This was just about perfect in my eyes, as your resident cooking host.
I can't wait to try out these recipes. Thanks for making this birthday so incredibly special. pic.twitter.com/F7R0npJM3G
— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) October 21, 2019
And you guys, I walked into the house after a meeting and flipped to MSNBC to hear Soon-To-Be-Impeached-In-Chief completely meltdown. I was in the kitchen and had to go back and rewind because he said some crazy assed stuff about a conversation with Obama/N. Korea that bordered on fanfic. And he looks horrible.
Anyway, open thread.
patroclus
I wonder what the Federalist Society members think about that “phony emoluments clause.” Aren’t they supposed to be “originalists” or “textualists?”
MattF
I’m reading lots of strange quotes on the Twitter. Like dissing the ‘phoney Emoluments clause’. Not amusing, actually.
Ben Cisco
@patroclus: They are whatever white supremacy requires them to be.
Betty Cracker
Just saw a couple of clips from the cabinet meeting / scream therapy session. The LA Times summed it up well:
71 minutes of listening to that sweaty orange gasbag brag about how rich he is and piss and moan about how unfairly he’s treated! Every single member of that cabinet should have been squirming with shame for having associated themselves with such a petulant, incompetent pile of garbage, but I’m sure they were all silently telling themselves what patriots they are.
hueyplong
Trump’s last words will probably include a negative reference to Obama
A well-timed comment on TV could easily stroke him out.
This is how Obama has failed you today
Jim, Foolish Literalist
sounds like he put on quite a show
my siblings and I used to do stuff like that to each other at the dinner table, say around age 12
Martin
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ok, but let’s be fair here. Acting like a 12 year old is a big improvement for him.
Marcopolo
@Betty Cracker: As HRC says in the quote down thread, “There is no work getting done.” In a normal administration a cabinet meeting would be the place were folks would talk about what they were doing. What is getting done. What is coming up that needs to be acted on. How they are working for the American people and improving our lives. Instead we get this bullshit ranty insanity and when it isn’t this crap then it is going around the table so all the lickspittles can pay obeisance to dear leader.
Anyways, I am off to go grocery shopping. Happy Bday KH!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Martin: He’s a big boy today!
geg6
Josh Marshall has compiled a short list of crazy shit that asshole was rambling and ranting about at the presser or whatever it was. Might be the nuttiest shit he’s ever spewed.
Jesus, I can’t believe I’m living this nightmare.
geg6
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I’m sure the Army, Marines and Special Forces will be surprised to hear that.
Martin
Someone should do a deepfake showing Obama saying Trump stuff and Trump saying Obama stuff, just to see how jarring it would be.
rikyrah
@Ben Cisco:
Kapow.
Mike in NC
Fat Bastard once said something about knowing everything he ever needed to know around age 7.
rikyrah
I know that there are fans here:
The Crown series three trailer is accidentally released early by Netflix in epic blunder… and it teases Monarch’s darkest time on the throne yet
Netflix Japan accidentally released The Crown series three trailer on Sunday
The Crown series three is set to return on November 17
Olivia Colman and Tobias Menzies replace Claire Foy and Matt Smith as Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip
Her Majesty will face her darkest time on the throne yet during the 1970s
The trailer shows her questioning her role as Monarch as she battles the miners’ strike, national security and family conflict ahead of her 1977 Silver Jubilee
By CONNIE RUSK FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 07:02 EDT, 21 October 2019 | UPDATED: 09:05 EDT, 21 October 2019
germy
I had to watch the footage to believe it.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mike in NC: money comes from dad
TeeVee good
MattF
I’m getting clickbait now, ‘41 things you never knew about Captain Kangaroo’, and… it’s tempting.
dmsilev
@MattF: Fact 42: Captain Kangaroo is in fact the presiding officer of all Presidential impeachment trials.
(the reason the Democrats are stalling the inquiry is that they’re desperately searching for an eligible Lieutenant Kangaroo that they can field-promote)
Another Scott
HBD to Kamala. I’ll have to watch the clip later.
In other news, TheHill:
Poor, poor Bibi. I guess prison is next, eh?
