… than mocking the powerful. Remember that whole “Screw You, King George” Yankee Doodle stuff from your elementary-school history classes, wingnuts?
Not to mention the endless BUT OUR PRECIOUS FIRST AMENDMENT!!! butthurt from Very Serious Pundits, every time it was suggested that calling for rape or murder of one’s enemies might be just a tad excessive?
First off – LOL shut it.
Secondly – Trump will hate this because it's like having your Mom admonish the whole school during recess for laughing at your dumbass new haircut. https://t.co/i2d6mtV2v9
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) October 28, 2019
Perhaps most relevant, his first and last reaction to any opposition is to accuse his critics of being criminals and traitors. The insults typically laced with racial, ethnic or gender stereotypes.
And he's always the last to condemn violence committed in his name.
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) October 28, 2019
And we're all stuck here as he's installed an attorney general who has obviously used his power to cover up misdeeds and harass those who've investigated wrongdoing.
So yeah, last night he got one of his favorite chants turned back on him. Gods, did we ever need to hear it.
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) October 28, 2019
I believe the Lock Him Up chant at the Nationals game was affirmatively good; not just not bad. Because it demonstrates Trump and his policies are opposed by large numbers of normal, every day people. The public needs to see opposition- just like the saw it in the Women's March
— Neera Tanden (@neeratanden) October 28, 2019
Where do cracks in @realDonaldTrump’s impeachment defense begin?
Well…a weak POTUS, already secretly viewed as an obnoxious disaster by most GOP Senators, booed loudly at the World Series…
That makes a big impression on Republicans who already see their party being destroyed. https://t.co/gbo1nFEvLD— Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) October 28, 2019
extrapolating electoral takes from the nats park boos is dumb but it is a reminder of the carefully constructed reality lots of presidents experience, where critics exist in press and on TV but not IRL. the base that loves them is tangible but the one that doesnt is imaginary
— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) October 28, 2019
Yutsano
Obviously that stadium was full of elite east coast effete snobs. None of those folks were the real American salt of the Earth base that truly support the President! Just you wait until you lose next November libtards!
randy khan
Two good decisions by Nats fans in the three games there this weekend: (1) Booing Roberta Osuna when he came into the game on Friday night; (2) booing and mocking Trump when he was shown on the Jumbotron on Sunday night.
Pity they weren’t rewarded for their good taste, but that’s baseball.
I do feel kind of bad for Nats management, which almost certainly did not want him there – they know their fan base – and had to deal with all of the hassles, endure him taking up one of the boxes, and knew they had to show him on the Jumbotron and what reaction he would get. But when a President wants to go to a game, he gets to go to the game.
Trump missed this because he arrived just a few minutes before the game started, but I’m sure he would have been really steamed not just to see Jose Andres throw out the first pitch, but also to see the genuine affection that Andres and Ryan Zimmerman – Mr. National – had for each other.
ETA: I almost forgot to mention that one hot take about the game – that since the seats were going for $1,300, it was all fancypants rich people – is not correct. Based on Friday night’s game, which I attended, I’d say that most of the fans actually were Nats season ticket holders. Anybody who had a 20-game plan or better could buy tickets for all of the postseason games, and given what I heard from people around me (who were, for instance, talking about how their seats compared to their regular seats), I’d say that the vast majority of the people in the stands were regulars. And while the tickets were pricey, they were nowhere near the StubHub prices you saw quoted various places, which were 5-10 times face value depending on what tickets you were talking about. (Also, from looking at StubHub, there just weren’t that many tickets available; maybe 10-20% of the capacity was resold.)
hells littlest angel
A crowd that can boo the president without then being strafed by fighter jets makes him look weak to other important world leaders like Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin. He’ll be laughed out of the next meeting of the League of Evil.
Elizabelle
Barbara can come scold me all she wants, but put me on record saying Joe and Mika are
bimbostwats.And germy put up a perfect tweet in the morning thread about Morning Joe and those who are there to manufacture consensus (and on NBC, yet):
NBC is a real problem, among all the big 3 legacy broadcasters. Have any of you read Ronan Farrow’s book yet? There is a horrible culture underfoot there, and look at how they have skewed political coverage, on many topics.
scott (the other one)
I suspect the drubbing the Concerned Civility Caucus is getting is shocking to them because oh my stars and garters don’t they know who I am?! Here’s hoping it has at least a tiny effect on a few of them moving forward.
