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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Hail to the Hairpiece / Open Thread: There’s Nothing More All-American…

Open Thread: There’s Nothing More All-American…

by Anne Laurie|  October 28, 20195:57 pm| 147 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, All Too Normal, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

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… than mocking the powerful. Remember that whole “Screw You, King George” Yankee Doodle stuff from your elementary-school history classes, wingnuts?

Not to mention the endless BUT OUR PRECIOUS FIRST AMENDMENT!!! butthurt from Very Serious Pundits, every time it was suggested that calling for rape or murder of one’s enemies might be just a tad excessive?

First off – LOL shut it.

Secondly – Trump will hate this because it's like having your Mom admonish the whole school during recess for laughing at your dumbass new haircut. https://t.co/i2d6mtV2v9

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) October 28, 2019

Perhaps most relevant, his first and last reaction to any opposition is to accuse his critics of being criminals and traitors. The insults typically laced with racial, ethnic or gender stereotypes.

And he's always the last to condemn violence committed in his name.

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) October 28, 2019

And we're all stuck here as he's installed an attorney general who has obviously used his power to cover up misdeeds and harass those who've investigated wrongdoing.

So yeah, last night he got one of his favorite chants turned back on him. Gods, did we ever need to hear it.

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) October 28, 2019

I believe the Lock Him Up chant at the Nationals game was affirmatively good; not just not bad. Because it demonstrates Trump and his policies are opposed by large numbers of normal, every day people. The public needs to see opposition- just like the saw it in the Women's March

— Neera Tanden (@neeratanden) October 28, 2019

Where do cracks in @realDonaldTrump’s impeachment defense begin?
Well…a weak POTUS, already secretly viewed as an obnoxious disaster by most GOP Senators, booed loudly at the World Series…
That makes a big impression on Republicans who already see their party being destroyed. https://t.co/gbo1nFEvLD

— Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) October 28, 2019

extrapolating electoral takes from the nats park boos is dumb but it is a reminder of the carefully constructed reality lots of presidents experience, where critics exist in press and on TV but not IRL. the base that loves them is tangible but the one that doesnt is imaginary

— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) October 28, 2019

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  1. 1.

    Yutsano

    October 28, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    Obviously that stadium was full of elite east coast effete snobs. None of those folks were the real American salt of the Earth base that truly support the President! Just you wait until you lose next November libtards!

  2. 2.

    randy khan

    October 28, 2019 at 6:03 pm

    Two good decisions by Nats fans in the three games there this weekend: (1) Booing Roberta Osuna when he came into the game on Friday night; (2) booing and mocking Trump when he was shown on the Jumbotron on Sunday night.

    Pity they weren’t rewarded for their good taste, but that’s baseball.

    I do feel kind of bad for Nats management, which almost certainly did not want him there – they know their fan base – and had to deal with all of the hassles, endure him taking up one of the boxes, and knew they had to show him on the Jumbotron and what reaction he would get. But when a President wants to go to a game, he gets to go to the game.

    Trump missed this because he arrived just a few minutes before the game started, but I’m sure he would have been really steamed not just to see Jose Andres throw out the first pitch, but also to see the genuine affection that Andres and Ryan Zimmerman – Mr. National – had for each other.

    ETA: I almost forgot to mention that one hot take about the game – that since the seats were going for $1,300, it was all fancypants rich people – is not correct. Based on Friday night’s game, which I attended, I’d say that most of the fans actually were Nats season ticket holders. Anybody who had a 20-game plan or better could buy tickets for all of the postseason games, and given what I heard from people around me (who were, for instance, talking about how their seats compared to their regular seats), I’d say that the vast majority of the people in the stands were regulars. And while the tickets were pricey, they were nowhere near the StubHub prices you saw quoted various places, which were 5-10 times face value depending on what tickets you were talking about. (Also, from looking at StubHub, there just weren’t that many tickets available; maybe 10-20% of the capacity was resold.)

  3. 3.

    hells littlest angel

    October 28, 2019 at 6:05 pm

    A crowd that can boo the president without then being strafed by fighter jets makes him look weak to other important world leaders like Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin. He’ll be laughed out of the next meeting of the League of Evil.

  4. 4.

    Elizabelle

    October 28, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    Barbara can come scold me all she wants, but put me on record saying Joe and Mika are bimbos twats.

    And germy put up a perfect tweet in the morning thread about Morning Joe and those who are there to manufacture consensus (and on NBC, yet):

    The Morning Joe panel on how Nats fans were too rude to the President is a powerful cross-section of Regular Americans — former Republican congressmen, children of famous people, plagiarists, and a bunch of nondescript white dudes. pic.twitter.com/9dutJt4NUh— Dan Lavoie (@djlavoie) October 28, 2019

    NBC is a real problem, among all the big 3 legacy broadcasters. Have any of you read Ronan Farrow’s book yet? There is a horrible culture underfoot there, and look at how they have skewed political coverage, on many topics.

  5. 5.

    scott (the other one)

    October 28, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    I suspect the drubbing the Concerned Civility Caucus is getting is shocking to them because oh my stars and garters don’t they know who I am?! Here’s hoping it has at least a tiny effect on a few of them moving forward.

  6. 6.

    Jeffro

    October 28, 2019 at 6:14 pm

    LOVE how it rattled not just him, but Melania and The Toadies as well.

    OT 1: The Economist is busy not helping rid us of trumpov by…going all in against Liz Warren, b/w ‘grim’ photo w/ red tape (get it?) on the cover this week.

    OT 2: true confession – it did not dawn on me until today that at least 51% of the reason trumpov bangs on Chicago so much is that it’s Obama’s home base. Seriously! And I thought I was smart. I know there’s other marginal reasons for the 49% of his woofing but now I get why he returns to it again and again.

  7. 7.

