I’m trying to ignore the House debate as much as possible while my husband watches it. Tough ask in this open floor plan. My productivity is taking a hit, but I did get to hear a very droll rejoinder by Rep. Nadler.
Weasel-faced GOP Rep. Stewart of Utah was imploring his Democratic colleagues not to impeach Trump on what Stewart regards as flimsy grounds (bullshit!), intoning repeatedly something like this: “If you impeach President Trump for this, I guarantee you the next president will be impeached. I guarantee it. What goes around comes around, blah blah blah.”
When Weasel Face finally shut up and sat down, Nadler said, “I’d like to remind the distinguished gentleman from Utah that if President Trump is impeached, the next president will be Mike Pence.”
Well played, Nadler. Well played.
Open thread!
Raven
If I wasn’t sick this shit would be wearing me out. . .
germy
That was their plan for President Hillary, as we all know.
And definitely, the next Democratic president will face a ton of shit from them. This is why we need to vote as many of them out as possible.
The Dangerman
From a member of the party that brought you “Benghazi” and “born in Kenya”…
Fuck him.
MattF
As if there was any doubt that Hillary would have been impeached if she had been elected. And every single Republican in the House and Senate would be lecturing us on the duties imposed by the Constitution. I should note, at least in passing, that Trump has actually committed impeachable offenses.
rikyrah
The Democrats are doing the right thing. period.
Soprano2
It’s like it went down the memory hole that Republicans were openly talking about impeaching Hillary before the election!
Shakti
“
“If you impeach President Trump for this, I guarantee you the next president will be impeached. I guarantee it. What goes around comes around, blah blah blah.”
So what are the odds that Mike Pence will go down harder than Spiro Agnew?
Is Pence smart enough not to commit high crimes and misdemeanors? (He doesn’t have to be that smart.
My concern is not only the obvious crimes Trump committed but the massive packing of the federal courts which has already happened and that will keep on giving for the rest of my natural life.
trollhattan
Oh dayumn, alert the burn unit of an incoming patient.
Yarrow
That’s not true. Trump has to be impeached AND convicted by the Senate for Pence to be the next President. Senate won’t vote to convict so Trump won’t go anywhere and Pence won’t be the next president.
trollhattan
@Yarrow:
The framing error was Stewart’s. Nadler was throwing his words back in his face.
Leto
@germy: It’s not like Jason Chaffits (sp) didn’t explicitly say that, while continuing the Benghazi hearings.
germy
@Leto: HIs biggest disappointment was when Hillary wasn’t elected.
Betty Cracker
@trollhattan: @Yarrow: Could be Nadler said “impeached and removed” — I’m paraphrasing from memory a verbal exchange I’m trying not to hear!
mrmoshpotato
@trollhattan: Haha, it was a great response. It only could be better if Nadler replied, “Ok! We’ll impeach Pence too! He knew about Ukraine!”
TriassicSands
Small, but important point: Impeachment is not removal from office.
What Representative Weasel meant was “The next Democrat [sic] president will be impeached.”
What Representative Nadler meant was: “In the event that a handful of Republican Senators actually uphold their oath to be fair and impartial jurors in the trial of Donald Trump and accordingly find him guilty of the impeachment charges and further vote to remove him from office, the next president will be VP Pence. Additionally, should Donald Trump be allowed to continue in office and, thus, continue to cheat in the presidential election of 2020, then, he, Donald Trump will be the next president. Oh, and Representative Stewart from Utah is a complete idiot.”
Sigh. The obvious can not be stated.
oatler.
Getting tired of hearing confederate cretins on the floor.
Leto
@germy:It’s like Santa personally kicked him the nuts. Kicked him hard enough to send him to the Fox couch.
SFAW
@Shakti:
At TPM, there was an item that Adam Schiff hinted that Pence may have lied to Congress or investigators (I don’t recall which, and it’s moved off the front page).
FSM does not love me/us that much.
germy
“The way things are goin’, they gonna crucify meeee”
Mary G
One of the yahii goes there – Jesus Christ got a fairer trial from Pontius Pilate than our president is getting now.
Somebody on Twitter said that a group of Republican reps cheered when Nadler pointed out that Pence would be president if Twitler is removed. I hope there is tape where you can see faces, because the infant in chief will go after them in a butthurt rage for the disloyalty, the highest crime and misdemeanor ever in his book.
hells littlest angel
“If you impeach President Trump for this, I guarantee you the next president will be impeached.”