Jeffro
LOVE how it rattled not just him, but Melania and The Toadies as well.
OT 1: The Economist is busy not helping rid us of trumpov by…going all in against Liz Warren, b/w ‘grim’ photo w/ red tape (get it?) on the cover this week.
OT 2: true confession – it did not dawn on me until today that at least 51% of the reason trumpov bangs on Chicago so much is that it’s Obama’s home base. Seriously! And I thought I was smart. I know there’s other marginal reasons for the 49% of his woofing but now I get why he returns to it again and again.
DCrefugee
Regarding Moanin’ Joe:
I wish upon him carnal knowledge with a rusty chain saw, etc. Once the republican gets into the system, it can’t be fully removed. The only cure is destruction.
I would have thought the shenanigans with the intern who ended up dead would have been enough to banish him from the public arena and I genuinely do not understand why that beady-eyed MOFO is still around…
dmsilev
I’ll grant Trump the ‘respect due the office’ just as soon as I see a scintilla of evidence that he respects the office. I feel I’ll be waiting a while.
schrodingers_cat
Can we make a list of these civility police pundits and journalists, so we know not to take their takes seriously
1. Morning Joe and Mika
2. Nate Silver who was may be snarking
Who else?
Yutsano
@DCrefugee: One question: why would you do such a thing to a poor implement at the end of its useful existence?
#AllChainsawsMatter
@schrodingers_cat: Chris Cilizza. George Will. Mark Thiessen. Hugh Hewitt.
janesays
@randy khan: Out of curiosity, how could every fan who had 20 game season ticket packs buy tickets to every single postseason game? I assume that 4 different people hold those 20 game season ticket packs for a lot of the same seats, and if all 4 people want to go to every game, how does that work? It could only work if the total number of season ticket holders – of any ticket package size – does not exceed the number of seats in the ballpark.
Anyway, I had a 27 game package to Busch Stadium in 2006 (the inaugural season of the new stadium), and when the Cards made the postseason that year, the only people guaranteed tickets to every postseason game were full season ticket holders. After that, half-season ticket holders got the next priority. The 27-game pack holders were guaranteed tickets to one game in each of the first two series (NLDS and NLCS), but not to the World Series.
Patricia Kayden
feebog
When you think about it, it is pretty remarkable that this is the first public event with thousands of people who were not handpicked sycophants and cultists. One thing is certain, he is never going to another game or public event where he does not have complete control of the audience.
O. Felix Culpa
@schrodingers_cat: Not a journalist, but Sen. Chris Coons (D-Delaware) joined the civility chorus.
Yutsano
@feebog: All rallies, all the time baby!
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Morning Blow had no problem with Dump when he was promoting “Lock Her Up” chants and birtherism.
dmsilev
@schrodingers_cat: For anything that doesn’t involve data analysis, Nate Silver is useless. Or, to use an analogy he’d appreciate, he’s a below replacement level pundit.
Yutsano
@David Merry Christmas Koch: Inb4 rikyrah: WE. HAVE. THE. DAMN. RECEIPTS.
Litlebritdifrnt
As someone noted on Twitter what kind of an asshole parent doesn’t take his Kid (Barron) to a baseball game given the chance? It is clear that Twitler couldn’t give a shit about his youngest child.
lgerard
Nats fans have a history of resistance. I remember in the very first series of the year against the Mets someone unfurled a giant Impeach trump banner out in right center field. It was up there for a while until security made them take it down.
Also, there was a protest of a different kind as well
Elizabelle
@Jeffro: Yes. The fact that the one percent and the bankers and MOTUs are afraid of Elizabeth Warren is … a huge point in her favor. They want us to settle for Senator St. Joe Biden of the credit card companies.
FTF NYTimes did a story today reminding their readers “For a Populist, Warren Has Often Defended Big Business in Court”
They’ve got it headlined “Elizabeth Warren’s Days Defending Big Corporations” when you pull it up. But, when you review the reader comments, sorted by “most liked”, the readers see what the MOTUs and Sulzbergers would rather they did not.
I put this up mainly because, as bad as the FTF Giuliani-fed NYTimes can be, I appreciate that they give their readers a chance to talk back to the paper and its reporters. Which fits in with the theme of our blogpost.