    DCrefugee

    October 28, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    Regarding Moanin’ Joe:

    I wish upon him carnal knowledge with a rusty chain saw, etc. Once the republican gets into the system, it can’t be fully removed. The only cure is destruction.

    I would have thought the shenanigans with the intern who ended up dead would have been enough to banish him from the public arena and I genuinely do not understand why that beady-eyed MOFO is still around…

  8. 8.

    dmsilev

    October 28, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    I’ll grant Trump the ‘respect due the office’ just as soon as I see a scintilla of evidence that he respects the office. I feel I’ll be waiting a while.

  9. 9.

    schrodingers_cat

    October 28, 2019 at 6:18 pm

    Can we make a list of these civility police pundits and journalists, so we know not to take their takes seriously
    1. Morning Joe and Mika
    2. Nate Silver who was may be snarking

    Who else?

  10. 10.

    Yutsano

    October 28, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    @DCrefugee: One question: why would you do such a thing to a poor implement at the end of its useful existence?
    #AllChainsawsMatter
    @schrodingers_cat: Chris Cilizza. George Will. Mark Thiessen. Hugh Hewitt.

  11. 11.

    janesays

    October 28, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    @randy khan: Out of curiosity, how could every fan who had 20 game season ticket packs buy tickets to every single postseason game? I assume that 4 different people hold those 20 game season ticket packs for a lot of the same seats, and if all 4 people want to go to every game, how does that work? It could only work if the total number of season ticket holders – of any ticket package size – does not exceed the number of seats in the ballpark.

    Anyway, I had a 27 game package to Busch Stadium in 2006 (the inaugural season of the new stadium), and when the Cards made the postseason that year, the only people guaranteed tickets to every postseason game were full season ticket holders. After that, half-season ticket holders got the next priority. The 27-game pack holders were guaranteed tickets to one game in each of the first two series (NLDS and NLCS), but not to the World Series.

  12. 12.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 28, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    How this ends: Dog refuses invite, citing Trump's history of anti-dog metaphors. Trump mocks dog's injury, lashes back with dog-hating Twitter tirade. MAGA-philes boycott dogs, become cat people. Crowd chants "Put them down!" at next Trump rally. https://t.co/mdBsswTEll— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) October 28, 2019

  13. 13.

    feebog

    October 28, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    When you think about it, it is pretty remarkable that this is the first public event with thousands of people who were not handpicked sycophants and cultists. One thing is certain, he is never going to another game or public event where he does not have complete control of the audience.

  14. 14.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 6:22 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Not a journalist, but Sen. Chris Coons (D-Delaware) joined the civility chorus.

  15. 15.

    Yutsano

    October 28, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    @feebog: All rallies, all the time baby!

  16. 16.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    October 28, 2019 at 6:24 pm

    Morning Blow had no problem with Dump when he was promoting “Lock Her Up” chants and birtherism.

  17. 17.

    dmsilev

    October 28, 2019 at 6:25 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: For anything that doesn’t involve data analysis, Nate Silver is useless. Or, to use an analogy he’d appreciate, he’s a below replacement level pundit.

  18. 18.

    Yutsano

    October 28, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    @David Merry Christmas Koch: Inb4 rikyrah: WE. HAVE. THE. DAMN. RECEIPTS.

  19. 19.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    October 28, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    As someone noted on Twitter what kind of an asshole parent doesn’t take his Kid (Barron) to a baseball game given the chance? It is clear that Twitler couldn’t give a shit about his youngest child.

  20. 20.

    lgerard

    October 28, 2019 at 6:29 pm

    Nats fans have a history of resistance. I remember in the very first series of the year against the Mets someone unfurled a giant Impeach trump banner out in right center field. It was up there for a while until security made them take it down.

    Also, there was a protest of a different kind as well

  21. 21.

    Elizabelle

    October 28, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    @Jeffro: Yes. The fact that the one percent and the bankers and MOTUs are afraid of Elizabeth Warren is … a huge point in her favor. They want us to settle for Senator St. Joe Biden of the credit card companies.

    FTF NYTimes did a story today reminding their readers “For a Populist, Warren Has Often Defended Big Business in Court”

    They’ve got it headlined “Elizabeth Warren’s Days Defending Big Corporations” when you pull it up. But, when you review the reader comments, sorted by “most liked”, the readers see what the MOTUs and Sulzbergers would rather they did not.

    [The top reader comment -647 recommends] Oh, good God. My husband works in banking and says the big corporations hate and fear her so much that he doesn’t feel like she can be a realistic candidate. (I disagree.)

    I see the NY Times didn’t learn from the “But her emails” pieces that Hillary was just exonerated for. THAT story ran on page 16. Don’t try to take down another smart female candidate, please.

    [The second top comment, 629 likes at the moment]: I think this story reveals that Elizabeth Warren, true to how she portrays herself, is a capitalist and wishes to pursue changes in law to make the capitalist economy more vibrant and more beneficial to the broadest swath of the citizenry as possible. Contrary to the fear mongering of the corporate elite, she wants to open and strengthen opportunities to thrive in business for “the little guy”. What that means is complicated and won’t fit in to the rigid ideology of the Bernie backers, nor will it soothe the greedy souls of Wall Street. She also sees the ways in which government can rightfully expand its influence to provide greater opportunity for every citizen. As a voter and a citizen, I am comfortable with that complexity and that vision for increased access for citizens to make their lives and the lives of their families better.

    [And the third, and last I will put up]: She learned a lot I’m sure doing corporate defense. When you know the strategies and data of both sides it makes her more knowledgeable.

    What she did was ultimately choose to not be a Republican anymore and to defend consumers. She could have gone the other way. Lots of people would have no ethical issues with that career and would follow the money.

    She took the path less lucrative and also the moral high ground.
    I congratulate her for that.

