I've seen enough. Rep. Steve King (R) has been defeated in #IA04.
— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) June 3, 2020
This moves a stretch plausible Dem pickup off the table as generic Republican will steam roll above average Dem, but this is good news.
Open thread
donnah
Good riddance, you KKK stooge. Racists like you are the reason we have protests.
Adam L Silverman
I can’t believe you bigfooted my bigfooting of AL’s post on the RNC in Charlotte!
Yutsano
So…how does your first bigfoot feel Mayhew?
@Adam L Silverman: Heh. I was just about to pop down and giggle about that in your thread. WHERE THE FUCK IS COLE TO COMPLETE THE CYCLE???
Adam L Silverman
@Yutsano: He needs to sleep with one eye open…
Jeffro
Proper messaging from the DNC might help here: “We rejoice that the Republican party, for once, has rejected an outright white supremacist. HowEVer…here are all of the things that King and Feenstra agree on” (laundry list of same policy positions scrolls through). So maybe not all that different, just sneakier on Feenstra’s part. Vote Dem this November!”
Bonus messaging – snooze media, ask the question: “Senator Ernst, how do you feel about white supremacist Steve King losing his primary bid tonight?”
Ken
Are you sure about the steamrolling? Especially since[*] the winner Feenstra campaigned on being a loyal and effective supporter of Trump.
[*] As reported in the comments of the thread that was bigfooted by the thread that was bigfooted by the thread you just bigfooted – if I counted correctly.
David Anderson
I have done this before… A big foot feels like a bag of sand
frosty
@Adam L Silverman: And I can’t believe we spend entire afternoons with one lonely post to comment on and then times like this they come through like rush hour traffic.
CaseyL
Who says Bigfoot doesn’t exist? We have three of them right here!
Good riddance to King. Maybe the Dems can hang Feenstra’s promise of love and support for OrangeFart around his neck. (How popular is Fart in Iowa?)
Adam L Silverman
@frosty: I’m still not back to full stamina or I’d have had my post up earlier. I was able to go for the first walk with the dogs in several days just before I did the post. Given how horrible I felt most of last week and through the weekend, I’m taking it as a good sign and hope to be back to a couple of posts a week in short order.
Ken
BTW, what is the over/under on whether King claims widespread vote fraud and contests the results?
Adam L Silverman
@CaseyL: The Congressional delegation is trending Democratic. I think three of the four House seats are held by Democrats. King was the only Republican – largely because of the makeup of the district. While both senators are Republican, Senator Ernst who is up for reelection is not having as easy a campaign as she did when she was first elected six years ago.
Aleta
frosty
@Adam L Silverman: Aw hell, didn’t mean to lay a guilt trip on you. Glad you’re feeling better and it was familiar crud and not CV-19.
Mary G
@Adam L Silverman: Hope you can chime in on the issue of all the little green men popping up in DC
ETA: Like these guys:
Mary G
Jackie
@Aleta: ????????????????
Ken
Oh, in case Anderson was waiting for someone to do this:
Then stick a fork in him!
Miss Bianca
@Ken:
“The persons responsible for sacking the persons who were to have been sacked, have just been sacked.”
Adam L Silverman
@frosty: As I indicated last night it is just my every six months sinus infection. I did have a COVID-19 test a few days before my doctor decided he needed to have me in to do a proper diagnosis of the suspected sinus infection and that came back negative. The county had started doing public testing, so I figured it made sense to get tested.
Adam L Silverman
@Mary G:
They’re Border Patrol.Based on visible insignia and abbreviations on the shirt sleeves, they’re Bureau of Prison tactical response guys. DC has very specific firearm carry laws and private security contractors would not be able to open carry even handguns in DC. AR pattern rifles with extended magazines will get your arrested by the DC police.
Aleta
@Ken: After dredging in a batter of tar and feathers
debbie
May this be just the first of many. ?
Mary G
ema
@Adam L Silverman:
Glad you are feeling better.
Why the sneakers, branded t-shirts, and no name tags? Aren’t they supposed to be in uniform?
