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You are here: Home / Election 2020 / Open Thread: Suddenly, the (Rest of the) GOP Is “Concerned”

Open Thread: Suddenly, the (Rest of the) GOP Is “Concerned”

by Anne Laurie|  May 30, 20207:15 pm| 146 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, Open Threads, Repubs in Disarray!, Trumpery

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NEW: GOP operatives are increasingly concerned about their prospects this fall.

Not just the White House- Congress too.
One top Senate aide telling CNN:

"Put it this way, I am very glad my boss isn't on the ballot this cycle."

w/ @MichaelRWarren https://t.co/behEJfHPYb

— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) May 28, 2020

… Republican strategists are increasingly worried that Trump is headed for defeat in November and that he may drag other Republicans down with him.

Seven GOP operatives not directly associated with the President’s reelection campaign told CNN that Trump’s response to the pandemic and the subsequent economic fallout have significantly damaged his bid for a second term — and that the effects are starting to hurt Republicans more broadly. Some of these operatives asked not to be identified in order to speak more candidly.

Several say that public polls showing Trump trailing presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden mirror what they are finding in their own private polls, and that the trend is bleeding into key Senate races. The GOP already had a difficult task of defending 23 Senate seats in 2020. The job of protecting its slim 3-seat majority has only gotten harder as the pandemic has unfolded. States like Arizona and North Carolina, once thought to be home to winnable Senate races now appear in jeopardy.

Trump himself is being alerted to the problems. Politico reported this week that two of Trump’s own outside political advisers, Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie, warned the President last week that his support was falling in some swing states…

… To which the Squatter-in-Chief responded with a blizzard of offensive tweets, reinforcing every Repub weakness. So much for strategery!

… Whereas a few months ago, they were confident of the party’s chances across the board, many of the strategists who spoke to CNN have lowered their expectations, and now talk in terms of minimizing what they worry could be a wipeout for the GOP. This leaves them hoping for a minor rather than devastating defeat, something akin to Mitt Romney’s narrow loss in 2012, when Republicans lost two Senate seats, rather than John McCain’s performance four years earlier, when they lost eight.

The broader fear among Republicans is that the election becomes a referendum on Trump’s performance during the pandemic. Coupled with a cratered economy, the effect could be devastating by both depressing the Republican faithful and turning off swing voters…

The party’s chief concern, some of these Republicans say, should be holding onto its Senate majority. The task requires Senate candidates to make appeals to suburban voters who flipped to Democrats in the 2018 midterm elections as a reaction against Trump.

But that goal is complicated by how dependent Republican candidates are on maximal turnout for the President, even in states the Trump campaign does not expect to win. GOP Sens. Cory Gardner in Colorado and Susan Collins in Maine cannot afford a depressed Trump base in their states, even as they play up their independent identities to win swing voters.
And the concern for Republicans goes beyond endangered incumbents — including Sens. Martha McSally of Arizona and Thom Tillis of North Carolina. There is even a chance, in a bad year for Trump, that GOP-held Senate seats in Georgia and Montana could be in trouble, said Donovan…

Yes, some of this is poor-mouthing for the cameras. But every hint that the other Repubs might be trying to distance themselves from their Gilded God-King will set off another flurry of violently offensive statements, reminding low-info voters all over again that the GOP is welded together like a box of soggy cookies mildewing in the back of a dank cupboard. Best thing to do is throw the whole pack out — and make sure to take the trashbag outside before it stinks up the kitchen any further.

Reminder: Trump's absolute public opinion nadir came after Charletosville/Kaepernik. The public wants peace and quiet and at least a patina of mutual respect, not just lawnorder. https://t.co/vt98V2hTZb

— Alex Hazanov (@alexhazanov) May 29, 2020

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    May 30, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    Every day that Donald Trump spends in the White House, he further debases the values and ideals of our nation. He is wholly unfit to be president. pic.twitter.com/Fq90hSLuLz— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) May 30, 2020

  2. 2.

    NotMax

    May 30, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    efgoldman ’em.

  3. 3.

    Jeffro

    May 30, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    the GOP is welded together like a box of soggy cookies mildewing in the back of a dank cupboard. Best thing to do is throw the whole pack out — and make sure to take the trashbag outside before it stinks up the kitchen any further.

     

    Amazingly spot-on.  Thanks AL!

    Get these spoiled ‘nilla wafers out of our American kitchen, people!!

  4. 4.

    cain

    May 30, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    Yeah, I think they are going to get more and more fucked. Wait till August and September when it will get even worse as the death toll continues to mount and we can start pointing out how not a single Republican has spoken up about the tragedy of American lives lost. Coupled with the fact that they made some a big hub bub about 4 Americans lost in Benghazi followed by endless probes but has yet to do anything for 100k lives lost because of the pandemic – and you know by August, it will be 200k or more.

  5. 5.

    Jeffro

    May 30, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    @Baud: keep banging, Uncle Joe.  Just keep banging on the unfitness, over and over.

    There are SO many more of us than them.  Let’s end the abuse Nov 3rd!

  6. 6.