    I put this up mainly because, as bad as the FTF Giuliani-fed NYTimes can be, I appreciate that they give their readers a chance to talk back to the paper and its reporters. Which fits in with the theme of our blogpost.

    Actually, sometimes I wish they would farm their political coverage out to some of the smarter reader commenters. Their professional (actually paid access) journalists are horrid. Maggie Haberyuck.

  22. 22.

    Shana

    October 28, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    @Jeffro: Well that and to his mind “Chicago = “Black”

  23. 23.

    Chyron HR

    October 28, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    I mean, we haven’t seen a paternity test yet.

  24. 24.

    Mary G

    October 28, 2019 at 6:33 pm

    My fond fantasy for today:

    Twitler sees that Obama met the dog, Cairo, who went on the Bin Laden raid, but Cairo had to wear a muzzle. Twitler says this dog will recognize him as a fellow tough guy, and orders the muzzle removed for a picture. The dog sees an asshole who says bad things about dogs, and bites his upthrust thumb. Not off, I am not a monster, but a good puncture wound.

    And if the military didn’t want the dog’s name declassified, why was it OK for the infant in the Oval Office to declassify the dog’s picture so he can put it on Twitter? Isn’t the same far-fetched risk involved?

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    October 28, 2019 at 6:33 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt

    Could also be the kid has no interest in baseball.

  26. 26.

    Elizabelle

    October 28, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    Isn’t it possible Barron and his grandparents/companions were at the game, but not sitting with his parents and all the fuss?

  27. 27.

    japa21

    October 28, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    It is precisely because I respect the office of the President that I feel comfortable booing Trump. I am booing him because he is making a mockery of the office. To show him respect would actually be disrespecting the office.

  28. 28.

    debbie

    October 28, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    One must have been very oblivious to have lived as long as Trump has and never observed that a person always gets back what they’ve put out.

  29. 29.

    Dan B

    October 28, 2019 at 6:40 pm

    The “civility / respect” crap is from people who are clueless about the fear this administration and the GOP have put most minorities, immigrants and asylim seekers, people with chronic medical conditions, and many women. People living on fixed incomes and peole with disabilities are on the same boat. These self satisfied white people don’t have a clue about the level of dread. Their biggest complaint is about discourtesy and bad manners?

    How have they missed the horrible plans the Stephen Millers, Betsey DeVoses, and Bill Barrs are rolling out? How big are their blinders? Which corners of their hearts have turned to ice?

    Have they forgotten the Kurds, the kids in cages, the people who can’t afford insulin, students who will never be able to discharge their debts, the young black men whose lives are cut short, the trans service members who are one co away from discharge? The list could go on. We don’t want courtesy we want justice and dignity.

  30. 30.

    debbie

    October 28, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    @Yutsano:

    David Brooks too.

  31. 31.

    jl

    October 28, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    @Elizabelle: Now that Sanders is, at least in national polls, a very definite third, the powers that be don’t have to pretend that Warren would be a progressive that they could work with. So, they are throwing whatever have baked spaghetti, or mud, or something else, against the wall, to see what sticks.

    Same tricks they used against Obama: he was too authentically black, not authentically black, no really black, a radical community organizer, a limousine liberal John Kerry elitist.

    it didn’t work against Obama, and it won’t work against Warren if people like what she’s saying.

  32. 32.

    Elizabelle

    October 28, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Of all people, David Cay Johnston, at the very end of his long Raw Story article, after a hard hitting update: David Cay Johnston on Trump’s lying, crazy, self-absorbed weekend

    When the Nationals stadium Jumbotron showed Trump and his entourage at the end of the fifth inning the crowd broke into chants of “lock him up.”

    That’s disgusting, an awful illustration of the state of our democracy thanks in good part to Trump’s debasement of civic debate.

    Much as we believe at DCReport that Trump should be removed from office and then prosecuted for his many state and federal criminal offenses, we call out mobs of all kinds as inimical to liberty and justice.

    That seems a misreading of the situation on his part, and perhaps he will not say it going forward.
    ===

    I know Trump does not often appear in public, but it was stunning that his guests were solely Republican sycophants. I think you’ve seen a slightly more bipartisan group with previous presidents.

    OTOH, at least no Sean Hannity or Giuliani. Or any Russians, that we could see.

  33. 33.

    Geeno

    October 28, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    @NotMax: Or, perhaps, he has no interest in spending time with Daddy.

  34. 34.

    jl

    October 28, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    Not watching the clip of Jughead and Betty right now. I have to look up on the internet what happens if you laugh hysterically and throw up at the same time. What goofs. Like what, Pelosi and Soros paid all those people to chant? Their take is idiotic.

    Like maybe they might consider that the fact that baseball fans of all colors, ages and income brackets would boo Trump and (rightly, and in accordance with available evidence, IMHO) chant ‘Lock him up!’, means something about the popular mood in the country? But if you live in GOP and corporate flunky world long enough, democracy run by ordinary people who can think for themselves and have agency becomes a concept beyond all imagination.

  35. 35.

    Mary G

    October 28, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    And the same people complaining about lack of civility today would have been knocking MLK and the civil rights movement for blocking the bridge to Selma. “We understand and support you, but people have to get to work, can’t you stay on the sidewalk?” The letter from the Birmingham jail answered this:

    The goal of nonviolent direct action, he wrote, was “to create such a crisis and establish such creative tension that a community that has consistently refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue.”

    From an LATimes column by Michael Hitzlik about why the lady who threw SHS out of her restaurant had a right to do it.

  36. 36.

    hueyplong

    October 28, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    @Elizabelle: If Trump took his cell phone the Russians were there.

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    October 28, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    @jl: FWIW, John Legend and Chrissy Teigen like what she’s saying.

    WaPost: John Legend and Chrissy Teigen endorse Elizabeth Warren: ‘She’s the best candidate running today’

    … The couple revealed their support for Warren in a Vanity Fair cover article published online Monday.

