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You are here: Home / Healthcare / COVID-19 Coronavirus / These Fucking Idiots

These Fucking Idiots

by John Cole|  June 22, 20203:44 pm| 123 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19 Coronavirus

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Governor asks that Texans wear masks. "Our goal is to keep Texans out of hospitals and to reduce the number of Texans who test positive…COVID hasn't simply gone away. We don't have to choose between jobs and health. We can have both."

— Tony Plohetski (@tplohetski) June 22, 2020

Maybe you should have been urging people to wear fucking masks months ago before it became a huge issue in Texas LIKE ALL THE FUCKING MAYORS BEGGED YOU TO DO.

There really should be a way to sue and prosecute governors and mayors and Presidents for negligence.

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  1. 1.

    bbleh

    June 22, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    Now now, if we didn’t have dumbass idiots in official positions then we wouldn’t have truly representative government.

    It’s all about respect for the Constitution, see?

  2. 2.

    opiejeanne

    June 22, 2020 at 3:47 pm

    Amen.

    Watching them suddenly express concern makes me want to heave.

  3. 3.

    LuciaMia

    June 22, 2020 at 3:48 pm

    Love the “.COVID hasn’t simply gone away.” comment. A little dig at Herr Trumpov?

  4. 4.

    yellowdog

    June 22, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    @LuciaMia: He wouldn’t  dare. He’ll be forced to take it back.

  5. 5.

    bemused

    June 22, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    So who is Abbott going to blame for what he did?

  6. 6.

    satby

    June 22, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    We have a seriously broken country.

  7. 7.

    Geoduck

    June 22, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    And if the Shiatgibbon would just come and say it as well, it would help even more. And it would be so easy, with no work required on his part.  Just waddle out, hold up a MAGA2020 Mask(tm) in his stubby little mitts and say “Be an American Warrior! Defeat the Invisible Chinese Enemy! Mask Up!” He wouldn’t even have to put it on. And his idiot followers would do a 180, form MagaMask Squads(tm) and roam their neighborhood stapling them to people’s faces.

  8. 8.

    Kent

    June 22, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    Just like a dead fish, the rot in the GOP starts at the head.  If Trump was wearing a mask and promoting their use then every damn one of those governors would have fallen in line and done the same.

    It all comes back to Trump.

  9. 9.

    Calouste

    June 22, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    As Churchill said, you can count on Republicans to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else.

  10. 10.

    Tony Jay

    June 22, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    Haven’t you heard, Cole? Because the Incredibly Shrinking Man needs to downplay the scale of the pandemic for electoral reasons, that makes anything to do with C-19 a partisan issue. So any attempt to seek legal redress against Republicans would be criminalising policy differences, and that would be bad, as in much, much worse than any loss of life stemming from those policies could ever be.

    Only (non-GOP) people fail, not the system.

  11. 11.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 22, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    Why I, as a conservative, support Joe Biden:It's not just because it's the right thing to do.I'm asking all my followers to retweet this. I want people to know we are not what Trump and his fascists are. pic.twitter.com/6tOlZixg0j— Contented Independent (@ContentedIndie) June 22, 2020

  12. 12.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    Governor asks that Texans wear masks. “Our goal is to keep Texans out of hospitals and to reduce the number of Texans who test positive…COVID hasn’t simply gone away. We don’t have to choose between jobs and health. We can have both.”

    Too late asshole. You should’ve been doing this back in April and May, instead of trying to fellate Trump

  13. 13.

    Benw

    June 22, 2020 at 3:58 pm

    The parts of the US that are opening up are basically heading down the basement stairs where the coronavirus wielding maniac is waiting while the rest of the world covers their eyes in horror and screams FOR GODS SAKE DONT GO DOWN THERE

  14. 14.

    Mary G

    June 22, 2020 at 3:59 pm

    I commented yesterday about Abbott refusing to have the Houston and San Antonio papers at his press conference about the virus. Banana republic anyone?

  15. 15.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    Reposting from below. DeSantis changed how hospitals report numbers of ICU patients:

    He only wants hospitals to report number of patients in ICU beds who require an “intensive level of care.”

    Beyond all that, doesn’t this basically give hospitals an out to report as they did before? If you’re in the ICU, you’re going to require an “intensive level of care.”

    DeSantis: Only report ICU patients that require an intensive level of care

    FL hospitals: *reports all ICU patients*

    DeSantis: No, not like that!

  16. 16.

    Kent

    June 22, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    @Calouste:As Churchill said, you can count on Republicans to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else.

    No, you can’t.  Wearing masks is the most trivial of measures.  The state of TX is basically wide open for business right now.  They aren’t even thinking about any actual hard measures.

  17. 17.

    kindness

    June 22, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    Prosecuting on charges of stupidity would bring the courts to a stand still.

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2020 at 4:03 pm

    Houston, we have a problem.