    Captain C

    May 30, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    @Baud: I wish Biden wouldn’t equivocate so much.

  7. 7.

    Luciamia

    May 30, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    Trumps solution to losing support in swing states? Insult those states.

  8. 8.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    The first act of the Democratic-majority Congress should be to pass a bill protecting the American flag from further desecration. No More Humping!

  9. 9.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 30, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    @Captain C: It appears that he might just be the right candidate for this particular time.

  10. 10.

    cain

    May 30, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    Yes, some of this is poor-mouthing for the cameras. But every hint that the other Repubs might be trying to distance themselves from their Gilded God-King will set off another flurry of violently offensive statements, reminding low-info voters all over again that the GOP is welded together like a box of soggy cookies mildewing in the back of a dank cupboard.

    And in that vein there is the Lincoln Project – that ends in the ants into that cabinet making it look like you’re going to need insecticide purge everything to clean it up once and for all.

  11. 11.

    Spanky

    May 30, 2020 at 7:38 pm

    As much as I’m worried about now to Nov 3, I’m more worried about Nov 3 – Jan 20. They’ll trash the WH and Senate on the way out.

  12. 12.

    MattF

    May 30, 2020 at 7:39 pm

    And Trump thinks tweeting about how setting ‘vicious dogs and ominous weapons’ on protesters is a winning strategy. Or… maybe he doesn’t think that, and just revels in the thought of causing pain to his enemies. Let’s ask those Republicans over there, the ones with the furrowed brows, what they think.

  13. 13.

    John Revolta

    May 30, 2020 at 7:39 pm

    Yesss. This is good. Everybody needs to talk this up- “Trump is going down and he’s taking the whole Party with him!” Then sit back and order all the popcorn.

  14. 14.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 7:39 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Did you hear that Joyce Beatty got pepper sprayed at the protests this afternoon? I heard her interviewed. She said the police gave no warning before spraying.

  15. 15.

    Captain C

    May 30, 2020 at 7:42 pm

    @Spanky: They’ll only have until the end of December/very beginning of January for the Senate.  If we’ve flipped that (and I think we have a good shot), things start to get real interesting…

  16. 16.

    Miss Bianca

    May 30, 2020 at 7:42 pm

    *snort*

    Oh, *now* they’re worried?

  17. 17.

    gwangung

    May 30, 2020 at 7:42 pm

    @debbie: It seems that some police are addicted to pepper spraying people indiscriminately, whether or not they’re causing a scene. Multiple examples of it….

  18. 18.

    Jerzy Russian

    May 30, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    Protests in Downtown La Mesa, CA right now.  Hear helicopters and sirens.  Apparently a group of protesters broke through a police line and blocked traffic on Interstate 8.

     

    La Mesa is just east of San Diego

  19. 19.

    hitchhiker

    May 30, 2020 at 7:44 pm

    One top Senate aide telling CNN:

    “Put it this way, I am very glad my boss isn’t on the ballot this cycle.”

    Don’t kid yourself, buddy. Your party is officially the party of death, incompetence, cruelty, and stupidity. This cycle, next cycle, forever.

  20. 20.

    Captain C

    May 30, 2020 at 7:44 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Indeed.  I think that in this country, political shittalk is received best when it comes from a kind (or kind-appearing) elderly white man.  Reagan really benefited from this.

  21. 21.

    Captain C

    May 30, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    @gwangung: Major reforms in police training are needed, yesterday.

  22. 22.

    John Revolta

    May 30, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    Also: Lindsey Graham is now dead even in the polls with his D opponent.

  23. 23.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 30, 2020 at 7:48 pm

    @debbie: I have never been a fan of the CPD.

  24. 24.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    Well, they’ve already killed off about 20% of a congressional district worth of statistically likely Trump voters, so yeah, they should be a little worried.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    May 30, 2020 at 7:54 pm

    @Martin:

    Martyrs of the Dow.

  26. 26.

    Jeffro

    May 30, 2020 at 7:54 pm

    From that CNN article in the post above

    The Trump campaign played down the worries of down-ballot Republicans, pointing out that a unified GOP offers the best only chance of winning across the board in November.  “Any candidate that wants to win will run with the President,” said Erin Perrine, the Trump campaign’s deputy communications director. “He has the energy, the enthusiasm and the grass roots infrastructure. If you are a candidate you are going to want to be a part of that movement.”  But what Republican professionals say would help immensely is if the President stuck to an encouraging message on bringing the country back from the pandemic.  “When he does it right three days in a row, it really bumps his numbers, (say what?) ” said Reed. “We need command performance on message discipline.”

    yes…I fully expect that the president* will be able to stay on-message with encouraging messages of hope and unity and recovery from now through November 3rd…LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  27. 27.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    @gwangung:

    Yep, all part of that crappy training along with lethal force.

  28. 28.

    Suzanne

    May 30, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    Boo-dee-hoo-dee-hoo.

    Thoughts and prayers.

  29. 29.

    Miss Bianca

    May 30, 2020 at 7:57 pm

    @Jeffro:

    “We need command performance on message discipline”.

    “We need command performance on message discipline” – From TRUMP??!! BWAH HA HA HA!!

