If I were her I’d probably print out and frame that Fox News chyron that inaccurately reported her death last year https://t.co/f43ZBRrGwa
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 8, 2020
REPORTER:
Some people are calling it the worst briefing they've ever gotten.SPEAKER PELOSI:
Well, there's stiff competition for that from this administration.
pic.twitter.com/IBbH6AnZ14— David Gura (@davidgura) January 9, 2020
Breaking: Pelosi says House will vote Thursday on measure to limit Trump's military actions regarding Iran https://t.co/lixBxJbZoP
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 8, 2020
● The U.S. military said no Americans were killed or wounded in the Iranian missile attacks on bases in Iraq early Wednesday.
● U.S. officials said they knew Iranian missiles were coming hours before the attack.
● Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, called the attack a “slap in the face” of the United States but said more needed to be done to end the U.S. presence in the region and avenge the death of powerful Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani.
● Iraq’s acting prime minister said he was informed of the attack ahead of time.
● Lawmakers left a closed-door briefing with top national security officials divided over whether the strike that killed Soleimani was legally justified, and Pelosi said the House will vote Thursday on a measure to limit Trump’s military actions regarding Iran…
Feels different than the last time Barbara Lee was urging caution about launching a new war in Asia pic.twitter.com/ejMVfEdJxv
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 8, 2020
Also in the Power league, a man with professional experience of eldritch horror:
I’ll match that, making $150,000. But full press corps. https://t.co/ToewY1Qr5J
— Stephen King (@StephenKing) January 8, 2020
SiubhanDuinne
Where is everybody?
JPL
Good news about RGB’s health.
JPL
@SiubhanDuinne: You’re up early or is it late?
TS (the original)
Trump is really scared to let anyone know what he is, or is not doing. And just to mention because it rarely is said ….
……
If the Obama administration had gone a week without a press conference, the GOP would be calling for impeachment
Edit: I remember those videos – released every week, detailing what had happened “this week in the white house”.
satby
@SiubhanDuinne: still on the thread downstairs? Good morning!
@JPL: And good morning to you ?
OzarkHillbilly
Nice profile: Doctor, sailor, Super Bowl contender: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif’s strange career
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: Ewwww, football.
Baud
@TS (the original):
You don’t remember how it was a thing in the media when candidate Hillary wasn’t holding enough press conferences as they would have liked.
JPL
@satby: I was concerned about you and glad to see your post. Since you called the police, you probably scared away the creep, but it’s still unsettling.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Ann Selzer poll (Gold Standard) is currently being conducted in Iowa for the Des Moines Register. They usually release the findings on a Saturday night.
Monmouth is releasing their poll of New Hampshire this morning, around 9 AM eastern.
I wish best of luck to your favorite candidate (as long as it isn’t Wilmer).
Baud
@Baud:
satby
@JPL: yeah, it’s normally a quiet neighborhood, though the sketchy factor has gone up in the last year. But I’m fine, if it was a prowler I was home and if it was a peeping Tom I probably bored him to death. It’s a sturdy brick house which would take a good deal of noise to break into and my slacker pups would at least bark then ? I think it was just an oddball incident.
satby
@Baud: I totally remember that because I had a running fight with my former classmate the journalist about it, since he also banged that drum. And was dismissive of candidate Trump being covered with any rigor since “he’s a joke and won’t get elected”. Joke was on all of us. I quit following my former friend immediately after the election.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
TS (the original)
@Baud: Sure do – the media does what it takes to keep the GOP in power. They consider trump’s tweets the equivalent of an Address to the Nation.
raven
@satby: We really like our SimpliSafe.
TS (the original)
@Baud: From your link
Chris Cillizza in the Washington Post: “Hillary Clinton hasn’t held a press conference in 257 days. That’s ridiculous.”
Alex Pfeiffer in the Daily Caller: “Hillary Clinton hasn’t held a press conference in 260 days”
I hold the press more responsible than the MAGAs for electing trump.
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
Baud
@TS (the original):
I don’t know about more responsible, but the media was in on the plot.
JPL
@TS (the original): trump knows that the news media’s bark is worse than their bite. Munchin won’t even release what it costs to protect the president, cuz why should he.
Baud
gene108
@Baud:
I remember. There was a daily reminder that it’s been “161 days”, since Hillary had a press conference, with her press gaggle, therefore “what is she hiding” was the only logical conclusion.
I think the media must’ve been popping champaign bottles, when Trump won the EC, because they finally brought the bitch down.