    Also Dallas, Fort Worth, Austin, El Paso, Amarillo, Corpus Christi….

  19. 19.

    Gravenstone

    June 22, 2020 at 4:04 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I doubt there are many ICU who will be allowing non-critical patients to take up such limited resources. If they’re in ICU, they probably require critical care.

  20. 20.

    Edmund Dantes

    June 22, 2020 at 4:04 pm

    Did he rescind his order that made it illegal for local areas to mandate masks? If not, fuck him.

  21. 21.

    Dupe1970

    June 22, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    Whatever terrible things may befall Abbott it will pale in comparison to the harm he has caused.

    – A Texan

  22. 22.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    @Mary G:

    I commented yesterday about Abbott refusing to have the Houston and San Antonio papers at his press conference about the virus. Banana republic anyone?

    The modern GOP has no coherent ideology. It’s all about pure power. Enriching themselves and hurting those they hate.

    I’m sure Abbot loves to talk a good game about “freedom” and Republicans in general love to talk about local control and federalism. However, their actions show they don’t give a shit about any of that if it means a city wants to set it’s minimum wage higher than the state or federal government, for example. Or allowing media to their conferences that might embarrass them.

  23. 23.

    Dupe1970

    June 22, 2020 at 4:07 pm

    @Edmund Dantes: No. Worse. County Judge Wolf (Bexar County) mandated all businesses require it or be fined and Abbott said aha you figured out my riddle. And it made me want to smack him around for not saying that cities could do this when he first announced his grand reopening plan. I am spitting venom here.

  24. 24.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    June 22, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    I always thought that, post -Ann Richards ( and probably before) Texans found the most stupid man in the state and made him governor. Now it looks like a tie between him and the Lt. Gov. who wanted the olds to sacrifice themselves for the economy.

    And people live there on purpose???

  25. 25.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    @Edmund Dantes:

    GOP: We love federalism and local control!

    States make it illegal for localities to remove Confederate Statues

    GOP: Yes, excellent!

    A Democratic controlled metro area wants to make masks mandatory

    GOP: No, not like that!

  26. 26.

    MattF

    June 22, 2020 at 4:11 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Uh, what? ‘Don’t report the intensive care patients who are not receiving intensive care‘? Are we dealing with someone whose attention span isn’t long enough to last to the end of the sentence he’s speaking?

  27. 27.

    Bill Arnold

    June 22, 2020 at 4:13 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Too late asshole. You should’ve been doing this back in April and May, instead of trying to fellate Trump

    Well, no, late is a lot better than never.
    Abbot is full of shit.
    On June 3 2020 he forbid local governments making mask wearing indoors in public places mandatory.[1] Now, June 22, he’s saying that what he really meant was that local governments could require that local business make mask wearing mandatory in their the business places, but he didn’t tell anyone about this for 2.5 weeks.
    This is 2.5 weeks of epidemic time, and the delay will result in many thousands of cases and many deaths. Those deaths, and the disabilities among survivors, will be his fault.
    Gov. Greg Abbott faces criticism from local leaders and fellow Republicans over masks (Valeria Olivares, Jun 22, 2020)

    City and county officials, some of whom signed on to a letter asking for the power to mandate face masks, fault Abbott for two things. They say he should have explicitly told them that businesses could require face masks. And, they say, his lack of a statewide mandate even as he emphasized the importance of wearing a mask prompted some Texans to let their guards down against taking precautions to stop the virus’ spread.

    [1] ” the governor issued an executive order June 3 banning local governments from imposing fines or criminal penalties on people who don’t wear masks in public”

  28. 28.

    Ohio Mom

    June 22, 2020 at 4:13 pm

    As someone much smarter than Abbott once said,”Reality has a way of catching up to you.” Governor, you’ve been tagged.

    You’ll note that Reality is not at all winded from the sprint to catch Abbott, and it is now loping off in some other Republican official’s direction. I’m wishing it Godspeed because this seems to be the only thing that is getting through to Red state governors.

  29. 29.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2020 at 4:18 pm

    Disgusting NASCAR news, via CNN

    Department of Justice investigators said Monday they are looking into the noose that was found in NASCAR star Bubba Wallace’s garage stall.

    “The U.S. Attorney’s office for the Northern District of Alabama, FBI and the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division are reviewing the situation surrounding the noose that was found in Bubba Wallace’s garage to determine whether there are violations of federal law,” US Attorney Jay E. Town said in statement.

    “Regardless of whether federal charges can be brought, this type of action has no place in our society.”

    The announcement came a day after NASCAR said a noose was found in Wallace’s garage stall and launched its own investigation into the matter.

    “We are angry and outraged, and cannot state strongly enough how seriously we take this heinous act,” NASCAR’s statement read. “We have launched an immediate investigation, and will do everything we can to identify the person(s) responsible and eliminate them from the sport.”

