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You are here: Home / Politics / Impeachment / Impeachment Trial – February 4, 2020

Impeachment Trial – February 4, 2020

by Cheryl Rofer|  February 4, 20202:19 pm| 30 Comments

This post is in: Impeachment, Live Blogging, Trump Crime Cartel

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Today is a day for more debate. The wrongly-named Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana is now speaking.

Sorry I’m late with this.

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  1. 1.

    germy

    February 4, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    “partisan rage coursing through their veins…”

    Mr. Kennedy has a way with words. But did he forget his teeth?

  2. 2.

    Leto

    February 4, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    David Perdue speaking right now says that, “Even corruption, under these definitions (under the Constitution) don’t qualify for Impeachment.” Like… a;lkjasdfpo;ijhuag;lkhas

    These. Mother. Fuckers.

  3. 3.

    Jeffro

    February 4, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    @germy: Speaking for all 70M of us, Sen Kennedy, we’re okay with a little partisan rage.  Or a lot, actually.

    Seeya in November, clown!

  4. 4.

    debbie

    February 4, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    @germy:

    A rage no less than that from the GOP when a black man won the presidency. Grrrr.

    It’s like they’ve totally forgotten how they all got together while Obama was being sworn in and agreed on 100% obstruction.

  5. 5.

    Leto

    February 4, 2020 at 2:33 pm

    David Perdue talking about how when articles are sent over, that the Senate “BY LAW” has to stop everything it’s doing, all legislation, and take up impeachment. Like the fucking Senate has done anything for the past 6 years, except pass a massive tax windfall and stock the courts with conservative judges.

  6. 6.

    gene108

    February 4, 2020 at 2:34 pm

    @Leto:

    Hey, they did try to repeal the PPACA, and take away our right to health insurance, even with pre-existing conditions.

    But for reasons, he took to the grave, McCain saved us all in the final AHCA vote.

  7. 7.

    Shakti

    February 4, 2020 at 2:39 pm

    My way of coping is to look toward the future. :/

    There’s a good chance my cousin’s child will be going to college in Georgia. He is 17 now and will turn 18 in July.  I do not know how to frame, “Happy 18th birthday, this is how you register to vote and this is what you need to do so! Also there’s a history in the US of the government taking away your right to vote!”

    Or I could just get him a xkcd book. Thoughts?

  8. 8.

    Leto

    February 4, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    @gene108: Yeah, true shining examples of legislative leaders.

  9. 9.

    WaterGirl

    February 4, 2020 at 2:44 pm

    I have tried to watch every day, but I have finally lost heart.

    Cheryl, I hope your lunch meetup was nice, anyway!

  10. 10.

    Cheryl Rofer

    February 4, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    @WaterGirl: We have a few inches of snow, so we postponed!

  11. 11.

    Shakti

    February 4, 2020 at 2:48 pm

    @germy:  See, I wish Schumer was a little more obstructionist and partisan. I don’t think the Senate Dems were obstructionist enough.  Of course  IOKIYAR, but I’m tired of this crap about partisanship from the most partisan, divisive party ever.

  12. 12.

    pat

    February 4, 2020 at 2:49 pm

    The previous thread mentioned that Rand Paul several times mentioned the name of the whistleblower.  Was that allowed on the live feeds?

  13. 13.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 4, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    a thankless and forgettable job, but it just occurred to me that I, diagnosed twitter-internet-MSNBC political junkie, haven’t heard who is going to deliver the Dem response to The Beast tonight.

    John Bolton has about four or five hours to make my prediction of him being the skunk at trump’s picnic come true

  14. 14.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 4, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    @Shakti:

    I wish Schumer was a little more obstructionist and partisan. I don’t think the Senate Dems were obstructionist enough.

    What would that have looked like?

  15. 15.

    Mnemosyne

    February 4, 2020 at 2:57 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I think that the new(ish) governor of Michigan is doing the official Democratic response. And of course Wilmer is going to give his stump speech as an “independent response.” 🙄

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 4, 2020 at 3:00 pm

    @Mnemosyne: ah, thanks

    and, oh for fuck’s sake

  17. 17.

