Kurt Volker, the former Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations, gave a deposition today to the House Committees on Intelligence, Oversight and Reform, and Foreign Affairs. It went for 9 or 10 hours. I’ve seen a couple of statements from Republicans trying to spin what the meeting contained, but the committee chairs released a letter tonight with text messages between Volker, Rudy Giuliani, Andriy Yermak, a representative of Ukraine’s President; Bill Taylor, the US Ambassador to Ukraine (replacing Marie Yankovich, who wouldn’t go along); and Gordon Sondland, the US Ambassador to the European Union. It’s straight-up what Trump confessed to, putting the squeeze on Ukraine, via withholding the military aid Congress voted, to get or manufacture dirt on the Bidens.
After receiving a trove of important documents from the first of the state department witnesses, my fellow chairs and I highlight some of those deserving of the most attention and what is at stake.
Read them here:https://t.co/kirRyA2pF1
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) October 4, 2019
A selection of tweets containing significant text messages from this release:
Texts make clear Trump aides knew and communicated aid was conditional upon Ukraine implicating Biden AND that they needed to hide that…when one of them calls it out the other lapses into “oh shit this gonna get leaked” talk denying what was happening https://t.co/bWuT17pnlY pic.twitter.com/rIIVFhXBOt
— *Palpatine voice* UNLIMITED DADPUNS? (@AdamSerwer) October 4, 2019
GORDON SONDLAND, 8/9/19: “I think potus really wants the deliverable”
GORDON SONDLAND, 9/9/19: “The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind.”https://t.co/UOy78W1goU pic.twitter.com/VXQ4RjPnnF
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) October 4, 2019
I don't see how it can be anymore clear cut than this. Zelensky gets a visit to White House (which he desperately wanted) in exchange for investigation of Biden & Clinton. This is from text sent before July 25th phone call. pic.twitter.com/tAJYpxRT1A
— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) October 4, 2019
Totally normal question for a US diplomat to have to ask and instead of “of course not” be told “call me” pic.twitter.com/sqfJxWlkB3
— Hayes Brown (@HayesBrown) October 4, 2019
Open thread!
Cheryl Rofer
A good question is why the Ambassador to the EU was involved.
Japa21
And exactly how is the GOP rationalizing the innocence of all this?
Fair Economist
And Volker gives public testimony next week. This is going to be fun.
Patricia Kayden
We have enough to impeach.
Patricia Kayden
@Fair Economist: Good to hear.
BlueDWarrior
@Japa21: it’s bad enough they’ve already jumped straight to “if Democrats aren’t pure, then Republicans can do whatever we want”
This is factually indefensible, so they either have to say nothing ever happened, or it doesn’t matter because we’re Republicans.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Bill Taylor: “The nightmare is they give the interview and don’t get the security assistance. The Russians love it. (And I quit)”
from what I’ve been gleaning from the coverage, Volker like so many pre-trump Republicans, thought he could manage trump’s crazy and humor him, by only committing a little light corruption, and then carry on with their own agenda while trump went back to his TV. Sunderland is a rich dilettante donor who wanted to be a player and thought more or less along the same lines as Volker
Cheryl Rofer
Mai naem mobile
I know everybody’s attention is on Trumpov and current Ukraine. Ukraine was convinced to give up it nukes. What other country is going to be willing to give up its nukes and be treated like this? It makes the whole world more dangerous in the long run. Fuck the Republicans for only looking at the short term.
Cheryl Rofer
SFAW
TurtlesTraitors all the way down. [with a few — very few — exceptions]rikyrah
Nine hours and texts?!????
Butter Emails
@Japa21:
They’re just lying about it.
rikyrah
@Cheryl Rofer: Impeachment proceedings for Pompeo and Barr?
Leto
@Cheryl Rofer: There’s also the whistleblower at the IRS alleging that there was improper political pressure brought to bear concerning Trumpov’s, or Pence’s, tax returns. Neither has released them.