Also if you don’t impeach him.
zhena gogolia
@Yarrow:
Nadler said “impeached and removed”
Zinsky
I had to turn off the hideous proceedings after that truck stop trash woman from Arizona talked about how much she loved Trump, regardless of what the “Democrat Party” [sic] thinks of him. I got that little taste of puke in the back of my throat when I heard that!
BC in Illinois
I didn’t catch his name, but a Republican Rep just said:
I assume that this means that we should just have Donald Trump flogged and then let him go.
germy
Brachiator
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Love it.
Yarrow
@Betty Cracker: LOL. I hear ya. I’m not watching. It’s nothing but pontificating and the best bits will be clips later. I’ll watch the vote.
germy
@BC in Illinois:
Rep. Loudermilk
Roger Moore
@Shakti:
No. As far as we can tell, he’s been involved in the stuff they’re impeaching Trump for. This is not something Trump was doing with a few of his closest confidants while carefully hiding it from everyone outside the group; this was something the whole administration knew about any many were actively involved in.
dmsilev
@germy: Shouldn’t they be complaining to Mitch McConnell then?
danielx
@germy:
It’s why Chaffetzquit – he was so looking forward to four glorious years of BENGHAZI!-style hearings and the letdown was just too much for him.
hells littlest angel
The spanking with a rolled-up magazine that Stormy Daniels gave Trump was worse than the scourging of Jesus!
dmsilev
@BC in Illinois: Donald Trump, or Stephen Miller more likely, complained in that letter that the Salem Witch Trial had more due process than what he’s getting.
He really is a pathetic whiner, isn’t he?
hells littlest angel
The wine that Jesus made at Cana was not nearly as good as Trump Vodka!
Warblewarble
Was not Pilate the one who washed his hands,just like tRUMPthuglicans.
Mary G
Nadler’s doing a good job of taking little jabs at Republicans like the Pence thing. Collins has tried to follow suit and failed.
hells littlest angel
The hamburgers Trump served the Clemson Tigers were tastier than the Last Supper!
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: Oh for the sake of fucks. What a fucking farce.
Leto
@germy: @BC in Illinois:
They really are going all in on the Christ metaphors, aren’t they?
Gin & Tonic
Boy, I sure could use some fresh peaches this time of year.
Oh, wait…
germy
JoeyJoeJoe
@BC in Illinois: Barry Loudermilk. He comes from what is more or less Bob Barr’s old district.
Also, a view from the Capitol: I was at the Longworth gift shop, and I saw Adam Schiff. I thanked him for his work, as did others. One two person film crew harassed him and accused him of treason, and were ejected
Jay
piratedan
and after Pilate allowed Jesus to face his accusers, IIRC they put his ass on a cross and allowed him to die. I am perfectly willing to allow said same for DJT and we can wait three days for his resurrection.
randy khan
I take back anything mean I said about Nadler as chair of the Judiciary Committee.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Mary G: Yeah. When they wept about how much money the Mueller investigation cost the country, Nadler pointed out that the dirty money Mueller recovered more than paid for things.
germy
Maybe Mel Gibson can direct a movie about this impeachment. It can be in Aramaic, with subtitles.
Jay
@Warblewarble:
Pilate offered the Rabbis other punishments, holding up other criminals as examples, but the Rabbis could not be argued, reasoned or dissuaded from killing Jesus,
So, “forced” to render the verdict by the prevailing laws, customs and local politics, Pilate rendered the verdict that the Rabbis demanded, then symbolically washed his hands to show that “none of it, was his doing”.
Original Lee
Open thread, so more on my grandmother. Her appeal of her discharge was denied. They are asking for a reconsideration. The person at Medicare the case worker is talking to on the phone literally just said it doesn’t matter that Grammy lives alone and all her family lives out of state. The fucking policy manual says that “as a practical matter,” it does. This fucking administration has made it allowable for folks to ignore the rules. Trump’s gotta go.
Fortunately, Grammy has enough in savings to pay for a few weeks of private care. We’re hoping her wrist will be cleared to be weight-bearing before the money runs out.
mrmoshpotato
@Roger Moore: “Where’re you all doing in there?”
“Definitely not committing every crime on the books! ?A criming we will go, a criming we will go,?”