    EthylEster

    February 4, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    “wrongly-named Senator John Kennedy”?

    I thought we got past JFK worship several decades ago.

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    February 4, 2020 at 3:11 pm

    @Shakti

    Voter registration forms aren’t that difficult to come by. Don’t know about where you are but there’s one in every phone book here. Probably a way to access them online and print them out, too. Buy him a fancy-schmancy new pen (traditional graduation gift anyway), then sit down with him to use it to fill it out together and take him to a mailbox.

  19. 19.

    dp

    February 4, 2020 at 3:12 pm

    No big deal.  Trust me, John Neely Kennedy has nothing to stay that is worth hearing.

  20. 20.

    WaterGirl

    February 4, 2020 at 3:13 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: I wish we would get some snow!

    If you don’t pick a Tuesday, it sounds like the Zoe person could likely join you.

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    February 4, 2020 at 3:14 pm

    @Mnemosyne: An independent response from someone running to lead the democratic party.  I may never stop being enraged.

  22. 22.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 4, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    @Shakti: Send your nephew to vote.gov. He selects where he lives and is given instructions on how to register there. Best of luck to him in his new life!

  23. 23.

    opiejeanne

    February 4, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    @WaterGirl: It’s been snowing for hours here in semi-rural King County, just east of Seattle. None of it is sticking because the ground is too warm. I think it’s 33 degrees here, but our temp reader and the nearby weather station disagree.

  24. 24.

    glory b

    February 4, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: I know, I feel like Bernie and his minions are just rubbing our noses in it.

  25. 25.

    Puddinhead

    February 4, 2020 at 3:34 pm

    @EthylEster:

    You don’t have to worship a hound dog to know how it compares to pig shit.

  26. 26.

    Quinerly

    February 4, 2020 at 3:48 pm

    @WaterGirl: I think we are out of the Tues mode. I’m tied up the next 3 Tuesdays, then off to Gallup. Snow still coming down. I walked 45 minutes for a pedigreed hot sipping chocolate. We mixed the NM Chile chocolate elixir with Havana Rum 70% Chocolate, organic almond milk, rum, citrus. I freely admit that I have First World Problems. 😈

  27. 27.

    John Revolta

    February 4, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    @pat: Paul keeps doing this. I think this is like the third time. I wonder what’s behind this……….?

  28. 28.

    J R in WV

    February 4, 2020 at 5:45 pm

     

     

     

     

    @EthylEster:

    JFK had his issues, but he was a genuine war hero, taking a plywood PT boat against the Imperial Japanese Navy, in the dark. That’s bravery past my understanding, actually. He didn’t go crazy during the Cuban Missile Crisis, which showed calm resolve to me.

    Probably the worst act he took was allowing the Bay of Pigs mission to go forward into a horror show, perhaps the least well planned mission the CIA ever undertook, having drunk their own Koolaid regarding Castro hate. Of course that was planned by Eisenhower appointees and Kennedy was pressured into allowing it to continue.

    We have no way to guess what he might have accomplished had the fascists in Dallas not worked up their extreme hate for him.

    When I was a kid, modest working class homes I visited had 3 portraits on their living room wall: Jesus Christ, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Two out of three ain’t bad.

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    February 4, 2020 at 6:24 pm

    @Quinerly: That sounds lovely!

  30. 30.

    Shakti

    February 4, 2020 at 10:49 pm

     

     

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:  @NotMax: Thanks ! That’s a good suggestion! That way I’m not pestering him and his parents about where he’s going anyways. (It’s a bit of a sore spot because they were expecting him to go to an Ivy. He was telling me that the furthest away he applied was Northeastern. I warned him his mother might make a surprise road trip visit if he ends up at UGA.)   I’m in  central Florida and I don’t know when I’ll be up in Atlanta again.

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