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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Schadenfreude Open Thread: Turmoil in the Trump Campaign

Schadenfreude Open Thread: Turmoil in the Trump Campaign

by Anne Laurie|  June 8, 202011:58 pm| 62 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Election 2020, Grifters Gonna Grift, Repubs in Disarray!, Trump Crime Cartel, Schadenfreude

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have a seat brad I am hearing my people are calling you brad ferrariscale why is that is that an inside joke I don’t get it brad https://t.co/aZ5SDhhXGJ

— kilgore trout, potato thief (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 4, 2020

Thanks to commentor Kay for this refulgent little report on the GOP affray from Gabriel Sherman at Vanity Fair:

In Donald Trump’s West Wing, being a member of the Trump family has historically been the ultimate job security. But that truism is being stress-tested after a run of polls consistently show Trump losing to Joe Biden at this stage of the race—a CNN poll this morning has him down 14 points. According to a source close to the White House, Trump has mulled taking oversight of the campaign away from his son-in-law Jared Kushner. “Trump is malignantly crazy about the bad poll numbers,” a former West Wing official said. “He’s going to broom Kushner and [Brad] Parscale—the numbers are not getting better,” a Republican close to the campaign said.

Long before the reelection campaign went sideways, Trump frequently blew up at Kushner. For instance, former West Wing officials recall how Trump hated when Kushner received too much positive press (In January, Trump was rankled when Kushner’s portrait graced the cover of Time). “Any time Jared is in the papers, Trump complains, ‘We have to get Jared back to New York!’” said a Republican who heard Trump make the comment. In the end, the source cautioned that Trump won’t push Kushner out. “This is typical with him and Jared,” the source said.

(The White House did not respond to requests for comment. Kushner declined to comment.)…

Over the weekend, Trump called around to New York friends and outside advisers in hopes they would validate Trump’s belief that the polls are wrong. “He’s asking people to agree with him that the polls are biased. But no one is telling him what he wants to hear,” said a Republican briefed on the calls. Republicans know how bad things are, but the party still believes sticking with Trump is the best bet for holding the Senate. Last week, Mitch McConnell told Republican senators that they couldn’t abandon Trump, according to a source. McConnell reminded Republicans that former New Hampshire senator Kelly Ayotte lost her 2016 reelection bid after breaking with Trump over the Access Hollywood video.

(Through a spokesperson, McConnell denied making the comment.)

My guess is that if #MoscowMitch is telling his fellows that they can’t abandon Trump, then #MoscowMitch has already prepared a draft of his eulogy for Trump’s upcoming defenestration. Because I’m a cynic, like that.

Speaking of defenestrations, Young Prince Jared just set up his own. Knowingly, or not?

Kushner: The law enforcement community heard the cries from the community, saw the injustices in the system that needed to be fixed and they responded by coming together to fix it pic.twitter.com/i7Dee03MYu

— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) June 8, 2020

Earlier report from Mr. Sherman:

In private, Trump says Democratic governors are letting riots continue because it will hurt Trump’s re-election. My latest:https://t.co/ftt9ElIA6O

— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) June 2, 2020

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  1. 1.

    BGinCHI

    June 9, 2020 at 12:06 am

    We ask that you not judge us by the Bradness of our names, but by the content of our character.

  2. 2.

    patrick II

    June 9, 2020 at 12:12 am

    Poor Donald

    Trump once again feels victimized.

    Meanwhile, from the Washington Post via LGM

    Invoking an economic “emergency” stemming from the coronavirus pandemic, the administration has made it harder for people to challenge inaccuracies on credit reports, eased required breaks for commercial truckers and told factories and power plants that, while they should obey pollution limits, they do not have to monitor or report their emissions routinely — among other things.

    Thinking he’s the victim while he’s using the coronavirus to victimize millions of people.

  3. 3.

    Aleta

    June 9, 2020 at 12:24 am

    What is wrong with them. Police wearing armor firing flash bangs at unarmed protesters, hitting a 21-year-old in the chest and stunning a photographer.
    https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1270184140898525185

  4. 4.

    Raoul

    June 9, 2020 at 12:26 am

    Just saw a tidbit the evening that several Republican Colorado state senators are supporting a police reform bill. Allegedly not in that “I’ll support this if you water it down to nothing” way.

    One does wonder if the one-two of Trump & Gardner as lead anchor and leaky boat is freaking otherwise ‘safe’ GOPers. CO could swing quite a bit more blue than purple in the not too distant future.