I saw the early reporting about Volker’s testimony, with some GooPers coming out and saying, “Oh, this is nothing! It totally backs up what the president says!” *narrator: it did not.
SFAW
@Japa21:
“Hillary murdered Chris Stevens!!!”
hilts
My sympathies to any Wisconsin residents who are stuck with this dumb fuck Rethuglican Senator Ron Johnson and his bullshit “nothing to see here folks” reaction to Trump’s crimes
h/t https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/ron-johnson-ok-trump-asking-china-investigate-bidens/3855795002/
Mandalay
@Cheryl Rofer:
Perhaps because his background as a hotelier would be perfect in diplomatic discussions?
Or just maybe…..because Trump knew he was a weak and pliable sycophant?
debbie
And here I thought the Rethuglicans were silent because they were on break!
Cheryl Rofer
@Leto: I saw a couple of those. It was obvious that they were trying to set the narrative. That’s probably why Schiff released the texts so rapidly.
West of the Rockies
@rikyrah:
Yes, please.
SFAW
@hilts:
Which is to say: it’s a not-very-smart mob boss trying to muscle someone with less bargaining power.
He’s right, but he’s aiming at the worng person. Were he honest, or smart, he’d focus on the Traitor-in-Chief
ETA: Yes, I realize “not-very-smart” is about 50 or so IQ points higher than Shitgibbon’s
Cheryl Rofer
RandomMonster
I don’t think I can take much more infrastructure.
jl
So, the deliverable was a public announcement by Ukrainian government that they were opening a formal investigation of the Bidens? So Trump could hawk a bogus scandal involving who he thought would be his opponent in the general. Do I have that right?
If true, makes sense. Ukraine just had to write up some papers, find an office and put some names on it. Maybe detail a few clerks and lawyers to rewrite Trumpster conspiracy theories, and Giuliani’s fake memes.for 16 months. Trump gets a bogus campaign issue, certified by a foreign government.
Any evidence the scheme got that far along with China. Would be interesting to see those memos.
dmsilev
@hilts:
This is actually true. Since Trump is, at heart, a criminal, this is indeed “Trump being Trump”.
HumboldtBlue
When David Gergen’s gravy-throated-wiggling-wattle of commentary is explicitly and repeatedly calling the Republican president treasonous ya gotta think there is more than just fire here, the whole goddamn house is ablaze.
dmsilev
@RandomMonster: There’s always next week!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
B.B.A.
“Ain’t nothing gonna happen.” – Kenan Thompson
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@HumboldtBlue: we’ll see if Mitt Romney’s brow is furrowed at tomorrow’s Provo Cat Show And Lemonade Tasting
jl
@hilts: ‘ “Those countries are trying to shed the legacy of corruption — endemic corruption throughout their societies,” Johnson said, speaking generally. ‘
Has Trump ever said one word about any corruption in Ukraine ever, at all, except shouting lies about the crooked billions that Hunter Biden supposedly got in Ukraine? Oh, right, if I understand the news correctly, Trump accused Warren of being involved in some completely new claim of a corruption scandal in China.
Warren campaign got a huge boost today. The 20 something hunk she reeled in did have the muscles, and a great sense of humor. And Trump accused her of a world historic corruption scandal, so people will know she’s 100 percent honest and clean.
dmsilev
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: His brow has been furrowed for so long that the season’s second soybean crop is just about ready to harvest.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
On August 10, Yermak confirms that Ukraine will publicly commit to investigating Burisma and “election meddling”, Volker says “Sounds great!“
HumboldtBlue
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I remember back when Romney was first getting his presidential hopes up and running and he compared what his sons were doing on the campaign trail in Iowa to those serving in the military when asked why none of his kids actually served.
TBogg had a goddamn field day with that.
West of the Rockies
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Not to be confused with the Provo Lemonade Show and Cat Tasting.
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Volker was in on the scam and working to get it done. Seems like he was playing good cop with Taylor to smooth the way. What he was doing with Giuliani is hard to figure, but Giuliani is deranged. Volker decided he better jump now for no or short jail sentence?