Marmot
What? Can you clarify this?
kindness
It’ll be ‘interesting’ to see who hires King as a lobbyist come January.
HumboldtBlue
Bigfooting has never felt so good.
And I’m not far from where good Bigfooting became really good.
Adam L Silverman
@Mary G: I clearly missed something about Plame.
BBA
As a bonus, there’s a very good chance that Wilmer is mathematically eliminated tonight. (Theoretically it had been possible that if every single state had voted unanimously he could have had a miraculous comeback victory… oh, the tears of the DSA kids will be so sweet.)
Adam L Silverman
@ema: That is their standard tactical kit minus the green button down shirts that say “POLICE” in yellow across the back. Given the weather, they’re probably wearing an alternate under armor polo that has some crest or insignia you can’t see because of the plate carriers. Those are the normal duty (tactical) pants they were. And my guess is they get a choice of footwear provided they are within the regs.
That said, those folks would happily break anyone’s skulls the President told them too.
ETA: Based on what insignia are visible, they’re Federal Bureau of Prisons tactical response guys.
Sebastian
Something’s going on with Evangelicals. Check this out, Joel Osteen at BLM protest.
Kent
@Mary G: I guess I’m out of touch. What is wrong with Valerie Plame? Is she some sort of white supremacist? Not that I don’t cheer the more progressive Hispanic and LOCAL candidate winning. Just curious.
Kent
Rats and sinking ships.
That’s what is going on.
Mary G
@Adam L Silverman:
Adam L Silverman
@Marmot: The guy that won is a Republican state legislator from King’s district. He ran as more Trumpy than King. So unless the district makes a huge swing for some reason, having the state legislator on the ballot being opposed by the Democratic challenger rather than King makes it more likely that the Republicans will hold the seat.
Adam L Silverman
@Sebastian: That’s the 6th seal of the apocalypse!
Kent
@Mary G: Bush had foreknowledge of 9-11. Doesn’t surprise me that the Israeli’s might have too.
But yeah. Any tweet that contains the phrase “American Jews…” is probably not one that should ever be sent.
Mary G
@Kent: From Wikipedia:
rikyrah
Da phuq ????
2020 is strange
https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/1268027897975115777
Adam L Silverman
@Mary G: Okay, now I’m tracking. Or at least on Rosenberg’s take.
ema
@Adam L Silverman:
Thank you.
rikyrah
Mary G
@Adam L Silverman: If you’re still here, can you release the Wikipedia entry I posted? Too many links. She did delete the tweet and issued a very decent apology.
I can’t find the piece from a while back in a woman’s magazine profile where I decided she had a few screws loose, but the Wiki explanation is pretty much what my impression was.
Adam L Silverman
@Mary G: I know Phil. My take on his remarks is he inartfully tried to say that Americans, who are Jewish, like Bill Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz, the Ledeens, the Wurmsers, the Kagans, and several others who we’d call neo-Cons, and who have either done work for the Israelis or are extreme supporters of Israel had been actively pushing for the invasion of Iraq. And Giraldi is not wrong. The idea for the invasion – justification and assessment of how it would work out and what would happen as a result of it – originated in work that several of the individuals above were involved in, through Kristol’s Project for a New American Century which first promoted the idea in the US, were doing for Bibi Netanyahu and the Likud Party in the late 1990s. That has been extensively documented. I have a copy of the assessment they prepared for Bibi and the Likud in 1998.
Adam L Silverman
@Mary G: I just did and replied to it. Short answer: I know Phil and I agree with him and I’m Jewish and an American. Kristol, Wolfowitz, the Wurmsers, the Ledeens, the Kagans, etc, as well as their non-Jewish American fellow travelers such as Richard Perle, John Bolton, James Woolsey, and Robert Zoellick, should have been identified as having come up with the idea for invading Iraq, promoted in the US by Kristol’s Project for a New American Century, as a result of work they were paid to do to create the concept and justification for Bibi Netanyahu and the Likud Party in the late 1990s. Perle was one of the primary authors of that policy paper for Bibi. And it was then turned into the PNAC pitch to the Bush 43 Administration.