Here’s hoping that Israel has finally turned the corner…
Cheers,
Scott.
jl
Heard in the news this morning that some US troops will stay in Syria, guarding some oilfields that might fall into ISIS hands. And these troops are put into a much more precarious situation before, being squeezed between Turkish, Russian and Syrian forces, regular andor irregular militias, who are on the move, skirmishing and jostling for territory and control in the vacuum of he US pullout.
So, we see brilliant unfolding of Trump’s brilliant plan to ‘bring the troops home’. Net plus 2000 in Saudi Arabia, presumably as some sort of tripwire and because SA is ‘paying for them’ (though apparently no one except WH understands how that works). And troops will stay in Syria, but in much more precarious situation than before. And now US troops are in serving in front line capacity, not as advisers and spotters behind the lines as before.
Utterly disgusting display of Trump’s complete incompetence. So that was the first news I heard this morning.
low-tech cyclist
A belated happy 55th, Sen. Harris!! (Her birthday was yesterday.)
FlipYrWhig
@Marcopolo: Trump doesn’t understand what’s involved in having a job. He sort of plays at Being The Boss, which involves sitting at a table yelling at people. It’s like that famous YouTube video of a little kid who’s holding a phone and can’t use language yet but can mimic the attitudes and tonalities of a phone conversation. He thinks he’s working very hard, because he doesn’t know what work is and has never done it, only pretended, but no one ever let him in on the difference.
oatler.
@dmsilev: Garfield Goose?
FlipYrWhig
@jl:
I think this is just his pea brain extending the idea that since they buy military equipment that he thinks creates millions upon millions of jobs, because he’s stupid, they have *already* paid for an American military presence.
LuciaMia
In other words, a day that ends in a “Y.”
Kay
Why can’t they all do this? A simple admission.
Jess
KH’s bday is 10/20? So is mine! I guess I’ll have to support her now…
Betty Cracker
I hope Senator Harris shares some of those recipes online someday.
@rikyrah: Thank you for sharing that! I am so looking forward to The Crown’s return.
trollhattan
@Another Scott:
Been a long, long time since Yitzhak Rabin.
jl
@Kay: That is nice to see.
But, I’d like to know why if this was such a humongous big world historical story and deserved non-stop coverage and important enough to dominate the headlines during 2016 general election (in addition to Trump’s empty podium, and lectern) that the conclusion is buried in the back pages of the NYT and barely mentioned in the news.
Also, forgot, happy birthday to Kamala Harris, my second favorite Dem primary candidate.
trollhattan
Holy shit! From Lemieux at LGM:
There’s your quiet coup in action. They’re doing it out in the open, with concurrence from on high.
Keith P.
@MattF: is it true he was a pimp? Or was part of an elite assassination squad with Fred Rogers and Bob Ross?
Another Scott
@trollhattan: League of Women Voters in Michigan:
See the original for embedded links.
The decision by the SCOTUS today was exactly as expected. The battle isn’t over. We need to support those who are fighting to protect our voting rights.
Cheers,
Scott.
MattF
@Keith P.: It’s about that pouch.
chopper
@Mike in NC:
“my brain stopped growing at 7 years old” is about the only true thing this fucker’s ever said.
Martin
@jl: Hey guys, good news! Those US bases we bombed? You can move back in! Turkey may still be shelling them, and there might be some Russians you need to evict, but we have no aircover, so the planes won’t be keeping you up at night any longer.
Mnemosyne
Speaking of recipes, I made one of my favorites last night and it was yummy. The last couple of times I’d made it, I tried to adapt it to the Instant Pot, but everything just fell apart, so I went back to the classic skillet preparation.
https://stephanieclairmont.com/one-pot-lemon-chicken/
Cacti
Trump defends comrades Tulski and Jill.
chopper
@Another Scott:
which sucks, cause you just know that if gantz was charged with forming a unity government bibi would have gone out of his way to make it happen. i’m sure of it. very, very sure.
rikyrah
@germy:
He’s still pissed about Doral
cain
@trollhattan:
Thanks for nothing SCOTUS.