    (Yes, the western slope and the plains will bleed red forever. But the state is growing and urbanizing rapidly)

  5. 5.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2020 at 12:28 am

    Jared Kushner is a silver spoon, slumlord millionaire with rat-infested properties who couldn't even fill out his security forms properly, how is he being put in charge of racism lmaoooo— BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan) June 8, 2020

  6. 6.

    cain

    June 9, 2020 at 12:28 am

    @Raoul:

    oh yeah, I’m following an abolitionist and it looks like it is on its way of passing and it contains a lot of the 8cantwait.org stuff. It’s a pretty strong bill.

  7. 7.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2020 at 12:29 am

    Meghan McCain asks Kamala Harris whether she is “defunding the police,” then proceeds to get schooled by her and Sunny Houston 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 #BlackLivesMatter #TheView pic.twitter.com/DtwyFllUwC— Madam Auntie Kamala Harris for VP! (@flywithkamala) June 8, 2020

  8. 8.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2020 at 12:30 am

    Via jamieleehurtt #tiktokThe video shows young Azariah in tears, saying, “I could die from the color of my skin,” as her father, Joseph, squats on the floor beside her and hugs her. Jamie told Storyful, “My fiancé and I decided it was time to speak about how she may get treated pic.twitter.com/KrTRbneFs8— DaDNotNoun (@DadIsntANoun) June 3, 2020

  9. 9.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2020 at 12:31 am

    To show solidarity with black lives, Senate and House dems accepted African Kente cloth to wear as they announced a huge new police reform bill designed to combat systemic racism In the comments ,Bernie leftists team with writers for the federalist, to mock this https://t.co/3hfz8NITLw— T. Fisher King (@T_FisherKing) June 8, 2020

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2020 at 12:32 am

    Funny how the populist left wants to make racism about money.They see BLM and want to replace it with "DEFUND the police". Note how they remove "black lives" and replace them with fiscal policy!When all you have is a hammer and sickle, everything looks like class warfare… https://t.co/7234q0sG9O— Truth Sandwich🥪🇺🇸❄️🍩🇭🥀⚖️ (@master_deli) June 8, 2020

  11. 11.

    Gretchen

    June 9, 2020 at 12:34 am

    I saw a Trump ad on MSNBC in Kansas City tonight.  How many of their viewers are considering Trump?

  12. 12.

    patrick II

    June 9, 2020 at 12:41 am

    @Gretchen:

    Two drunk guys watching TV in a bar.

  13. 13.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 9, 2020 at 12:42 am

    Blech, sometimes I feel dirty just reading about these people.

  14. 14.

    West of the Rockies

    June 9, 2020 at 12:47 am

    @Gretchen:

    It was a shitty commercial, too, with a tone deaf, target-missing message.

  15. 15.

    Amir Khalid

    June 9, 2020 at 12:48 am

    Donald Trump needs to get rid of the person actually at fault for his dreadful polling numbers: Donald Trump.

  16. 16.

    West of the Rockies

    June 9, 2020 at 12:49 am

    It makes me smirk reading how Trump is miserable and berating everyone around him.  Gastric distress and high blood pressure, on the house!

  17. 17.

    Craigie

    June 9, 2020 at 12:51 am

    “afraid to say anything that will make him look weak”

    My advice is to say nothing then. Where’s my Ferrari?

  18. 18.

    hitchhiker

    June 9, 2020 at 12:54 am

    Most delicious news re trump campaign is that it just spent $400,000 to run trump 2020 ads on WASHINGTON DC local cable.

    Why?

    Why would they blow that change in a place where almost everybody loathes him?

    Simple. Because he’ll see those ads, and maybe they’ll balance out (in his small, bitter mind) the Lincoln Project ads he’s also seeing on those channels.

    The campaign is using resources to reassure the candidate.

  19. 19.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 9, 2020 at 12:57 am

    pic.twitter.com/kG0wESFYdS

    — Ice Cube (@icecube) June 9, 2020

  20. 20.

    Redshift

    June 9, 2020 at 1:04 am

    @rikyrah:

    To show solidarity with black lives, Senate and House dems accepted African Kente cloth to wear as they announced a huge new police reform bill designed to combat systemic racism In the comments ,Bernie leftists team with writers for the federalist, to mock this 

    Yeah, I briefly wandered into a Twitter rabbit-hole (and wisely backed out without responding) where a very white dude was carping about the Dems “just having a photo op” but the real answer is Justin Amash’s bill to end qualified immunity.

  21. 21.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 9, 2020 at 1:08 am

    In private, Trump says Democratic governors are letting riots continue because it will hurt Trump’s re-election.

    EVERYTHING is about Donald. EVERYTHING.