    The racing organization also said the incident “only strengthens our resolve to make the sport open and welcoming to all.”

    Wallace, the only Black driver in NASCAR’s top circuit, has been an outspoken advocate of the Black Lives Matter movement and the corresponding protests against systemic racism and police brutality. He wore an “I Can’t Breathe” shirt before one event, repainted his car with the “Black Lives Matter” phrase and called on NASCAR to ban the Confederate flag, which the organization agreed to do June 10.

    A source with Richard Petty Motorsports told CNN that Wallace never saw the noose. A member of his team discovered it and immediately brought it to NASCAR’s attention, the source said.
    Wallace is set to race at Talladega at 3:10 p.m. Monday after rain postponed Sunday’s race. One driver told CNN that NASCAR drivers are planning a show of support for Wallace before the race.

    NASCAR drivers offer Bubba Wallace show of support after noose found in his garage

    NASCAR drivers, pit crew members and others walked alongside Bubba Wallace and escorted his Number 43 car in a show of support at the Talladega Superspeedway on Monday a day after a noose was found in his garage.

    In a video tweeted by NASCAR Executive Vice President Steve O’Donnell, Wallace’s car is being followed and pushed down pit row by a large procession of people. Wallace, wearing an American flag face mask, was emotional while hugging drivers and supporters, including NASCAR legend Richard Petty.

  30. 30.

    Calouste

    June 22, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    @Kent: There is a lot of everything else to try, not sure they’ll ever get around to the right thing.

  31. 31.

    Ben Cisco

    June 22, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    @bemused:

    So who is Abbott going to blame for what he did?

    Won’t be Who, he’s on first.

    I’ll see myself out.

  32. 32.

    Subsole

    June 22, 2020 at 4:22 pm

     

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): English cannot express how much I fucking loathe these assholes.

    Seriously, I try not to be that kind of Texan, but I wish Greg would fuck off back to Mynot where he belongs.

    He can take Dan Fucking Patrick with him.

  33. 33.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 22, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Richard Petty is like a hundred years old. If they’re trotting him out, they’re worried about what this might do to their ratings.

  34. 34.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2020 at 4:25 pm

    @MattF:

    @Gravenstone:

    I know, right? I just hope that the hospitals in Florida continue to report the truth and don’t give into political pressure. I’ve heard that the state health department down there has been very crooked, so maybe the hospitals could get the real data out to the media if the Florida Department of Health and DeSantis won’t be truthful

  35. 35.

    raven

    June 22, 2020 at 4:26 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: He’s 82.

  36. 36.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 22, 2020 at 4:26 pm

    I just got the nicest note out of the blue. An older woman who read the Herald article about me wrote to say she’s decided that in her late 60s, she wasn’t too old to make art after all. I flinched at that article because it had my age in the first line, but evidently it helped someone.

    Also, I blogged today. Colbert sometimes does a bit where he reads the final and first drafts of greeting cards. I decided to blog about first and final drafts of the first paragraphs of my books. Much revision! Beginnings are really hard. (My website it glitchy right now. If it doesn’t come up, just reload.)

  37. 37.

    Ben Cisco

    June 22, 2020 at 4:27 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Petty is the team owner for the #43 car, Wallace’s ride. He hasn’t attended an event since C-19 started due to his age, but decided a statement needed to be made.

    Had to know this was going to be a fight to the end. The problem is not that it’s happening now, but that it hadn’t already been done. Haters gonna lose.

  38. 38.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 22, 2020 at 4:27 pm

    @raven:

    As a friend of mine used to say, younger than Elrond, older than dirt.

  39. 39.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2020 at 4:27 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    I’m sure ratings are what they’re worried about, but it seems like even the top leadership of NASCAR know Wallace at some level. They see him as one of them. Plus, it’s a fucking noose. That’s like burning a cross in a yard or wearing a white hood. It’s the kind of obviously violent racist shit that a lot of white people do not like.

    NASCAR is an organization that has tried to appeal outside of the South since the late 90s and early 2000s. They were very popular for awhile and after a long decline, they seemed to have begun to stabilize w/ popularity. They had to condemn this, but good on them either way.

  40. 40.

    Subsole

    June 22, 2020 at 4:28 pm

     

    @Kent:  Yeah, turns out getting 85% of your state budget from sales tax might not be such a good idea. Especially when it panics you into lethally stupid shit like this.

    We are screwed. I mean “F U K T” screwed.

  41. 41.

    Jess

    June 22, 2020 at 4:28 pm

    @bemused: Antifa–duh!

  42. 42.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 22, 2020 at 4:30 pm

    Sarah Cooper can take down Trump with a pinky finger.

    And happy birthday, John.

  43. 43.

    danielx

    June 22, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Or trying to control fossil fuel development inside city limits. Can’t have locals interfering with the bidness climate, you know, especially the fucking hippies in Austin.