NotMax
Trio of pix to help temper the blech. #1 – #2 – #3 (duck included)
:)
gene108
@satby:
Trump shot up to the top of the Republican primary polls immediately after his racist speech in Trump Tower announcing his candidacy.
He never trailed in any poll from that day onward.
Yet the media still never took him seriously as a candidate.
Why doe media organizations bother to pay to have polls done, if the journalists, political analysts, etc. just ignore them and make candidate vetting decisions based on their “gut”, “instinct”, or whatever?
And nothing has changed in how news rooms decide to cover presidential races, because the same goons, who were in charge 4 years ago, are still in charge.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@TS (the original): PBS American Experience premiered a documentary on Joe McCarthy this week. The historians presented it as an obvious allegory to Dump.
At the end, Pulitzer Prize historian Sam Tanenhaus indicted the corporate media: “McCarthy brought out the complicity in American journalists, that we like the troublemaker and the rabble-rouser and the theatrical, spectacular figure who says the thing you’re not supposed to say, who breaks the rules, who disregards the facts. That makes for really good copy. And that’s what happened, that’s what kept McCarthy going for a long time until it all fell apart, and then he was just discarded.”
In painting plain parallels and in exposing inconvenient truths, he charges today’s media with their own complicity in creating the monster.
daveNYC
Given how much fun 2020 has been so far, I don’t think it’s smart for RBG to tempt fate like that. Just keep her head down and hope that this year’s showrunners don’t even remember she’s around.
satby
@raven: Not familiar with it, I have to look that up. Thanks.
Soprano2
@gene108: This a thousand times. I’ve believed for a long time that the press wanted Trump to get elected because most of them hated Hillary so much, and the thought of covering her as president filled them with horror and dread. Also, they thought it was a lot of fun to cover Trump, and really believed that crap about how he would grow into the presidency. The way they suck up to his worshippers while mostly ignoring the “Blue Wave” voters after 2018 reinforces my belief.
OzarkHillbilly
My journey into the dark, hypnotic world of a millennial guru
Many years ago I had all my feelings surgically removed (the quack missed one, I ain’t telling you guys where it is cause you’ll all start poking at it) I should’ve had her remove my conscience at the same time.
Shalimar
@Baud: Only the one issue where they were critical of Clinton? And it was press conferences? Someone in the press should write an e-mail about that.
Msb
I’d like to grow up to be like any of these women.
rikyrah
Adam Serwer? (@AdamSerwer) Tweeted:
US “nationalists” seem to not understand that other countries also have nationalisms and hardliners who use external threats to marginalize their critics and consolidate power. They don’t get it because pride makes them lie to themselves about why their opposition exists. https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/1214673428210434056?s=20
rikyrah
Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) Tweeted:
As Predicted: Trump just wants an agreement that undoes what Obama did. His racism knows no bounds. https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/status/1214949497937240069?s=20
Baud
Now the speculation is that Iran might have shot down their own plane accidentally. Yikes!
Baud
@rikyrah:
That’s wrong. Our “nationalists” know and want to trigger and empower other countries’ right wing nationalists.
rikyrah
Teena Marie
Bobby Caldwell
Average White Band( I didn’t know what AWB stood for ?)
And, when Holiday first came out-Madonna
Baud
Pence was on Today show today and Bernie is on tomorrow. Not a good way to end the week.
OzarkHillbilly
ETA:
Betty Cracker
@rikyrah: I was this many years old when I found out Bobby Caldwell is a white dude.
Alien Radio
Someone from the press corp ask questions about Latveria and The trump administration’s position on Vladimir’s relationship to it’s ruler, and whether the secretary of state had expects that to Improve the situation in Trans-Carpathia, or whether he thinks de-escalating With Iran now would prevent Rohan Riding in support?
Amir Khalid
@OzarkHillbilly:
I’m reminded of Dr. Sócrates, the Brazilian sporting legend, author, and activist who qualified as a physician while playing for top Brazilian football club Corinthians.
artem1s
@gene108:
could be argued the media were the only ones taking him seriously. But it’s probably more realistic to say they took him seriously as far as ad revenue was concerned. No one wanted JEB on their air – he was probably an angel of death when it came to viewer hits. The polls reflected what people saw in the media. Sorry, but Rachel Maddow should have never given Trump or Wilmer so much free airtime. And these debates have been a disaster. The media is only concerned about how entertaining the whole thing is, not whether any candidate is qualified or electable. In a sane world, Harris would be at the top of the interview list, but the media are all “yawn, AA candidate, been there, done that – yuck wimmenz! – where are the yelling white menz?”
gene108
@Soprano2:
Hell with 2018.