Sebastian
I think the tide is turning, not just for trump but for the both-siders.
In the last thread was a tweet responding to Jonathan Karl about how both-siding something clearly illegal is supporting the criminal. At what point does the 1st Amendment end and accessory after the fact begin? This is a serious question.
patroclus
@jl: I don’t read it that way. The “deliverable” that Volker was trying to engineer was the formal statement, but the “deliverables” that Trump and Giuliani really wanted were (1) evidence that Ukraine engineered the disruption of the 2016 election (not Russia); and (2) actual dirt on the Bidens as a result of an investigation (legitimate or not). Volker’s no angel but he was trying to deliver something he thought Trump might go for when in reality Trump wanted much more. The obvious quid pro quos were a WH meeting and releasing the military aid.
Aleta
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/5/0/50759349-fe81-4444-a990-65c92528de82/50EE8A2F1CFC493A98876200762152FC.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf
Aleta
(Umansky is referring to info that appeared in a Post article)
jl
@patroclus: Maybe, (1) and (2) were deliverables if Trump and Giuliani have gone nuts (edit: at this point that may be a rhetorical ‘if’). (1) and (2) don’t exist. There may be some systematic corruption type dirt on Hunter Biden’s role, but multiple investigations have found it was legal and by current standards ethical (and IMHO, not nearly as bad as SOP in Congress and Executive).
If Volker was going for a more reasonable and feasible, and probably just as effective, more modest deliverable, then he is much smarter than the rest of them. Would have been easy for Ukraine to go through the motions of an investigation and pump out BS from time to time (just a little cut and paste can go a long way) that would be just as damaging. But he was still breaking the law, even so,right?
Aleta
JoyceH
@patroclus: that point doesn’t get made enough. Trump doesn’t want Biden “investigated”. He wants Biden FRAMED. The old Ukraine, the government that Manafort worked for, would have had no problem with that. This is gangster politics, Putin style.
jl
@JoyceH: ” He wants Biden FRAMED. ”
Stupid ask, if that is what Trump wanted. Trump thinks this is a reality show. A fake investigation that dribbled out BS over the next year. would have been just as good. Why ask for finished product that would be attacked and countered immediately upon release? Rumors, BS high level leaks and similar informal shit would be just as damaging and harder to counter.
Edit: but either would be a nightmare politically for Ukraine. Domestic opponents to current government would get snoopy about it, just for one thing.
patroclus
@jl: @jl: Agreed. (1) and (2) only exist in Giuliani and Trump’s heads. It is impossible for them to be delivered. (Although the info on Hunter Biden is at least as corrupt as Ivanka Trump’s China trademarks – which is not illegal or impeachable but has a certain stench).
Volker was indeed going for a more reality-based deliverable and although he didn’t succeed on the formal statement, he arguably succeeded in getting informal private statements and dribs and drabs of info that formed the basis of Giuliani’s various allegations (like Hunter Biden’s salary).
Mnemosyne
In not-so-great news, I get to wear a heart monitor for the next 14 days — I’m pretty sure it’s the same kind that they made Ruckus wear a few months ago. It’s stuck to my chest and I’m supposed to press the button if I have any symptoms, and then write the symptoms down in the little diary.
The not-so-bad part is that the cardiologist is 90 percent sure that the monitor is going to show that whatever cardiac issues I was starting to develop are the ones that are fixed with CPAP therapy, so we’re already on the right track.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
jl
@patroclus: ” Hunter Biden is at least as corrupt as Ivanka Trump’s China trademarks ”
I think some of Trump family scams much more corrupt. I think Hunter Biden is SOP systematic corruption, which is legal and I think on a personal level, impossible to legislate. How you going to write a law to police every office holder’s every adult relative. It’s a systemic not a personal type of corruption. Not even as bad as George Washington Plunkett’s ‘honest graft’.
Only real solution is to reduce effect of big money in politics and greater transparency.
Bill Arnold
DJT really is an idiot.