    “My favorite — I’m going to say it, we’ll break news today — is Elizabeth Warren,” Legend said. “She’s the best candidate running today and she comes at it with joy and with sincerity and with a wealth of knowledge and experience.”

    Teigen echoed him.

    “I love Elizabeth Warren,” Teigen said. “I also love Kamala D. Harris.”

    Chrissy Teigen is exactly where a lot of us are. We love Elizabeth AND Kamala. May the best woman win, and actually end up in the White House this time.

    How can we get them to be jackals, too?

  38. 38.

    Elizabelle

    October 28, 2019 at 6:51 pm

    @jl:

    Jughead and Betty

    LOL. Thank you.

  39. 39.

    JPL

    October 28, 2019 at 6:51 pm

    @Elizabelle: If he enjoys baseball, I hope so.

  40. 40.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    October 28, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    Ugh. Leave minor children completely the hell alone.

    Adult Trumps, however, are all fair game for the most uncivil incivility that ever destroyed our civil discourse (which was previously ever so civil).

  41. 41.

    Smedley Darlington Mingobat (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    October 28, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    It’s about fucking time he heard with his own personal ears just what most Americans think of him.

  42. 42.

    NotMax

    October 28, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    Open thread? This contains innate potential to get very out of hand very fast.

    The project is called National Conspiracy Writing Month, an unofficial spinoff of the long-running National Novel Writing Month (or NaNoWriMo) challenge. Where NaNoWriMo requires participants to write a 50,000-word novel, the inaugural NaCoWriMo asks them to produce a “deep, viable, and complete conspiracy theory.” Its creator Tim Hwang hopes these fake plots can illuminate a pervasive cultural phenomenon — helping both participants and spectators understand how conspiracy theories emerge. He just hopes people don’t take them too seriously. Source

  43. 43.

    emjayay

    October 28, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    @NotMax: So, he’s gay?

  44. 44.

    Gelfling 545

    October 28, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    The world needed to hear it. Knowing that many of us reject him and all his works might make it slightly more possible to restore trust when he’s finally kicked to the curb.

  45. 45.

    debbie

    October 28, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    The reception must have really shaken Trump. No rage tweeting, mostly retweets of the few who love him.

  46. 46.

    J R in WV

    October 28, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Pretty sure they are all Russians, at least by payroll data, all Russians. How else could every decision made by Trump favor Russia, unless he and all his cohorts were Russian through and thru??

    Also, Barron, last offspring of the Trump, may or may not want to see a baseball game, with or without his father. Given what we know about Barron and Trump perhaps he is lucky to not want to go to a baseball game with his father?!

  47. 47.

    Elizabelle

    October 28, 2019 at 6:56 pm

    @NotMax: That sounds like a horrible idea.

    Out to see a scary movie. Happy beginning of Halloween week, jackals.

  48. 48.

    jl

    October 28, 2019 at 6:56 pm

    @Elizabelle: Kind of insulting to Betty, though. I apologize.
    But Veronica a a brunette, and that comparison would a little insulting to Veronica too.

  49. 49.

    Jeffro

    October 28, 2019 at 6:58 pm

    @Elizabelle: Just tweet at them, and often. They’ll respond eventually (but then again so will all the RWNJ trolls…never mind)

    Send them a postcard? It worked for me and Lin-Manuel! ;)

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    October 28, 2019 at 6:58 pm

    @debbie:
    Clever Donny was outsmarted by Actual Donny. If the whole “I’ve known about the raid for two weeks” thing is true, then he finagled the WS appearance knowing the raid would have taken place the night before and he would receive the warm adulation of a grateful nation in real time for having his enemy “die like a dog.”

    Funny, how things work out.

  51. 51.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 6:59 pm

    It’s patently obvious that 45 is a horrible parent, viz. the Fredos and Ivanka. That said, I think it’s misguided to criticize him for Barron not being at the game. 45 doesn’t appear to have much if anything to do with the child, but Barron might not like baseball, he might not like crowds, he might not like being with his father. We’re not privy to that information, which is exactly as it should be.

  52. 52.

    JPL

    October 28, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    @emjayay: no funny..

  53. 53.

    Sally

    October 28, 2019 at 7:02 pm

    This is an answer to Aleta in the dead thread below. In case anyone is interested.
    @Aleta: When an EOD dog detects explosives she is trained to lie down wherever she is. This is to spread the weight so as not to trigger an explosion, to indicate where the explosive device is, and to not move until a handler can determine a safe extraction (for the dog). The dogs are very smart, highly trained and have fabulous personalities.

  54. 54.

    different-church-lady

    October 28, 2019 at 7:03 pm

    You know what’s really worrying the pundits? The creeping realization that they’ve lost control of the narrative.

  55. 55.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    October 28, 2019 at 7:03 pm

    @emjayay: Offensive comment there.

  56. 56.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    @Sally: Thank you for that information. Dogs are amazing.

  57. 57.

    JPL

    October 28, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: If trump thought his son being at the game could improve his poll numbers, he’d do it. The fact that he wasn’t there is good.
    Now for my snaky side, I heard that there is a reason that trump said vaccines cause autism..

  58. 58.

    debbie

    October 28, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Kelly was right when he told Trump he really needed to hire a COS who wasn’t a yes man.

  59. 59.

    JPL

    October 28, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    @debbie: You mean Kelly the guy who supporter his boss’s racist antics..that one.

  60. 60.

    different-church-lady

    October 28, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    pretty sure I saw folks at LGM discussing Barron being on the spectrum, and thus ther’s a legit reason to not bring him.

    Additionally, it’s a stupidly petty point to make while watching an enemy make an entire day of mistakes.

  61. 61.

    Anne Laurie

    October 28, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    As someone noted on Twitter what kind of an asshole parent doesn’t take his Kid (Barron) to a baseball game given the chance?

