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— Team USA (@TeamUSA) October 5, 2019
Your morning awesomeness.
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Your morning awfulness…
Trump campaign aides on conference call say 37 states have made changes to primary process.
They say it’s not about blocking a GOP Trump challenger.
It’s about helping win the general. They want the GOP convention to be a "4-day television commercial," not an internal debate.
— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) October 7, 2019
Trump’s former ghostwriter:
I have never, ever seen Trump as out of control as he was in today's press conference. It shows up as anger, but underneath he is really terrified.
— Tony Schwartz (@tonyschwartz) October 2, 2019
we have reached the foreclosure sale portion of the trumps presidency
— m i t h (@ManlnTheHoody) October 7, 2019
Trump is basically in suicide by cop mode, impeachment wise.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) October 7, 2019
Yesterday the Trump campaign announced a rally in Louisiana for Friday, which is the day after his rally in Minneapolis, which means two rallies in one week in the midst of all *waves hands around aimlessly* this, so get ready.
— Miriam Elder (@MiriamElder) October 7, 2019
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rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ? ??
CarolDuhart2
Aren’t conventions these days mostly 4-day televised commercials anyway? At least what we see. Sure, there’s other party business we don’t see…but whatever.
Also, if there is dissention, wouldn’t it be better to work it out during the primaries instead of having a third-party challenger?
CarolDuhart2
Good morning back, rikyrah…keeping my fingers crossed each day they keep the football from him.
OzarkHillbilly
Blech.
WereBear
Republicans in disarray!
Though I would say panic mode.
NotMax
The conventions are for hookers what Xmas shopping is for department stores.
NotMax
@WereBear
Yup. “Circle the wagons!” isn’t particularly salutary in the face of a tornado.
Bruce K
Jimmy Carter was not America’s best President – I suspect even he would agree – but on his worst day, he was still a better President than Trump has ever been.
And to reiterate, Carter’s the best human being to occupy the Oval Office since Abraham Lincoln. (Trump’s been in competition with Andrew Jackson for the worst, as far as I can tell, but I think the past couple of weeks have been decisive in that regard.)
TS (the original)
Trump has been campaigning since the day after he was elected. It’s what he likes to do – preach to the deplorables – while he burns down the US and the world
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: Too bad they only happen once every 4 years. What they need is a union.
ET
Two rallies in one week hmmm. I take this to mean his aides know he needs a distraction as well as the ego stroking he gets from some amount of his brain dead/conned fanatics responding to his various verbal tics.
NotMax
@OzarkHillbilly
Steve in the Carmen Sandiego champing at the bit to negotiate?
:)
Amir Khalid
@TS (the original):
Campaign rallies are all about him being a star in front of adoring fans. They’re pretty much the only part of politics that Trump likes and is good at. That whole serving in office thing is too much like real work for him.
mrmoshpotato
@WereBear: How about Republicans in disarrayed panic mode?
You’re the panicking! Sad!
OzarkHillbilly
@ET: His aides know he’s falling apart and the only way to keep him within striking distance of sanity is to put him in front of the shrinking crowds who truly appreciate his great and unmatched wisdom.
Betty Cracker
@Amir Khalid: True. The one thing Trump seems to enjoy about being a politician is marinating in the adulation of angry, mean and stupid people. The rallies aren’t intended to build support for any particular policy; he just sneers at perceived enemies and reviews his endless list of grievances. Someday, if the republic survives, students will study video of the Trump hate rallies to learn about demagoguery.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: What if the wagons are circling so quickly, they’re causing the tornado?
Tornado strength: Oregon Trail
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
Maybe not this week, maybe not next week, but soon we’ll be witness to the 21st century version of Khrushchev pounding his shoe on the desk.
TS (the original)
@Amir Khalid: I would like to know how many of the adoring fans at any rally are also the adoring fans at any other rally. I am quite sure the base core following him around the country.
NotMax
@TS (the original)
Braindeadheads.
Kay
Not bad! I’ll take 60% :)
mrmoshpotato
@Betty Cracker:
Well, someone missed all his detailed plan layouts of rapist Mexicans, banned Muslims and “We want wall!” in 2016!
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: He’ll do the work for tips.
(sorry steve, but notmax opened the door, I just walked thru it)
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: And then all the reporters will throw their shoes at trump?
Kay
Imagine how bad Trump’s tax returns are, that they have gone to such enormous lengths to conceal them.