Actually, sometimes I wish they would farm their political coverage out to some of the smarter reader commenters. Their professional (actually paid access) journalists are horrid. Maggie Haberyuck.
Shana
@Jeffro: Well that and to his mind “Chicago = “Black”
Chyron HR
@Litlebritdifrnt:
I mean, we haven’t seen a paternity test yet.
Mary G
My fond fantasy for today:
Twitler sees that Obama met the dog, Cairo, who went on the Bin Laden raid, but Cairo had to wear a muzzle. Twitler says this dog will recognize him as a fellow tough guy, and orders the muzzle removed for a picture. The dog sees an asshole who says bad things about dogs, and bites his upthrust thumb. Not off, I am not a monster, but a good puncture wound.
And if the military didn’t want the dog’s name declassified, why was it OK for the infant in the Oval Office to declassify the dog’s picture so he can put it on Twitter? Isn’t the same far-fetched risk involved?
NotMax
@Litlebritdifrnt
Could also be the kid has no interest in baseball.
Elizabelle
Isn’t it possible Barron and his grandparents/companions were at the game, but not sitting with his parents and all the fuss?
japa21
It is precisely because I respect the office of the President that I feel comfortable booing Trump. I am booing him because he is making a mockery of the office. To show him respect would actually be disrespecting the office.
debbie
One must have been very oblivious to have lived as long as Trump has and never observed that a person always gets back what they’ve put out.
Dan B
The “civility / respect” crap is from people who are clueless about the fear this administration and the GOP have put most minorities, immigrants and asylim seekers, people with chronic medical conditions, and many women. People living on fixed incomes and peole with disabilities are on the same boat. These self satisfied white people don’t have a clue about the level of dread. Their biggest complaint is about discourtesy and bad manners?
How have they missed the horrible plans the Stephen Millers, Betsey DeVoses, and Bill Barrs are rolling out? How big are their blinders? Which corners of their hearts have turned to ice?
Have they forgotten the Kurds, the kids in cages, the people who can’t afford insulin, students who will never be able to discharge their debts, the young black men whose lives are cut short, the trans service members who are one co away from discharge? The list could go on. We don’t want courtesy we want justice and dignity.
debbie
@Yutsano:
David Brooks too.
jl
@Elizabelle: Now that Sanders is, at least in national polls, a very definite third, the powers that be don’t have to pretend that Warren would be a progressive that they could work with. So, they are throwing whatever have baked spaghetti, or mud, or something else, against the wall, to see what sticks.
Same tricks they used against Obama: he was too authentically black, not authentically black, no really black, a radical community organizer, a limousine liberal John Kerry elitist.
it didn’t work against Obama, and it won’t work against Warren if people like what she’s saying.
Elizabelle
@schrodingers_cat: Of all people, David Cay Johnston, at the very end of his long Raw Story article, after a hard hitting update: David Cay Johnston on Trump’s lying, crazy, self-absorbed weekend
That seems a misreading of the situation on his part, and perhaps he will not say it going forward.
===
I know Trump does not often appear in public, but it was stunning that his guests were solely Republican sycophants. I think you’ve seen a slightly more bipartisan group with previous presidents.
OTOH, at least no Sean Hannity or Giuliani. Or any Russians, that we could see.
Geeno
@NotMax: Or, perhaps, he has no interest in spending time with Daddy.
jl
Not watching the clip of Jughead and Betty right now. I have to look up on the internet what happens if you laugh hysterically and throw up at the same time. What goofs. Like what, Pelosi and Soros paid all those people to chant? Their take is idiotic.
Like maybe they might consider that the fact that baseball fans of all colors, ages and income brackets would boo Trump and (rightly, and in accordance with available evidence, IMHO) chant ‘Lock him up!’, means something about the popular mood in the country? But if you live in GOP and corporate flunky world long enough, democracy run by ordinary people who can think for themselves and have agency becomes a concept beyond all imagination.
Mary G
And the same people complaining about lack of civility today would have been knocking MLK and the civil rights movement for blocking the bridge to Selma. “We understand and support you, but people have to get to work, can’t you stay on the sidewalk?” The letter from the Birmingham jail answered this:
From an LATimes column by Michael Hitzlik about why the lady who threw SHS out of her restaurant had a right to do it.
hueyplong
@Elizabelle: If Trump took his cell phone the Russians were there.
