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You are here: Home / Civil Rights / LGBTQ Rights / LGBTQ Rights Are Human Rights / Resolutely Joyful Open Thread: Still Taking PRIDE

Resolutely Joyful Open Thread: Still Taking PRIDE

by Anne Laurie|  June 29, 20206:00 pm| 119 Comments

This post is in: LGBTQ Rights Are Human Rights, Open Threads

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Next year, Murphy the Trickster God willing, we’ll be able to party in public again…

Taiwan stages LGBT pride parade 'for the world' https://t.co/6WuUtopEgI

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) June 28, 2020

… More than 200 people thronged Liberty Square in Taipei, saying they were “marching for the world” during the LGBT pride season.

Organiser Darien Chen said it was an honour to march when nearly 500 other events globally had been cancelled.

Last year Taiwan became the first place in Asia to legalise same-sex marriage…

The island normally holds its pride parade in October but brought this year’s event forward to replace the hundreds of cancelled marches around the world.

Taiwan has recorded just over 440 coronavirus infections and only seven deaths. It has not seen any local transmissions for more than two months.

Mr Chen said the LGBT community in Taiwan wanted to mark the 50th anniversary of the first pride marches in the US.

“The whole world is facing the height of the pandemic,” he said. “So Taiwan won’t give in. and we must continue with this flame of hope and stand up for the world.”…

Taipei is hosting the world's only Pride parade today. Today's gathering is small, but spirited. pic.twitter.com/7KUWy54h3c

— Chris Horton ??? (@heguisen) June 28, 2020

LGBTQ Pride looked a little different in New York City this year because of the pandemic, but that didn't stop people from celebrating in the streets and virtually. https://t.co/lHOVGrWEov

— AP Eastern US (@APEastRegion) June 28, 2020

A double rainbow appeared over the FDR Drive and the East River after a thunderstorm passed over New York City on the day that the annual Pride parade was supposed to take place in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the first Pride march in NYC. #Pride #nyc #rainbow pic.twitter.com/rklCSneNN1

— Chase Sutton (@chase_sutton99) June 29, 2020

Happy Pride! ?????? Even though we can’t march together this year, we can still celebrate together online. After all, Pride has always been about more than a parade – it’s about celebrating our differences and supporting one another no matter who we are or whom we love. #GlobalPride pic.twitter.com/nHKW99J0Ff

— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) June 27, 2020

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  1. 1.

    VeniceRiley

    June 29, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    Thanks to all the allies for all the help and support. I’ll always have a soft spot for Biden leading the way on marriage. Without that leadership, I might not be getting married the second flights re-open from UK to here. Every little bit helps; so, if you lended a hand in any small way- THANK YOU for changing my life for the better!
    Happy PRIDE!

  2. 2.

    Baud

    June 29, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    51 years ago today, a movement was born on Christopher Street. As we remember the anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising and the brave individuals who changed our world forever, let's recommit to finishing the job and finally achieving full LGBTQ+ equality. #Pride pic.twitter.com/PzbGOMy0zx— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) June 28, 2020

  3. 3.

    Benw

    June 29, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    HAPPY PRIDE

  4. 4.

    MomSense

    June 29, 2020 at 6:14 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    I can’t wait to hear the happy news about your wedding!

  5. 5.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 29, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    Happy Pride everyone!

    I did the same thing I do every year (play video games and write), and didn’t have to feel guilty this time.

  6. 6.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 29, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    My DIL posted a pic of the pedestrian bridge across the river Dnipro in Kyiv lit up in rainbow colors this evening. If you know Eastern Europe, that’s big.

  7. 7.

    satby

    June 29, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    Pride Day at the market was a success. A local LGTB non-profit had a booth with Pride swag as a fundraiser and got lots of love and almost $400 in donations. Lots of rainbows on display, and unlike past occasions when this group (a Trans support group) had a booth, no complaints to management or hostile comments, a first. It was a nice way to spend a miserable steamy Saturday.

  8. 8.

    Yutsano

    June 29, 2020 at 6:19 pm

    @VeniceRiley: You know the saying: pics or GTFO! Mazel Tov on your (hopefully soon) nuptials! Lord knows maybe I might go down that route. Maybe. Porcine wings will have to be more common first I think.

  9. 9.

    VeniceRiley

    June 29, 2020 at 6:27 pm

    @MomSense: Thanks and thanks @Yutsano #comment-7758585
    She’s finally getting promoted off the wings at the prison, and I’ll be far less Covid worried meantime. And there will be pics.  I can’t wait to break the cameras out around all the old English villages and market towns. (Hey, take the plunge.  I’ve never been this happy in my entire life.)