Mnemosyne
@FlipYrWhig:
Nah, I’m pretty sure that MBS gave Trump actual money for it. Since Trump believes that he is the United States now, in his mind getting a direct payment for sending mercenaries to Saudi Arabia is A-OK.
rikyrah
@Kay:
would be too much like right
MattF
@Mnemosyne: Glenn Kessler tried to find out what was going on there. Failed.
The Dangerman
Dude ain’t sleeping. He must know his fat ass is for sure getting impeached and there’s a nonzero chance he gets convicted. It isn’t too much higher than zero but there is a small chance he’s getting shown the door.
He’s been nothing but bullshit and bluster for decades and now his bullshit and bluster act is making the hole he is in deeper. A smart man would figure it out but he’s just a sick fuck.
Kay
@jl:
That is insane. Yet. No apology, no admission of error.
Also, as an aside, why don’t they ever ask about voting rights? All these debates and not one question on voting rights.
Kay
A lot of us hate the debates and there’s been some discussion about “taking them away” from major media outlets, but couldn’t Democrats fix this somewhat by just holding additional debates on the topics we never hear?
Voting rights. Wouldn’t that be great? And not so long. One hour. Stream it or whatever.
Ilieitz
Long time lurker delurking.
They should hold the G7 conference at the Overlook Hotel in Estes Park Co. The hotel “really” likes it’s guests and would love for Trump and Boris Johnson come for a visit
JCJ
@oatler.:
Garfield Goose would be an excellent choice, but on this website I would support Dirty Dragon from “BJ and Dirty Dragon.”
I went to a road show they did one time and got a poster of Dirty Dragon saying, “There’s no mail!”
trollhattan
Real Men of Genius, UK edition:
Boris continues to impress with his mastery of the situation.
The Moar You Know
@cain: You’ll be saying that a lot for the next 30 years.
zzyzx
My favorite part about Trump’s meltdown is that he showed that he didn’t even read the relevant text. What about Obama’s book deal? What about the Netflix deal? Even if you assume they happened when he was president (which they didn’t), last I looked neither Random House nor Netflix were foreign governments:
And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
Kay
The voting rights debate (I’m imagining) could be like the prototype for better debates. Subject matter experts would ask the questions, but lively ones, it’s a lot of case law and rules and it can’t be boring. Just try it. See how it goes.
No more than 6 candidates. Top 6. It’s not an “official debate” so we don’t have to follow those rules.
NickM
@rikyrah: The Doral issue will never go away, I think. Trump’s been thwarted and he’ll never let it go. He will book or try to book other functions there – just wait and see.
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
Some variations on lemon chicken for the Instant Pot: #1 – #2 – #3
Although not mentioned in some of those, have found placing the chicken on the trivet when making a dish like this helps to keep it from falling apart.
Brachiator
@germy:
Some who interpret the Constitution are “originalists” or “textualists.”
Trump is a fabulist. He just makes shit up.
Kay
And one thing subject matter experts asking the questions would achieve is it would sort out the lightweights. They wouldn’t be able to bluff. They couldn’t just be like “oh, I’m PRO voting rights!” :)
Difficult questions and specific examples- the 2018 Georgia governor’s race or 2016 Milwaukee voter suppression or Shelby County v Holder.
JanieM
@Kay: Do you have a link for that article about the coverage?
rikyrah
????
The non-Hispanic White population of Philly is 34%. Blackfolks, Latinx, & Asians are nearly two-thirds of the population. The leading Democratic candidates are centering Whiteness as usual to the exclusion of everyone else.
— Skeptical Brotha ? (@skepticalbrotha) October 21, 2019
https://twitter.com/skepticalbrotha/status/1186337005262823424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
rikyrah
???
Yerevan Saeed (@YerevanSaeed) Tweeted:
I have gone over 6000 comments made by Kurds in Kurdistan Region on facebook reacting to U.S pullout to Kurdistan Region. I regret to report that all of them are anti-American.