  44. 44.

    leeleeFL

    June 22, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): IF, you say?

    I haven’t trusted a word DeSantis has said since he came home from DC with Oval Office fibers on his knees!

    IF doesn’t even begin to tell the story.

  45. 45.

    Jeffro

    June 22, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    Thank god for sensible, educated, DEMOCRATIC governors.

    So, it’s now getting to be late June and the country as a whole is not coming ‘down the mountain’ – the blue states are.  These big red states are about to put on an improv performance of New York II: Covid Boogaloo that’ll last them through the summer, easily.

    Realizing that we are in an environment where even 9:00 a.m. events have usually been overtaken by whatever happens at noon…the whole country is teed up for a four-month-long painful education in which party/party leaders have a half a brain (and have the country’s citizens’ best interests at heart), and which ones clearly DO NOT.  That almost has to have an impact, and Biden’s already well ahead.

  46. 46.

    catclub

    June 22, 2020 at 4:33 pm

    @Kent: Plus I am pretty sure Churchill said it about ‘The Americans”, but I suspect the original commenter knew that and forgot a sarcasm tag.

  47. 47.

    Subsole

    June 22, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    @Boris Rasputin (the evil twin):

    It has its charms.

    I know I dump on it a lot, but do bear in mind our state is like Warsaw Pact level gerrymandered. We are probably closer to purple than most folks realize.

    Our major cities are as progressive as any, and even the smaller towns can surprise you, especially if there’s a university nearby.

    Our big problem is apathy, really. Liberal blocs just do not show up.

  48. 48.

    danielx

    June 22, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    @Geoduck:

    Wouldn’t work. Turning on the mental dime like that requires powers forbidden to ordinary mortals. Only Faux Nooz commentators can do it.

  49. 49.

    Ben Cisco

    June 22, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
     

    It’s the kind of obviously violent racist shit that a lot of white people do not like

    Quite right – and the hunt is on.

  50. 50.

    Roger Moore

    June 22, 2020 at 4:36 pm

    @Calouste: 

    As Churchill said, you can count on Republicans to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else.

    The difference with Trump is there’s no longer any reason to think they’ll eventually decide to do the right thing, even when they have tried everything else. They’d much rather do nothing at all.

  51. 51.

    Barry

    June 22, 2020 at 4:38 pm

    @Gravenstone: “I doubt there are many ICU who will be allowing non-critical patients to take up such limited resources. If they’re in ICU, they probably require critical care.”

     

    I would lay money that by now, Texas hospitals are working to move non-COVID ICU patients (and acute/critical care) to other hospitals, to make room.

     

    They will know that the cases follow infections by 2-3 weeks, and that behavior will likely not change for longer.  Things are baked in for a month or two, if things go well.

  52. 52.

    Mike in NC

    June 22, 2020 at 4:38 pm

    Just like avoiding STDs at nightclubs in the 1970s and 80s, Fat Bastard will brag about not getting Covid-19 in 2020 as his personal Vietnam War.

  53. 53.

    Betty

    June 22, 2020 at 4:39 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Seeing the NASCAR drivers wearing masks is a good sign that maybe the message is getting out that masks aren’t really a Democratic thing.

  54. 54.

    catclub

    June 22, 2020 at 4:41 pm

    McEnany denied that Berman had been fired due to his Giuliani investigation or any others related to Trump’s allies.

    Rep. Don Beyer (D-VA) didn’t buy the White House’s explanation for Berman’s removal, calling it “one of the stupidest and least believable excuses for government corruption I’ve ever heard.”

     

    Berman should have objected to the firing because it was prima facie obstruction of justice.

  55. 55.

    MattF

    June 22, 2020 at 4:44 pm

    @catclub: Which is why Trump claimed he had nothing to do with it. ‘Cept for actually doing the firing…

  56. 56.

    Geoboy

    June 22, 2020 at 4:46 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Isn’t Texas governor Abbott the guy who used a state liability law to successfully collect three million dollars when an accident left him paralyzed from the waist down, but then had the law changed so that no one else could use it the way he did?

  57. 57.

    Subsole

    June 22, 2020 at 4:48 pm

    @Jeffro: I know the business-conservatives of my acquaintance are pretty damn livid about this.

    Like, they really do NOT appreciate this kind of wanton fuckupery. Don’t know if it’ll change their votes, but they seem almost viscerally revolted just by the sheer  incompetence.

  58. 58.

    Subsole

    June 22, 2020 at 4:51 pm

    @Geoboy: That’s him. He is an odious piece of shit.

  59. 59.

    Ben Cisco

    June 22, 2020 at 4:51 pm

    @Geoboy: Yup! Classic GOP move.

  60. 60.

    Kent

    June 22, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    @Boris Rasputin (the evil twin):

    I always thought that, post -Ann Richards ( and probably before) Texans found the most stupid man in the state and made him governor. Now it looks like a tie between him and the Lt. Gov. who wanted the olds to sacrifice themselves for the economy.