His supporters wouldn’t care anyway, and every elected GOP’er would support him no matter what he says or does, so they are that bad, that they would reflect more poorly on Donald Trump than everything we already know does.
Cosmo
It’s Sally and Whoopi at the Paramus Mall in Soapdish time again.
satby
@NotMax: a lot of his “adoring audience” is made up of people who get paid to be there.
The conservatives I know on FB have not engaged in any of the multiple posts I’ve done on the traitor’s treasonous behavior, so I went lurking to see what they’re saying among themselves. Originally, it was that the Dems were investigating because they were jealous he “won” the last election and was going to win again, now crickets. So far.
mrmoshpotato
@Kay:
Narrator: In hindsight, it really was a bad idea to put “Money laundering mobster” in the Occupation box and not convert to US dollars from rubles.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: “If he has nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear.”
Jinchi
@CarolDuhart2:
Yes.
The only way the Republican convention isn’t a 4-day commercial is if any of Trump’s rivals make a serious dent in his share of the vote. He’d have to lose a third of the delegates or more, which means he would have to lose in several states. None of his current opponents are in any shape to do that kind of damage. You’d think he’d love the chance to get on the stage and bask in the joy of winning 100% of the delegates, but he’s too insecure to take the chance of losing votes anywhere.
satby
@Kay: I think that if his tax returns are revealed he knows he’s going down for bank and election finance fraud because he’s lied about being a billionaire for years. With the tax returns they can start seeing where the lies in loan applications, FEC declarations, etc are. Plus, he’d be exposed as not a billionaire, which he can’t stand.
NotMax
@satby
Began on day one with paid plants to fill out the crowd to see the ‘descends from the heavens via escalator’ event and hasn’t let up since.
mrmoshpotato
@Jinchi: Aren’t some states cancelling their Fascist….eerrr Rethuglican primaries though?
satby
@rikyrah: Good morning ?
@OzarkHillbilly: ?
mrmoshpotato
@satby: He’s probably not even a Russian billionaire. Sad!
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
His net worth is at least a billion … pennies.
debbie
Trump is no more loyal to this country than he is to the Kurds. That a tinpot dictator like Erdogan could get Trump to betray the Kurds with a single phone call must have them all lining up to make calls.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@TS (the original): I think a bunch of them are local extras, literally. Doesn’t the campaign put out a Craigslist ad for paid “admirers” for those things? Seems to me plaid-shirt guy was one of those.
satby
@NotMax: oh, I expect it’s going to show some dramatic improvement since say 2017.
Which would bolster the emoluments charge.
I suspect his tax returns are the closest to true statements about his finances we might get. And that’s only because the preparers know they could go down for preparing fraudulent returns. I don’t think the returns are 100% honest, just close enough to hang a lot on him.
Kay
@debbie:
That’s what’s interesting about the commentary. Not all of it, but most of it. It’s all centered around the US as the only country with agency. But that’s not true. Trump as the spokesperson changes the whole dynamic. They would be crazy not to take advantage of it.
Busting up alliances and trust works two ways.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Ouch. Half of what it’d be in rubles.
Jinchi
@mrmoshpotato: That’s what’s so surprising. Reagan even held primaries in 1984, despite having no real opposition. He won 98% of the Republican primary vote. You’d think giving your die-hard base the opportunity to vote for you twice in one year would be a perk of the job.
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: In Zimbabwean pennies.
TS (the original)
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: And I’ll never understand why the media doesn’t highlight this, rather than stand inside a cage & get abused by these admirers.
mrmoshpotato
@debbie:
Not unless he calls first.
“Would you like to crimes with me?!”
debbie
@Kay:
They take advantage of him and he takes that to mean they like him, they really, really like him. //
Original Lee
@satby: “My” Trumpistas are calling impeachment a coup and that the Democrats are seeking to invalidate the last election. Also that the Kurds are Marxists and socialism is killing America.
mrmoshpotato
@satby: Oh, adding tax fraud to the crimes.
Excellent!
Kay
@satby:
Trump isn’t private at all. He never has been. He loves his celebrity and he has always sought out media coverage of his personal life, including elaborate details about the marriages and failed relationships, half of which he probably planted. Media made him. He couldn’t have done it without them. He never shuts up about himself- blah, blah, blah, for decades.
But just this one part he doesn’t want revealed, and that’s what he told the federal government about his income, assets and debt.