This sort of conspiracy is very hard to keep secret, and completely impossible to keep secret when the hounds are closing in.
If Russia seriously takes advantage of the current (DJT-caused) political turmoil in Ukraine, then D.J. Trump deserves to go to jail for the rest of his life just for that.
(Yes, he also deserves jail for other actions both during and previous to his time as POTUS.)
Gah. Did laugh at yesterday’s (excellent!) A Petri piece: For the last time, Trump’s every move is brilliant and calculated (Alexandra Petri, October 2)
ETA for those who don’t know, WaPo pieces can be read in a private browsing window (or whatever it’s called in your browser.) Have to click twice but free (for now).
patroclus
@jl: Public shaming (or what the Chinese call the “public sanction”) is the only way for deterrence. I’m old enough to remember “Billy Beer” which was Jimmy’s Carter’s brother’s effort to cash in on his famous brother’s office. The public sanction was effective then; now, not so much.
The major point though is that we now have clear “smoking gun” evidence of Trump’s shakedown and, even if not necessary, a quid pro quo. Taylor is the hero here. And that has only been compounded by Trump throwing millions of Hong Kong residents under the bus too.
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think clear from texts that Taylor was under suspicion. Seems like repeated requests for him to communicate off the record and he couldn’t document the lawlessness and treachery.
joel hanes
@HumboldtBlue:
Chuck Todd has seen a line crossed and found a spine too.
Surely these are the end times.
Dogs and cats living together! Masss-teryia!
JoyceH
@Mnemosyne: I had to do the heart monitor thing a few years ago. It’s a weird feeling being all wired up 24/7. Pretend you’re an astronaut.
Jay
jl
@Bill Arnold: Poor ghost of Machiavelli, must be walking around with a bag over his head. His spirit will be sneaking into every house tonight to get back copies of The Prince, out of immortal shame.
dmsilev
@Bill Arnold: Her column today was also very good:
joel hanes
@patroclus:
(1) evidence
(2) actual dirt
Or faked-up reasonable facsimiles thereof.
Trump would have been perfectly satisfied with lies and forgeries from Ukraine; indeed, it’s what he would have done himself in their position, without thinking twice about it, and he doesn’t understand why anyone else would not do so.
The Dangerman
@SFAW:
We are gonna need a bigger prison (surrounded by a moat with snakes and alligators and shit).
dmsilev
@joel hanes:
Necessary update.
jl
@dmsilev: Funny bit. Thanks. Trump is a cross of a dumbass ignorant Nietzsche and an inarticulate Lovecraft.
ThresherK
@HumboldtBlue: Holy fck, David Gurgle?
BTW My wife is nine years my senior and had already liked Warren. After telling my wife about this “scandal” and the “Go Cougars!” tweet, Warren’s got herself another voter.
Ksmiami
@jl: I want all these fuckers to burn
jl
Blog should have another tagline submission period for commemorate the developments soon.
If the forces of good win, then to celebrate and to teach future generations.
If not, then we won’t have long to enjoy them, for we’ll all be hanged as vile traitors.
Mary G
WOOT. Volker delivers a smoking battery of cannons. Good for him and Bill Taylor.
Jay
Kelly
@The Dangerman: about that moat…
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2019/10/snake-and-alligator-border-moat-budget-analysis/160350/
jl
@Mary G: Volkers role is still very ambiguous. I think evidence he was wiling to go along with crimes, but make the ask and the process not completely ridiculous, and he was a kind of manager for Taylor (who was indirectly being not very nice to Trump) and Giuliani, to keep that maniac from spinning out of control.
Volker may be just a low lever criminal who is smart enough to know when to jump. We’ll see how it comes out.
OTOH, Volker doesn’t fool around. Assuming he’s crooked, when he turns he turns, and knows how to turn the cannons around and brings lots of ammunition from the other side. So, I give him that much.
West of the Rockies
@Mnemosyne:
Fingers crossed!
Mnemosyne
@JoyceH:
It’s surprisingly minimalist — no visible wires. I t’s basically a little 1 inch by 2 inch box taped to my chest.