CaseyL
There is also some crazy shit happening in what appears to be a Zoom town hall with LAPD:
Suck my dick and choke on it. I yield my time.
Yutsano
@CaseyL: That just showed up on my Twitter feed. I was like what just happened? The youngs is angry.
Achrachno
King sleeps with the cantaloupes!
Mary G
@Adam L Silverman: I agree those are all horrible people, Bill Kristol’s Never-Trumper views notwithstanding, and Yair does have a hair trigger, and I didn’t read Phil’s article, so I take your word that it wasn’t anti-Semitic.
Like I said, I thought she made a decent apology. Doesn’t really matter, because the voters didn’t love her:
And Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby are scum who should’ve been drummed out of society for outing her because they were mad at her husband.
artem1s
@Yutsano: David Brooks must be dying. So much impropriety!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Achrachno: FTW!
Mary G
This is not good:
Is he really trying to become Putin?
Mary G
@CaseyL:
@Yutsano: “I yield my time and fuck you” needs to be on T-shirts tomorrow.
Yutsano
@artem1s: Rude! Uncivil! Dare I say…SHRILL???
Laura Too
Bob Kroll, head of the union for MPD , is a fellow traveler of Steve King. https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/in-extraordinary-twitter-thread-minneapolis-council-member-accuses-police-of-deliberately-slowing-response-times-in-his-ward
This is what we’re fighting, an occupying army that is out of control. Hoods are off now and it is getting scary.
Yutsano
@Mary G: And sent to Auntie Maxine. :)
Adam L Silverman
@Mary G: I don’t think it was anti-Semitic, but I don’t always line up with everyone else on what is and is not. As you’ve seen me discuss here.
dmsilev
@Yutsano: Look, at least he has an appreciation for proper Parliamentary procedure. ‘There is a motion to ‘suck my dick’. Is there a second?’.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
Pennsylvania Primary Results
Biden…………..77%
Bernie………….19%
Tulsi……………….4%
Bernie lost ALL 67 counties.
Adam L Silverman
@Mary G: The only place he can actually deploy the active military and not be stopped, though I’m sure Mayor Bowser has the lawsuit ready to go, is DC. Given the walking back that Esper and Milley attempted today, I am sure there is a team of Staff Judge Advocates locked into a conference room in the Pentagon right now working out Rules of Engagement that would keep everyone from being courtmartialed should Biden win the election!
What we’re watching is a scared small minded man, with poor self control, try to flex muscles he doesn’t have.
dmsilev
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: The horse is not only dead, it’s a greasy splotch on the pavement. You can put away the baseball bat.
Adam L Silverman
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: But he won a lifetime supply of Utz cheese balls and Tastykakes as a consolation price!
Tulsi gets a stale pretzel.
Laura Too
There is this:
Steve Fletcher – Minneapolis Ward 3
@MplsWard3
9h
I don’t know yet, though several of us on the council are working on finding out, what it would take to disband the MPD and start fresh with a community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity.
Aleta
@Mary G: I see him trying to be like George Wallace; I imagine he watched and admired Wallace on TV 1962-76.
Aleta
@Laura Too: This really seems to be getting closer to laying the evil bare. Chilling amount of power.
Marmot
@Adam L Silverman: oh aha! Thanks!
MisterForkbeard
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I don’t care. Bernie gave up, and it’s not news. Even his stans seem to have lost a lot of their energy, at least on FB.
Laura Too
@Aleta:
Adam L Silverman
@Laura Too: They’d have to be able to decertify the MPD’s union first. Camden, NJ was able to do this. They then disbanded the police department and started fresh. Any officer that wanted to join the new Camden PD had to reapply and their previous service was fully vetted.
Kent
@dmsilev: But hey. With 17% Bernie is going to really INFLUENCE the platform!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
OT:
Did anybody else, at the end of January and into February, think you were watching the beginning of the end of human civilization? I remember reading online and watching the PRC shutting down the entire country as well as the chaos inside Wuhan and all I could wonder was, what the hell was this thing for the CCP shut down it’s economy. The reports of people collapsing in the streets in China and Wuhan authorities supposedly welding doors to apartment complexes shut didn’t help. And then the coronavirus began to spread to South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Iran, then Italy. It was fucking scary at the time. Still is, but not civilization ending
Laura Too
@Adam L Silverman: I hope so, we’ve been begging for years. They are an occupying army.