  30. 30.

    Jeffro

    May 30, 2020 at 7:59 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I know, right?  THAT’s what y’all are pinning your hopes on, GOP?

    I have tried to draw to an inside straight with more optimism, and better odds.

  31. 31.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 30, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    The broader fear among Republicans is that the election becomes a referendum on Trump’s performance during the pandemic

    Even the adult GOP are idiots, the second election is always a referendum. No matter how hard they wish Trump can’t be both the incumbent and the challenger.

  32. 32.

    rikyrah

    May 30, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    As far as the protests in Chicago…color me unimpressed😒

     

     

     

    And cause of gentrification, they would have to walk phucking MILES to get to a neighborhood with somebody MAJORITY NOT-WHITE.

    Chicago is on a grid system.
    Downtown at State and Madison is basically 0/0.
    Go East and you will soon be in Lake Michigan.

    They gentrified Northfirst. No more Black neighborhoods North.

    They long have moved the Black neighborhoods West past Western -which is 2400 West (24 blocks, at least).

    SOUTH. They would have to go around 3900 south to begin a sizeable Black presence….so, that would be walking 40 blocks.

    Like I said, they ain’t even interested in the neighborhoods that have the policing problem.

    So, the Mayor can do what she wants to these mofos.

    This isn’t the 60’s, where our neighborhood s went up in flames.
    They wouldn’t be bothered to actually come into our neighborhoods…so, this is performance theater.

    Shyt….They aren’t even marching and protesting at Police headquarters, which is on the South Side.

     

    Just like those clowns in Atlanta. They didn’t protest at the state capitol, or the police headquarters, or even city hall….

    They were at CNN?😒😒😒

    Like I said, performance theater.

  33. 33.

    Luciamia

    May 30, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Was that a haiku?

  34. 34.

    Miss Bianca

    May 30, 2020 at 8:03 pm

    @Jeffro: I think the state of mind expressed in that statement goes beyond the Valley of  Wishful Thinking and plunges into the Abyss of Delusion.

  35. 35.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 30, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    @MattF: And Trump thinks tweeting about how setting ‘vicious dogs and ominous weapons’ on protesters is a winning strategy.

    Think the kid at school who cheep shots another kid and when his victims starts punching him folds up and start screaming “my dad is going to get you!”

  36. 36.

    dexwood

    May 30, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    @Baud: 
    Hope it involves flagellation and stoning.
    Off to light the grill, open a beer, toss a dart or two towards a target. Be well, Balloon Juice.

  37. 37.

    zhena gogolia

    May 30, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    He’s great in that clip.

  38. 38.

    HumboldtBlue

    May 30, 2020 at 8:07 pm

    Local folks took the streets in front of the county courthouse to protest the murder of George Floyd.

    I have little trust in policing as an institution and even less respect, but I do have enormous respect for police officers.

    This is Chief Andy Mills of Santa Cruz who spent three years as chief in Eureka. And while he was a cop through and through he did bring and implement some solid community policing policies that have made a difference.

  39. 39.

    Craigie

    May 30, 2020 at 8:07 pm

    NEW: GOP operatives are increasingly concerned about their prospects this fall.

    Golly, what a bummer.

  40. 40.

    Ken

    May 30, 2020 at 8:09 pm

    The Senate Republicans had their chance to remove him, and passed. Pence wouldn’t excite the base but he probably wouldn’t alienate everyone outside the base. On the other hand they would have had Trump screaming betrayal 24/7 – frankly I’m a little surprised some MAGA-head hasn’t taken a shot at Romney yet.

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    May 30, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    @Spanky:

    I’m more worried about Nov 3 – Jan 20.

    The Murderer-in-Chief -well, one of his minions, I guess — is “reaching out” to Norm Coleman, trying to see if they can use the same playbook.

    But, yeah, that worries me, too, especially if Traitor Turtle loses.

  42. 42.

    lamh36

    May 30, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    Anyone ever use CRM or SAP software?

    Is it easy to learn? Does it take formulized coursework or can you learn to use it on YouTube or something?

  43. 43.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    @Baud: Well, their individual economic output was pretty shit – not paying taxes, drawing public benefits. Honestly, if they weren’t already in the country they wouldn’t even be allowed in. So, if you think about it, it’s win-win – hedge funds get richer, and we save some tax dollars without losing any human working stock.

    Seems dumb we would waste such a ready source of protein, though.

  44. 44.

    Ken

    May 30, 2020 at 8:12 pm

    @Jeffro: “When he does it right three days in a row, it really bumps his numbers,”

    [dubious][citation needed]

  45. 45.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 30, 2020 at 8:12 pm

    Has Susan Collins’ face imploded from worry yet?

  46. 46.

    SFAW

    May 30, 2020 at 8:14 pm

    @Ken:

    The Senate Republicans had their chance to remove him, and passed.

    Not that it would ever happen, but my imagination pictures a scenario where Traitor Turtle — envisioning a 55-Dem Senate — goes to Speaker Pelosi and says “If you impeach him again, I’ll guarantee you the votes in the Senate.” And Speaker Pelosi — if she had as little class as I do — would respond “FOAD, asshole.”