    And people live there on purpose???

    Having lived in TX I can assure you that the Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is more stupid, venal and evil.  Governor Abbott is mainstream TX GOP.  So your mainstream bad.   Patrick is a true horror.

  61. 61.

    Kent

    June 22, 2020 at 4:54 pm

    @Roger Moore:The difference with Trump is there’s no longer any reason to think they’ll eventually decide to do the right thing, even when they have tried everything else. They’d much rather do nothing at all.

    No, they’d rather do the WRONG thing.  Like tax cuts for billionaires and deregulate the oil industry to address the pandemic.

  62. 62.

    Peale

    June 22, 2020 at 5:02 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): seems like he only wants to count patients in icu wards, which will cap numbers since he won’t be counting patients in the rest of the hospital. So as hospitals convert other beds when their icus get crowded, those patients won’t be counted properly even if intubated.

  63. 63.

    Subsole

    June 22, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    @Kent: It reminds me of that Farside cartoon where a couple of lab animals are sitting in the dining room and one of them says “Stimulus, response. Stimulus, response! Don’t you ever THINK?!”

    It is frustrating as hell. We could really make a killing on green energy here, especially out west.

    Our art/cultural scenes are pretty vibrant, too. Especially El Paso and San Antonio.

    Like, this state has a LOT of squandered potential.

  64. 64.

    Doc Sardonic

    June 22, 2020 at 5:06 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Not to be overly sarcastic but

    if the Florida Department of Health and DeSantis won’t be truthful

    Is kinda like saying it gets hot in Florida in the summer, Rick Scott is bald and Marco Rubio is short and stupid. It also makes you wonder what kind of unseemly things Ron DeSantis did to or with the faculty to get through law school.

  65. 65.

    Subsole

    June 22, 2020 at 5:11 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):  This. The racial slurs are the only honesty I’ve seen out of the GOP in my approximately 40 years.

    The rest was just soap bubbles full of horseshit.

  66. 66.

    Keith G

    June 22, 2020 at 5:15 pm

    As those of us in Texas know, Abbot’s behavior is worse than what has been described above. The Harris County Judge, our chief executive of the county, as well as the mayor of the city of Houston, put out regulations requiring masks back in March. Governor Abbott shortly thereafter decreed that it was illegal for them to do so and the requirements came down.

    If one does agree with the experts that masks do prevent a certain number of infections, then one can assign the blame for a certain number of infections and a certain number of deaths right onto the head of the governor of Texas.

    As a personal note, the job I do here in Houston is public-facing. The company I work for decided against requiring masks for all those wishing to enter establishments run by the parent company. The reason given was that the subject was too political and the leadership of the company do not want to get involved in such a debate.

    Sweet. Jesus.

  67. 67.

    tokyokie

    June 22, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    @bemused:

     

    So who is Abbott going to blame for what he did?

     

    Hillary, of course. With funding from Soros.

  68. 68.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    Isn’t there some saying down in Texas about a horse having already left the barn or something?

  69. 69.

    Miss Bianca

    June 22, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: OMG, that might be the best one yet. The slithering off the chair at the end was a LOL for me.

  70. 70.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 22, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    It was never about illegal immigration. The Orange One is suspending the issuance of almost all new long term visas and some categories of green cards. If this includes student visas this will be a body blow to many universities.

  71. 71.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    @tokyokie: “A Soros-Clinton space laser beamed stupidity rays into my head for three straight months, causing me to completely mismanage a pandemic and place business interests above the public good! Curse them!”

  72. 72.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    @Boris Rasputin (the evil twin):And people live there on purpose???

    Well, the taxes are really low. Including those on funeral services.

  73. 73.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    @Geoduck:

    roam their neighborhood stapling them to people’s faces. 

    LOL

    And true because Republicans truly are “reprogrammable meatbags.” (h/t Mr_Electrico/driftglass)

  74. 74.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    @Kent: I can assure you that the Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is more stupid, venal and evil.

    And from what I understand (not being from Texas), it’s actually the Lt. Gov. who really runs the show. (That’s why a lot of people, including Molly Ivins, warned people re: GW Bush that having been governor of Texas is not “executive experience” in the way we would normally think of it)

  75. 75.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:If this includes student visas this will be a body blow to many universities.

    For this crew, that’s of course a feature, not a bug.

  76. 76.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 22, 2020 at 5:37 pm

    @jonas: Of course.  F-1 visas don’t’ seem to be in the list.

  77. 77.

    bowtiejack

    June 22, 2020 at 5:37 pm

    @bbleh: 
    Back when Nixon was nominating some Southern mediocrity to the Supreme Court (either G. Harold Carswell or Clement Haynsworth), and objections were made to that very “mediocrity”, one of the Midwestern GOP senators (probably Capehart or Hickenlooper) argued that mediocre people had a right to be represented on the Supreme Court.
    I kid you not.