  10. 10.

    Yutsano

    June 29, 2020 at 6:32 pm

    And since the thread be open: at 1500 tomorrow (3 post meridem) I will be going home from hospital after 20 days in.

  11. 11.

    Peale

    June 29, 2020 at 6:33 pm

    One of the positive side effects of COVID is that the cultural phenomena known as “Boyslove” or BL for short has finally arrived in the Philippines. BL isn’t LGBT per se. it’s stylized romances between two young men usually written by straight women for a straight audience. It has been big in Thailand for about a decade, although it’s origins are in Japan. It reached China in a big way five years ago, only to be banned after it got popular. Taiwan then picked up the Chinese market. But while a big swath of the international fans were Filipinos, there hadn’t been much movement to produce their own and until recently was still a subculture who watches Thai and Taiwanese output religiously. Stuck in lockdown, though, a Thai show in March called 2gether became a mainstream hit and suddenly there was funding for series, some by the major media cos like abs-cbn. In all, 11 series have been announced in the past month. Still not at Thailand’s output, but baby steps. The first web series, Gameboys, about two young men who meet in spite of Covid lockdown has been a surprise hit. About 3 million viewers on YouTube.

  12. 12.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 29, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    @Peale: BL isn’t LGBT per se. it’s stylized romances between two young men usually written by straight women for a straight audience.

    Ah, they’ve reinvented Yaoi.

  13. 13.

    satby

    June 29, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    @VeniceRiley: So good to hear! Hope it’s soon!

  14. 14.

    zhena gogolia

    June 29, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    The double rainbow is beautiful. I’ll take that as a sign — a covenant, if you will — that we will be rid of the evil that infests our national government.

  15. 15.

    satby

    June 29, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    @Yutsano: Hallelujah! Keep on with that recovery.

  16. 16.

    zhena gogolia

    June 29, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    Congratulations!!!!

  17. 17.

    zhena gogolia

    June 29, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    @Baud:

    Thank you, Joe! I love you!

    I can’t believe how enthusiastic I’m getting about Joe fucking Biden.

  18. 18.

    zhena gogolia

    June 29, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    We had our first Pride parade in our little town last year and I hear it was great. (I don’t do parades.) I was sad there wouldn’t be one this year because I loved the pictures.

  19. 19.

    Anne Laurie

    June 29, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Ah, they’ve reinvented Yaoi.

    Not ‘reinvented’, AFAICT, so much as monetized.  But, hey, means more youngs can find something with which they can identify, so…

  20. 20.

    zhena gogolia

    June 29, 2020 at 6:40 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Come on! Marriage is wonderful!

  21. 21.

    zhena gogolia

    June 29, 2020 at 6:40 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Oh, good!

  22. 22.

    WereBear

    June 29, 2020 at 6:43 pm

    @VeniceRiley: Congratulations!

  23. 23.

    MomSense

    June 29, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    I love making wedding shawls (hint hint).

  24. 24.

    Ohio Mom

    June 29, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    Yutsano,

    Yikes! I did not know you were sick or in the hospital. That’s what I get for skipping threads.

    Twenty days is a long time, I am glad your sojourn there is coming to an end. Wishing you a complete, and much sped up from now on out, recovery.

  25. 25.

    MomSense

    June 29, 2020 at 6:49 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I’m so sorry.  Can we do anything?

  26. 26.

    Yutsano

    June 29, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    @MomSense: Well I’m out of this joint tomorrow so yeah after I’m free my folks will be keeping an eye on me until I get strong enough to get back to living on my own. I’m in pretty much good territory, but thank you for the offer!

  27. 27.

    MomSense

    June 29, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I hope they at least figured it out and you feel better than when you went in!

  28. 28.

    debbie

    June 29, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    @Yutsano:

    At last!!!!!!!

  29. 29.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 29, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    @Yutsano: 🎉🎉🎉

    What recovery do you still have to do, or are you in the clear then?

  30. 30.

    C Stars

    June 29, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    Thank you for this! Our family usually celebrates Pride as I was somehow finagled into arranging an annual pride festival for our school community a few years ago. It’s a lot of work but in the end worth it I suppose, because of how excited my kiddos–one of whom is queer–get (and how much fun they have) every year.

    Have to say I did NOT miss ordering 75 pizzas and trying to guilt DJs and facepainters into contributing their time, but we did miss the festivities a bit. Kiddo wore pride-themed PJs last night and it was bittersweet.