  22. 22.

    cain

    June 9, 2020 at 1:08 am

    @Redshift:

    There was some blue check black twitter folks carping about it as well. The CDC asked them to do it. I did feel lit was a little more pageantry than was strictly necessary – I would have preferred a ringing speech and raised fist at the end than taking the knee. Show me some fire, show me resolution in your eyes, and raise your fist because we aren’t taking this crap anymore.

  23. 23.

    Captain C

    June 9, 2020 at 1:09 am

     OK, how do I 'imbed' a tweet as a non-admin type?

  24. 24.

    cain

    June 9, 2020 at 1:11 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Yep – but now that we know plot, we should be doing everything to manipulate him. The Lincoln Project has figured that out and knows how to press his buttons. I think Biden has as well – because his tweets seem to be geared to insult the president at every turn.

    But the rest? Meh. Sure, support your candidate, but start running ads for an audience of one on Fox News – especially during Laura Ingraham and others. Those assholes need money so we might as well give it to them in the form of paying for absolutely fucking with Trump.

  25. 25.

    cain

    June 9, 2020 at 1:12 am

    @Major Major Major Major:

    IceCube has been phenomenal in all this. The man makes me laugh, whil being spot on about stuff. My kind of GenXer. :D

  26. 26.

    joel hanes

    June 9, 2020 at 1:13 am

    @Redshift:

    Ending qualified immunity would be huge.

    It’s a big reason that  some police organizations have been able to defy oversight or control by local elected officials for extended periods.

  27. 27.

    robmassing

    June 9, 2020 at 1:21 am

    @rikyrah: Meghan: “Again, I don’t know anything about this, but I saw a viral video.” How is she employed???

  28. 28.

    LeftCoastYankee

    June 9, 2020 at 1:22 am

    1. In-Charge Idiot doesn’t know how anything works.
    2. Lackey Stupids can’t wait to share the dramas of things not working.
    3. Press transcribes.
    4. The Stupid spreads.
    5. Still nothing works.

    I me mean unless we can bet on the Stupids eating each other’s brains or something (I might pay attention to that), anything beyond “are they making today worse”, is TMI at this point.

  29. 29.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 9, 2020 at 1:22 am

    @cain: Ice T has been fantastic, too. I’ve always liked him as Finn on Law & Order SVU.  Talented actor as well as a talented hip hop artist.

    And then there was that EPIC ad for Geico, I think it was.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8ZwDr_WxmU

  30. 30.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 9, 2020 at 1:24 am

    @LeftCoastYankee: Lackey Stupids can’t wait to share the dramas of things not working.

     

    They are looking forward to six to seven figure advances on their tell-all books.

  31. 31.

    Martin

    June 9, 2020 at 1:25 am

    It’s even better. Trump has hired McLaughlin to help with polling. May we be so blessed to have him replace Parscale. McLaughlin is the idiot that convinced Eric Cantor he was winning by double digits when he was losing by double digits. McLaughlin is basically un-hireable within the GOP because he produces polls whose sole purpose is to appease the candidate and keep him employed. Basically, he lies to the candidate as a standard practice. Of course Trump loves this.

    If we’re lucky he’ll be convinced to dump all of his ad spending in California. The downside to this, of course, is that Trump will never accept that he lost, especially if his pollsters are lying to him. He’ll demand that the election be invalidated, and there’s a real risk in the election that people may not be considering.

    If we are moving to a semi-national vote by mail, with primarily red states forcing people into polling places, what happens at the end of election night when only red states have results and blue states are days or weeks away from having enough of count to project a winner? Consider how quickly the Brooks Brothers riot formed in Florida. Imagine that on a national scale, with blue state counts getting tied up by lawyers and goon tactics, further delaying results.

    On election night Trump declares victory and then over the following week or two that changes. How will that be received by Trump and by his voters?

  32. 32.

    frosty

    June 9, 2020 at 1:26 am

    @Raoul:

    (Yes, the western slope and the plains will bleed red forever. But the state is growing and urbanizing rapidly)

    Just like the “T” in PA where I live. Anything outside of Philly, Pittsburgh, (and State College in the middle) is going to vote R. Our goal in my county is to get the Dems above 35%. Then we take PA.

    Without Pittsburgh we’d be a red state.

    ETA: There really aren’t blue and red states. There’s urban and rural areas and if your state has more of the former then it votes blue for statewide elections. Congress and the state lege, maybe not so much.

  33. 33.

    Martin

    June 9, 2020 at 1:29 am

    @Aleta: What is wrong with them.

    They’re losing their authority. They can feel it.

  34. 34.

    Redshift

    June 9, 2020 at 1:30 am

    @joel hanes:

    Ending qualified immunity would be huge. 

