If a defendant goes to trial on charges of attempted murder — caught in the act with multiple witnesses and a confession — he doesn’t get a pass on the crime by making the case that the victim *really* deserved to die.
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) November 14, 2019
Paul’s hometown paper, the Courier-Journal:
U.S. Sen. Rand Paul said Thursday he may try to force a Senate vote on motions that would allow President Donald Trump to call on Hunter Biden and other witnesses to testify in an impeachment trial…
“I believe very strongly the president should be able to call his own witnesses,” Paul told reporters on Thursday, according to Politico. “The rules that are put forward will be amendable, so yes I will consider strongly that the president should get his full due process, which to me means bringing in his own witnesses.”Last week, Paul blocked a Democrat-led resolution that reasserted the Senate’s support for protecting whistleblowers.
And after calling for the media to release the alleged whistleblower’s name, Paul went ahead and said the name of the suspected anonymous whistleblower during a radio interview Wednesday…
When asked Thursday for a comment on Paul’s decision to name the alleged whistleblower, Paul’s communications team referred The Courier Journal to another interview the senator did Wednesday with One America News Network.
In that interview, Paul said the alleged whistleblower’s name once again but claimed that he hasn’t specifically said that the person is, in fact, the whistleblower.
Regardless, he said he thinks this individual should be brought in as a “material witness.”
Gonna need Rand Paul's other neighbor to weigh in on whether he deserved that a** kicking
— Cowboys4Angels Employee of the Month (@Fakefancylawyer) November 14, 2019
germy
Baud
If Trump is allowed to call his own witnesses, the Senate trial will never end. He’ll probably call Hillary and Obama too.
This would all be to our benefit.
Jamie
Christ, what an asshole.
Baud
@Jamie:
That wasn’t directed at me, was it? Hard to tell with the inconsistent reply button.
Mary G
Experimenting with tweets:
ETA: Huzzah!
Frankensteinbeck
@Baud:
You know, he might. He clearly believes Hillary has framed him and I bet he’d love to have her testify under oath what happened to the ‘thirty thousand deleted emails’ because he thinks she can be caught committing perjury.
Jamie
@Baud: Not this time! :)
rikyrah
What a piece of garbage.
Thanks, Kentucky…for nothing
Brachiator
I must have missed that part in the Constitution where it says that the person liable for impeachment gets to direct the process. Would Trump get to vote o his removal as well?
Steeplejack (phone)
@Baud:
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waspuppet
Rand Paul is employing the “See, Mr. Putin? I did everything I could” strategy.
And Kruse’s characterization of Liddle’ Rand’s ploy? That literally is Trump’s defense.
Elizabelle
@Steeplejack (phone): Went back and looked at your clip of Jim Jordan as Boomhauer. Genius.
twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1195007597256028161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Steeplejack (phone)
@Elizabelle:
Inorite. You have to watch the clip to get the full effect.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: I call to the stand the ghost of Roy Cohn! Bring him up from Hell, boys!
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: You think you’re Christ? Messiah complex much?
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: They predicted this and had Twitter back in the 200’s? Wow.
Steeplejack (phone)
Gotta say I’m feeling pretty good this evening. Dropped into my local for a burger and a pint, which, yes, entailed putting on the tactical gear (pants!), and it’s pleasant to linger afterwards here at the bar as the TGIF crowd swells.
Got some semi-major stuff done on the home front this week, also deposited a check for some actual paid work. Yee-haw.
JPL
Invest in Tums because the republicans are buying them by the cartons to distribute. Holmes opening statement was released
wow this is big stuff
mrmoshpotato
@JPL:
And Depends
hells littlest angel
Rand Paul got his law degree from his self-created National Board of Ophthalmology.
JPL
@mrmoshpotato: Depends because they are doubling trump’s order as I type And imagine if they will they have another person who listened to the conversation also
Mary G
Odds on Sondland taking the Fifth next week going up. What a maroon. Kind of poetic justice if Twitler is taken down by someone as stupid and vainglorious as he is.
Mary G
@Mary G:
?????
Seanly
I look forward to very stable genius Trump questioning witnesses. Maybe that will rectify the much-lamented lack of pizazz!
hells littlest angel
Utterly believable, absolutely hilarious.
debbie
@Elizabelle:
If you like that tweet, you’ll love this one:
<blockquote class=”twitter-tweet”><p lang=”en” dir=”ltr”>Nunes the Mad Cow is back at the <a href=”https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImpeachingHearings?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw”>#ImpeachingHearings</a> <a href=”https://t.co/sHFvyy0Hpm”>pic.twitter.com/sHFvyy0Hpm</a></p>— Max Howroute▫️ (@howroute) <a href=”https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1195392744455393281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw”>November 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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ETA: Dammit.
I don’t know why that didn’t embed right. Do a Twitter search for Max Howroute (@howroute). It posted at 12:26pm today.
Chetan Murthy
nm. deleted.
JPL
@Mary G: They certainly hope he will, because they don’t want him to open up and spill the beans.
feebog
Could someone please ask the petite senator from Kentucky exactly what he believes a “material witness” is. Cause it does not seem as if he has a fuvking clue.
Marcopolo
Now for some firsthand commentary on the Ukraine scandal:
debbie
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debbie
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Steeplejack (phone)
@Mary G:
Maybe get one of those fancy phones with, what do they call it, volume control. #OKBoomer
Marcopolo
@debbie: Post in the text tab, not the visual. Just happened to me.
debbie
hells littlest angel
Umm, is that … locker room talk?
debbie
@Marcopolo:
Just got that. Grrr. Thanks!
Marcopolo
@hells littlest angel: Dunno but I threw up in my mouth a little bit when I read it.