  47. 47.

    HumboldtBlue

    May 30, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    @debbie:

    Here’s a gif of Beatty getting maced

  48. 48.

    TS (the original)

    May 30, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    I dream of seeing a Benghazi style investigation of trump – with the court not protecting him from having to appear before congress – for 9 hours  – and listen to how much he has damaged the US and the world. How he has torn asunder every belief and ideal that used to be the USA. I want to hear about what he didn’t do in every natural disaster that hit the US during his term. i want him to have to hear about how many died under his watch & how he did nothing to help. I want to see him listening to every tweet he made against President Obama & compare to what he said/did as president.

    I cannot decide if this is a pipe dream – or a real possibility.

  49. 49.

    SFAW

    May 30, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Has Susan Collins’ face imploded from worry yet?

    No, but her brow is so furrowed that the farmers up Caribou way are planting their corn in it.

  50. 50.

    Captain C

    May 30, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    @SFAW: Or, “Put it in writing, and notarize that shit.”

  51. 51.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    @lamh36: CRM is the generic term, so it runs the spectrum of languages and ease of use. SAP is not for novices. ABAP isn’t a  terribly difficult language to learn, but it is proper programming and generally it’s not someones entry point to programming. You’d also need a decent understanding of SQL and database design.

    Even among learning CRM programming, it’s not where you would normally start. It’s kind of a big, unwieldy thing, and fairly klunky and archaic by modern standards. You can do a lot with it, but it assumes people work in it full time, with suitable years of experience.

    I’ll add, I’ve never met someone who enjoyed it.

  52. 52.

    James E Powell

    May 30, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I admit that I did not see it coming. He isn’t just suited to the moment, he’s rising to the action.

  53. 53.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    @TS (the original): You’ll need to extradite him first.

  54. 54.

    James E Powell

    May 30, 2020 at 8:22 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Has Susan Collins’ face imploded from worry yet?

    The only question is whether the voters in Maine will continue to buy her bullshit.

  55. 55.

    Fair Economist

    May 30, 2020 at 8:22 pm

    @rikyrah: Is marching in non-majority-African-American neighborhoods a problem? It’s not as if they need to be told the police are a problem.

    Protesting near media at least increases the chance they’ll be covered. The media loves to “disappear” leftish protests.

  56. 56.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    @Captain C: There’s literally no assurance that McConnell could give that Nancy would trust.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    May 30, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    @James E Powell: Agree.

     

     

    @James E Powell: She was down by 10 in the last poll I saw.

  58. 58.

    Bill Arnold

    May 30, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    rDT twitter: “MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE”
    “Kristallnacht or the Night of Broken Glass”
    What exactly was Trump (or Scavino?) saying? That MAGAs will be broken like the windows of Jewish stores? Who the fuck wrote this tweet and WTF, and why the fuck?

  59. 59.

    SFAW

    May 30, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    @Captain C:

    Or, “Put it in writing, and notarize that shit.”

    OK, but clean up the language, in honor of our classy Speaker.

    I know she said she’d retire in (I think) 2023, but a large part of me wishes she’d stick around for as long as is necessary to get America back on track.

  60. 60.

    Mowgli

    May 30, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    @lamh36: CRM is a category of software including many different tools, the most well known of which is salesforce.com. CRMs vary widely in their ease of use, but are essentially just a contacts database for tracking the sales pipeline.

    SAP is a company in the Enterprise database arena that has specific products in their arsenal, all of which are fairly difficult to use and generally managed by experts in the field.

    Not sure what resources are available on-line to learn them, but of the two, a modern CRM likely is the easier to master if you’re not already a tech geek.

  61. 61.

    LuciaMia

    May 30, 2020 at 8:25 pm

     and ominous weapons’ on protesters

    Maybe Trump thinks the Secret Service has a scud-missile launcher behind the rose garden.

    Has his MAGA contingent shown up at the West Wing yet tonight?

  62. 62.

    SFAW

    May 30, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    @Baud:

    She was down by 10 in the last poll I saw.

    Not enough for my taste, but as long as it ends up being a D win, I’m OK with it.

  63. 63.

    sanjeevs

    May 30, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    Looking through the polls on https://mobile.twitter.com/PpollingNumbers in Senate races like Kansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Maine etc Trump is several points ahead of the GOP Senate candidate.

    Not sure what that means.

  64. 64.

    Frankensteinbeck

    May 30, 2020 at 8:33 pm

    @Ken:

    [dubious][citation needed]

    Back when Trump began the daily Coronavirus press conferences, he had several days of being able to lie about what the government was doing before it became clear that none of that stuff was actually happening.  His poll numbers briefly shot up.

  65. 65.

    Carlo

    May 30, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    I hope the GOP focuses on holding their ground in the Senate, and gets distracted away from the real prize: the state houses. This is a census year. A real blue wave that steamhoses the cockroaches out of the state houses would set the stage for a redistricting that would get rid of those stupid spiral-shaped gerrymandered districts. Then the GOP would be screwed for a decade.