    Yes, and the Dem bill introduced today would end it. Which is it was so asinine to snipe at the photo op and pretend the bill that was the entire reason for it didn’t exist.

    (And it’s a bill that will pass at least one house of Congress and can be the template for next year, unlike Justin “Party of One” Amash’s.)

  35. 35.

    frosty

    June 9, 2020 at 1:30 am

    @rikyrah: fuckem

    ETA: I presume you know who I mean.

  36. 36.

    joel hanes

    June 9, 2020 at 1:32 am

    @Redshift:

    Ah.   Thanks for the context.

  37. 37.

    Leto

    June 9, 2020 at 1:33 am

    @Gretchen: I saw two Trumpov ads run during Maddow (outside Philly) and just lol’d. Who’s the audience for this bullshit? I guess if you’re just going to piss away money, and if Brad is taking his cut…

  38. 38.

    cain

    June 9, 2020 at 1:36 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Yep, Ice T as well. Both are great follows – great actors and artists.

  39. 39.

    Dan B

    June 9, 2020 at 1:37 am

    @Aleta: The most serious attacks have been at the East Precinct on Capitol Hill on Seattle.  It’s a few short blocks from where I livrd for almost 40 years.  It was a mixed race neighborhood that was red-lined.  It’s gentrified fast.  We moved partly because there were many politically clueless people moving in.

    Now we live in a majority minority area.  There was a demonstration and march with several thousand people – majority minority – at Othello Park, an 8 block walk from us.  It was peaceful with very little police presence.  The difference was stark.  There’s some weird dynamic at play.

    The mayor, a corporate lesbian, is okay but the corporate blinders seem to prevent her from recognizing that the police are in revolt against her and she’s losing community support.

  40. 40.

    Captain C

    June 9, 2020 at 1:38 am

    @rikyrah: According to a Twitter thread (linked here as I can’t seem to do the kind of imbedding that non-admins can do) by Selena Adera:

    Please don’t get fooled by Cosplay Performative Outrage: July 2019, Nancy Pelosi & Black Caucus members travelled to Ghana to observe the 400th of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. They were given Kente in honor of their visit & the developing solidarity between our countries.

  41. 41.

    Elizabelle

    June 9, 2020 at 1:41 am

    Refulgent.  Why I read this blog.

  42. 42.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 9, 2020 at 1:53 am

    @Major Major Major Major:

    LOL Ice Cube

  43. 43.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 9, 2020 at 1:56 am

    @Redshift:

    @rikyrah:

    There’s definitely a contingent on the left that decries “identity politics”. r/stupidpol on Reddit is particularly infamous for this and is just a left-wing r/kotakuinaction

  44. 44.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 9, 2020 at 1:58 am

    @Dan B:

    The most serious attacks have been at the East Precinct on Capitol Hill on Seattle.  It’s a few short blocks from where I livrd for almost 40 years.  It was a mixed race neighborhood that was red-lined.  It’s gentrified fast.  We moved partly because there were many politically clueless people moving in.

    That’s sad. I suspect “politically clueless” could describe a lot of people in this country unfortunately

  45. 45.

    Ian R

    June 9, 2020 at 2:36 am

    If Trump wants to be reassured that he’ll win despite the polls, he should try calling Democrats, rather than Republicans. Had to talk like half my d&d group off the metaphorical ledge tonight, as they’re all convinced that he’ll win despite polling far behind in every swing state he needs.

  46. 46.

    Amir Khalid

    June 9, 2020 at 2:53 am

    @Ian R:

    Some people are not happy unless the sky is falling.

  47. 47.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    June 9, 2020 at 3:27 am

    Over the weekend, Trump called around to New York friends

    He has no friends.

  48. 48.

    Ivan X

    June 9, 2020 at 3:30 am

    @Amir Khalid:  I don’t think it’s that. I think it’s trying to psychologically protect oneself from the catastrophic horror of the wrong result, which most of us were completely blindsided by in 2016. I see the same thing in some sports fans. They’d rather prepare for doom to protect themselves against having their hopes dashed.

  49. 49.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2020 at 3:44 am

    @Dan B:  Seattle’s Mayor Durkan has certainly lost a lot of support of the city council. She has sorely misjudged her rose here.
    And I have to say that I was shocked by that video of the Seattle cops shooting that young woman with whatever that was, a flash-bang? because I thought the unprovoked violence by cops was over by now, exhausted by public outrage at the earlier examples of outrageous behavior of cops. I guess that’s like being shocked by anything Trump does by now, except he has still managed to shock me and others.