Kay
@debbie:
I would bet 50 dollars, today, that he used the China trade deal negotiations for leverage to get dirt on Biden. They should subpoena someone in that. No way he passed that up. Rudy was broadcasting it for months. It was Ukraine then China. Pelosi knows though- she tweeted specifically about that last week.
satby
@Original Lee: most of mine did a pivot to trashing Greta and climate change denial. Mockworthy bullshit and their own grandchildren call them out on it.
I don’t wish them dead exactly, but in a nursing home and unable to vote crosses my mind. I should feel bad about that, but I don’t because these are vile people, and they have been for a long time.
OzarkHillbilly
A Utah Woman Is Facing Criminal Charges for Going Topless in Her Own Home
I guess I should curtail my naked gardening lest I traumatize the UPS man.
rikyrah
Thread.
I actually do hate these rotten muthaphuckas ? ?
Texas Civil Rights Project (@TXCivilRights) Tweeted:
BREAKING: We just heard the terrible news that all 12 of our clients escorted by @JulianCastro were sent back to Mexico. This is of course a mockery of due process. Here is our statement on the matter:
#LetThemIn https://twitter.com/TXCivilRights/status/1181329770765795328?s=17
rikyrah
@Kay:
You think that this will matter to the farmers whose markets he has destroyed?
That their delusion that he was fighting for anything other than his re-election is folly.
Will they care???
Kay
The review of this book begins: “although voters had little reason to know it at the time, there were actually two investigations going on at the time” – referring to the FBI investigating both Clinton AND Trump.
Part of the reason voters had little reason to know it at the time is the NYTimes printed a “news” story that was a (planted) denial by the FBI that they were investigating Trump.
Princess
I think the GOP is making a mistake. Sure, you don’t want enough internal debate to derail the convention. But tension makes it exciting and gets people to watch. I remember in 2008 and everyone was wondering what Hillary was going to say. Who on earth wants to watch a 4-day commercial? Boring. Low energy.
Kay
@rikyrah:
It isn’t just farmers. His botching and bungling of trade negotiations has harmed a lot of people financially. I do think they would care and perhaps more importantly political media would care, because as we know they are the only voters who count, who are “real” voters.
The identity of the victims matters. Always. The Trump Administration is planning to cut billions from food stamps. Blanket coverage, right? Nah. Less important victims.
Karen S,
@Cosmo: LOL
That was a great moment in that fun movie and spot on as an analogy for Trumpty-Dumpty and his ridiculous rallies.
Amir Khalid
@TS (the original):
Trump doesn’t actually care one way or the other. The important thing is, they’re there (making a show of) adoring him, and that’s what feeds his vanity. Reality is trivial. The show is what matters.
Kay
@Princess:
I’m interested in why they believe there would be so much dissent around Trump if they don’t cull the activists, conduct loyalty tests and allow only loyalist Trump zombies in. That’s not what they say publicly. Publicly they say everyone in the GOP loves the President. Why this iron fist approach with their own base? Not a confident look.
mrmoshpotato
@Princess: 3.75 days of empty Dump podium?
OzarkHillbilly
@satby:
There is a part of me that thinks people above a certain age should not be allowed to vote, for the plain and simple reason that voting is about the future. There comes a point in all our lives where we have no future, so why should we have a say in it?
I know, unworkable, mean spirited, and open to abuse from many angles, but like I said, a part of me.
JPL
@debbie: The democrats need to get the transcript on that phone call, because you know trump got something in return.
JPL
@OzarkHillbilly: geez.. Cole is in trouble.
Betty Cracker
Last week, I called and emailed all three of my shitty federal reps to encourage them to oppose Trump’s flagrant abuse of power, and I’m doing it again today and reminding friends and family to do so as well. Maybe it’s a waste of time. But these craven chumps won’t budge until it’s clear sticking with Trump endangers their careers more than doing their constitutional duty does. I’m going to keep at it.
Spanky
In better news, the Nobel in physics returns to astrophysics, with the prize split between defining the universe’s physical structure and discovering the first exoplanet. And I’m shocked to realize that was 24 years ago.
And a woman is 1/2 the exoplanet team.
Details from someone else. I’m on my phone.
Karen S.
@Cosmo: LOL
That was a great moment in that fun movie and spot on as an analogy for Trumpty-Dumpty and his ridiculous rallies.