    I also hope that the national Democratic party see the wisdom of investing in those races.

  66. 66.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Looks like she got sprayed because she was photographing him with her phone. I look forward to her statement when she recovers.

  67. 67.

    Baud

    May 30, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    @Carlo:

    The DLCC has been doing good work on that.

  68. 68.

    Sab

    May 30, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    @lamh36: Let me know what you hear about SAP.

  69. 69.

    Ken

    May 30, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    @Captain C: Or, “Put it in writing, and notarize that shit.”

    Followed by releasing the document to every news outlet, followed either by Trump suffering an aneurysm, or ordering McConnell arrested and executed for lèse-majesté.

  70. 70.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 8:40 pm

    I don’t care what anyone says. She is great!

    How to the black people pic.twitter.com/iCBXIKTI8N— Sarah Cooper (@sarahcpr) May 30, 2020

  71. 71.

    Cameron

    May 30, 2020 at 8:40 pm

    Remarkable juxtaposition of photos – an orange yeti in a suit next to a turtle wearing spectacles.  A Lewis Carroll story directed by Wes Craven.

  72. 72.

    MisterForkbeard

    May 30, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    @Miss Bianca:  What’s nuts is that they think THREE DAYS of staying on message is a “command performance”.

    Jesus, even they think he’s gigantic idiot.

  73. 73.

    dnfree

    May 30, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    @lamh36: CRM is a generic term for customer relationship management. There are different software systems, some standalone and some integrated with business systems. SAP is a German company with an entire suite of enterprise management software, heavily customizable for a given company’s way of doing business. I’m one of many people who lost a job maintaining my employer’s proprietary homegrown software when my company switched to using SAP.
    I’m sure you can learn the general ideas of CRM or SAP but implementation will be different for every company.  If you want to learn how to customize SAP that’s pretty intensive training and experience. 

  74. 74.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 30, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    this is… surprising

    Jennifer Rubin @JRubinBlogger May 29
    Trump does not give a f+++ about dead African Americans. That’s what he effectively said.

    @debbie: I agree. I was trying to figure out what makes it so damn good, I’ve decided it’s especially the way she uses her eyes.

  75. 75.

    The Pale Scot

    May 30, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    @lamh36:

    From what I’ve heard, implementing  SAP requires the company to organize itself to suit the software, instead of the software being customized to a company’s existing structure.

     

    Which many executive staff types didn’t grok until after the package was bought, if at all. That was years ago you’d assume that these guys would be IT savvy by now

  76. 76.

    piratedan

    May 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    What needs to happen is for every single bit of illegality perpetuated by both this administration and the GOP and those in the media that covered them, be prosecuted. Those found guilty punished… those appointed to positions and found to have been done so under fraudulent means… rescinded.

    All this shit that they pulled needs to be for naught… they get nothing but their lives and the clothes on their backs.

  77. 77.

    Mike in NC

    May 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    I’m willing to stand in line for a couple of hours to piss on Fat Bastard’s grave.

  78. 78.

    different-church-lady

    May 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    @Jeffro: 

    “We need command performance on message discipline.”

    Perrine does understand that the only message that will ever come from Trump is, “I am the greatest, the rest of the world can pound sand,” yes? By all means, let’s have a lot of message discipline.

  79. 79.

    MisterForkbeard

    May 30, 2020 at 8:47 pm

    @lamh36: I know very little about SAP, but I do an enormous amount of work with one of its competitors (NetSuite). However, they compete in the ERP space, not the CRM space.

    My wife knows a little Salesforce though, which is basically THE CRM software right now.

  80. 80.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 8:48 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I think you’re right. I see a bit of Eric Cartman in her interpretation of Trump, too.

  81. 81.

    MisterForkbeard

    May 30, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @The Pale Scot: I can’t speak to its use now, but 5 years or so ago SAP was basically a nightmare to customize and fairly rigid, but it was very powerful once you were aligned with its needs.

    That said, it’s much better at ERP needs than CRM. I wouldn’t want to use it for that unless I had to – there’s a decent chance you’d ultimately want to integrate with a CRM platform too.

  82. 82.

    Bill Arnold

    May 30, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @Martin:

    There’s literally no assurance that McConnell could give that Nancy would trust.

    A consensually-fitted tamper-resistant explosive collar with a periodic encrypted keep-alive signal sent to it. Perhaps. (If somebody subsequently jammed the signal, mmmm, these things happen.)

  83. 83.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 30, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @Mike in NC: The Hoarse Whisperer, in reply to a trump tweet, that got enough replay that I’m sure The Beast saw it

    The Hoarse Whisperer @HoarseWhisperer
    Your eventual tomb will see more urine than a stadium bathroom.

    you think the “library” will be at Mar-A-Lago?

  84. 84.

    Patricia Kayden

    May 30, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @Spanky: As long as they’re on the way out, I don’t care what they do.  President Biden will have a lot of work to do to restore dignity and respect to our White House.

  85. 85.

    kindness

    May 30, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    The first thing Uncle Joe has to do as soon as he is sworn in as president is to cancel all of Trump’s Executive Orders.  Then he can go to as many balls as he likes.  In the morning he can fire all the Trump misfits installed into the works.