  78. 78.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    @Jeffro:So, it’s now getting to be late June and the country as a whole is not coming ‘down the mountain’ – the blue states are.  These big red states are about to put on an improv performance of New York II: Covid Boogaloo that’ll last them through the summer, easily.

    “New York II — Covid Bugaloo”: I think I’ll steal that one. But to the point, what the hell did they think would happen to their tourist economies this summer if the state is awash in Covid? You think people are going to be lining up to hit Disney World now? Or beach bars? Total insanity.

  79. 79.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    @Kent: Doing the wrong, corrupt thing owns the libs.

  80. 80.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Oh, ok. That’s good. What about for foreign scientists and academics working at US universities?

  81. 81.

    jonas

    June 22, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    @Subsole:Our art/cultural scenes are pretty vibrant, too. Especially El Paso and San Antonio.

    I caught the new Padma Lakshmi travel/food program on Hulu last night and she was in El Paso/Ciudad Juarez. What a neat place. I had just eaten a huge meal and it still made me hungry again. Highly recommended. 

  82. 82.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 22, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    @jonas: The new order does not affect those already in the United States.

  83. 83.

    MattF

    June 22, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    @bowtiejack: Senator Roman Hruska. Comment made him famous. Briefly.

  84. 84.

    robertodeoso

    June 22, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    @bowtiejack: it was Roman Hruska, I think.

  85. 85.

    KSinMA

    June 22, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: That’s a great blog post–thanks!

  86. 86.

    Jeffro

    June 22, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: should be prime ad material, aimed at corporate America and universities…”do you like what’s happened to your business under trumpov?”

  87. 87.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 22, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @Jeffro: His goal is to make the United States  another Russia, a has been with nuclear weapons.

  88. 88.

    Jeffro

    June 22, 2020 at 6:04 pm

    @jonas: they cannot think past “the opposite of whatever the libs want”, not even for a second.

    can’t pretend your way back to a healthy economy, GOP.  The virus…and 70% of the country…just doesn’t care.

  89. 89.

    Jeffro

    June 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I really think he’s into the “let’s just wreck shit” phase now.  Losing re-election is The End for him, a narcissistic injury for the ages as well as criminal prosecutions, bankruptcy, etc etc

  90. 90.

    Kay

    June 22, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    Ed O’Keefe
    @edokeefe
    President Trump’s comments at an Oklahoma campaign rally about slowing down testing for #Coronavirus were just “a passing observation” and not meant in jest,
    @VP
    Pence told governors on Monday, multiple people on the call tell
    @cbsnews
    .

    As they get worse and worse inside the Trump Administration, they are increasingly unable to keep the lies straight even among themselves. This is like when they gassed the protestors and lied about it- this is the third explanation.

  91. 91.

    Mike G

    June 22, 2020 at 6:16 pm

    Forget it, Jake. It’s not just stupid, it’s Big Texas Stupid.
    They deliberately chose a ruling party that makes stupid people feel good about being stupid, ignorant bigots.

  92. 92.

    coin operated

    June 22, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    @jonas: And from what I understand (not being from Texas), it’s actually the Lt. Gov. who really runs the show. (That’s why a lot of people, including Molly Ivins, warned people re: GW Bush that having been governor of Texas is not “executive experience” in the way we would normally think of it)

     

    The TX Legislature meets for 140 days every 2 years, and it is the Lt. Gov. who sets the agenda.  You want a bill passed?  If Patrick says no, it won’t ever see the light of day.

    {edit for clarity}

  93. 93.

    Kay

    June 22, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    Conservative governors really had a chance to do this differently but still DO something. No one ordered them to take the Cuomo approach. They could have come up with their own. Masks make the most sense for conservatives because they’re cheap and easy – it requires no effort  or investment from government at all- put a mask order in. Easy. That could have been the Right’s calling card- universal masks. But they were too stubbornly dumb to do even that.

  94. 94.

    Geoduck

    June 22, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Even that’s giving him too much credit. He doesn’t care what happens to the US. All he cares about is his own adulation levels and wealth.

  95. 95.

    Kay

    June 22, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    It would have been worthwhile even as an experiment. “What happens when government does nothing other than ordering everyone to wear a mask?”

    If it worked and transmission rates fell or stayed low we could all do it and they could claim a big business-friendly win. They’re not even competent or rational within the narrow confines of their ideology. They’re just bad at their jobs.

  96. 96.

    bemused

    June 22, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    @Ben Cisco:

     

    @Jess:

    Heh!

  97. 97.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 22, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    @Geoduck: He is Putin. Orangina is the means to achieving that end.

  98. 98.

    Kirk Spencer

    June 22, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    @Keith G: my sympathies. The public facing units of my company are mask mandatory for us and visitors/customers, Abbot be damned.