  50. 50.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2020 at 3:50 am

    Has Yutsano checked in this evening?

  51. 51.

    oclib

    June 9, 2020 at 4:15 am

    @opiejeanne:

    yes….#192 on the previous thread

  52. 52.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2020 at 4:17 am

    @oclib: Thank you.

  53. 53.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    June 9, 2020 at 4:56 am

    @opiejeanne: I’m old enough to remember the Seattle cop-riot during the WTO demonstrations.

     

    There’s even a movie about it (link)

  54. 54.

    Shalimar

    June 9, 2020 at 5:34 am

    The contrast in protective equipment between police and medical personnel is stunning, and it’s making police’s traditional  “dangerous job protecting you” defense look hollow.  Cops have all the riot gear their departments can buy, and they still get violent over thrown water bottles.  Meanwhile, doctors and nurses keep doing their jobs with inadequate PPE while their co-workers are actually dying.

  55. 55.

    Geminid

    June 9, 2020 at 6:04 am

    1. I checked out poll analyst Rachel Bitecoffer’s Twitter feed yesterday. Good stuff. Two points stood out: 1) under 30 turnout was way up 2018 over 2014. Trend continues in 2020 primaries. 2) the registered but not voting cohort is huge. In Texas, 2 million of 7.5 million registered woman voters did not vote. Her prescription: put effort into turning these voters out, not effort into converting Republican voters. Personally I like the idea of flipping Republicans, but I agree that no special effort is an efficient use of messaging  and resources. The ones who will flip are gonna flip, and there aren’t that many.                    I think candidates like Barbara Bollier KS and Steve Bollier will need Republican votes to win but they can work that out in their state campaigns.                                         Bitecofer is really deep into Texas congressional red-to-blue opportunities. Counts at least six in mainly suburban districts.
  56. 56.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2020 at 6:05 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: I remember how surprised we were by that riot because it seemed so out of character for Seattle. We didn’t live here yet but had spent a lot of time here. But then there was the incident with the jumper on the bridge over Lake Union and we realized that maybe we’d badly misjudged Seattle.

    I read recently that the WTO protests, the violent parts, really were outside agitators (and cops? thanks for the link), but motorists yelling at a suicidal person to just jump so the traffic could move, those were not outside agitators.

  57. 57.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2020 at 6:22 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: I forgot to mention that just about the moment we moved here, a cop shot and killed a Native American woodcarver named John Williams on a street corner, supposedly for brandishing a knife at him. The knife was a pocket knife and the blade was closed. It was ruled unjustified killing. The cop was not prosecuted but resigned. The Williams family got a settlement of $1.5 million and a totem pole at City Center.

    This was a stunning “welcome to the real PNW” moment.

  58. 58.

    Booger

    June 9, 2020 at 6:26 am

    @cain: I think–I hope–you mean the CBC.

  59. 59.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 9, 2020 at 7:55 am

    @Ivan X: I see the same thing in some sports fans. They’d rather prepare for doom to protect themselves against having their hopes dashed.

    The best thing about consistent, continual pessimism is that you are never disappointed: You feel justified when you’re proven right, and absolutely overjoyed when you’re proven wrong.

    Cue Ambrose Bierce:

    A pessimist applied to God for relief.

    “Ah, you wish me to restore your hope and cheerfulness,” said God.

    “No,” replied the petitioner, “I wish you to create something that would justify them.”

    “The world is all created,” said God, “but you have overlooked something—the mortality of the optimist.”

  60. 60.

    Ken

    June 9, 2020 at 8:13 am

    He’s going to broom Kushner and [Brad] Parscale

    I’m not sure what that means but I hope it’s painful and humiliating.

  61. 61.

    Ken

    June 9, 2020 at 8:15 am

    Trump said Democratic governors are letting riots continue

    I had trouble with this until I realized that to him, “protests against me” = “riots”.

  62. 62.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    June 9, 2020 at 8:39 am

    @rikyrah:

    @Redshift: ‘

    Juicers might like to know that yesterday was an official vigil for George Floyd as part of the Rev. Dr. Barber’s virtual Poor People’s Campaign Virtual March.  Those of us who signed up for the Virtual March were silent for the time Chauvin had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck at 5:00 pm.  I don’t know the time the Democrats knelt, but there were events all day.  For more on the vigil, here’s a link from its (warning) Facebook Page.  Here’s a link to the very moving litany the Rev. Dr. Barber composed.  For those of us taking care of individuals who are extremely vulnerable to COVID-19, it gave a feeling of participation and sorrow.  There are more events planned, so look them up if you are interested.  Sorry to be so late to this thread.

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