  86. 86.

    Ken

    May 30, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: President Biden will have a lot of work to do to restore dignity and respect to our White House.

    Perhaps he can send Trump on a goodwill world tour.  It could even be a money-maker, if coupled with sales of rotten vegetables.

  87. 87.

    Starfish

    May 30, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    @Fair Economist: It shows a lack of commitment and a willingness to make the protest about the convenience of protestors as opposed to solidarity with the people most affected by police brutality.

  88. 88.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    Well, this looks like fun. Springsteen and Dropkick Murphys together. (Especially American Land)

  89. 89.

    Woodrow/asim

    May 30, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    @rikyrah: Just like those clowns in Atlanta. They didn’t protest at the state capitol, or the police headquarters, or even city hall….

    They were at CNN?

    The CNN Building also has the ATL Midtown police HQ.

    They aren’t clowns. Agree or not with the protests or riots, this shit is real.

  90. 90.

    NotMax

    May 30, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    Open thread?

    Limited time availability on YouTube stage show this weekend is Hairspray.

    A show I’m ambivalent about, but check out some of that cast:

    Kristin Chenoweth
    Harvey Fierstein
    Ariana Grande
    Rosie O’Donnell
    Jennifer Hudson
    Andrea Martin
    Martin Short
    Sean Hayes
    .

  91. 91.

    Jeffro

    May 30, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    @Miss Bianca: yup

    I’ll be playing their plunge-screams on a loop from November until roughly 2035

  92. 92.

    zhena gogolia

    May 30, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    @NotMax:

    Wow, sounds good.

    We’re thoroughly enjoying Desperate Romantics, recommended by satby, on Prime.

  93. 93.

    Jeffro

    May 30, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    @Ken: in fairness, that’s vastly more data than they usually work with/care about

  94. 94.

    Jeffro

    May 30, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: dang

    way to go J-Rubs!!

  95. 95.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    May 30, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: surprising in what way?  She’s loathed Dump since Day One.

  96. 96.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 30, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    Huh. Just got a curfew notice from the City of Atlanta on my phone. It said to stay home until sunrise tomorrow.

    Okay.

  97. 97.

    Jeffro

    May 30, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @Mike in NC: happy to pass the time in line with you and fellow American patriots when that happy day arrives

  98. 98.

    satby

    May 30, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @zhena gogolia: 👏👏

  99. 99.

    Another Scott

    May 30, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    They are right to be worried.

    After stoking the fires of white supremacy and racism your entire presidency, you have the nerve to feign moral superiority before threatening violence? ‘When the looting starts the shooting starts’??? We will vote you out in November. @realdonaldtrump

    — Taylor Swift (@taylorswift13) May 29, 2020

    (via Forbes, via Google News)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  100. 100.

    lamh36

    May 30, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    @Martin:

    @Mowgli:

    @dnfree:

    ETA: Thanks for all answers.

    I’m looking at some jobs outside the lab and a few mentieond CRM or SAP familiarity.

    I just wanted to know if it’s something I can learn on the job or something I should look into learning more about before applying for a job?

  101. 101.

    NotMax

    May 30, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @zhena gogolia

    Typo in the coding, but if one clicks on the word Hairspray in the comment, the link should work.

    (furtive whisper) I cheated and downloaded it for later sampling when am more in the frame of mind for it.

  102. 102.

    Ruckus

    May 30, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    I believe I could stand in line for 24 hrs to crap on his grave. It would be only fair, after all the crapping he’s done on the country. But personally I think his body should be hauled out to sea about 200 miles on a garbage barge and dumped at sea so that no land has to be declared a hazardous waste zone.

    BTW I’m in for up to 12 hrs for pissing on it.

  103. 103.

    NotMax

    May 30, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    @Ruckus

    Money to be made hawking commemorative thunder mugs to those on the long, long line.

    :)

  104. 104.

    SFAW

    May 30, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    @Ruckus:

    BTW I’m in for up to 12 hrs for pissing on it.

    I’ll bring the six-packs for when we’re waiting in line.

  105. 105.

    Baud

    May 30, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    President Donald Trump announced on Saturday that he intends to let Russia attend the next Group of Seven summit.

     

    Since 2014, Russia’s membership in the organization has been suspending in response to Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea. That changed the name from the G8 Summit to the G7 Summit.

    ETA: better story

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/30/trump-postpone-g-7-meeting-291032

    Always good to leave your former employer on good terms in case you need references.

  106. 106.

    lamh36

    May 30, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    WTF!

    Dude deserved the damn beatdown.

    Who da hell even used a damn bow & arrow outside of extreme huting nowadays…smh mofo thinks he’s freakin Hawkeye

     

    @DavidBegnaud

    FollowFollow @DavidBegnaud

    More

    BREAKING: Video out of Salt Lake City shows a man readying to aim a bow & arrow at demonstrators as he yells “all lives matter” – demonstrators jumped him and then set his car on fire. Police responded.
    https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1266898359677325312

  107. 107.