  31. 31.

    Aleta

    June 29, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    @Yutsano:  That’s fantastic you’ll be out of there.  Get the hell out of Dodge as they say.

  32. 32.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 29, 2020 at 7:03 pm

    @Yutsano: Holy cow. I can’t imagine what you have to do these days to earn a 20 day hospital stay. Here’s to being sprung tomorrow!

  33. 33.

    Redshift

    June 29, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    My DIL posted a pic of the pedestrian bridge across the river Dnipro in Kyiv lit up in rainbow colors this evening. If you know Eastern Europe, that’s big. 

    Wow! That is big!

  34. 34.

    C Stars

    June 29, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    @Yutsano: Wow! Good to hear that you’re on the mend.

  35. 35.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 29, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    @Yutsano: And hopefully feeling better than when you went in. Get well soon.

  36. 36.

    VeniceRiley

    June 29, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    @MomSense: I don’t even know what that is! Neither one of us is close to femme enough to pull one off, I suspect.  But you’re very kind to offer.

  37. 37.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 29, 2020 at 7:10 pm

    @MomSense: What’s a wedding shawl

  38. 38.

    geg6

    June 29, 2020 at 7:12 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Oh yay!  So happy to see this!

    And happy Pride, ya’ll!

    Since it is an open thread, I can’t take any more politics today.  Usually, when I have vacation time off, I have so many things to do out and about that I use it as some politics downtime, but with COVID, my activities are highly restricted and I find myself obsessing.  So I want to tell you all about what I’m making for dinner.  It’s easy peasy but so delicious.  Spaghetti with sauce made from shallots, rosemary, artichoke hearts, olive oil, white wine, fontina cheese, heavy cream, prosciutto, peas and Parmesan.  Sooooo creamy and delicious, especially with the lovely cool Chardonnay I got yesterday on sale.  My mouth is watering as I cook.

  39. 39.

    trollhattan

    June 29, 2020 at 7:14 pm

    @Yutsano:

    What a relief. Good for you!

  40. 40.

    Martin

    June 29, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    Happy Pride, everyone. Lots of pent up energy in broader society right now ready to support the next wave of progress.

  41. 41.

    Martin

    June 29, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    @geg6: The peas seem out of place there, but that does indeed sound very good.

  42. 42.

    MomSense

    June 29, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    They can be whatever you like.  I’ve mostly done lace with seed beads (very small beads), but sometimes people like shrugs or capes if the weather is cool.  A tweed wrap with cables could be amazing.  Fair isle would be beautiful. Depends on the time of year and the kind of look you want.

  43. 43.

    NotMax

    June 29, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    @schrodingers_cat

    It’s different than a henway.

    :)

    @Yutsano

    Don’t steal the towels.

    ;)

  44. 44.

    Nicole

    June 29, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    @Yutsano: Hooray!  Glad to hear the good news.

  45. 45.

    Ninedragonspot

    June 29, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    The regular Taiwan pride falls on the last weekend in October (better weather – this weekend it was hot as blazes in Taipei and there was a downpour in the middle of the afternoon).  The October parade is, I believe, the biggest in Asia, and draws oodles of visitors from the region.  It’s been great fun the times I’ve gone – much less corporate than the SF pride parade, more heartfelt. (Since the Taipei parade roughly coincides with Halloween, it’s difficult to grab a drink in any bar – gay or straight – during that week, I sometimes skip town.)  Taiwan is my home away from home, and I am delighted with the progress they’ve been making towards equality.

    And it’s a good for reason for the world community to support Taiwan.  It’s a vibrant democracy and the DPP under Tsai Ing-Wen is working hard to help the country be the best possible version of itself.

  46. 46.

    VeniceRiley

    June 29, 2020 at 7:29 pm

    @MomSense: I’ll keep that in mind!  No idea what time of year everything will be back open, but the weather in SoCal is pretty consistent regardless

  47. 47.

    Delk

    June 29, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    @Yutsano: Yay!

  48. 48.

    Martin

    June 29, 2020 at 7:32 pm

    @VeniceRiley: Gonna be a while, I’m afraid. LA county projecting to run out of hospital beds in 3 weeks. Welcome back to March.

  49. 49.

    trollhattan

    June 29, 2020 at 7:32 pm

    Deli counter girl in Cork, 16, becomes semi-famous after somebody Tweets her geography Tick-Tok. The video and her note are both charming.