(comment was awaiting moderation, not sure why, posting again)
Kay
@JPL:
They should get whatever they can, and they’re so blatantly corrupt it’s probably pretty clear, but are the “transcripts” from this crew even reliable? People who have been part of the process with other Presidents say that Ukraine “transcript” looks hinky and edited. A LOT of these people are corrupted. It’s systemic. I think it jumped any barriers a long time ago and is now threading its way thru the whole works.
mrmoshpotato
@Spanky: In your face land-based physics!
Princess
@Kay: Exactly. You’d think a guy who was into WWF wrestling would know that you need a little fake tension to keep people watching. Who would have watched the Apprentice if it was just ten underlings telling Trump what a great boss he was for an hour (who but Trump, of course)? He at least has to know this — it’s his major skill, maybe his only skill. Makes you wonder what’s going on underneath. Or is his ego so fragile not, even Weld with 3% of the vote is too much?
Dorothy A. Winsor
I see people doubting Elizabeth Warren was fired from a teaching job for being pregnant.
These people have never lived in the world women lived in then, and in more subtle ways, continue to live in.
Just as an aside, in Stephen King’s 1963, there’s a great view of what it was like to be a teacher in Texas in the 60s. The MC and his girlfriend had to keep their romance secret in order not to be fired.
Immanentize
@Kay: Well there are actual tapes. Let us please hear his voice and his inflections so we can judge his purpose.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
I haven’t done it yet but thanks, I will too. The Sherrod Brown call will be nice, anyway. I see Latta (my House R) at CLE’s sometimes (continuing legal education). We both go to a free one at a local hospital every year. He never says anything- doesn’t ask questions or anything.
My favorite “call your House member” story is my daughter. She called Paul Ryan’s office about Obamacare and got VM. Not her rep but that’s who she called. So she left a message, but she had more to say so called back to finish. “Hi- last caller again, just wanted to complete my statement” I guffawed. She’s so earnest. I bet she wrote it out.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: It has occurred to me that now they are suppressing their own voters in the primaries, which will have the knock on effect of not getting their voters out to vote on down ballot issues, and could have the effect of having their voters just tune out during the electoral season leading up to the 2020 general election and some of them possibly just not caring come election day.
It’s a really stupid move.
mrmoshpotato
Haha, this is good.
S Is For Subpoena
Kay
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I was concerned about it, partly because when she said it I thought it would be impossible to prove. I assumed it wouldn’t be written. But I didn’t know that much about it and I have learned some. I didn’t know there was a “5 month rule” or that NJ passed a specific law in 1972 protecting pregnant employees or that the policy was actually overturned in that district.
This is a good Twitter thread about it. Binnis is an education researcher (standardized tests). I have read her before.
Immanentize
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I agree — I don’t even understand the story. There was nothing illegal about letting a pregnant woman go. No legal protections whatsoever until really recently. The presumption was you wanted to leave anyway to take care of the child.
Then, before that, woman would not be hired for teaching positions if they were married or had a child. Period. And often just getting married was enough to trigger your ouster. My grandmother lost her teaching job as a grade school teacher in the 20s when she got married. She then had one daughter, and soon after her husband died of T.B. She had to go through a special process to get her teaching job back, but widows with a kid proved to be OK. Married women with a child were not.
There is no surprise at all in Warren’s story.
topclimber
@Bruce K: Have to put Grant before Carter. He defeated KKK 1.0 and took Reconstruction seriously. Had he won a third term (he was in the early running for GOP nominee) maybe Jim Crow would have had a harder time taking root. (As it was, Dems won a closely contested election to replace him largely by disenfranchising freedmen).
Frederick Douglass truly admired him, as opposed to his grudging respect for Lincoln. Grant also advanced rights of Native Americans when they still had a shot at cultural autonomy. While his Administration had its scandals his own integrity was never in doubt. Points off for being a binge drinking kind of alcoholic, but not one where it affected his performance in war or as President.
hueyplong
@topclimber: Ripping on Grant was an essential part of creating the pro-Confederate War Between The States myth. I’m thrilled to see the recent biographies pushing back on that.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@topclimber: There’s a Grant museum in Galena IL, where Grant was living when the Civil War started. I was more impressed by it than I expected to be. The photographs are striking.