Elizabelle
@jl: FWIW, John Legend and Chrissy Teigen like what she’s saying.
WaPost: John Legend and Chrissy Teigen endorse Elizabeth Warren: ‘She’s the best candidate running today’
Chrissy Teigen is exactly where a lot of us are. We love Elizabeth AND Kamala. May the best woman win, and actually end up in the White House this time.
How can we get them to be jackals, too?
Elizabelle
@jl:
LOL. Thank you.
JPL
@Elizabelle: If he enjoys baseball, I hope so.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
Ugh. Leave minor children completely the hell alone.
Adult Trumps, however, are all fair game for the most uncivil incivility that ever destroyed our civil discourse (which was previously ever so civil).
Smedley Darlington Mingobat (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
It’s about fucking time he heard with his own personal ears just what most Americans think of him.
NotMax
Open thread? This contains innate potential to get very out of hand very fast.
emjayay
@NotMax: So, he’s gay?
Gelfling 545
The world needed to hear it. Knowing that many of us reject him and all his works might make it slightly more possible to restore trust when he’s finally kicked to the curb.
debbie
The reception must have really shaken Trump. No rage tweeting, mostly retweets of the few who love him.
J R in WV
@Elizabelle:
Pretty sure they are all Russians, at least by payroll data, all Russians. How else could every decision made by Trump favor Russia, unless he and all his cohorts were Russian through and thru??
Also, Barron, last offspring of the Trump, may or may not want to see a baseball game, with or without his father. Given what we know about Barron and Trump perhaps he is lucky to not want to go to a baseball game with his father?!
Elizabelle
@NotMax: That sounds like a horrible idea.
Out to see a scary movie. Happy beginning of Halloween week, jackals.
jl
@Elizabelle: Kind of insulting to Betty, though. I apologize.
But Veronica a a brunette, and that comparison would a little insulting to Veronica too.
Jeffro
@Elizabelle: Just tweet at them, and often. They’ll respond eventually (but then again so will all the RWNJ trolls…never mind)
Send them a postcard? It worked for me and Lin-Manuel! ;)
trollhattan
@debbie:
Clever Donny was outsmarted by Actual Donny. If the whole “I’ve known about the raid for two weeks” thing is true, then he finagled the WS appearance knowing the raid would have taken place the night before and he would receive the warm adulation of a grateful nation in real time for having his enemy “die like a dog.”
Funny, how things work out.
O. Felix Culpa
It’s patently obvious that 45 is a horrible parent, viz. the Fredos and Ivanka. That said, I think it’s misguided to criticize him for Barron not being at the game. 45 doesn’t appear to have much if anything to do with the child, but Barron might not like baseball, he might not like crowds, he might not like being with his father. We’re not privy to that information, which is exactly as it should be.
JPL
@emjayay: no funny..
Sally
This is an answer to Aleta in the dead thread below. In case anyone is interested.
@Aleta: When an EOD dog detects explosives she is trained to lie down wherever she is. This is to spread the weight so as not to trigger an explosion, to indicate where the explosive device is, and to not move until a handler can determine a safe extraction (for the dog). The dogs are very smart, highly trained and have fabulous personalities.
different-church-lady
You know what’s really worrying the pundits? The creeping realization that they’ve lost control of the narrative.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@emjayay: Offensive comment there.
O. Felix Culpa
@Sally: Thank you for that information. Dogs are amazing.
JPL
@O. Felix Culpa: If trump thought his son being at the game could improve his poll numbers, he’d do it. The fact that he wasn’t there is good.
Now for my snaky side, I heard that there is a reason that trump said vaccines cause autism..
debbie
@trollhattan:
Kelly was right when he told Trump he really needed to hire a COS who wasn’t a yes man.
JPL
@debbie: You mean Kelly the guy who supporter his boss’s racist antics..that one.
different-church-lady
pretty sure I saw folks at LGM discussing Barron being on the spectrum, and thus ther’s a legit reason to not bring him.
Additionally, it’s a stupidly petty point to make while watching an enemy make an entire day of mistakes.
Anne Laurie
@Litlebritdifrnt:
To be fair, I personally think the less time Barron spends around his father, the better for him (& his future associates; look at Tiffany vs Ivanka).
