biden sworn in as POTUS
3. Feb 20, 2021 Biden retires, Michelle Obama sworn in as 47th POTUS
4. Feb 21, 2021 Barak Obama appointed chief of staff.
5. Feb 22, 2021 Hillary assumes VP spot.
6 Mar 20, 2021 Michelle Obama resigns, soon to be named to SCOTUS by POTUS Hillary Clinton.
April 20, 2021 Jesus returns in time to attend egg roll on South Lawn of White House, holds up egg and tells evangelical trumpanzees to suck it.
Did i miss anything?
Bill Arnold
@Kay:
The public statements are consistent with a reading that there were threats involved, either that or a back-room freakout of capitalists looking at plausible doomsaying economic forecasts. Carrots are not the Trump administration way, and Ivanka’s involvement is never a good sign. [1]
E.g. https://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2020/07/ivanka-trump-apple-and-ibm-ceos-talk-about-the-find-something-new-jobs-training-program.html
[1] Ivanka Trump was just given the Internet Freedom Award. LOL. (Jack Morse, 2019-05-23)