    To be fair, I personally think the less time Barron spends around his father, the better for him (& his future associates; look at Tiffany vs Ivanka).

    Also, since it seems like Barron is being raised mostly by his mother/mother’s parents, he may be more interested in soccer than baseball, yes?

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    October 28, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    @Elizabelle

    I no longer go to the movie theater (acute allergic reaction to something in the multiplex here) but shall definitely be keeping an eye out for this one to show up on streaming. (Additional trailer.)

    Anyone seen it yet?

  63. 63.

    debbie

    October 28, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    @JPL:

    Yep, him. Even clocks are right two times a day (or whatever the saying is).

  64. 64.

    VeniceRiley

    October 28, 2019 at 7:06 pm

    My NaCoWriMo would be that Melania is the actual Russian operative that is Trump’s full time handler. Oh, and Barron thinks baseball and golf are lame.

    Back from 2 week vacation – my new UK GF came here. Took her to the beaches, malls for shopping and movies, Disneyland, and laid out by the pool. Almost zero politics or news and I’ve never been happier. Boy, did that ever tell me plenty of something!

  65. 65.

    Sebastian

    October 28, 2019 at 7:08 pm

    I think it might not be a bad idea to contact MJ’s advertisers and complain about his and Mika’s Un-Americaness.

    Like AL and many other commenters already said, labeling a BASEBALL CROWD as Un-American is beyond the pale.

  66. 66.

    NotMax

    October 28, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    @emjayjay

    Will give you the benefit of the doubt that you were trying to make a funny, however that is offensive on more levels than I have fingers.

  67. 67.

    danielx

    October 28, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    @hells littlest angel:

    “I want the whole stadium arrested!”

  68. 68.

    Anne Laurie

    October 28, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    @Mary G:

    And if the military didn’t want the dog’s name declassified, why was it OK for the infant in the Oval Office to declassify the dog’s picture so he can put it on Twitter? Isn’t the same far-fetched risk involved?

    What I’ve seen is that knowing the dog’s name would allow people to learn the handler’s name, which would show which Delta team was involved in the raid. Somewhat less likely, I think, that someone can trace a particular purebred dog through its picture — image recognition is a growth area, but that’s pretty exquisite discrimination. (Yes, I am saying that all fit adult working Malinois in ‘uniform’ look… pretty much the same. At least if you’re not a professional dog show judge or Malinois breeder.)

  69. 69.

    debbie

    October 28, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    Very surprised that all the tough guys who attacked a little girl for speaking out about climate change are crying about the president being booed at a baseball game.— The Volatile Mermaid (@OhNoSheTwitnt) October 28, 2019

  70. 70.

    Mary G

    October 28, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    @Sally: Wow, thank you I would never have thought of that, it’s brilliant. It’s always a bit concerning to think that we put military dogs in danger, and there have been a number of them reported KIA. Nice to know they have developed procedures to mitigate that. I know the dogs are bred to love to work.

  71. 71.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    @JPL: My spouse (currently) and I (formerly) have worked with individuals with disabilities, including autism. Barron’s affect in his few public appearances suggest that he might be somewhere on the spectrum. 45’s focus on vaccinations as a (false) cause neglects inconvenient evidence that advanced paternal age at conception is associated with higher odds for autism. Not conclusively proven yet, but studies point in that direction.

  72. 72.

    debbie

    October 28, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    And back to MJ:

    Ah I see Joe and Mika have decided to hold a stadium full of baseball fans to a higher standard than the president of the United States.— The Volatile Mermaid (@OhNoSheTwitnt) October 28, 2019

  73. 73.

    japa21

    October 28, 2019 at 7:14 pm

    Just read where al-Baghdadi’s remains were given the same treatment as bin Laden’s. Burial at sea with full rites. Why do I think Trump was not aware that would happen?

    I remember all the howling at Obama when bin Laden’s remains were given that ritual send-off.

  74. 74.

    JPL

    October 28, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    So twitter is saying that the trump’s handed out candy to the trick or treaters for thirty minutes and they entered with the Addam’s Family theme song in the background.

  75. 75.

    different-church-lady

    October 28, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    @debbie: There it is: this month’s internets won.

  76. 76.

    Mary G

    October 28, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    “President Trump veered from topic to topic like a squirrel caught in traffic, dashing one way and then another.” https://t.co/dpMORVwOGq— Tamara Cofman Wittes (@tcwittes) October 28, 2019

    From the book of the guy who worked for Mattis. This is a grave insult to squirrels.

  77. 77.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 7:19 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    You know what’s really worrying the pundits? The creeping realization that they’ve lost control of the narrative.

    From your keyboard to your deity of choice’s ears.

  78. 78.

    jl

    October 28, 2019 at 7:21 pm

    It belatedly occurred to me that it’s kind of a tradition for sports fans to boo politicians at games, even popular ones. So, we need a way to calculate how much more Trump got booed than the average politician gets booed. Anyone do that? We should do that before we declare the whole stadium guilty of treason and deal with them the way we used to do.

  79. 79.

    JPL

    October 28, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: Rather than just helping his son, the narcissist would rather blame someone else.

  80. 80.

    Yutsano

    October 28, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    @emjayay: Oh dear. Does this mean I have to abandon my decades of Mariners fandom just because I happen to be on the queer spectrum? Nah. I’m not going to fit into your ridiculous stereotypes nym I have never seen bore and most likely never will again. I can’t believe I’m wasting the electrons on you. But…here we all are anyway.

    Shorter me: troll somewhere else.

  81. 81.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 7:24 pm

    @jl: I think it’s enough to know that Trump got booed bigly. Tremendous boos. The best boos.

  82. 82.

    hueyplong

    October 28, 2019 at 7:25 pm

    The RWNJs I know take a lot of comfort in their assumption that all true American sports fans are RWNJs like themselves.