The annoying part is going to be trying to sleep without dislodging it since I’m a stomach sleeper, but hopefully I’ll figure it out. ?
jl
@Mnemosyne: Good luck. I had to wear one of those a while back when I had blood pressure spikes, which turned out to be due to work stress. It is unnerving at first. But believe me, it is worth it to understand what is going on after it is over.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
a good point
five hours to come up with a lawyerly denial… I wonder if all five of those hours were billable?
Wag
@Mnemosyne:
I hope that CPAP works as well for you as it has for me. My sleep and energy level is much improved with CPAP.
Wapiti
I wonder if Volker’s role is just very common across the State Dept/Defense Industry circuit. He’s a Raytheon man, and he wants those Javelins missiles sold. He also wants the customer to be there a decade from now, still buying missiles.
Mmm, corruption.
mvr
@Mnemosyne: Best of luck with the news being the expected news.
Aleta
Sondland donated a million $ to the infamous inaugural committee and seemingly in return received the nomination as Ambassador to the EU.
I was naive when I assumed big donors to Trump who received ambassadorships without foreign policy skills were ‘just’ being rewarded. I guess Sondland’s donation said he would pay to play, and so a year later Trump positioned him. After he was confirmed, and within two months of arriving in Europe, Trump put him in play.
mvr
@dmsilev: This really makes me want a like button.
ThresherK
@Mnemosyne: My brother is a CPAP user and it works for him. Best dreams (haha).
Jay
Aleta
@Mnemosyne: The first few days wearing the heart strings , esp. at night, were a huge pain for me, but after getting used, I forgot about it. (Turned out no issues.) So is this to explain an arrhythmia or something else? I’m trying to get my partner to get sleep tested as he had a very mild arrhythmia, + high bl pressure and is being affected mentally by something, and sometimes fits the type of sleep sounds …
Mnemosyne
@jl:
I also had a blood pressure spike, but because I have naturally low blood pressure, they didn’t really count it as such. I think I went all the way up to 140, which is barely above normal, but very abnormal for me.
@Wag:
It’s been working pretty well, I think. My sleep hygiene has really sucked this week, though. The CPAP only does so much good when you get 5 hours of sleep a couple of nights in a row.
Mnemosyne
@Aleta:
I went to the ER about a month ago with heart palpitations and a blood pressure spike, and while they couldn’t find a proximate cause (it was probably at least partly anxiety about not getting my frigging CPAP), the ER nurse thought that my heartbeat pattern was starting to show some early signs of arrhythmia.
There are a lot of “hidden” signs of sleep apnea, including high blood pressure, so I would definitely push your partner and his/her doctor to schedule a sleep test.
One of the weirder ones that popped up for me was persistently low “good” cholesterol, which is caused by the sleep apnea constantly putting the heart under stress.
Plus I had turned into quite the epic snorer in the last few years, which drove poor G to sleep on the couch on more than one occasion. I think he loves the CPAP even more than I do, and I love it quite a lot. We’re both sleeping a lot better now.
Mandalay
@jl:
Agreed, and being realistic, greater transparency is the key. Snowflakes here wail “But…Republican talking points!…” and “But…but the Trump kids are worse!…” and “But…he did nothing illegal!…” when Hunter Biden is raised here.
But:
– The public, and the journalists accompanying the Bidens on that trip, had no clue that Hunter Biden was pursuing a business opportunity when he accompanied his dad on Air Force Two to China.
– Joe Biden knew very fucking well that he was, and kept his trap shut.
Illegal? No.
Corrupt? Opinions may vary.
Does it stink? Very definitely.
Sooo…..if we just had a government rule that stipulated relatives accompanying a politician on a government funded trip must state any business of their own in advance, it would be a step in the right direction for greater transparency.
Hunter Biden had every right to go with his dad to China on Air Force Two, but since his dad was also Vice President we have every right to know what Hunter Biden was up to. And if that doesn’t sit well with the Hunter Bidens of the world they can go commercial, and pay for their own flights.