“We can hear you!”
randy khan
I know many people here feel about the NY Times, but I thought the news story on the Trump letter was really something.
Here’s the headline:
And here are some excerpts:
Jay
dmsilev
@Jay: Damn, she really plays the long game, doesn’t she?
Mary G
Now they’re plagarizing FDR – “December 18, 2019 is another date that will live in infamy!”
trollhattan
@hells littlest angel:
“Hummus dip and vegetable tray, again?!? What do you think this is, some office ‘Holiday Party’ in the second-biggest conference room? Jesus Christ–wait, that’s me–what kind of ‘disciples’ can’t remember what I like to eat? You’d think you guys don’t know how to take notes. What, you think somebody’s writing all this down a hundred years from now?”
Mary G
O/T This is appalling and would injure a lot of disabled people:
ola azul
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
While he’s at it, Nadler mighta observed that during the Great Clinton Penis Hunt and Impeachment Extravaganza of ’98, the Republicans was all in high motherfucking dudgeon over a report from a fatuous, treacly, Uriah-fucking-Heap oh-so-UMble attention-whore named Ken Starr that cost the country a mere $44 million and that yielded precisely *one* tangible (political) benefit of presidential wrongdoing: Pres. Bill Clinton was reckless and stupid enough to lie inna perjury trap about a consensual blowjob that affected precisely fuck-all nothing in the country’s affairs.
Apparently none of these motherfuckers owns a mirror or is familiar with the concept of accusatory projection.
Mary G
Susan Collins announces she’s running for another term, and she must be defeated.
Captain C
@Mary G: Setting aside legal and ethical issues, if they’re serious, they should install these in C Suite bathrooms first.
TriassicSands
If Republicans had a shred of intelligence, they’d vote to remove Trump and move on with the equally undemocratic Mike Pence, whose SCOTUS nominations would be every bit as supportive of the Republican agenda as Trump’s and who would work tirelessly to turn this country into a right wing theocracy for the rich. They would no longer have to deal with Trump’s poisonous narcissism, idiotic Tweets, and embarrassingly mindless behavior. The only “losers” would be those white supremacists who would lose their most prominent loud-mouthed public advocate for blatant racism. But actual Republican racism would be unaffected and undiminished. On the plus side, they would gain a plausible religious zealot to fight the never ending “War on Christmas” and their tireless efforts to attack same sex marriage and members of the LGBTQ community. The SCOTUS
majority is already poised to end constitutionally protected abortion and finally take control of women’s bodies away from women and give that control to men, where the Bible intended it to be.
The benefits go on and on.
ola azul
@piratedan:
A faith-based initiative!
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: Also, sometimes you need more than 5 minutes due to…ummm… gastrointestinal distress.
Time to take a dump on the people who came up with this.
Redshift
I haven’t seen much, but as I passed by a TV at work, I got to hear a wingnut congressman from Missouri declare that the impeachment was illegal. WTF?
Betty Cracker
@Mary G: The only upside to Collins standing for reelection is that she might vote to remove Trump to maintain the fiction that she’s an independent voice. Does anyone know when the Maine GOP primary filing deadline is?
TriassicSands
@Mary G:
But Collins can talk as fast and shout almost as loudly as Jim Jordan. Those are important GOP values — remember, the truth spoken slowly and quietly will always yield to lies shouted at breakneck speed.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@mrmoshpotato: The liability suits for these with be numerous.
Gin & Tonic
@Mary G: Can this be far behind?
John Revolta
@TriassicSands: They’re stuck with the monster they created. Any GOPer who votes against Trumpf will be primaried eight ways to Sunday and have to go back to working for a living.
Duane
@Leto: As usual rethugs take something from the Bible, twist and pervert it and think that’s oh so smart. Does this mean crucification is an option?
JFC indeed.
mrmoshpotato
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Yup. As Mary G mentioned about people with disabilities.
And if these are installed, at least one moron will ok installation in a handicapped-accessible stall.
zhena gogolia
Pressley was great — clear, calm, and full of conviction.
Mary G
Good:
germy
I think people like Susan Collins can’t imagine any other way of living. I believe she’d become profoundly depressed if she had to leave her “job” in government.
Martin
@Mary G: Woo! Katie will be great. Other Katie would also have been great – what happened to her was bullshit.