    Just another level on which last night worked for me. Probably too much to ask for this to happen at an NFL game.

  83. 83.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 7:26 pm

    @JPL: For sure. Narcissists (which I know up close and personal) are only and always about themselves. Other people exist solely to prop the narcissist up. And if those people – whether children or adults – don’t perform that function, they’re attacked and/or abandoned. It’s always a one-way transaction.

  84. 84.

    jl

    October 28, 2019 at 7:27 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: Thanks. I didn’t know that they had to Bigly Boo meter turned on. OK, then, the ordinary ‘lesser’ people of these great United States should be ashamed of themselves for expressing their opinion, just as they are usually told by their betters.

  85. 85.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 28, 2019 at 7:27 pm

    It appears Cinderblock got caught cheating a little during her weigh-in

  86. 86.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 28, 2019 at 7:27 pm

    WWII vet protests trump

    John Nichols @ NicholsUprising

    I am ? percent with this guy!

    #ChicagoTrumpProtest

    anybody seen numbers on the crowd size?

  87. 87.

    NotMax

    October 28, 2019 at 7:29 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa

    Pace Ray Stevens:

    Everything is bootiful
    In its own way

    ;)

  88. 88.

    Sally

    October 28, 2019 at 7:29 pm

    @Mary G: The handlers, in fact the entire squads, adore their dogs and are directed not to risk their lives to save their dogs, but …. the dogs are colleagues.

  89. 89.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    October 28, 2019 at 7:30 pm

    @jl: @O. Felix Culpa: Trump established a new record! 100 dB is the mark to beat.

    And seriously, jackals, the only argument for civility or decency I will make is that we should not be speculating about the physical/mental health, appearance, development, or family situation of minor children.

  90. 90.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: Point taken. :)

  91. 91.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 28, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: he triggered some snowflakes

    Replying to @NicholsUprising
    What a shame I am so sure this man in the wheel chair has no idea what the sign says. He has to deal with his leftist family to take care of him.

    Andre Gonya AndreGonya
    BINGO! No way he wrote that sign. I have notified the authorities in Chicago so that they can investigate elder abuse.

    I’m just imagining the Chicago cop taking that call. Won’t even put down their sudoko pen

  92. 92.

    artem1s

    October 28, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    I’m wondering how all the pearl clutchers knew that the crowd meant Donnie and not Joe Biden’s son? How did they know that the crowd wasn’t heaping praise on Donnie for uncovering the Biden’s evil schemes?

    Because this is the world we live in I feel the need to point out this is snark. O_o

  93. 93.

    NotMax

    October 28, 2019 at 7:33 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    What about those being held in cages?

  94. 94.

    Cacti

    October 28, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    Joe Scarborough and Nate Silver can jump up each other’s asses.

    Chris Coons needs to stop rolling over and showing his belly to the fascists.

  95. 95.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    October 28, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    @NotMax: JFC. The operative word there was “speculating.” When we can see abuse, it’s not speculating. Or were you suggesting we should visually screen those kids for signs of being on the spectrum or possession of asshole parents before we decide to award them sympathy or not?

  96. 96.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 28, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    Jason Johnson @ DrJasonJohnson
    2h2 hours ago
    Over the last week hours I’ve had several unaffiliated black women in politics tell me they’re liking or taking a look amyklobuchar – Not sure where this is coming from but I wouldn’t be surprised if she had a slight poll bump coming

    Make politics boring again!

  97. 97.

    Cacti

    October 28, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Oh dear. Does this mean I have to abandon my decades of Mariners fandom just because I happen to be on the queer spectrum?

    Speaking of the M’s. Now that the Nats/Expos franchise made the World Series, guess who the only remaining MLB franchise is to never make it there? :-( 43 seasons and counting.

  98. 98.

    NotMax

    October 28, 2019 at 7:40 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    Merely pointing out it’s far from a hard and fast rule.

  99. 99.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 28, 2019 at 7:40 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Boring sounds good. I’d be eternally grateful for boring.

  100. 100.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 28, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: me too, actually. I would very happily vote for Klobuchar.
    I think it’s Bennet who says, if I’m elected I promise you can go a week at a time without thinking about me

  101. 101.

    Chris T.

    October 28, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Barbara can come scold me all she wants, but put me on record saying Joe and Mika are bimbos twats.

    We need some more words…

    wastrels

    lice (or ticks) upon the body politic

    cretins

    mooncalves

    … need some more here…

  102. 102.

    japa21

    October 28, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Agree as well. Mrs. Japa really likes Klobuchar and would happily vote for her.

    BTW: Read your short story. Really enjoyed it. Never asked my grandson if he read your book we got him last year. I’ll have to remember to do so. He tends, like a lot of grandchildren, not to mention things, even if he really enjoyed them, unless prodded.

  103. 103.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I would be ok with Klobuchar. Not happy as in turning cartwheels, but we could do and currently have much, much worse.

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 28, 2019 at 7:48 pm

    @Chris T.: lice (or ticks) upon the body politic

    polity lice? I like mooncalves, even though I have no freakin idea what it means

  105. 105.

    jl

    October 28, 2019 at 7:49 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ” I think it’s Bennet who says, if I’m elected I promise you can go a week at a time without thinking about me ”

    We now have a president who’s gone almost three years without thinking about any of us.
    Quite a contrast

  106. 106.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 28, 2019 at 7:53 pm

    @japa21: I hope he enjoyed it, but if he didn’t, that’s ok too. Not all books are for all readers.

    Glad you liked the story.

  107. 107.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 28, 2019 at 7:55 pm

    @J R in WV: OT: Re your question about oval star movement in the morning thread, it’s the fisheye lens.

  108. 108.

    Millard Filmore

    October 28, 2019 at 7:55 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    all fit adult working Malinois in ‘uniform’ look… pretty much the same.