Martin
@Marcopolo: I think it’s going to come out that Sondland had Trump on speaker so he could show off.
…in a restaurant with god knows how many FSB agents.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Marcopolo:
Dude, “get rid of the script thing” means not just the closing /script word but also everything up to the opening script word, i.e., the whole script niblet.
scav
File under All too Normal:
Arizona officer caught on video pinning quadruple amputee, 15, to ground
sukabi
@Mary G: also possible Sondlund doesn’t know how to control his phone volume and or had it on speaker.
Marcopolo
Can I get a shout out for Prez Obama, the voice of reason. There are three other texts linked after this so click through, unless they all magically appear. I don’t plan on linking them all.
Always Hopeful
Marcopolo
@Steeplejack (phone): So posting from my phone. I di both my above twitter links the same way, I thought, but they appear differently. Obviously a learning process and I am still on the path. I thought I was doing what you told me to do.
mrmoshpotato
@hells littlest angel:
@Mary G: All I can think is, “See those buttons on the side? They control the speaker volume. They can raise and lower it.”
J R in WV
Rand Paul is so despicable he deserves to have to share a 7 x 11 foot room with Donald Trump for the rest of his short miserable life.
That is all.
debbie
@Steeplejack (phone):
In other words, everything after the “blockquote>” right?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
That’s man talk for “we’re totally NOT gay for each other”
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@waspuppet: What is with all this Libertarian love for Putin? One of my on line Libertarians was gushing over Mr Bear Chested Bear Ridder and she utterly incapable of explaining how Russian Despot = Freedom. Just rambled about how horrible bureaucrats are.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Always Hopeful: Only one Senator has been impeached, it didn’t go well, they’ve not tried again; remember the Senate would be the trial body and they can just expel the Senator.
J R in WV
@scav:
This is typically despicable cop bully behavior. Cops do not have any right to respect when they’re criminal bullies like this. Tucson is by and large a progressive community, but there is a ton of poverty and among those poor people I suspect the cops run rampant.
Also, parents abandoned the 15-y-o quadruple amputee? Those folks need some therapy to understand what pieces of shit they are. Then they should cry in misery for the rest of their lives. Beyond despicable.
These people make Trump look like a generous, honest, felling and caring person. Not really, he still looks like the tramp he really is.
JPL
Another Friday night news dump that won’t be covered
BREAKING: Secret Service records contradict President Trump’s dubious claim that members of the Secret Service wanted the 2020 G-7 Summit to be hosted at his Doral resort
Anonymous At Work
@JPL: That qualifies for Holy Fucking Shit since I cannot believe that the Secret Service released those records. As much as I loathe Trump, even I would back the Secret Service’s “no comment” stance.
LongHairedWeirdo
The big about Trump asking for an investigation being wrong, even if Hunter Biden had committed wrongdoing, is correct, but incomplete. There’s no meaningful suspicion of wrongdoing, just cynically farmed coincidences. That’s key: if there was real evidence of potential wrongdoing, it would be okay to ask for an investigation into it.
It’s worth noting, a government that starts a baseless investigation as a “favor” is acting corruptly, so the “fighting corruption” excuse didn’t even make it to the toilet for appropriate disposal before it was a nonstarter.
What’s killed the Republicans is, they’ve had CONGRESS to do investigations for so long, for purely partisan purposes, that I think they forgot that it’s a heck of a lot more serious to sic law enforcement on people. Sure, Congress can investigate behavior that “raises questions”, but the DOJ has undoubtedly refused to open the investigation into the Bidens a half dozen times or more, so, really everyone knows that it’s illegal for the US to do this. Nevertheless, they’re defending the President trying to do something using another country, just to avoid putting his fingerprints on the obvious crime in *this* country.
Amir Khalid
This guy should henceforth and forever be known as Rand bin Ron.
Steeplejack
@debbie:
Yes, everything after the final </blockquote>. And always make sure you’re posting a tweet from Text mode. (Not sure how sticky that is between comments.)
Delayed reply because I went to Safeway and Trader Joe’s on the way home. Now I am equipped to stay in the bunker until . . . Tuesday, I’m guessing. Maybe Wednesday.
Mai naem mobile
I would love to see what Putin has on Rand Paul, Louisiana’s Sen.John Kennedy, Mark Meadows and Lee Zeldin. I am guessing Rand Paul has something to do with the Ron Paul Revolution AKA Rand Grifteranza. Kennedy is probably financial corruption. Zeldin looked like a real douchebag today. Lindsay Graham is probably sexual. Jim Jordan is probably the OSU sex abuse scandal.
Steeplejack
@JPL:
I’m so far behind I don’t even remember Trump ‘s claim, much less the Secret Service contradiction.
Gin & Tonic
@LongHairedWeirdo: If anyone actually believes that Donald J Trump is seriously interested in “fighting corruption” in Ukraine or anywhere else, I suggest they contact me, as I have – through unanticipated circumstances – come into the control of the sum of USD $ 12,000,000 (millions) which I will need assistance in transferring from the National Bank of Nigeria.
Mai naem mobile
@LongHairedWeirdo: I think its hilarious that the rules the GOP passed to hurt the Dems are biting them in the ass. The Teabaggers who hadn’t been in the minority had no idea how it was going to be when they were going to be in the minority . Idiots i am guessing thought they would never be in the minority . Same for Bevin in Ky. They had rules to make it hard for people to call for a recount etc. Hope the Senate GOP finds that out in 2021
Steeplejack
@Gin & Tonic:
Huh. I would have thought Kyiv Savings & Loan.
debbie
@Steeplejack:
Delayed response: Thanks!