Jay
@Mary G:
Daily Maul click bait goes viral,
Reality of the design;
and to sum up:
Mahabir Gill is the patent holder of an as yet, unmanufactured, un sold toilet design.
mrmoshpotato
@Duane: And then can we throw his crucified body into the ocean? To satisfy the Russthuglicans’ screaming about their Orange Jesus and the Salem witch trials, of course. He’ll be walking on water in 3 days, right, Russthuglicans?
ola azul
@Betty Cracker:
Am of the decided opinion that the genuine appeal of Susan “I’mMotherfuckingTROUBLED,youassholes!” Collins running again is the immense satisfaction (hopefully) of seeing her and everyone like her (not dumb, just liars n cowards) not just defeated but irrefutably repudiated.
Regret to report that, on certain issues, the Bush years (n then the Obama interregnum n now the Trump years) is made me small.
WaterGirl
@Jay: They never taught us that part in catholic school. Is that for real?
edit: to be clear, we learned about the washing his hands part, but not about the being forced to do it part.
Yarrow
Interesting observation. Reminds me of the discussion on a thread a few days ago about how a southern accent on characters in a movie made people recoil.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@mrmoshpotato: I’m just saying being sloped downward it’d be pretty easy to slip off for anybody. I foresee lots of product liability suits in the manufacture’s future(as well as litigation for the companies that decide to have them installed).
Jeffro
@Shakti: My concern is not only the obvious crimes Trump committed but the massive packing of the federal courts which has already happened and that will keep on giving for the rest of my natural life.
You too?
I think Dems at all levels should be prepared to say, “The judges that were nominated and voted on by the GOP are the result of them winning their elections, and elections have consequences. However, the country should not have to endure decades of partisan rulings from lifetime appointees who had never tried a case and/or were rated ‘not qualified’; Republicans would feel the same if a Democratic president and Senate had done this; and so I approve the review and potential impeachment of the “McConnell 11*” who should never have been approved for the federal bench in the first place.”
*or whatever the number is
Lay down a marker, Dems. Let them know that we will indeed be coming for these unqualified, partisan hacks.
Quicksand
@Mary G:
Special thanks to Speaker Pelosi for observing the Law of Conservation of Katies.
mrmoshpotato
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Ah. Didn’t occur to me that your bare butt could have an unintended meeting with the floor too.
Ella in New Mexico
We’re driving the three hours home from Albuquerque and my husband is at around 89% on muting Sirius XM at the exact time the mic gets handed back to the R’s lolol
Roger Moore
@TriassicSands:
You’re missing another, much more important group: supporters of corruption, i.e. the Republicans’ financial base. One of Trump’s biggest breaks with the past is his embrace of open, blatant corruption. I think this was the biggest thing that worried traditional Republicans about him. For a long time, they’ve been corrupt, but they’ve tried to keep the corruption quiet because they’ve been afraid of getting caught. Trump was blatant about it. But if Trump succeeds with blatant corruption, that’s a huge win for all the other people who would love to be able to parade their corruption rather than hide it. Protecting Trump and letting him get away with his misdeeds is thus a major Republican priority.
sdhays
@germy: The (Bill) Clinton impeachment was payback for Nixon and Iran-Contra with the Democrats having the audacity to suggest that Republican Presidents shouldn’t subvert the Constitution. and the rule of law. It drove them insane that they couldn’t even find a flimsy pretext to impeach Obama over.
Jay
@WaterGirl:
it’s as real as anything in the Bible.
how the story is told and emphasized by the varous sects, depends on their views on capital A Authority and Capital E Elites.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+15&version=NLT
Kay
So far it’s Bernie, Biden and Klobachur who I have seen recruiting delegates in Ohio. I don’t know what that means. Nothing, probably.
Mary G
The stupid, it burns.
Congratulations to the Deep State unelected radical bureaucrat who put it on in the first place.
Baud
@Jay:
Oh, c’mon.
Pilate. Didn’t. Even. Try.
Another Scott
@WaterGirl: Careful – one can’t really take any of these stories at face value. Lots of people involved in writing and editing the story had their own agendas.
History.com:
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Baud
@Kay:
Surprised that Warren isn’t there. I thought she ran a tight ship.
trollhattan
@Jay:
Besides, has anybody ever worked for an employer that is not objectively too cheap to go in and replace all their terlets–terlets that currently work? That’s flushing away money, maaaaan!
tomtofa
@WaterGirl: Yep. The groundwork for anti-Semitism started early.