Also, since it seems like Barron is being raised mostly by his mother/mother’s parents, he may be more interested in soccer than baseball, yes?
NotMax
@Elizabelle
I no longer go to the movie theater (acute allergic reaction to something in the multiplex here) but shall definitely be keeping an eye out for this one to show up on streaming. (Additional trailer.)
Anyone seen it yet?
debbie
@JPL:
Yep, him. Even clocks are right two times a day (or whatever the saying is).
VeniceRiley
My NaCoWriMo would be that Melania is the actual Russian operative that is Trump’s full time handler. Oh, and Barron thinks baseball and golf are lame.
Back from 2 week vacation – my new UK GF came here. Took her to the beaches, malls for shopping and movies, Disneyland, and laid out by the pool. Almost zero politics or news and I’ve never been happier. Boy, did that ever tell me plenty of something!
Sebastian
I think it might not be a bad idea to contact MJ’s advertisers and complain about his and Mika’s Un-Americaness.
Like AL and many other commenters already said, labeling a BASEBALL CROWD as Un-American is beyond the pale.
NotMax
@emjayjay
Will give you the benefit of the doubt that you were trying to make a funny, however that is offensive on more levels than I have fingers.
danielx
@hells littlest angel:
“I want the whole stadium arrested!”
Anne Laurie
@Mary G:
What I’ve seen is that knowing the dog’s name would allow people to learn the handler’s name, which would show which Delta team was involved in the raid. Somewhat less likely, I think, that someone can trace a particular purebred dog through its picture — image recognition is a growth area, but that’s pretty exquisite discrimination. (Yes, I am saying that all fit adult working Malinois in ‘uniform’ look… pretty much the same. At least if you’re not a professional dog show judge or Malinois breeder.)
debbie
Mary G
@Sally: Wow, thank you I would never have thought of that, it’s brilliant. It’s always a bit concerning to think that we put military dogs in danger, and there have been a number of them reported KIA. Nice to know they have developed procedures to mitigate that. I know the dogs are bred to love to work.
O. Felix Culpa
@JPL: My spouse (currently) and I (formerly) have worked with individuals with disabilities, including autism. Barron’s affect in his few public appearances suggest that he might be somewhere on the spectrum. 45’s focus on vaccinations as a (false) cause neglects inconvenient evidence that advanced paternal age at conception is associated with higher odds for autism. Not conclusively proven yet, but studies point in that direction.
debbie
And back to MJ:
japa21
Just read where al-Baghdadi’s remains were given the same treatment as bin Laden’s. Burial at sea with full rites. Why do I think Trump was not aware that would happen?
I remember all the howling at Obama when bin Laden’s remains were given that ritual send-off.
JPL
So twitter is saying that the trump’s handed out candy to the trick or treaters for thirty minutes and they entered with the Addam’s Family theme song in the background.
different-church-lady
@debbie: There it is: this month’s internets won.
Mary G
From the book of the guy who worked for Mattis. This is a grave insult to squirrels.
O. Felix Culpa
@different-church-lady:
From your keyboard to your deity of choice’s ears.
jl
It belatedly occurred to me that it’s kind of a tradition for sports fans to boo politicians at games, even popular ones. So, we need a way to calculate how much more Trump got booed than the average politician gets booed. Anyone do that? We should do that before we declare the whole stadium guilty of treason and deal with them the way we used to do.
JPL
@O. Felix Culpa: Rather than just helping his son, the narcissist would rather blame someone else.
Yutsano
@emjayay: Oh dear. Does this mean I have to abandon my decades of Mariners fandom just because I happen to be on the queer spectrum? Nah. I’m not going to fit into your ridiculous stereotypes nym I have never seen bore and most likely never will again. I can’t believe I’m wasting the electrons on you. But…here we all are anyway.
Shorter me: troll somewhere else.
O. Felix Culpa
@jl: I think it’s enough to know that Trump got booed bigly. Tremendous boos. The best boos.
hueyplong
The RWNJs I know take a lot of comfort in their assumption that all true American sports fans are RWNJs like themselves.
Just another level on which last night worked for me. Probably too much to ask for this to happen at an NFL game.