    J R in WV

    May 30, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @lamh36: 

    Anyone ever use CRM or SAP software?

    SAP is pretty sophisticated… I found it easy to take an SAP program and change it until it did what I wanted, but it was a complex development environment with heavy capability for sophisticated statistics analysis. I don’t think youtube would help someone learn to use it …

  108. 108.

    frosty

    May 30, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @NotMax: How did you download it?

  109. 109.

    Ken

    May 30, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Just got a curfew notice from the City of Atlanta on my phone. It said to stay home until sunrise tomorrow.

    But freedom!

  110. 110.

    Baud

    May 30, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

     

     

  111. 111.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    May 30, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    @NotMax: Money to be made hawking commemorative thunder mugs to those on the long, long line.

    Extra large and highly caffeinated, free refills of course.

  112. 112.

    stacib

    May 30, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    @rikyrah: I thought it was just me.  I watched the live feed from Channel 5, and when I saw them going down Wacker, heading west, my thought was WTF.  Really, you’re going to protest in the West Loop?

  113. 113.

    lamh36

    May 30, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    @tperry518 12m12 minutes ago

    More

    Tim Perry Retweeted Kamala Harris

    After attending the protests outside of the WH @KamalaHarris called into CNN. She mentioned the SpaceX launch and the 2 min and 38 sec the launch needed to detach. Harris said “George Floyd, for 2:53 seconds had a knee on his neck.” Harris added, “this is why people are marching”

    https://twitter.com/tperry518/status/1266904374669914114

     

    @chrislongview
    “Why should there be two systems of justice or two definitions of the significance of the passage of time in America?”
    [email protected]
    https://twitter.com/chrislongview/status/1266903824276639746

  114. 114.

    Suzanne

    May 30, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    @Ruckus: I dream of leaving a giant Cleveland steamer on his grave (or on his face, whatevs). I have had to settle for having my husband photograph me giving the one-finger salute to the Trump International Hotel.

  115. 115.

    Patricia Kayden

    May 30, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    2020 has been rough so far. Sigh.

    Week 185 was one of the darkest weeks so far. The week began with Trump spinning conspiracy theories to distract from losing 100,000 Americans, and ended with our country burning in the flames of our racial divide, with Trump throwing kerosene on.https://t.co/bzg4Nyc9sZ— Amy Siskind 🏳️‍🌈 (@Amy_Siskind) May 31, 2020

  116. 116.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @lamh36: White trash legolas is gonna have fun explaining that to his insurance company.

  117. 117.

    Ruckus

    May 30, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @Krope, the Formerly Dope:

    I wouldn’t need caffeine to stay awake, it would be an honor to stand in that line.

  118. 118.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @Another Scott:

    Boy, when you’ve lost Taylor…

  119. 119.

    Ken

    May 30, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @stacib: Really, you’re going to protest in the West Loop?

    Some good restaurants there, though I don’t know which ones are still open for business.

  120. 120.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    May 30, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    @Ruckus: I wouldn’t need caffeine to stay awake, it would be an honor to stand in that line.

    If I understand correctly, caffeine stimulates urination and defecation.

  121. 121.

    debbie

    May 30, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    @lamh36:

    Looked a little unsteady on his feet.

  122. 122.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    Other video of the SLC guy.

    Gotta say, SLC has certainly gotten a lot more interesting since I was last there.

  123. 123.

    lamh36

    May 30, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    wow…anyone seen this?

    @jentaub 6m6 minutes ago

    More

    Holy shit. The police in Minneapolis are shooting rubber teargas canisters at reporters. @MSNBC @AliVelshi

     

     

    @kylegriffin1 3m3 minutes ago

    More

    Kyle Griffin Retweeted Kyle Griffin

    .@AliVelshi in Minneapolis: “We got hit, unfortunately, with tear gas without our masks on because it was that fast … What happened here, there was no warning whatsoever. They literally pulled into the station, jumped out of the car, and they just came in and started shooting.”

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1266909803055628289

  124. 124.

    Sebastian

    May 30, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @lamh36:

     

    It’s moronic to put that as a requirement. The CRM system, no matter if implemented in SAP, Netsuite, Peoplesoft, JD Edwards, etc, will be HEAVILY customized to the processes and workflows of that particular company.

     

    The only thing universal and common is that you are in front of a screen and using a mouse and keyboard.

     

    Your only answer to that should be “yes, we have a SAP CRM at our company and I had to use it like everyone else.” Should there ever be a follow up question (which would be even more moronic) it deserves only one answer “you will have to discuss this with my previous employer MegaCorp if they are willing to disclose their internal processes to you.”

  125. 125.

    NotMax

    May 30, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    @frosty

    For many years had a different add-on which did the job with no complaints on this end but have since switched to and like Easy YouTube Downloader Express for Firefox.

    Won’t get full 1080p HD with the costless version but more than sufficient quality to watch on the computer monitor. (The paid upgrade option is pay-what-you-can, so not necessarily a hit in the wallet. I just feel more comfy with keeping a third-party’s additional processing out of the equation.)