Immanentize
@WaterGirl:
No, it is not true. The local religious folks, who wanted to get rid of the occupy Jerusalem guy, Jesus, had no power to exact capital (or even severe corporal) punishments. This is pretty obvious once you think about it. The state was Rome, not the Sanhedrin. And Rome allowed local magistrates, but reserved a monopoly on state violence. So, the Jewish hootie-hoos had to get Pilate to kill Jesus. They had no power to do so.
Now a very interesting take on this is in a version of Josephus which was found in the Caucasus Mountain region (IIRC) which had the forty pieces of silver flowing not to Judas for his betrayal, but to Pilate for the execution. Considering the punishment and political structures of the time — that sounds more likely to me.
Jay
@Another Scott:
And outside of the Gospels, only two chunks of archeology exist to prove that somebody named Pilate, was a Roman Official of some sort, at some place, ( Italy and Israel) at some time. A tribute stone to the Emperor and Empress of Rome in Israel, of the time, and a reused stone used as a stair step in Rome, with the stone flipped to not show his name.
The Historical record, ( Roman and regional historical documents and writings of the time and after) contains no record of Pilate. Even in regards to Jewish Rebellions or even the tax records of Galilee. He only shows up in mid Christian era writings.
Scout211
testing a commenting issue (for Watergirl)
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: Ugh. I won’t even put a purse down on a bathroom floor. Besides the risk of injury, I wouldn’t want my bare butt on a public floor.
ola azul
@Jay:
Yes, but he’s gotta exercise regimen named after him, so notoriety if not immortality is assured.
Another Scott
A nice counterpoint to the Teabagger’s favorite map of the US, showing all the red land in areas that voted for Donnie.
Caption – States with lower populations than Los Angeles County.
Hehe.
(via Evan Hurst’s live blog at Wonkette).
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: What did you find? :-)
Jay
FYI, all of the Crowdfunded “let’s buy discounted debt at auction only instead of siccing Debt Collectors on them 24/7/365 to squeeze out profts, let’s just tear it up, shred it, burn it and make the debt disappear” movements saving peoples lives, houses, cars, health and getting them out of jail,
came out of Occupy.
Immanentize
@Jay:
Christ on holiday shortbread, man! How many historic references, outside the Bible, are there for Jesus. See, never existed?
More to the point, how many historic references about you will exist in 2000 years?
CaseyL
@Jay: AFAIK, there is no contemporary independent record confirming the existence of Jesus.
Baud
@Immanentize: Depends on the state of Balloon Juice’s servers.
Another Scott
@Baud: Oh No! We’re all DOOOMMMMEEEEDDDD!!!11
Cheers,
Scott.
Kay
@Baud:
I know! I’m both concerned and disappointed :)
One of the younger Bernie people said last night “there’s already a delegate candidate from here”
It’s a competition! Jesus. They don’t get that? I should have said “it’s not a coronation” – I always think of Bernie comebacks 12 hours late.
Jay
@ola azul:
and it’s not an overpriced, trendy, wifi, bluetooth, internet of things enabled exercise bike with 2!!!! 2 Count Em!!!!! Cupholders, ( but no fan), so Pilates should last as long or longer than Foxy Boxing or Naked Yoga.
Ruckus
@Soprano2:
It all goes down/up some hole with republicans.
Duane
@mrmoshpotato: It’s laughable but the nuts compare him to Jesus and I expect to see that increase as the hearings continue. Some one should tell them that’s blasphemy but oh well.
Yutsano
So the Wonkette feed is frozen. Are they on recess? At work so can’t watch.
Jay
@Immanentize:
95 issues of Columbia Magazine, a couple of research papers, a dozen or so newspaper records, CSWA, SCCA, WCMR, WCB, Medicare, SS, IRS, CRA, ICBC, MRB, FSBC, FFSBC and other records out the wazoo.