Just unthinkable what Trump did to Kurdish-American friendship by his impulsive and reckless decision. https://twitter.com/YerevanSaeed/status/1186295525584330754?s=17
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Betty Cracker: I’ve said this before, I’ve known very smart people and I’ve known very rich people, and one thing they never do is tell you how smart they are or how rich they are.
rikyrah
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Michigan’s Republican-led Legislature quietly voted last month to gut funding for civil rights discrimination investigations. Gov. Whtimer used a rare transfer power to reverse the diversion to three civil rights museums. https://t.co/H9g3mlfbMx via @BridgeMichigan
— Jonathan Oosting (@jonathanoosting) October 21, 2019
HeleninEire
@Kay: He needs to go one step further and say “and here is how I am going to change.”
jeffreyw
@Kay:
Not a mistake and it worked as intended. They no doubt toasted their success with champagne.
rikyrah
@NickM:
I was very satisfied watching the commentary about Doral. Since I’ve never been a government contractor, I had no idea how extensive and how to the minutia, government contract law is.
This was going to be ACTUAL CONTRACTS. No gray area. No fuzzy area. You go against the contract law, and you are open to being charged with a felony. And, that began with Mulvaney, standing his lying azz up there, talking about the ‘process’ had been gone through. You have to put the process in writing. People must be able to follow the dots. Mulvaney put his azz up there for felonies. Not that I care about him being charged…but, I honestly believe that some attorney stood up on a table and began to shout the laws- explicit, no way around them – laws, that would have been broken with Doral.
SOMEONE was going to have to put their signature and possible freedom on the line to sign those contracts. It’s all fun and games until you risk going to jail.
Marcopolo
@Brachiator: I figure Trump has two more levels to take this:
“Oh, those phony impeachment clauses”
followed by
“Oh, that phony Constitution.”
PJ
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I would say that there is at least one exception to this rule, and that is that sometimes rich people who were once poor or struggling financially want other people to know how rich they are because they have internalized the shame society places on them for their economic status and they want others to know how far they have come.
Years ago I read (it might have been in Bury Me Standing or it might have just been a newspaper article) about Romanies in Europe who had become wealthy, or at least richer, and because they wanted other people (who had looked down on them) to know, they would buy mansions, but leave them empty, and still live in a caravan or trailer in the backyard.
hilts
OT
FUCK Mayor Pete!
Mark Zuckerberg is an arrogant, unrepentant scumbag and Mayor Pete’s decision to take campaign staff recommendations from him should be an automatic disqualification.
h/t https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-campaign-hire-staffers-zuckerberg-recommendation
JoyceH
I’ve started rewatching the West Wing. Yeah, it’s a fantasy, but sometimes it helps to retreat into a fantasy land where smart nice people run the government the best they can. But I’ve notice a difference in my expectations for what WH staffers do. In previous viewings, I’d like to watch all the strategizing and how sometimes it works and sometimes it blows up in their faces. This time I was going “wow, look at those guys knowing the names of Congressmen n stuff!”
gvg
I have been noticing (again) that Trump has never managed to change into doing the job of President. He is still basically just a hotel guy. That’s all he really thinks about…well basking in fans adoration too, but his JOB in his mind is building hotels and booking them. He really just doesn’t understand what the real jobs of the President are. No wonder he didn’t get rid of his businesses, he has his identity tied up in them. If they went away he might vanish in a poof…….I hope we prove fraud and criminal activity in them before he was President so we can confiscate them.
He sure as heck doesn’t understand the President works for us. Is essentially an employee.
FlipYrWhig
@Mnemosyne: I mean, maybe, but he’s extremely stupid and simplistic. I think he has it stuck in his head that Saudi Arabia is a nation that pays America for stuff, so we should do good things for them, and that there are a lot of other free-riding nations that don’t pay America for stuff, so we should tell them to go piss up a rope. I don’t think anything new happened. It’s just that he thinks of them as a valued customer, like a high-roller he’s deciding to comp.
Martin
@Kay: Never forget that the NYT is a New York paper. They knew that Trump was a crook. DC suspected that Hillary was also a crook but never proved it, so the NYT didn’t see a story in Trumps criminality which was well known, but did see a story in Clinton’s criminality that had yet to be proven.
Dog bites man, vs man bites dog. At least from their perspective.