O. Felix Culpa
@JPL: For sure. Narcissists (which I know up close and personal) are only and always about themselves. Other people exist solely to prop the narcissist up. And if those people – whether children or adults – don’t perform that function, they’re attacked and/or abandoned. It’s always a one-way transaction.
jl
@O. Felix Culpa: Thanks. I didn’t know that they had to Bigly Boo meter turned on. OK, then, the ordinary ‘lesser’ people of these great United States should be ashamed of themselves for expressing their opinion, just as they are usually told by their betters.
HumboldtBlue
It appears Cinderblock got caught cheating a little during her weigh-in
Jim, Foolish Literalist
WWII vet protests trump
anybody seen numbers on the crowd size?
NotMax
@O. Felix Culpa
Pace Ray Stevens:
Everything is bootiful
In its own way
;)
Sally
@Mary G: The handlers, in fact the entire squads, adore their dogs and are directed not to risk their lives to save their dogs, but …. the dogs are colleagues.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@jl: @O. Felix Culpa: Trump established a new record! 100 dB is the mark to beat.
And seriously, jackals, the only argument for civility or decency I will make is that we should not be speculating about the physical/mental health, appearance, development, or family situation of minor children.
O. Felix Culpa
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: Point taken. :)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: he triggered some snowflakes
I’m just imagining the Chicago cop taking that call. Won’t even put down their sudoko pen
artem1s
I’m wondering how all the pearl clutchers knew that the crowd meant Donnie and not Joe Biden’s son? How did they know that the crowd wasn’t heaping praise on Donnie for uncovering the Biden’s evil schemes?
Because this is the world we live in I feel the need to point out this is snark. O_o
NotMax
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
What about those being held in cages?
Cacti
Joe Scarborough and Nate Silver can jump up each other’s asses.
Chris Coons needs to stop rolling over and showing his belly to the fascists.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@NotMax: JFC. The operative word there was “speculating.” When we can see abuse, it’s not speculating. Or were you suggesting we should visually screen those kids for signs of being on the spectrum or possession of asshole parents before we decide to award them sympathy or not?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Make politics boring again!
Cacti
@Yutsano:
Speaking of the M’s. Now that the Nats/Expos franchise made the World Series, guess who the only remaining MLB franchise is to never make it there? :-( 43 seasons and counting.
NotMax
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
Merely pointing out it’s far from a hard and fast rule.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Boring sounds good. I’d be eternally grateful for boring.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Dorothy A. Winsor: me too, actually. I would very happily vote for Klobuchar.
I think it’s Bennet who says, if I’m elected I promise you can go a week at a time without thinking about me
Chris T.
@Elizabelle:
We need some more words…
wastrels
lice (or ticks) upon the body politic
cretins
mooncalves
… need some more here…
japa21
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Agree as well. Mrs. Japa really likes Klobuchar and would happily vote for her.
BTW: Read your short story. Really enjoyed it. Never asked my grandson if he read your book we got him last year. I’ll have to remember to do so. He tends, like a lot of grandchildren, not to mention things, even if he really enjoyed them, unless prodded.
O. Felix Culpa
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I would be ok with Klobuchar. Not happy as in turning cartwheels, but we could do and currently have much, much worse.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
polity lice? I like mooncalves, even though I have no freakin idea what it means
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: ” I think it’s Bennet who says, if I’m elected I promise you can go a week at a time without thinking about me ”
We now have a president who’s gone almost three years without thinking about any of us.
Quite a contrast
Dorothy A. Winsor
@japa21: I hope he enjoyed it, but if he didn’t, that’s ok too. Not all books are for all readers.
Glad you liked the story.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@J R in WV: OT: Re your question about oval star movement in the morning thread, it’s the fisheye lens.
Millard Filmore
@Anne Laurie:
Are these dogs trained in Dutch, as John Reese in Person Of Interest claimed?
Jeffro
@debbie: that’s an excellent take.
@debbie: ok that one is even better.
The whole country, not just the both-sides media, needs a serious dose of Wake the F*** Up.
The GOP has been working the refs so hard, for so long, that nobody anywhere remembers what the game was like before trumpublican Calvinball took over. 17-point touchdowns if you’re on the Heartland Elephants team? Immunity from penalties after the first two minutes when you’re a Wingnut Warrior? Today’s “playing field” sure looks a lot like that…
japa21
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Hope you enjoy your cruise. IIRC, you’re going to be spending a lot of time on the open ocean without stops. When Mrs. Japa and I took a cruise of Hawai’i when departed from and returned to San Diego, so 5 days pure sailing each way. Total relaxation time. Fully ready for the hecticness when we hit the ports and took our excursions and then decompression time coming back. Other than a few days with bad weather and high seas, it went fine. The high seas did, of course, ruin our anniversary dinner. Didn’t impact me, but Mrs. Japa, even with the patches, suffered seasickness, though not as bad as some passengers.