  50. 50.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 29, 2020 at 7:33 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Hey, I posted in another thread, after I told you about the visa situation, a couple of hours later they got an e-mail that the application has gone from CIS to NVC. Big relief, although it still seems the interview may be months away.

  51. 51.

    Caphilldcne

    June 29, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    Happy Pride, friends!  Missing the parade in DC this year but maybe next year!

  52. 52.

    NotMax

    June 29, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    Cranked out a more elaborate than usual product in the super duper bread machine yesterday. Recipe includes milk, molasses, 2 cups of cooked wild rice, and a bunch of other stuff.

    Looks great, smells great, haven’t performed a taste test yet. I guess the rice does something mystical when incorporated as the recipe calls for less than half the amount of yeast am used to putting in yet rose just as high as a normal loaf.

  53. 53.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 29, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    @Yutsano: Is it okay to tell people you were pregnant or are you still keeping it quiet?

  54. 54.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 29, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I saw that.  Great news.  Now on to Juarez, huh?

  55. 55.

    NotMax

    June 29, 2020 at 7:38 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Is it okay to tell people you were pregnant

    Mum’s the word.

    :)

  56. 56.

    UncleEbeneezer

    June 29, 2020 at 7:39 pm

    Do yourself a favor to wrap up Pride month and watch Disclosure on Netflix.  It’s really amazing and centers the voices of Transgender people while showing just how messed up (but improving) film/tv representation of Transgender people has been throughout history.

  57. 57.

    VeniceRiley

    June 29, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    @Martin: Oh, I know. I’m IT, but our Covid drive thru is right downstairs. I’m in OC but our LA clinics that have drive thru are doing volume.

  58. 58.

    MomSense

    June 29, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    Definitely think about it.  It’s a kind of moving meditation for me.  I think about the person and what they dream for themselves.  Sometimes beautiful things happen, like shawl babies.

  59. 59.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 29, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: At some point in the indefinite future.

  60. 60.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 29, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    @Yutsano: YAY!! That’s a helluva long hospital stay. I wish you good health from now on.

  61. 61.

    debbie

    June 29, 2020 at 7:53 pm

    @geg6:

    Jeez. Makes the leek and potato soup I made this afternoon seem like dishwater. Seriously, your dinner sounds really lovely. 🤤

  62. 62.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 29, 2020 at 7:53 pm

    @VeniceRiley: That’s really lovely news! Congratulations and best wishes to both of you. Hope it’s soon!

  63. 63.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 29, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    @Martin: The peas are probably a Sicilian touch – when I visited La Trinacria many years ago I found them in everything but the desserts, and for the most part it worked.

  64. 64.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 29, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: They probably have to wait for the embassies and consulates to open. BTW I heard that USCIS is getting rid of the interview requirement for many GC applications if everything is in order. Good luck!

    I must have missed your response, was it the same thread when I was told that immigration is my issue and discussing news about the visa ban shows my privilege.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 8:14 pm

    @Yutsano: Yippee!!!!!!

  66. 66.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    @MomSense: Do you have pics of any you have done?  I would be happy to put them in this thread for everyone to see.

  67. 67.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    June 29, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    @zhena gogolia: The contrast in leadership, intelligence and empathy is already pretty stark. It’s going to get a lot more interesting when Biden is eligible to see the daily Intel briefings which Trump has been ignoring. Which I guess happens Aug 20.

    I don’t know what useful things he can do with the info as a private citizen with no official role, but I suspect we’ll find out he can do more than we imagine.

  68. 68.

    MomSense

    June 29, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I have some ravelry project pages which have photos, but no photos that aren’t on my project page.

  69. 69.

    geg6

    June 29, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    @Martin:

    They are perfect.  Needed color and texture.  Otherwise, too much soft food of a beige/cream nature.

  70. 70.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 29, 2020 at 8:31 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Don’t know. It was a thread with a lot of comments; I didn’t read them all.

  71. 71.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 29, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I haven’t been on here much after that thread.  But no matter thanks for sharing the good news!

  72. 72.

    Marcopolo

    June 29, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:   Well, apparently Biden could start calling world leaders and doing shadow diplomacy, right?  Oh, my bad, Gen. Flynn didn’t start doing that until after Trump won but before he was sworn in.  But the polls are indicating it’s Biden’s to lose so why not be proactive & push the boundaries & see how far he can go?

    /s

    Btw, based on Sen. Murphy’s tweet about the Bounty intel, I think I must now watch Rachel when she comes on in a half hour.