    Of course, the public facing units are only a small part of the business, which helps.

  99. 99.

    Roger Moore

    June 22, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    @Kay:

    They can’t do anything right because doing stuff right would undermine their belief that the government is always bad.  The belief that government is incompetent is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  100. 100.

    Mike in Pasadena

    June 22, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    Is the Texas guv some kinda pinko commie lieburral?

  101. 101.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    @Jeffro: I really think he’s into the “let’s just wreck shit” phase now. Losing re-election is The End for him, a narcissistic injury for the ages as well as criminal prosecutions, bankruptcy, etc etc

    And ultimately being hanged by his fat, orange, fascist neck until dead – hopefully.

    We know how to hang convicted Nazi trash.

  102. 102.

    topclimber

    June 22, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    @Kay: I will set the bar even lower. How about GOP leaders just modeling good behavior from the outset, both wearing masks in public and calling for voluntary compliance?

    “We count on Americans doing the right thing, without the nanny state forcing them.” MAGA masks, flag masks, Hillary Sucks masks all over the place!

  103. 103.

    leeleeFL

    June 22, 2020 at 7:33 pm

    @bowtiejack: my idiot sibling argued that exact point about Wasilla Wendy.  Something like, ” she’s like lots of ‘Murcans!”. Haven’t realty spoken to him since, except to tell him our Mom died.

  104. 104.

    leeleeFL

    June 22, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    @jonas: Jesus, I sure hope not!  I flippin’ live here!

  105. 105.

    Peale

    June 22, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    @Kay: They could have even done that thing that they like to allow where businesses could deduct 10X the cost of a mask from their employees’ take home pay and kept the difference.

  106. 106.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 22, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    @Calouste: You can’t count on Republicans to do the right thing until they’ve stolen everything that isn’t nailed down, and usually not then either. Fkm!

  107. 107.

    J R in WV

    June 22, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    June 22, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    It was never about illegal immigration. The Orange One is suspending the issuance of almost all new long term visas and some categories of green cards. If this includes student visas this will be a body blow to many universities.

    Yes. Universities are institutions of higher learning. Republicans hate learning, thus this plan is about to work just as they want. Universities failing financially. Double plus good to Trump!!!

  108. 108.

    Frankensteinbeck

    June 22, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    @Mike G:

    They deliberately chose a ruling party that makes stupid people feel good about being stupid, ignorant bigots.

    Core dynamic of the Republican Party right there, and why they nominated and elected Donald Trump.

  109. 109.

    StringOnAStick

    June 22, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    Yesterday my husband and I did a brutal steel gravel hike to get to a dome for some rock climbing, just off the main channel of the South Platte river West of Denver.  The river was crowded with fish hunters and picnic ing families.  We had the place to ourselves with was gorgeous but for hours of listening to ammosexuals burning through hundreds of dollars in bullets; lots of 20 bullet bursts so we know semiautos were involved.  I figured they needed to burn up some anger after Dear Leader ended up looking like a loser in Tulsa.  Later saw the Sheriff rushing that direction probably because there was some obvious use of exploding targets which is currently banned due to high fire danger.

  110. 110.

    Jinchi

    June 22, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    @topclimber: How about GOP leaders just modeling good behavior from the outset, both wearing masks in public and calling for voluntary compliance?

    The exasperating thing is that if Trump had simply told his base to put on a damn mask for 2 weeks, we probably would have crushed this. He wouldn’t even have to wear one himself, since they don’t give a damn whether he follows his own rules.

  111. 111.

    rikyrah

    June 22, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    So, let’s look at where we are in this election cycle.

    The NYT has made some staff changes that scream -WATCH OUT FOR THE UPCOMING PHUCKERY.

    These people have not earned the benefit of the doubt and should not be given any. When you see it, call it out, and push that call out on as many platforms as you can.

    Make no mistake, those muthaphuckas are looking for the ‘ BUT HER EMAILS’ for 2020.

    Having gotten none, and the Biden campaign’s election direction running so far, they has a sad.

    Do not give them one phucking inch. You smell the bullshyt, call it out and have friends call it out. It ain’t paranoia coming from the muthaphuckas of BUT HER EMAILS who have never apologized.

    Next, keep on the lookout of the polls of the Seniors. I honestly don’t think those numbers are going to change. Why?

    Look at Florida. Look at the new cases for COVID-19 in Florida. They say that it skews younger. Of course it does – THE SENIORS ARE ALL INSIDE. Outside of the crazies that pop up on Twitter, the vast majority of our Seniors are inside, and can’t come out and can’t be visited by family. And, no matter what the Fox News bubble tries to tell them, THEY KNOW WHY THEY CAN’T COME OUTSIDE WITHOUT RISKING THEIR LIVES.