May I ask which line you are going on?
Evil_Paul
It just hit me: Trump was trying to recreate Obama’s triumph at the Washington Correspondent’s Dinner!
Think about it: Trump had been dogging Obama for months with his Birtherism bullshit. Then, within a matter of days, Obama releases his long-form birth certificate, oversees the raid that killed Bin Laden, then rolls out to the WCD to crack jokes at Trump (who was in the audience and looked like he was one breath away from a tantrum).
That bloated orange gas-bag must have thought that if a “mere” black man could do it, then he could do it better. Maybe he expected such a rousing round of applause that there’d be a game delay or something. Thing is, you can’t fake class. When Obama announced the death of bin Laden, he did it with somber gravitas. When Trump announced the death of Abu-Bakr al-Bagdadi, he handled it like a WWE wrestling spot.
I mean, I’m not shedding a fucking tear for al-Bagdadi. I’ll same my pity for his victims (including those children he apparently took with him). But the difference between between Obama and Trump is the difference between justice and revenge. Justice may not give you satisfaction, and you may think you want revenge. But truly getting revenge will probably leave you feeling a bit sick inside.
The Lodger
@NotMax: Computer viruses started out as a proof of concept, too.
O. Felix Culpa
@Chris T.: Some good old English insults at this link.
I particularly like bespawler, cumberworld, fopdoodle, gillie-wet-foot, and loiter-sack.
tokyokie
@NotMax: I saw Parasite Friday night. It’s the best new movie I’ve seen in several years, even taking into consideration my soft spot for Korean movies. The only negative reviews I saw on Rotten Tomatoes were a couple from commentators who seemed put off by its class consciousness.
TomatoQueen
@Litlebritdifrnt: The kid has been seen in full Arsenal replica kit, so possibly a baseball game might not appeal to him. Or, considering how rarely this child is seen in public, there may be a deliberate ongoing effort to keep him out of the public eye.
Steeplejack
@randy khan:
Anecdatum on ticket prices and audience: Occasionally I stop in at the Dogfish Head Alehouse near me for a burger and a pint at the bar. Guy sitting next to me a couple of Fridays ago was a regular dude, 30-ish African-American, works at an Amazon warehouse. Got a ticket to Game 4 for $700 and was totally psycbed about going. Probably not a Trump fan, from his demographic, but also not a rich coastal elite fat cat or “fancypants rich people,” in your phrase.
jl
@O. Felix Culpa: I’m a fan of flaccid bull’s pizzle. It’s in Shakespeare, so not only civil, but very high toned and cultured.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@japa21: Viking. We’ve taken river cruises with them but never an ocean one. I’m loading up my kindle and planning to take my exercise clothes. I’m looking forward to slowing down and vegetating.
snoey
@The Lodger: Didn’t talk.origins ultimately decide that awarding Loki points was too dangerous?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@O. Felix Culpa:
O. Felix Culpa
@jl:
One of the best high toned and cultured insults, and fitting to boot – although more in concept than in size.
BobS
I’m starting to think we’re going to look back on yesterday as a watershed moment, of sorts. I think what happened in Syria was orchestrated to immediately precede Trump’s appearance in front of an atypically non-handpicked crowd that would (presumably) shower him with accolades. However, not only did they throw a curveball (obligatory baseball reference) with the boos, a crowd of ordinary Americans essentially told the emperor he had no clothes with the shouts of “Lock him up!”
This seems to have energized a lot of people on our side- if we’re smart, we’ll be using that until November of next year.
Ladyraxterinok
@hells littlest angel:
Excellent point—he is so losing the dictator realm!!
O. Felix Culpa
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Also excellent. English is a wondrously rich language.
sukabi
@Dan B: pretty sure they do understand the misery and fear drumpf is causing in those communities, it’s that they DON’T CARE. As long as they’re not inconvenienced or made uncomfortable it doesn’t even enter their minds.