Kent
What do we gotta do to convince Steve King to jump back into the General Election as an independent or Libertarian candidate?
That would just be too perfect if he tried to pull a Lieberman, split the GOP vote, and let a Dem run the gauntlet.
MisterForkbeard
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Nah. I thought it was going to be bad (and it was, and still is) but I just kinda shrugged and listened to Martin. Who was alarmed but not running around with his hair on fire.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Kent:
Unfortunately, I don’t think Steve “Pig Muck” King is that stupid
DMcK
@Laura Too: They might want to take a few pointers from Camden, NJ, who disbanded and rebuilt their police force a few years back. One key component was non-unionization. Significantly smaller town, but it worked…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden,_New_Jersey#Law_enforcement
ETA: Adam beat me to it!
Laura Too
@Aleta: Not sure where my comment went, but yes. I’m hoping this is their last gasp. They teargassed a lot of peaceful protesters this last week in their temper tantrum over having 4 officers fired. POC have complained for years about their treatment and white people have been able to ignore it because it wasn’t happening to them. Well, now it is. And their kids.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@Kent: States Rights Party
NotMax
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
No. Not for a milli-micro-nanosecond.
rikyrah
@Adam L Silverman:
?????
Laura Too
If any of the local MSP folks are around and you have Twitter source or any websites as to what’s up tonight. Lots of sirens, damn helicopters again and squealing tires. Some gunshots, not much in the way of flashbangs tonight. The first few nights Unicorn Riot was a comfort so I could see what was going on but I haven’t found many sources last night or tonight. Rather unnerving.
rikyrah
@Adam L Silverman:
Have you been sick???
West of the Rockies
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Things are crazy-scary, for sure: 40 million unemployed, an impeachment, a whole town burning down (largely courtesy of climate change), a pandemic, civil unrest…
But, no, this is not the end, not all she wrote. The whole human comedy will continue. Better times are ahead. Just gotta get through this. GOTV.
Adam L Silverman
@rikyrah: My once every six months sinus infection. I explained it all last night in my first comment to my post on the Confederate flags.
Mary G
@MisterForkbeard: They’re fighting amongst themselves on Twitter something fierce. Allegedly David Sirota stole a copy of the email list and is trying to start a paid newsletter, and like Twitler says, you don’t take the boss’s money.
It says volumes that they haven’t been protesting,or come to think of it, they may have. I have blocked them all and only see screenshots other people post when they are especially ridiculous.scav
@West of the Rockies: Have to admit, I’ve never equated the political health of this particular nation with that of all of human civilization even on its good days.
But the. again, that may just be the archaeology leaking through.
Mary G
@Laura Too: Scary. Hope you are safe and that people are filming. Compton PD jumped a kid, took him behind a wall, looked around, and starting hitting and kicking. Unfortunately for them, another person they missed got the whole thing on film.
Kent
Steve King says “hold my beer son!”
Jay
West of the Rockies
@scav:
Goku (whose presence and contributions I very much appreciate) is, I believe, among our younger commentators. Hell, even at 58, I find myself seeking the counsel of folks older than myself who have seen more and have a broader perspective. Perhaps to those a generation or two younger than us, these are stupefying times. I wonder how this will impact my 18-year-old daughter.
smike
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Waaaaait a minute… This is civilization?
Laura Too
@Mary G: Yeah, we’re safe. I have night watch again at the front of the house, we have the back covered. Our neighbors are covering other parts of the block and we are all have each others #’s in case anything happens. I worry more for people with less resources. And they took a lot of the National Guard away. I worry that MPD and State Patrol don’t have as may witnesses to their bad behavior. I think most of the really bad folks who were here the first couple nights moved on. Get in, do the damage get out. Let the locals mop up,
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mary G: That’s LA Sheriffs, Compton disbanded their PD years ago.