    Are these dogs trained in Dutch, as John Reese in Person Of Interest claimed?

  109. 109.

    Jeffro

    October 28, 2019 at 7:57 pm

    @debbie: that’s an excellent take.

    @debbie: ok that one is even better.

    The whole country, not just the both-sides media, needs a serious dose of Wake the F*** Up.

    The GOP has been working the refs so hard, for so long, that nobody anywhere remembers what the game was like before trumpublican Calvinball took over. 17-point touchdowns if you’re on the Heartland Elephants team? Immunity from penalties after the first two minutes when you’re a Wingnut Warrior? Today’s “playing field” sure looks a lot like that…

  110. 110.

    japa21

    October 28, 2019 at 7:59 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Hope you enjoy your cruise. IIRC, you’re going to be spending a lot of time on the open ocean without stops. When Mrs. Japa and I took a cruise of Hawai’i when departed from and returned to San Diego, so 5 days pure sailing each way. Total relaxation time. Fully ready for the hecticness when we hit the ports and took our excursions and then decompression time coming back. Other than a few days with bad weather and high seas, it went fine. The high seas did, of course, ruin our anniversary dinner. Didn’t impact me, but Mrs. Japa, even with the patches, suffered seasickness, though not as bad as some passengers.

    May I ask which line you are going on?

  111. 111.

    Evil_Paul

    October 28, 2019 at 7:59 pm

    It just hit me: Trump was trying to recreate Obama’s triumph at the Washington Correspondent’s Dinner!
    Think about it: Trump had been dogging Obama for months with his Birtherism bullshit. Then, within a matter of days, Obama releases his long-form birth certificate, oversees the raid that killed Bin Laden, then rolls out to the WCD to crack jokes at Trump (who was in the audience and looked like he was one breath away from a tantrum).
    That bloated orange gas-bag must have thought that if a “mere” black man could do it, then he could do it better. Maybe he expected such a rousing round of applause that there’d be a game delay or something. Thing is, you can’t fake class. When Obama announced the death of bin Laden, he did it with somber gravitas. When Trump announced the death of Abu-Bakr al-Bagdadi, he handled it like a WWE wrestling spot.
    I mean, I’m not shedding a fucking tear for al-Bagdadi. I’ll same my pity for his victims (including those children he apparently took with him). But the difference between between Obama and Trump is the difference between justice and revenge. Justice may not give you satisfaction, and you may think you want revenge. But truly getting revenge will probably leave you feeling a bit sick inside.

  112. 112.

    The Lodger

    October 28, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    @NotMax: Computer viruses started out as a proof of concept, too.

  113. 113.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    @Chris T.: Some good old English insults at this link.

    I particularly like bespawler, cumberworld, fopdoodle, gillie-wet-foot, and loiter-sack.

  114. 114.

    tokyokie

    October 28, 2019 at 8:01 pm

    @NotMax: I saw Parasite Friday night. It’s the best new movie I’ve seen in several years, even taking into consideration my soft spot for Korean movies. The only negative reviews I saw on Rotten Tomatoes were a couple from commentators who seemed put off by its class consciousness.

  115. 115.

    TomatoQueen

    October 28, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: The kid has been seen in full Arsenal replica kit, so possibly a baseball game might not appeal to him. Or, considering how rarely this child is seen in public, there may be a deliberate ongoing effort to keep him out of the public eye.

  116. 116.

    Steeplejack

    October 28, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    @randy khan:

    Anecdatum on ticket prices and audience: Occasionally I stop in at the Dogfish Head Alehouse near me for a burger and a pint at the bar. Guy sitting next to me a couple of Fridays ago was a regular dude, 30-ish African-American, works at an Amazon warehouse. Got a ticket to Game 4 for $700 and was totally psycbed about going. Probably not a Trump fan, from his demographic, but also not a rich coastal elite fat cat or “fancypants rich people,” in your phrase.

  117. 117.

    jl

    October 28, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: I’m a fan of flaccid bull’s pizzle. It’s in Shakespeare, so not only civil, but very high toned and cultured.

  118. 118.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 28, 2019 at 8:12 pm

    @japa21: Viking. We’ve taken river cruises with them but never an ocean one. I’m loading up my kindle and planning to take my exercise clothes. I’m looking forward to slowing down and vegetating.

  119. 119.

    snoey

    October 28, 2019 at 8:13 pm

    @The Lodger: Didn’t talk.origins ultimately decide that awarding Loki points was too dangerous?

  120. 120.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 28, 2019 at 8:14 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    1. LUBBERWORT
    In the 16th century, lubberwort was the name of an imaginary plant that was supposed to cause sluggishness or stupidity, and ultimately came to be used as a nickname for a lethargic, fuzzy-minded person.

  121. 121.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 8:15 pm

    @jl:

    flaccid bull’s pizzle

    One of the best high toned and cultured insults, and fitting to boot – although more in concept than in size.

  122. 122.

    BobS

    October 28, 2019 at 8:16 pm

    I’m starting to think we’re going to look back on yesterday as a watershed moment, of sorts. I think what happened in Syria was orchestrated to immediately precede Trump’s appearance in front of an atypically non-handpicked crowd that would (presumably) shower him with accolades. However, not only did they throw a curveball (obligatory baseball reference) with the boos, a crowd of ordinary Americans essentially told the emperor he had no clothes with the shouts of “Lock him up!”
    This seems to have energized a lot of people on our side- if we’re smart, we’ll be using that until November of next year.

  123. 123.

    Ladyraxterinok

    October 28, 2019 at 8:16 pm

    @hells littlest angel:
    Excellent point—he is so losing the dictator realm!!

  124. 124.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 28, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    LUBBERWORT

    Also excellent. English is a wondrously rich language.