It’s the way they disregarded Hillary voters after 2016.
There 3 million more of us, than Trump voters, but it’s like we didn’t exist. Democrats, for the second time in 16 years, won the popular vote, but lost the EC, by the thinnest of margins.
Christ on a cracker, they just ignored us for the various Cletus safaris.
Ken
@TS (the original): It’s normalization. We saw that with the coverage of yesterday’s announcement, where the MSM ignored the 20 minute delay, the slurring, the appearance, etc.
One of my impossible fantasies is for the next Democratic president to mimic that behavior, then call out the press when they start Seriously Asking “Is the President impaired”.
OzarkHillbilly
@Amir Khalid: Heh:
raven
@rikyrah: Eliot Lewis of the Live from Daryl’s House was in AWB. I never thought of Hall and Oates as a “soul band” until I started watching that show. Check em out with Smokey doing Sara Smiles/OOO Baby Baby.
Immanentize
@rikyrah:
@Betty Cracker: Last year, I had that same experience with George Ezra. I heard his song “Shotgun” on WERS many times and understood he was black. Then I pulled up the song on youtube….
Shotgun is a really great summer jam
OzarkHillbilly
@Ken: Why wait? Do it as a candidate.
OzarkHillbilly
So Dence’s Iran speech on Monday has been postponed? I wonder what happened.
Immanentize
@raven: Never saw that before. Sweet. Smokie’s voice was so fine.
germy
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: My theory is that they were putting Pence out so Trump wouldn’t have to do it. But because Trump was forced to make his barstool drool yesterday, they are cancelling it because all that could happen would be that Pence would somehow contradict Trump.
Why do I keep thinking of Woody Allen’s “Sleeper?” “Save the nose!”
germy
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: Trump will instead announce Pence has been fired, and Ivanka and Jared will be sharing the post of vice-president.
Baud
@germy:
Good thing for Fox that their people didn’t go to journalism school.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: What an awful tragedy. It did seem unlikely that the timing was just a coincidence.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: I didn’t watch trump’s, I never do, but from what I’ve read most are like “He’s getting worse.” and thought maybe they didn’t want anybody in control of all their faculties* (limited tho they are) following so soon after.
FTR: Now that I think about it, I’m not sure I have ever actually heard Dence speak.
OzarkHillbilly
@Ken: oooff, yeah, he’d do that.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
He doesn’t speak. He speaks directly to your soul with his steely gaze.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@OzarkHillbilly:
Also Trump hates sharing the spotlight. I can picture him saying, “I already took care of it with that dumb speech you made me give. Tell Mike to sit down.”
Ken
In American Gods, there was a god of finance with the power that no one could remember his appearance. You could look at him for a ten minute conversation, but the second you turned away you would forget his face.
Pence may have a related ability, possibly as the god of whitebread boredom.
chopper
@rikyrah:
rick astley, of course
OzarkHillbilly
hueyplong
@rikyrah: Tony Joe White, doing Poke Salad Annie.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: “Harry Potter World.” snerk.
Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray
@Baud: It wasn’t “their own” plane. It was Ukraine’s.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray:
Thanks. For some reason, I thought it was Iranian Airlines or whatever they call their national airline.
Immanentize
@Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray: I like the expanded nym.
Immanentize
@Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray: So what is the scuttlebutt in Ukraine about the disaster?
OzarkHillbilly
WASF.
Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray
@Immanentize: Mistermix bestowed the title in a thread about British royalty yesterday.
Slavs love conspiracy theories. Some are saying they saw Russian missile fragments in some of the crash site photos (Iran uses Russian equipment). I’m traveling right now, so a bit harder to follow this than usual.
OzarkHillbilly
Via Soonergrunt:
CarolPW
@rikyrah:
Tony Joe White.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: My great uncle who was just a few years older than my Dad was captured at the Bulge and sent to Stalag IXb. It was hell for Bits and Americans. Death for Russians and others. The story of the exportation of G.I.s to a slave camp in the East is one I am still tracking down…. My Uncle may have been among those who looked Jewish or had Jewish sounding names. He drank himself dead, so I can’t ask him.
raven
@Immanentize: I was at a funeral in Chicago last week an got to talking to an old friend. He told me the story of his dad, Nathan Glasdstein 66th Armored Regiment, 2d Armored Division at the Battle of the Bulge. His tank was stuck and the crew was going to surrender and he said “Fuck you, I’m Jewish and I’m not surrendering to anyone”. He jumped on the turret, turned the main gun and knocked out two Panzers!