Amir Khalid
@Mary G:
For what it’s worth, if someone mentions “American Jews” to me, my first thought is of Simon and Garfunkle.
Jay
Jay
Jay
https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/peaceful-protesters-vancouver-speak-out-against-racism-photos-2399715
PDF shared by the SFU/Wosk Center for Dialogue
https://www.patreon.com/posts/37737054
Template for holding your employer responsible for racial justice.
scav
@West of the Rockies: It still seems OTT to equate the furrent state of a nation to the intimate state of all civilization.
rikyrah
@Adam L Silverman:
Awe????
Glad that it’s not more serious.
Folks were missing you.
HumboldtBlue
Bear witness
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
You mean Tom & Jerry?
;)
Jay
Ivan X
It’s good news not because it means Dems might or might not pick up the seat but because the most visible and obvious symbol of evil in the House will no longer be in the House.
Jay
joel hanes
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
It was fucking scary at the time. Still is, but not
over yet.
It is not over yet, and this is going to be a terrible summer in a couple different ways.
HumboldtBlue
@Jay:
Thanks for that.
Mary G
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Honestly, when people talk about the 60s, I just remember being scared all the time. The music was great, but from the Cuban missile crisis, to practicing getting under our desks at school for when the Russians dropped the nuclear bomb on us, seeing black people assaulted with fire hoses and dogs, all the assassinations and hatred of nonwhites, people dying in Vietnam, it was bad, and this feels the same way, so I know what you mean.
Jay
frosty
@Adam L Silverman: Utz for the win! But no love for all the others in York County, the snack food capital of the world: Snyder’s, Herr’s, and Martins?
Jay
Given the number of “few bad apples” incidents caught on camera over the past few years, we really shouldn’t be talking about how “a few bad apples ruin the barrel”,
We should be asking what the fuck is wrong with apples!!!!
Jay
NotMax
@frosty
Pretzels? Berks county or go home.
;)
Jay
Y’all might remember her from the 1619 Project, or the dual Pulitzers this year,….
frosty
@NotMax: I’ll see your Reading and raise Hanover:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/04/29/706921280/how-the-pennsylvania-dutch-turned-a-rural-town-into-a-snack-food-empire
(Sorry, I haven’t mastered the link on the new(ish) site yet
SFBayAreaGal
@Adam L Silverman: See, Bigfoot does exist
Jay
Jay
Jay
Jay
Jay
Jay
Jay
NotMax
@frosty
Unless I go to the extra trouble of rinsing the excess salt off them I find Snyder’s close to inedible – all but the pretzel rods are overbaked and much too dry. As for sourdough pretzels, the less said the better. Can’t abide sourdough anything, wind up with more gas than Exxon.
YMMV.
NotMax
@NotMax
Personal test is to break off a small piece of the pretzel. If it at first offers a hint of resistance and then snaps cleanly, with minimal or no shattering or crumbling then it has been baked just right.
There go two miscreants
@frosty:
Maple Donuts!!!
PST
@frosty: I would like to make a claim for my street as a snack food capital. Mondelez International, which sounds like something George Costanza made up, is moving it’s headquarters here. They make Oreo, Cadbury, Chips Ahoy!, Triscuit, Wheat Thins, etc.
Uncle Cosmo
@Jay: “Sorry, that page does not exist.” Are you now misspelling links as well as common English words?
Dupe1970
@Jeffro: Asking Ernst about King is the correct strategy.
Dupe1970
@Kent: I was going to say Osteen has keen sense for which way the winds are blowing.
Chris Johnson
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Just so you know, this is a Russian talking point. I realize you found a way to say it and then half walk it back, but still.
Fuck that shit. WE are civilization. What the rightwingers and Russians and dirty cops are doing is the attack on what real civilization is, and they are outnumbered and outpowered and are not going to win.
Do not say ‘oh noes civilization is collapsing we lose’ at times like this. These are the times we make the most progress and nail down that progress so it’s not easily lost. It’s times of apparent softness where our civilization erodes, and that’s a challenge for a different generation if we do our part right.