  125. 125.

    sukabi

    October 28, 2019 at 8:23 pm

    @Dan B: pretty sure they do understand the misery and fear drumpf is causing in those communities, it’s that they DON’T CARE. As long as they’re not inconvenienced or made uncomfortable it doesn’t even enter their minds.

  126. 126.

    Ladyraxterinok

    October 28, 2019 at 8:26 pm

    @DCrefugee:
    Esp when at the same time a dem Rep in a somewhat similar position was endlessly castigated and dissected by media for months. I only heard about Joe’s dead intern a long time afterward in some blog post. As far as I recall he and intern were never mentioned on TV. And in that period I watched LOTS of political tv!

  127. 127.

    Josie

    October 28, 2019 at 8:32 pm

    @BobS:

    From your lips to FSM’s ears!

  128. 128.

    The Lodger

    October 28, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    @Ladyraxterinok: As I recall Scarborough’s scandal was Dead Girl and Hastert’s was Live Boy.

  129. 129.

    The Lodger

    October 28, 2019 at 8:36 pm

    @snoey: What’s a Loki point?

  130. 130.

    Ladyraxterinok

    October 28, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    @jl:
    Annnd—hangs out with communists, real father a notorious black communist who also trained him whilr he was growing up in Hawaii, his step father was a Muslim!!, mother of ill repute because honestly what nice white girl at the time he was conceived dated blacks!?

  131. 131.

    dww44

    October 28, 2019 at 8:45 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I saw Chris Coons condemning the “lock him up chants ” as a lack of respect of the office of the Presidency. on Chris Hayes’ show. Hayes gently disagreed with Coons by saying that it was a satirical response.

    Earlier there was also Michael Beschloss and someone whose name and face elude me, saying on Chris Mathews that the booing was okay, but the “lock him up was not good.” I honestly do not see why they have such a problem when Trump himself was voted into office saying nasty things about most of us Americans and hasn’t stopped since then. IMO, he reaped what he sowed. And it did my hear good to hear the chants.

  132. 132.

    Zinsky

    October 28, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    Those Republicans can dish it out but they sure can’t take it, can they? Snowflakes…

  133. 133.

    snoey

    October 28, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    @The Lodger: Creating a ridiculous reason to believe in creationism, and getting a real creationist to cite it.

  134. 134.

    jonathan w fine

    October 28, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    according to the pundit class denizen’s of flyover dinner’s are real american’s baseball fans not so much

  135. 135.

    Ladyraxterinok

    October 28, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    @NotMax:
    Don’t some claim the Q conspiracy was started as a joke??

  136. 136.

    J R in WV

    October 28, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Re your question about oval star movement in the morning thread, it’s the fisheye lens.

    Ah, OK makes sense. Lenses are important, the first thing the light hits on the way to making an image.

    Thanks! I learn something(s) every day here on B-J>!

    Now I gotta go feed the furry babes.

  137. 137.

    BroD

    October 28, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    @japa21:
    Exactly!

  138. 138.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 28, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    I’d like to add Joejoe getting punched in the groin in addition to Hillary caving in both sides of Chuckles Todd’s bothsiderist bullshit face.

    “We are Americans and we do not do that.” Oh fuck off to Mother Russia already Joejoe if you hate the US Constitution.

  139. 139.

    Uncle Cosmo

    October 28, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Barron might not like baseball, he might not like crowds, he might not like being with his father.

    Or he might just not like having to wear a suit to a baseball game.

  140. 140.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 28, 2019 at 9:22 pm

    also, that this got about as much attention as Ross Douthat’s thoughts on the miniskirt (or whatever the fuck that squirrelly little fuck is babbling about lately) can only be blamed on the American people

    Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President
    If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.
    By William H. McRaven
    Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command.

  141. 141.

    Ladyraxterinok

    October 28, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    @The Lodger:
    The dem Rep was from CA I think. The young woman working for him disappeared. There were weeks of speculation—did he date her, stalk her, have relations with her? And then her body was found somewhere. More weeks of did he kill her?will he be arrested? Ad infinitum. After many months of sad parents, serious-voiced pundit,etc, etc the story finally died out

  142. 142.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 28, 2019 at 9:57 pm

    @Ladyraxterinok: two different cases, Chandra Levy was found dead in a DC park and it was later revealed she had been having an affair with the married Rep Gary Condit, who had nothing to do with her death.

    Scarborough’s case was a young woman who died, IIRC of natural causes, in his district office. Scarborough had recently announced his marriage was ending and people said it was because he was cheating (maybe with the woman he left for Mika?) and a lot of rumors spread about the intern

  143. 143.

    cain

    October 28, 2019 at 10:01 pm

    @jl:

    @Elizabelle: Now that Sanders is, at least in national polls, a very definite third, the powers that be don’t have to pretend that Warren would be a progressive that they could work with. So, they are throwing whatever have baked spaghetti, or mud, or something else, against the wall, to see what sticks.

    I find it funny that a man who got an actual heart attack doesn’t get much press afterwards but there was wall to wall coverage for Hillary for just a fainting.

  144. 144.

    Dan B

    October 28, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    @sukabi: My in-laws have a similar country club attitude. You would be better off if you were better mannered. At least uou would be as well off as you deserve. Never mind that my family was 100% college grads, except me the gay boy who got kicked out. And we were friends with old money millionaires and billionaires. We knew polite behavior and when to let er rip when it was tiresome for everyone.

    And I was accepted into their social circles despite being without all the credentials and medals. I did great work. I even got my in laws out of big trouble with the state with a plan to restore 150 feet of shoreline they had cleared.

    I have a vision of Molly Ivins in the Nat’s stadium hooting and hollering. Now if I could get Ms. Ivins to hoot and holler in dark of night at the in laws that would make life complete.

  145. 145.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    October 29, 2019 at 5:03 am

    Dump really thought he would receive cheer.

    Sad!

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