Kay
@Immanentize:
My mother in law was a 1st grade teacher and she says it was assumed she would quit when she got pregnant and she did quit. That was ten years prior to Warren though. She went back to work part time but for less money in a church preschool that her children attended, where one didn’t need a certification. She says it was a “mommy job” and it was just understood she should get “demoted”.
My daughter is working 6 months pregnant so I’ve been thinking about it. She says “her” doc has been great but she got mean commentary from an older nurse, because twice she had to sit down in surgery because she felt faint. She is a fainter, she has low blood pressure and in early pregnancy being light headed was an issue. It’s gone now, thank God. Her doc (her employer) is originally from Iran. She says he’s been great. His wife brought her baby clothes. They have 4 kids.
Dorothy A. Winsor
The Post reports that the White House has blocked Sondland from giving a deposition today.
RAVEN
Lowcountry dog saves owner’s life, war medals from overnight fire.
Who’s a good doggie?
Kay
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Gonna need more whistleblowers to get past Crew Corruption. It’s put up or shut up time. The people who are panicking about Donald Trump have to speak publicly. I know none of them want to and they didn’t choose this but they have a hard decision thrust upon them and they have to decide. They have to choose.
Nelle
@Betty Cracker: My husband and I picked up that Grassley (“our” senator) was on record for protecting whistleblowers. So we started calling (local and DC offices) to urge him to go public about protecting this one. We have different last names, which has a multiplying effect and sometimes we won’t leave names. We said we didn’t want a private reply but a public statement.
He came out with just such a public statement. Then we started in on Ernst, asking her to join him on protecting whistleblowers. It’s not much but at a townhall, she finally came out and said the same.
So we are trying to push for minor fissures first. I call and call and call. When I lived in the last state, I was known enough in my senator’s office that I got invited in to talk about what I cared about. I am the old chatty lady who asks the one aide about her grandchildren and the intern about his dad’s wheat harvest or her major at university. Maybe it is stupid of me, but I keep pushing and pushing. I am the daughter of a refugee who tries to put a face and a voice to their idea of a political opponent.
SFAW
@NotMax:
Thank you.
Immanentize
@RAVEN:
Do you have a pupdate on your own two good doggies? Are they gonna be able to make the parade?
JPL
@Dorothy A. Winsor: They will attempt to block the former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch also. She’s the one I want to testify.
SFAW
@NotMax:
Lire, more likely.
SFAW
@Nelle:
Great work! Thanks to you and your husband!
Immanentize
@Kay:
Please tell your daughter to just sit down when she feels faint. I had a friend in Miami, beautiful young woman, print media face model. She got pneumonia, went to the Doc who made her stand still while he examined her — even after she said she felt faint. He didn’t listen and because she was trying so hard to stay standing, she had locked her legs. She passed out, straight like a cartoon, landed on her face, breaking her jaw, occipital and nose. Sure they had to pay pay pay but her career was done.
PostScript, she ended up dating a guy named “Rock” no joke and the last I knew they had driven to California in his van so he could surf.
Steve in the ATL
@NotMax: let me at ‘me!
Steve in the AIR en route to SYR
Spanky
@Nelle: You are a hero. Thank you.
Living in the liberal hell that is Maryland I don’t have much need to bang on my reps, except when Steny gets wobbly. Which is a lot, of course.
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: Here’s hoping it bites them big time – say for example Trump has to drop out just before the convention. Then you’ve got a bunch of unelected Trump delegates, a bunch of elected Trump delegates, and maybe a half-percent or so of Weld delegates. Drama!
JPL
@Kay: @Dorothy A. Winsor: Speculation is that obstruction is less damaging to republicans than hearing his testimony. They can’t afford to have more republican deserters, like that pompous ass Romney.
Spanky
@Steve in the ATL: Ah! Nothing like an autumn day in Rome!
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Nelle: Good for you.
OzarkHillbilly
@Nelle: Anchor baby. //
Enhanced Voting Techniques
So is Trump going to run again his own record in 2020 – basically accuse Biden / Warren but being the the incumbent and claim he is the challenger? This would be Trump’s mentality.
Immanentize
@Steve in the ATL:
Go Orange!
Steve in the ATL
@Original Lee: several city council candidates in my town are campaigning on stopping socialism. Isn’t socialism all that city councils do?
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: The Costanza Principle: It’s not a lie if you believe it.
Steve in the ATL
@SFAW: I didn’t post that, but it was my first thought as well. Extra scoop of ice cream for NotMax tonight!
