I am so sick and tired of hearing people trying to turn these people into boogeymen:
This country doesn’t have an antifa problem, it has a fascist problem. Deal with the fascists and antifa members will go back to making artisanal ice cubes, roller derby, pta meetings, and trading sourdough cultures
— John Cole (@Johngcole) June 19, 2020
The antifa body count is STILL ZERO.
dm
I am Spartacus.
Benw
I am antifa!
Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.)
I know a few people who are convinced that these Antifa people are out slaughtering conservatives by the thousands. There’s no way to reach people who believe this shit. All we can do is beat down their political movement so hard that it never walks again. And right now, that means somehow destroying the Republican Party. I don’t know how we’re going to do that, but that’s the task at hand.
Emma from FL
@Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.): Agreed. One cannot negotiate or compromise with the delusional.
Hunter Gathers
I still don’t know what is going on in Seattle and I still don’t care.
HumboldtBlue
Juneteenth. Public Enemy.
danielx
You tell them we already had the debate over this whole antifa thing during the period 1941 to 1945 and they look at you like like you’re speaking an unknown language. Which, to them, I suppose you are.
JCJ
I wonder if President Eisenhower was anti-fascist?
Wyatt Salamanca
Mark Bray https://history.rutgers.edu/people/faculty/details/1143-bray-mark is the author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/antifa/
When anyone has the time to spare he provides a thorough and insightful overview of Antifa in these videos:
Here’s a 25-minute interview he did on Canadian television
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VkXoKHuUJA
1 hour talk he gave at Politics and Prose bookstore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HivGdRBG0XU
90-minute talk at University Book Store in Seattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQc_ZjXrocM
HumboldtBlue
We’re still living.
The pot smells good.
prostratedragon
Good article on the history of Juneteenth, by Prof. Gregory Downs: “The Hidden History Of Juneteenth”
Eric NNY
I’m just gonna say F$!* YES!
AnotherBruce
@Hunter Gathers: Apparently you did.
Kent
@JCJ: Yeah. Someone needs to tell Trump that Eisenhower, McAurthur, Patton, and Nimitz were the original ANTIFA. Along with all the soldier and sailors that they commanded.
Fair Economist
That’s a classic tweet, Mr. Cole.
Omnes Omnibus
@HumboldtBlue: State of the Union.
NotMax
As an aside, prompted to mention that, among other failings, the Nazis had a thing about ice.
;)
rikyrah
Tell the truth, Cole 👏👏
Sebastian
@Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.):
those are the people who believe a Hillary ran a child trafficking ring out of a pizza joint basement and that the US military was about to occupy Texas.
AJ
How I do love a good Cole rant
HumboldtBlue
@Omnes Omnibus:
That’s what bounced me back to that track.
Now I’m in Arizona.
AnotherBruce
@Kent: Na ga happen.
Sloane Ranger
@Sebastian: I can trump that (sorry). I recently read an article, in Raw Story I think, about some guy who attended Trump rallies and interviewed attendees.
Apart from the usual Trump is God’s instrument and his tweets are a secret code only true believers can understand, one person he spoke to blurted out that the Clintons ate children. This was the purpose of their Foundation, to go to trouble spots and smuggle out kids for Bill and Hillary’s culinary pleasure. Her friends nodded seriously, in agreement. He didn’t think they were having him on.
debbie
RWNJs like Glenn Beck who wave their pocket Constitutions furiously and secretly wish they could hump the American flag like their president are infuriated that they are losing “their” (ie, fascist) America.
Beck has predicted that “his” America and “his” and similar radio programs will end if Biden is elected. One can only fervently hope. //
Aurona
@Hunter Gathers: I’m here and taking notes. So far, the gardens of vegetables are winning with carrots and potatoes taking the biggest share at #CHOP. Truly, I don’t know how much longer we can go on without more representation from green beans. But I digress.
Embir
Thank you John. I keep waiting for some Journo to start labeling MAGAs Pro-Fa. Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Churchill, the Lincoln Brigade – all card carrying members of the anti-fascist movement. Hitler, Mousolini, Saddam, and Joe McCarthy – charter members of Pro-Fa. That list makes it pretty clear what the poles of this conflict are.
I’m just saddened that we don’t see more pushback on this inane, inaccurate, and insecure scapegoating of people standing up for democracy. I may not agree with some of their tactics, but we learned the hardest way and a long time ago that fascists never go quietly.
lofgren
A guy on Facebook tried to convince me that Antifa were violent terrorists. When challenged he provided video of protesters, who may or may not have been antifa (they weren’t wearing the “black bloc” outfit and most didn’t even have their faces covered), knocking over trash cans and spray painting slogans on the sidewalk. In more than 45 minutes of supposedly shocking antifa violence caught on tape, there was minor property damage and one fist fight between two guys, during which neither was injured badly and both walked away. Honestly, I don’t think the person I was talking to even watched the videos. He just saw the titles, referring to violent antifa protesters, and assumed there would be rampant slaughter in the streets.
tarragon
Damn, I do all those things except violently oppose fascists. Apparently I’m slacking