Ladyraxterinok
@DCrefugee:
Esp when at the same time a dem Rep in a somewhat similar position was endlessly castigated and dissected by media for months. I only heard about Joe’s dead intern a long time afterward in some blog post. As far as I recall he and intern were never mentioned on TV. And in that period I watched LOTS of political tv!
Josie
@BobS:
From your lips to FSM’s ears!
The Lodger
@Ladyraxterinok: As I recall Scarborough’s scandal was Dead Girl and Hastert’s was Live Boy.
The Lodger
@snoey: What’s a Loki point?
Ladyraxterinok
@jl:
Annnd—hangs out with communists, real father a notorious black communist who also trained him whilr he was growing up in Hawaii, his step father was a Muslim!!, mother of ill repute because honestly what nice white girl at the time he was conceived dated blacks!?
dww44
@schrodingers_cat: I saw Chris Coons condemning the “lock him up chants ” as a lack of respect of the office of the Presidency. on Chris Hayes’ show. Hayes gently disagreed with Coons by saying that it was a satirical response.
Earlier there was also Michael Beschloss and someone whose name and face elude me, saying on Chris Mathews that the booing was okay, but the “lock him up was not good.” I honestly do not see why they have such a problem when Trump himself was voted into office saying nasty things about most of us Americans and hasn’t stopped since then. IMO, he reaped what he sowed. And it did my hear good to hear the chants.
Zinsky
Those Republicans can dish it out but they sure can’t take it, can they? Snowflakes…
snoey
@The Lodger: Creating a ridiculous reason to believe in creationism, and getting a real creationist to cite it.
jonathan w fine
according to the pundit class denizen’s of flyover dinner’s are real american’s baseball fans not so much
Ladyraxterinok
@NotMax:
Don’t some claim the Q conspiracy was started as a joke??
J R in WV
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Ah, OK makes sense. Lenses are important, the first thing the light hits on the way to making an image.
Thanks! I learn something(s) every day here on B-J>!
Now I gotta go feed the furry babes.
BroD
@japa21:
Exactly!
mrmoshpotato
I’d like to add Joejoe getting punched in the groin in addition to Hillary caving in both sides of Chuckles Todd’s bothsiderist bullshit face.
“We are Americans and we do not do that.” Oh fuck off to Mother Russia already Joejoe if you hate the US Constitution.
Uncle Cosmo
@O. Felix Culpa:
Or he might just not like having to wear a suit to a baseball game.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
also, that this got about as much attention as Ross Douthat’s thoughts on the miniskirt (or whatever the fuck that squirrelly little fuck is babbling about lately) can only be blamed on the American people
Ladyraxterinok
@The Lodger:
The dem Rep was from CA I think. The young woman working for him disappeared. There were weeks of speculation—did he date her, stalk her, have relations with her? And then her body was found somewhere. More weeks of did he kill her?will he be arrested? Ad infinitum. After many months of sad parents, serious-voiced pundit,etc, etc the story finally died out
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Ladyraxterinok: two different cases, Chandra Levy was found dead in a DC park and it was later revealed she had been having an affair with the married Rep Gary Condit, who had nothing to do with her death.
Scarborough’s case was a young woman who died, IIRC of natural causes, in his district office. Scarborough had recently announced his marriage was ending and people said it was because he was cheating (maybe with the woman he left for Mika?) and a lot of rumors spread about the intern
cain
@jl:
I find it funny that a man who got an actual heart attack doesn’t get much press afterwards but there was wall to wall coverage for Hillary for just a fainting.
Dan B
@sukabi: My in-laws have a similar country club attitude. You would be better off if you were better mannered. At least uou would be as well off as you deserve. Never mind that my family was 100% college grads, except me the gay boy who got kicked out. And we were friends with old money millionaires and billionaires. We knew polite behavior and when to let er rip when it was tiresome for everyone.
And I was accepted into their social circles despite being without all the credentials and medals. I did great work. I even got my in laws out of big trouble with the state with a plan to restore 150 feet of shoreline they had cleared.
I have a vision of Molly Ivins in the Nat’s stadium hooting and hollering. Now if I could get Ms. Ivins to hoot and holler in dark of night at the in laws that would make life complete.
David ??Booooooo?? Koch
Dump really thought he would receive cheer.
Sad!