     

    We have to have Joe Biden’s back. Joe – don’t leave that phucking basement. Nobody wants you out of that basement. We for damn sure don’t want you at any ‘ regular’ campaign-style events. Because, mark my words….if just ONE PERSON from a Biden event is found to have caught COVID-19, that will be BOTH SIDES by the MSM to the equivalent of the malicious incompetent in the White House who has killed over 120,000 Americans.

    Trust me on that. They are so phucking desperate to BOTH SIDES it….

    Don’t fall for it, Team Biden.

    I have to admit that I am still happy when I see that Team Dolt45 got punked by socially savvy teenagers.

    Will it get ugly?

    Racist, probably BIRTH OF A NATION RACIST?

    ABSOLUTELY.

    SO, buckle up and get ready for it.

  112. 112.

    MisterForkbeard

    June 22, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    @rikyrah: What staff changes are we walking about here?

  113. 113.

    leeleeFL

    June 22, 2020 at 8:33 pm

    @rikyrah: I know you are so right, rikyrah!  FTFNYT will do all they can possibly do to keep the numbers close.  We cannot let them get away with it this time.  Give them no pennies and certainly no quarter.  The Salzburg (?) Clan has,f some reason, sold their collective soul to the BS god of both-sider-ism, and our Country is teetering on the edge of destruction.  They have f-ckd us over enough for my lifetime.

  114. 114.

    sgrAstar

    June 22, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    @Benw:  the Call of Cthulhu. Going down into the basement and opening That Door never, never ends well. It just doesn’t. Aieeeeee!!!!

    🌑

  115. 115.

    Galahad Threepwood

    June 22, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    Abbott could have done this in April or May.  He could have supported the mayors who were recommending masks instead of undercutting them 2 fucking weeks ago.  He could have been something other than a useless sack of shit who was thirsty for Trump’s favor.  But that’s too much to ask of a fucking Republican.  And the goddamned gall of now acting concerned about the spread of COVID in the state.  Too fucking late, asshole.  Too fucking late.

     

    –Another Texan

  116. 116.

    Kay

    June 22, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @topclimber:

    There isn’t a Republican in this country who objects to the signs in rest rooms directing food service employees to wash their hands. It’s the same idea. It is absolutely within the policing power of a state governor to order it. If they can order seat belts they can order masks.

    It’s just pure stupidity and cussedness. A minor inconvenience is too much for these whiners to handle.

    Order it and get it over with. Just do the job.  If they had done it 3 months ago people would be wearing them without even thinking about it by now. I have them in my car, my work bag and my purse. It’s not a big deal. It takes 3 seconds to put it on.

  117. 117.

    rikyrah

    June 22, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

     

    News from @nytopinion: @marymsuh is returning to fill in as acting Op-Ed Editor, @cgreensit of The Intercept is the new managing editor and associate Editorial Page editor and @talmonsmith is promoted to staff editor. Read on in a note from @katiekings: https://t.co/oTgdVKqapA— NYTimes Communications (@NYTimesPR) June 22, 2020

  118. 118.

    rikyrah

    June 22, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    In m-o-d-e-r-a-t-i-o-n, please help

  119. 119.

    cmorenc

    June 22, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    One difference between two particular politicians cast by tragic misfortune into wheelchairs is:

    • after a would-be assasin’s bullet deprived him of the ability to stand or walk, George Wallace actually transformed himself from a vile rabble-rousing racist into a vastly better person who shed his racism and opened his heart to appeal to the better in other people.
    • Greg Abbott is still a vile piece of shit deliberately appealing to the worst in people.  I should feel empathy for whatever tragic circumstances put him in a wheelchair, but he has the shriveled heart of the Grinch taking joy away from others who aren’t as mean-spirited as he is.

    BTW: I actually got to briefly meet the Gov’nr Wallace in 1975 (then wheelchair-bound).  To the extent you can read people from a brief 5-minute meeting, he radiated the empathy of a changed man who realized he had been so-long so-wrong and was spending his remaining time trying to be in tune with his better angels, even while aware he could never be able to completely take back all those years he was a force for wrong, not right.

  120. 120.

    rikyrah

    June 22, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    She won’t support providing a stimulus check for people to stay home in the middle of a PANDEMIC…
    But, supports this bullshyt?
    TRAVELING IN THE MIDDLE OF A PHUCKING PANDEMIC 😠

    This heifer has TO GO😠

    https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1275229073871196160

  121. 121.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 22, 2020 at 11:22 pm

    @rikyrah:  Gods, not the same old dumb “tax breaks” nonsense from a Republican. Not to mention one that’s will deliberately aggravate the pandemic.

  122. 122.

    Ian R

    June 23, 2020 at 1:02 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Are those students coming back, even if they can get visas? No one in their right mind would come to the US right now, except maybe from Brazil.

  123. 123.

    central texas

    June 23, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    @Keith G: 
    And you can damn well bet that those who made the decision are as far from the public and masked as they can get. Sorry gutless shits!

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