Steve in the ATL
@Immanentize: Tennessee, Clemson, Florida, Auburn—we don’t celebrate orange back in Georgia!
Anyone have restaurant recommendations for Syracuse?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
One of Trump’s former execs predicts Trump will make a deal and resign
https://www.yahoo.com/news/barbara-res-trump-prediction-080510135.html
But I don’t see that happening, Trump’s idea of negotiation is take hostages, shoot the hostages and scream “F You” and storm out of the room (that’s what I think this Kurd mess is about, Trump punishing the Republicans and maybe even Putin for not supporting him) That might work in real estate, with stupid people, but no one in Washington thinks Trump can be trusted to hold his end of any bargain.
Ladyraxterinok
@Kay:
Just think about when childhood poverty was ‘discovered’ (Michael Harrington’s The Other America, right?). And the Democrats leading the country (pretty nearly) immediately swung into action!!
No difference between parties, you say?
JPL
@Steve in the ATL: haha We go to extremes but not that. We still like our parks and recreation department.
One of the candidates had a column in the neighborhood paper and previously criticized a council member because of his accent. I was tempted to ask him what he thought about Melania’s accent.
artem1s
Aren’t the rallies partially a cover for giant fundraising dinners? the rallies get the MSM attention; the dinners are held in semi-private locations so the really big donors can go pay their bribes for influence in the local party and not have their faces plastered all over the front page as being Dump supporters. We had one hear in NE Ohio a couple of months back. He did a quick stop with big Geauga County GOP Party leaders then finished up with a rally in Detroit, I think. Rumor has it they brought in $7M. Same GOP leaders who set up the meeting with the Russians during the GOP convention waaaaaaay back in 2016. Remember that? Maybe they are squeezing the last bit of blood out of the guy before they set him loose. But never forget, the GOP Party leadership set up this deal with Putin to get Pence on the ticket. Art of the Deal my ass.
Betty Cracker
@Nelle: That’s a very effective approach — thank you for describing it in enough detail that I can copy your work, LOL! I especially like the way you push for a public statement rather than a personal response — smart! :)
JPL
@artem1s: It’s not unusual to set up some type of round table discussion to our tax dollars help pay for the trip.
JPL
@Steve in the ATL: We’re celebrating the one and only orange team this weekend. Texas folks are visiting for the weekend. Apparently there is some type of game.
artem1s
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
It could happen simply because it is his pattern. And he doesn’t understand he can’t walk away from this mess and declare bankruptcy and move on. He’s that ignorant AND he thinks he’s clever enough to get away with it. That he’s completely in control of the situation. He will try to quit at some point. Whether it gets out to the public and McConnell wants him to quit is another matter. By now Moscow Mitch is in on whatever it is that Putin has on Dump and is probably the one who is at least nominally in control of the timing and means for getting their Useful Idiot out of the WH.
Jerzy Russian
@Spanky:
All three recipients are dudes, as far as I can tell. Am I missing something?
Spanky
@Steve in the ATL: Google Maps shows a KFC, a Dunkin, a Chipotle ….
Strong Hearts Cafe? Oy.
Ladyraxterinok
@OzarkHillbilly:
There’s been at least one science fiction novel in whic each person on their 65th birthday has a big celebration party and is escorted by friends and family to the local facility where with great care they are peacefully put to death.
Believe oneI’m remembering was written during the era there was so much public concern about over-population.
Now that I think about it, it occurs to me that era came to an end–or at least people stopped e pressing concern about over-population —at the same time anti-abortion hysteria got stirred up!
Steve in the ATL
@Spanky: my clients are cheap, but not THAT cheap!
Steve in the ATL
@Ladyraxterinok: #Malthus4eva
delk
Minneapolis wants money up front for Thursday’s hate fest and Trump’s team is screaming about ‘liberal mayor’ crap.
Nelle
@Betty Cracker: I have to use chatty old lady hood to my advantage. I even knew who were the Jane Austen fans in the local office of one of my senators. I try to disrupt their idea of who their opponents are. And also, always, to find some morsel of common ground. I think their jobs are kind of grim. I disagree agree (violently, for a pacifist) but , for my sake, I try to see them as individuals who may have tiny cracks in what they believe. I aim to widen the cracks. I may not persuade the senators, but I’ll at least work on his/her staff. Undermine within. Unfortunately, it worked for Putin and it is the most powerful way to defeat an opponent.