  73. 73.

    geg6

    June 29, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Yes, I think you are right.

  74. 74.

    Marcopolo

    June 29, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    @geg6:   This sounds like a variation of pasta pizzelle.

    I dated a woman once who loved to make it and it was so good.  I still make it occasionally, though she was a vegetarian so no bacon whereas I’m like why not more when it comes to a bit of gammon.

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    June 29, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    @Marcopolo:   That CNN article by Carl Bernstein was long, appeared to be many sources (although mostly anonymous), and really troubling.  Although:  also pretty much what we Juicers would have expected.

    CNN: From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump’s phone calls alarm US officials

    The way he treats Angela Merkel. Ashamed for that. Although: she probably laughed to herself at how much she disturbs him.

  76. 76.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 29, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    I just reviewed the intel. It’s not a hoax, Mr. President. And if you continue ignoring the facts, more soldiers and marines are going to die. https://t.co/HPfZm3r6Lv— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) June 30, 2020

  77. 77.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @MomSense:  I asked MomSense to send me some photos so we could see what these are.  Beautiful!

  78. 78.

    Sab

    June 29, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @satby: My soap order arrived today. There were a couple of them that smelled so good I almost wanted to nibble on them ( oatmeal honey, and the sleepytime tea.)

    And the lavender cream is womderful, and subtle.

     

    @Martin: I thought peas in spaghetti sauce was weird to until I finally tasted it.

  79. 79.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @MomSense:

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @MomSense:

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    @MomSense:

  82. 82.

    Kelly

    June 29, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    This is new to me. First published April 29. Hilarious, very well done song parody

    “The Liar Tweets Tonight”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw

  83. 83.

    Kropacetic

    June 29, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    Was pretty happy with the dinner I made; a Chinese food inspired mac and cheese with red Chinese sausages, broccoli, five spice in the cheese sauce, chunks of fried egg, and an onion ring topping (I was outvoted on the chow mein noodles).  Getting great feedback

  84. 84.

    Miss Bianca

    June 29, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @Elizabelle: This article enraged me. WTF, all you brave ex-Trump Administration officials – have you all got Susan Collins Syndrome? As in, furrowing your brows and moaning, “oh, I *wish* he wouldn’t do that!” as Trump trashes years – no, generations – worth of US foreign relations and national security measures? Sure, the stuff in these calls was all classified, but Jesus Christ, that’s what hearings in the House and Senate Intelligence Committees are for!

    All of them gutless wonders. With the possible exception of Fiona Hill.

    And fuck each and every single purveyor of “But her emails”. May they all have to literally eat paper copies of these phone call transcriptions till they choke.

  85. 85.

    Jay

    June 29, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    Ok, which one of you psychos had *ANOTHER POTENTIAL PANDEMIC SWINE FLU VIRUS FROM CHINA* on their 2020 Bingo card?? https://t.co/xKLkPC5CFJ— Mubin Shaikh (@MrMubinShaikh) June 29, 2020

  86. 86.

    Baud

    June 29, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    The sources did cite some instances in which they said Trump acted responsibly and in the national interest during telephone discussions with some foreign leaders.

    Someone once said something about the curve for mediocre white men…

  87. 87.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @Kelly: I watched it in April and loved it, and it was just as good the second time!

    I loved this from YouTube:

    by Roy Zimmerman and The ReZisters, featuring Sandy Riccardi. Made in collaboration with the Raging Grannies of Mendocino.

  88. 88.

    Poe Larity

    June 29, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    You can’t have any immigrants if there is no immigrators:

    Approximately 13,400 employees of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services woke to find out they will be furloughed beginning in August, a move that will effectively bring the U.S. immigration system grinding to a halt.

  89. 89.

    VeniceRiley

    June 29, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    @WaterGirl: very pretty!

  90. 90.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 29, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    Since this is an open thread, can someone explain the difference between Karen and Becky to me?  Aside from the fact that Becky has the good hair?

  91. 91.

    Kelly

    June 29, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    @WaterGirl: Roy Zimmerman’s back catalog looks like it’ll keep me giggling for hours.

  92. 92.

    Elizabelle

    June 29, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    @Baud:   Yeah.  I winced at that line.  And it was … kind of lonely in the story,  actually.

  93. 93.

    FlyingToaster

    June 29, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Karen wants to speak with your manager, or if it’s public space, calls the police on you.

    Becky dates Chad, and more importantly, won’t date incels.

  94. 94.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: And who is Jan???

  95. 95.