Not an excuse. Just their myopic view of the world.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@PJ: Yes, but they don’t TELL you how rich they are, they SHOW you.
Marcopolo
@NickM: That would fit the pathology of narcissistic behavior. A narcissist can never be wrong so if they are thwarted the will literally move mountains to change actual reality to conform to their fake version of it.
One other thing on the G7 summit: everyone in Trumpworld is bad mouthing Camp David as a possible location—“it just isn’t up to handling an affair like the G7.”
Well, Obama hosted a G8 there in 2012 and it was just fine. The only thing hosting the G7 at Camp David would preclude would be donnyboy being able to grift off the event giving out the contract to someone else in his orbit.
Martin
@FlipYrWhig: Plus SA understanding Trump as a fellow traveler, and handing him cash, which democratic nations couldn’t conceive of doing.
Martin
@Marcopolo: Camp David is unsuitable. No gold toilet for Orangemandias to shit on.
Amir Khalid
@gvg:
I’m also sure that Trump, as compelled to dominate others as he is, simply refuses to grok the concept of “employee”.
rikyrah
@Kay:
The only three people asking questions should be:
Ari Berman
Ms. Ifill
I don’t know first name, but her last name is Clarke, and she routinely posts on the voting rights cases she is fighting.
Mnemosyne
@MattF:
‘Cause the money went straight into Fat Boy’s personal account. I’m calling it now.
Trump wouldn’t even see anything wrong with it. After all, he’s the commander in chief, so they’re his personal troops, right? Of course he would get the payment! It’s like loaning your chauffeur to one of your buddies!
Mandalay
@hilts:
Yep. Now that he’s rising in the polls he’s attracting more scrutiny, and he’s not quite as squeaky clean as his image would suggest. Apart from his new FB friends, there’s this:
Like many other politicians, you can rely on Buttigieg to do the right thing after getting caught.
Joe Falco
@rikyrah:
Add Lani Guinier to that. The Clinton haters would stroke out.
lgerard
I was watching a clip of trump blathering about what a great patriot he is for offering Doral as the site of the next G7, and he dropped this little gem in
It is right next to the airport, Miami International,one of the biggest airports in the world, some people say it is the biggest.
It is not in the top 20 biggest airports in the world
It is not in the top ten biggest airports in the US
It is not even the biggest airport in Florida
Some people say that every word that comes out of his face sphincter is a lie
John Revolta
@Marcopolo:
Give him three, maybe four months.
Mnemosyne
@rikyrah:
Nick’s right, though. Trump is going to try and force through some other shady deal that funnels government money to Doral. He’s a narcissist — he HAS to double down in any area where someone told him “no,” because he can never be wrong in any way, shape, or form. It’s one of his prime directives.
cckids
@jl:
It reminds me (in a bad way) of the Marines in Lebanon in 1983. What was the quote – “If they’re there to make a difference, there aren’t enough of them. If they’re there to send a message, there are way too many”.
Jim Wright at Stonekettle Station calls it a suicide mission. I sincerely hope he’s wrong.
Marcopolo
Anyone else hearing there’s now a national settlement for the opioids lawsuits? Just heard it on NPR.
Brachiator
@Martin:
Not just the New York Times. For all of New York media, Trump was the local boy. You make a good point when you note that they had internalized his years of criminality.
It slightly reminds me of an article I read in Chicago Magazine years ago, about the most powerful people in the city. The article included organized crime figures, as though it was common knowledge and business as usual.
Ella in New Mexico
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Jesus, missed that in all the silly Doral kerflufflty.
We’re only weeks away from him getting a question from a reporter highlighting Barack Obama’s Nobel in his first year and him standing up, yanking down his britches and peeing all over the Oval Office carpet, aren’t we?
MattF
Another quote from That Cabinet Meeting:
WTF???
Another Scott
OpenThread?
Via Nancy at WaMo – HealthAffairs – The Origins And DemiseOf The Public Option (by Helen A. Halpin and Peter Harbage, from June 2010):
Lots more at the link.
I hope Warren (and everyone else serious about a Public Option, M4A, and all the rest) study what we went through before and don’t fall into the same sand traps.