    Note that the first time you go to YouTube after installing it the download option may not appear. Closing the browser completely and then going back in will remedy that.

  126. 126.

    NotMax

    May 30, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    @Krope, the Formerly Dope

    Um, thunder mugs (also known as chamberpots) aren’t made to hold coffee.

    ;)

  127. 127.

    Benw

    May 30, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    @lamh36: screaming “all lives matter” while preparing to kill someone is a pretty wild thought process

  128. 128.

    Ruckus

    May 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    @Suzanne:

    No kidding.

    Saw on twitter,  picture of a grave/headstone for shitforbrains with a toilet on top of where the casket/body would be. Sign $2 to urinate, $90 to defecate. Now that’s a money making gig right there.

  129. 129.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    May 30, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    @NotMax: Um, thunder mugs (also known as chamberpots) aren’t made to hold coffee.

    Hmm, never heard that term.  With appropriate design choices, these could likely do double doodie, er, duty.

  130. 130.

    Ruckus

    May 30, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    @Krope, the Formerly Dope:

    Still, not a problem.

    I could work up a warm one on my deathbed for shitforbrains.

  131. 131.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    @lamh36: Yeah, 3rd incident I’ve seen:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8373001/Journalist-left-blind-one-eye-shot-rubber-bullet-Minneapolis-protest.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTHbtIvEV8

    The last one is pretty obvious. Crew is at the police lines, not near the protesters, and the officer just unloads straight on them, clearly targeting them. Maybe he too thinks the media is the enemy.

  132. 132.

    Suzanne

    May 30, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    @Ruckus: Eat some hot sauce and just go to town. Some intestinal distress all over that fucker.

  133. 133.

    Ruckus

    May 30, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    @Sebastian:

    Nice info for job interview!

    And it informs them that you do not divulge company info. Nice!

  134. 134.

    Martin

    May 30, 2020 at 10:04 pm

    @lamh36: Winning hearts and minds

    https://twitter.com/skye_rtin/status/1266877962877460480

    Knocked an old guy with a cane to the ground for no reason.

  135. 135.

    Ruckus

    May 30, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    @Martin:

    I posted a couple threads down but erased as I’m not really comfortable with what I wrote, something about what could be actually going on with all the trouble makers. Just wondering if there is a lot more to this than a few far right trouble makers.

  136. 136.

    burnspbesq

    May 30, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    @debbie:

    Some of the responses to Tay-Tay’s tweet are pretty ugly. Some seem shocked that a blonde pop star is capable of cognition.

  137. 137.

    burnspbesq

    May 30, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    @Martin:

    That video will be Plaintiff’s Exhibit 1.

  138. 138.

    HumboldtBlue

    May 30, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    I can’t breathe! I can’t breathe!

  139. 139.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 30, 2020 at 11:03 pm

    @Krope, the Formerly Dope: From my Army experience, I don’t know about defecation, but real caffeinated coffee is a must when you’re doing a piss test of an entire battalion, and no one can leave the theater until they’ve turned over the sample.  Wrecks an entire morning’s training plan.

  140. 140.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 30, 2020 at 11:05 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Pretty powerful stuff.

  141. 141.

    Matt McIrvin

    May 30, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    What can Biden or any national leader do about the Minneapolis cops? Nothing. At this point, I doubt even the governor or the mayor can do anything about them, if they even want to.

    Trump can send in the Army to support them while they shoot reporters, though.

  142. 142.

    Captain C

    May 30, 2020 at 11:55 pm

    @Baud: So what if the other countries involved say “fine, fuck that noise, we’re not coming.”?

  143. 143.

    Buddhacat

    May 31, 2020 at 12:53 am

     

    @lamh36:

    CRM: there’s only one. Unless you want to be a salesperson (end user), you probably want to become an admin or biz analyst etc. Salesforce has multiple courses, certifications, and levels, and there’s generally good demand for that skill set, especially if combined with their CPQ or Einstein (analytics) products.

    ERP: many options, but I think SAP is most common among least evil (Oracle being most evil). Similar to the comments above regarding learning it.

    Other good ones: Service Now, Workday, and Splunk. Similar trajectories as above.

  144. 144.

    CarolDuhart2

    May 31, 2020 at 2:19 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: i keep coming back to this:  will there even be a tomb to go to?  I put nothing past these people to just pocket the money, announce that he’s dead, and plant him in an unmarked grave. They can’t monetize his funeral, you know.

  145. 145.

    SFAW

    May 31, 2020 at 7:26 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    They can’t monetize his funeral, you know.

    Oh, sure they can; they’ve found ways to monetize anything,  most of them vile and disgusting. Selling re-purposed MAGAt hats to the traitors/racists who show up to “pay their respects to the Greatest Preznit Evah,” for example.

    It has also occurred to me that the line to piss/shit on his grave will probably dwarf the number of “persons” who attended his inauguration.

  146. 146.

    Geeno

    May 31, 2020 at 9:00 am

    @lamh36: It can be pretty complicated depending on what it is you’re doing. SAP is so broad in what you can do with it. It really does need some training. I worked as an SAP consultant for a while and we had online courses that we had to take to stay current.

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