Scout211
@WaterGirl:
I just sent you an email with screen shots. I saw no V/T issues using safari. With chrome, the V/T issues (mac mojave) are consistent whether I click the reply to or use the comment box or if I refresh. After I post a comment, the V and T are now present. Just one more thing to add to the email–I left the blog to send the email and came back to this same thread and now I am typing my reply in a comment box only showing Text mode
Edit: And now after posting this comment, the Visual and Text mode are both showing.
jimmiraybob
Well, I see that JesusTrump has finally been openly declared by the cult. I can hardly wait for the painting to go on sale at the JesusTrump 2020 website. I wonder if Mammon Princess and Court Evangelical Paula While felt any tingling.
“Make Heaven Great Again” – 2020
(disclaimer: my crude comments are just like putting martyrs in the arena to be torn apart and eaten by wild beasts.)
Another Scott
@Yutsano: TheHill has a live feed (from CBS) that is still working – it shows Schiff talking now.
Maybe Evan’s taking a brief break.
Cheers,
Scott.
ola azul
So went to impeachment rally in my burg in Michigan last night. Was a reasonable turnout for a fairly small city (Traverse City); I’d guess a 125-140, tho others disagreed n thought twere higher (200 or so). Dunno. But was a comfort to be surrounded by peeps who hadn’t lost their minds inna absurd fever dream.
Disappointing part: I ain’t no spring chicken (early fifties), but I’s among the youngest there. So on the one hand, twere nice to see the older cohort coming out and representing, but gotta admit was some crestfallen to see a dearth of young folk.
We all hollered in the dark on the steps of the courthouse (mayor showed n made a short address; good onnem), then we waddled our way like penguins in winter coats n hats n signs n lights over to a brew pub that I had visited just the night previous (storytelling night, some like format a Moth Radio Hour; was choice).
Met a couple who was innerested (for whatever reason) in my particular line a shit n we talked w/great fervor till deep into the night. Good peeps.
randy khan
@Baud:
Warren recruited her delegates six months ago. (No, I don’t know this, but you wouldn’t be surprised, would you?)
Jay
@Ruckus
Fixed
Ruckus
@dmsilev:
They don’t want the senate to have to be involved. Because then the lack of impeachment would be on Democrats in the house and to their tiny minds that would mean the entire thing had been a political sham.
Yutsano
@Another Scott: I can’t blame him. He’s really doing yeoman’s work here. And TBH I’m glad I can’t listen.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
FYI, in case you’re unaware of it, recurrence of 524 error around 2 a.m. blog time today.
zhena gogolia
Whenever a Dem from the South is recognized, you know before you see them that they’ll be African-American. Sad.
Baud
@randy khan: That makes more sense. Thanks.
Jay
@ola azul:
any youngs left in Traverse City?
Yutsano
@Jay: You beat me to my question. :P
oatler.
@Another Scott: ”
I cannot call him to mind.”
Anatole France, The Prolocuter of Judea
sdhays
@TriassicSands:
I don’t think so. If they remove Dump, Dump’s supporters will be extremely upset with them, and there will be consequences for that.
Also, they’re at the point in their corruption jenga that one more block getting removed will bring the whole edifice down. In the abstract, Mike Dense himself wouldn’t be a problem for them, but Dump’s removal would open the floodgates since it would be a powerful signal that the system still works and not being corrupt is still valued. People who had been hesitant up to now would be emboldened.
They are terrified of letting that genie out of the bottle.
On top of that, how much do you want to bet that if they actually remove Dump, Russia decides to release the RNC emails they hacked?
Mart
@Betty Cracker: Cannot bear to watch the proceedings. More important, last Friday I made the pistachio / cranberry biscotti recipe you recommended and they came out perfect. Main issue is there were only 32 cookies and the family wants more. Never made biscotti before and at first did not think the two cups of pistachio and dried cranberries would fit in the small amount of dough.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: Thank you! I sent you a reply, summarizing (in my own words) what I think you found, before I send the information to the developers.
If I understood you correctly, that should go a long way toward pointing them in the direction of a solution. So thanks again.
Betty Cracker
@Mart: I’m so glad they turned out well! I need to make some more already.
ola azul
@Jay:
More millionaires, so I hears, per capita, in Tragic City than anywheres else. Not vouching for that, but one does get sense that there’sa lotta munnies sloshing around. ‘Member when I’s a kid, saying was: “View of the bay, half the pay.” Also, too: we hadda metric fuck-ton of bang-on educators at NMC (community college herebouts) cuz smart talented peeps wanted to live somewheres purty w/quality of life concerns (ahem) trumping small-minded pecuniary obsessions.