Cheers,
Scott.
Ella in New Mexico
@geg6:
He’s completely unhinged and certifiably unfit as we speak, and he’s proving it behind the scenes to his proppers in the House and Senate. Lindsey met with him over the weekend and I’m thinking he realizes this is a national security emergency that is only a few more meltdown pressers before Putin literally walks in and sits down behind the desk in the Oval, thus the “gentle” walk-back of his criticisms in hopes he can keep a lid on this a bit longer.
Mnemosyne
@cckids:
True story: in 1983, one of my older brothers was in the Marines and had breakfast in that barracks that same morning. Fortunately, he and his friends were back on their ship by the time the bomb went off.
(For those keeping score at home, this is the same brother who died of lung cancer in Florida back in 2015. I suspect he had some chemical or radiation exposure during his service in the Middle East that smoking didn’t help.)
Calouste
@cckids: I wouldn’t be surprised if Erdogan has already instructed a flunky to make up a plausible scenario where the Turkish Air Force “accidentally” does a bombing run on an American base thinking it was ISIS.
Amir Khalid
@lgerard:
Are you going to believe the facts, or the greatest, bigliest, orangest president ever?
rikyrah
@Mnemosyne:
We’re already funneling money to it. Everytime he goes there, and charges the Secret Service. But, that’s the ‘ fuzzy’ part. It’s not fuzzy to me – he’s breaking the Emoluments clause, but, his sycophants can attempt ‘fuzzy’.
The G7 thing was non-fuzzy. An actual contract.
Calouste
@?BillinGlendaleCA: “You don’t talk about money, you have it.”
mrmoshpotato
@hueyplong: As long as we’re cycling through the quote stream up top, “Is our presidents learning?” :)
ETA – You’re probably right. The Orange Asshole is obsessed with he predecessor who was better than him in most ways.*
*Obama wasn’t better at being orange, or a fascist, or an asshole, moron, dumbass, manchild, etc.
Citizen Alan
@Another Scott:
Every single 3rd Party voter who mocked — literally mocked — the idea that judicial appointments should even be a factor in their voting, let alone something of vital importance, should do the honorable thing and kill themselves.
rikyrah
The media’s erasure of Kamala Harris’ candidacy is a case study in misogynoir https://t.co/7vdl9P7cho
— DAME Magazine (@damemagazine) October 21, 2019
laura
@rikyrah: I need her to hang on till the primaries! Her ground game is so strong and she’s a wicked formidable candidate, but these debates have not been great and her press is so negative….it’s almost as though there’s a plan to ghost her…
cckids
@Mnemosyne: Holy smokes, what a near miss. That has to mess with your mind for quite a while.
Miss Bianca
@Jess: Shoot, Kamala is a year younger than I am??
Kathleen
@rikyrah: That was an excellent article.
@laura: I agree with you.
Brachiator
@rikyrah:
Very Interesting story. Thanks
Mike in DC
Harris still has a prayer of winning, though not much more than that. A top 3 finish in Iowa, followed by strong performances in NV and SC, could set her up nicely for Super Tuesday. But her fate is somewhat in the hands of other candidates who may stumble over the next few months.
Miss Bianca
@rikyrah: I know, and I’m pissed about it, too. Far as I’m concerned it’s Warren and Harris first, tje rest nowhere, and I am sick of all the mediocre white guy choices who are sucking up the rest of the O2. Pete, Beto, Joe, Bernie…you can all be over there now, please.
Zelma
@Miss Bianca:
What about Cory? He can’t get any traction. And he’s been excellent in all the debates, when given a chance. He’s a fine speaker, has good experience, has good policies, etc. And there’s Julian. Both of them are better than the “white guys.”
IMHO, the Democrats – all of them – should stop talking about specific policies and start talking about specific problems. American voters aren’t interested in the nuts and bolts of policies. What they want is the sense that the candidate understands what the problems they face in their lives are and is on their side and will do their best to make things better. Getting into the weeds is a mistake.
Jess
@Miss Bianca: Yeah, one year younger than me too. Were you and I born the same day? 10/20/63?