    Kropacetic

    June 29, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Becky is famed for being the audience of the disparagement of big butts and speculation that the owner of said butt is one of those rap guys’ girlfriends.

    @WaterGirl: And who is Jan???

    Brady?

  96. 96.

    Elizabelle

    June 29, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    @WaterGirl:   @ MomSense:

    Those are just spectacular shawls.  Beautiful.  And I love the porch and window, too.

  97. 97.

    Baud

    June 29, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    Twitch has temporarily suspended Donald Trump’s account. The company says the channel’s broadcast of the President’s Tulsa Rally and recent re-airing of one of his 2016 campaign stops violated its hateful conduct and harassment policies. The comments Twitch took issue with feature the President making negative comments about Mexican migrants

    The Great American Pie Filter is gearing up.

  98. 98.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 29, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    @FlyingToaster: So Becky can be a Karen, vice versa?

  99. 99.

    zhena gogolia

    June 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Karen is white and Becky is black, I believe. “Good hair” is an expression in the black community.

  100. 100.

    zhena gogolia

    June 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Brady Bunch.

  101. 101.

    MomSense

    June 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    My dad’s porch.  The ocean is across the street.  Whenever we are there we end up just sitting on the porch all day.

  102. 102.

    Baud

    June 29, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Right. But why include it all? Reporters writing about the Golden State Killer don’t mention all the people he hasn’t killed.

  103. 103.

    jonas

    June 29, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    @Baud:The sources did cite some instances in which they said Trump acted responsibly and in the national interest during telephone discussions with some foreign leaders.

    Profiles in Courage

  104. 104.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 29, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    @Krop The Acetic Acidulous Ascetic: No vinegar? None? Then what the hell’s “acetic” doing in your nym??? I demand a recount, a refund, a reboot!

    (NB just noticed that “Krop” is pork spelled backwards. Soooooweeeeee!  :^p)

  105. 105.

    Baud

    June 29, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    Soon everyone will be like “Becky, when the walls fell” and I’m going to feel totally lost and alone.

  106. 106.

    FlyingToaster

    June 29, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Rarely.  Most Becky’s are more concerned with appearance rather than trying to make everyone conform to their personal lifestyle.

  107. 107.

    Kropacetic

    June 29, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: As in copacetic

  108. 108.

    🐾BillinGlendaleCA

    June 29, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    “Good hair” is an expression in the black community.

    Or what you’d call the former Secretary of Energy and Governor of Texas.

  109. 109.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @Kropacetic: Betty’s thread was titled “Sure, Jan”.

  110. 110.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    @Baud: And they never called me once for the cute pictures.

  111. 111.

    Kropacetic

    June 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @WaterGirl: Yeah, even then I kind of assumed a reference to Jan Brady.  Just the impression it left.

  112. 112.

    Baud

    June 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Jan from the Brady Bunch.  “Sure, Jan” is a well known line that Marsha says to Jan.  I don’t know the context, but it’s meant to be sarcastic.

  113. 113.

    Jay

    June 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Karen defined:p

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=Karen&amp=true

    Becky defined:

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Becky

  114. 114.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 29, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    @Kropacetic: So, “police vinegar” tacked onto dyslexic pigmeat. Makes poifick sense. ::rollseyes::

  115. 115.

    Kropacetic

    June 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: Are you quite alright?

  116. 116.

    WaterGirl

    June 29, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    @Baud: Thank you.  I thought people were kidding when they said Jan Brady.  Clearly I did not watch enough Brady Bunch growing up.

    *things I never thought I would say

  117. 117.

    satby

    June 29, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    @Sab: Glad you like tgem, thanks!

  118. 118.

    laura

    June 29, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    @Yutsano: that’s good news- continue your recovery and rest in the comforts of home. Take care, rest and be well.

  119. 119.

    Anne Laurie

    June 30, 2020 at 2:54 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: So Becky can be a Karen, vice versa?

    The way I’ve seen it used, Becky is the larval form of Karen.  Becky uses her youthful sex appeal as a get-out-of-jail free card and/or to intimidate ‘lesser’ beings (not-hot, not-white, not-prosperous).  Karen is Becky’s mom, who uses her social standing as a Member of the Best Community to insist that she must speak to the manager, right this minute (even when ‘the manager’ is that mysterious entity which foolishly allowed it to rain on a day when she had previously scheduled her big catered garden party).

    I understand the appeal of the meme(s), but yeah they’re pretty sexist, and tend to be used lazily, especially by Cosplay Socialists on twitter and the media village idiots who follow them.

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