So ya, still younglings. N, like Sitka, the grasping obsessions of the touristical exploitators still (ahem) trumps the concerns of, you know, actual fucking citizens.
It’sa still a purty nice place, in spite of those maniacally driven to destroy it by loving it to death.
Another Scott
Evan Hurst’s live blog at Wonkette is back.
Cheers,
Scott.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
I’ve seen some mens rooms floors that I don’t even want my shoes to touch. Let alone any flesh.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: I just sent you a followup message asking you to please try another test, with a couple of additions.
Your testing might just provide the info needed for them to track this down.
Jay
@zhena gogolia: it’s actually great for the Democratic Party, bad for the ReThugs.
Scout211
test, test
opiejeanne
@BC in Illinois:
GIVE US BARRABAS!!!
Gin & Tonic
@Ruckus: So you’ve been to CBGB, then.
J R in WV
@Original Lee:
Also, once your Grammy has depleted her savings, she will probably qualify for Medicaid support when she needs rehab or nursing care in a facility.
I’m not sure about home health care, which would be much cheaper than in-house care, but the gov’t doesn’t seem to work that way much.
WaterGirl: Note that today I have stopped seeing the WYSIWYG tab 50% of the time or more and just get the HTML based Text tab. Plus comments sometimes disappear…
Chris Johnson
@sdhays:
I don’t think Russia wants Trump to remain President.
The guy’s an asshole and Pence would be a much more useful puppet, or Paul Ryan, or whatever other traitor R they’ve got in their pocket. Trump is a liability to Russia, not just to us. He’s only good as a wrecking ball and has not extracted all the concessions for Russia that he could have, were he competent.
I think one possible outcome is this: the Republicans continue to play to the deplorables with their Jesus analogies, but that’s because Trump is due to play the martyr. They’ll have a few key Rs to ‘betray’ him so he gets ‘removed’ and replaced with a better puppet, and then they’ll protect the sacrificial ‘betrayers’ and fire up a literal civil war, and see to it that whatever right wing nutjobs they control are driven totally berserk.
I’m convinced some of these guys are playing Putin’s game, and Trump is not: he’s a narcissist and a dumpster fire and only wants to protect himself. Russia can do more damage to the US by taking him out in a staged impeachment that leaves some other Russian stooge still in charge, but sets up a martyr narrative. Maybe they’ll even Epstein him: give him a ‘suicide’, or actively whack him pretending to be Hillary Clinton’s hit squad or some shit like that.
It’s really important to know that none of these people are truly loyal to Trump. And he knows it. There is no retirement plan for being the Putin puppet, not if you’re more useful as a martyr.
Ridnik Chrome
@Gin & Tonic: The bathroom that set the standard for East Village bathrooms.
opiejeanne
@Jay: This is silly. To create that tilt you just have to redesign a toilet seat. No need to replace the whole toilet.
J R in WV
@Immanentize:
Plenty! We’re all on Balloon Juice, right? Immortality guaranteed!
Immanentize
@J R in WV: Dust in the wind, my friend. Or more accurately, dust in the cloud.
WaterGirl
@J R in WV:
Noted. Yes, the test/visual thing is not good today. Comments disappearing? That, I wasn’t aware of. Always send me email right away if that happens so I can check on it. thanks
Roger Moore
@Jay:
As a counterpoint, there is also almost no archaeological evidence for the existence of Alexander the Great. There are no surviving contemporaneous biographies, and there are only a handful of inscriptions that mention him. Almost everything we know about him is from secondary sources written centuries after he lived. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t believe he existed; it just shows how fragmentary the record is back then.
J R in WV
@Roger Moore:
Hell, the record is fragmented and ambiguous from WW II, just 80 years ago from today. Let alone Jesus or Pilates…
Ruckus
@Gin & Tonic:
Actually, no I haven’t.
But I have worked an event that hired the Hell’s Angels for security.
Fun Times!
Ruckus
@opiejeanne:
Just remove the rubber bumpers between the seat and the bowl. Believe me, that does the trick.
Bill Arnold
@jimmiraybob
D.J. Trump is the opposite of Christ Jesus in most if not all aspects of his being.
Rep. Loudermilk is being theologically (big uhm) provocative, here.
Original Lee
@J R in WV: I think she has to do more than spend down her savings to qualify for Medicaid. She has other assets and she’s a widow.