Spanky
@Jerzy Russian: You are correct! The CNN article had a link to last year’s winner thst I mistook for part of the 2019 article.
Spanky
@Steve in the ATL: It’s a college town. You ain’t their demographic.
Gin & Tonic
@Steve in the ATL:
It’s a bit over two hours to Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
Ladyraxterinok
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
In the 70s we went to Galena. A beautiful city then with incredible antique stores. We were told rich people from
Chicago went there on day trips to shop.
We also went to the Grant miseum.
CarolDuhart2
@hueyplong: And about the drunkenness, this was at a time when people drank to avoid tainted water, and most guys drank and then worked it off through hard manual labor. I mean, alcohol would be rations for both workingmen and soldiers. The excess drinking by both was what led to the Temperance Movement.
But no evidence has ever surfaced that his drinking made life dysfunctional in any way. No angry outbursts, no loss in discipline. It’s good to assume he drank no more than any other contemporary
It was a way for Confederates to diminish his accomplishments by saying he was just lucky and drunk instead of a strategic genious or something. It was to make him look bad as opposed to the saintly, genteel, Lee.
JPL
@Nelle: That’s great advice because I’m the nag who doesn’t care what they think. Your technique appears to be better.
Kay
@Immanentize:
I was once standing right next to my daughter at an event after a graduation and… felt something and she had dropped to the grass. Just gone. She’s better about it now- addresses it instead of toughing it out. We all have lower blood pressure on my side of the family and we all have hyper-thyroid so maybe it evens out. Feeling faint but also running a little higher – like a coffee drink but with alcohol.
Immanentize
@Ladyraxterinok:
That was the subtext of both Soylent Green and Logan’s Run.
Ladyraxterinok
@Steve in the ATL:
Title sounds familiar. Thanks!
Just One More Canuck
@OzarkHillbilly: you’re over 800 miles away and you’ve just traumatized me
Jinchi
@Kay:
No bet.
OzarkHillbilly
@Just One More Canuck: Chaos, fear, trauma in my wake. My work here is done.
Just Chuck
@Immanentize: In Logan’s run, Last Day was on one’s 30th birthday. In the book, it was 20 (!)
patrick II
@CarolDuhart2:
You sure aren’t thinking of the Democratic convention that nominated Hillary. It was the look they were going for, but not the one the BernieBros would let them have.
Jinchi
@Ladyraxterinok: “Pebble in the Sky” by Asimov?
Immanentize
@Just Chuck: I remember it was young, but not that young! I guess the TV show was just going with “never trust anyone over 30.”
artem1s
@OzarkHillbilly:
there are plenty of people who resisted letting 18 year olds have a vote. They have undeveloped brains. No understanding of how the real world works. Overreact to fads. Have no financial stake in established infrastructure
There are always reasons to limit voting rights. If you care about old people having undue influence, do something about the lackluster turnout from 18-30 year olds. We don’t take away rights in the Democratic Party. We seek to expand them.
SFAW
@Ladyraxterinok:
Fixed
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@OzarkHillbilly: I clicked through, there’s a little more to the story.
Sounds like the charges are being brought by their kids’ mother, who is using “they saw stepmom’s boobies” as an excuse to get custody.
SFAW
@OzarkHillbilly:
I shudder to think what your framing work looks like.
rikyrah
@delk:
Ok, this cracks me up
SiubhanDuinne
@Karen S.:
Comma instead of period in your nym.
VOR
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
My mother was fired from an elementary school teaching job for being pregnant. It was 60 years ago, but it happened and in a major city, not some rural place. So I believe it.
Ruviana
@Steve in the ATL: Dunno if you like Indian food but if you do I recommend Dosa Grill–really good, moderate prices, and lots of South Asians which bodes well for ethnic cuisine.
Steve in the ATL
@Ruviana: excellent—thank you!
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
One of my RWNJ friends is already posting smears about the Bidens. The disinformation has kicked into high gear.
J R in WV
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Mommy sees a chance to put Daddy’s NEW wife in jail, and on the sexual predator list or 10 years!! Mommy is a bitch, which is why she’s the ex-wife. Horror story… hope recent federal court decisions get this shitty Utah case dismissed, at least eventually.
CapnMubbers
@SFAW: Second that!
NotMax
@Steve in the ATL
Just so long as you’re aware of the vocal requirement.
;)