Ruckus
@Mnemosyne:
What I wore was a Zio patch brand EKG recorder. It also was 2 yrs ago and I understand the thing has changed but there was no button to record a noticeable event.
Now the results were pretty amazing, seeing your heart workings for 2 weeks was totally different than seeing it for 30 seconds.
ETA I’m supposed to lose my electrical power tonight sometimes after…….. a minute ago.
Ruckus
@Mnemosyne:
@Mnemosyne:
I’m often getting 5 to 6 hr per night. For some people that’s about normal. It’s not exactly good but decades of this don’t seem to be a major problem. Yet. And you seem to have a handle on it finally. Enjoy!
Chris T.
@The Dangerman: Since it’s for DJT: Sharks
Mrs. D. Ranged in AZ
@West of the Rockies: I would hazard to guess that Romney has drank a lot of lemonade but never tasted pu$$y.
I’ll see myself out…..
mrmoshpotato
*sigh* *headdesk*
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO FLIPPED DISTRICTS BLUE IN 2018! I CANNOT SAY THAT ENOUGH!
Mnemosyne
@Ruckus:
This one is a Zio, too — I think it’s a common brand, though my doctor doesn’t seem too thrilled with them. Maybe he’s run into the same problems you did trying to get the data back from them.
I also bought an SD card for my CPAP so I can look at the full data report if I want to, not just the tiny bits I get from the ResMed app.
Ruckus
@JoyceH:
They don’t have to wire you up any more. My recorder was an adhesive patch about 3×4 inches. That’s it. 2 weeks it goes to the lab and you’ve got 2 weeks of 24 hr EKG readings. A bit of hassle but easily doable.
Ruckus
@Mnemosyne:
That was the worst part. The docs said that it wasn’t normal but part may be who ordered it in the first place. It was my neuro doc, who didn’t actually know what was needed. He should have just sent me to cardo and stepped back. But he’s a useless gobber. So now I don’t see him anymore.
Good luck with getting your sleep stuff sorted out and hopefully that’s the only thing you’ve got to do. I went through 8 months of testing with an angiogram 2 days before xmas as the last test, with nothing wrong. The thing the gobber doc thought was a mini stroke, he now said was nothing. Fucking gobber.
JoyceH
@Ruckus: Wow, things have really advanced since I had the monitor, and that was just four or five years ago. Mine was a little box like a transistor radio (dating myself here!) with a few wires and sticky pads.
joel hanes
@Mnemosyne:
If your ResMed unit is anything like mine, it’s quietly using a cellular connection to send your data to myair.resmed.com
If you set up an account with myair, they have nice graphing so you can monitor your sleep stats. IIRC, the visible data starts with the night after you establish the account.
As far as I can tell, there’s no way to turn off this data send.
Darkrose
@Mnemosyne: Yikes! Hope it’s not too awful, and that it confirms what you and your doctor already suspected.
PeakVT
I think I may have an arrhythmia when I am falling asleep due to breathing issues. I did a home sleep study two weekends ago but the device was too intrusive – tubes up the nose, a mic around the neck, and the control unit adhered to the forehead and strapped to the head. Ugh. The Zio XT thing looks like a dream in comparison (though obviously it’s not doing the same thing). Sadly the nearest location is Dartmouth.
JWR
Tonight’s PBS Newshour had one-time GW Bush AG Michael Mukasey debating a woman I didn’t know, about this Ukraine business. After mumbling on about how this is all just a difference of opinion and should be left up to the voters this, very loosely, was the gist of one exchange:
.. which shone a bright light on his blatant hypocrisy. I’m thinking he’s just another of those unimaginative Rs who believes that anyone who has an R after his or her name is copacetic by default.
Aleta
@Mnemosyne: Thanks. Hope you sleep well tonight.
Duane
@patroclus: Trumpov’s complicity in the Hong Kong turmoil is shameful behavior for a US president, yet hardly noticed amongst all the his despicable behavior. It’s horseshit and every other kind of shit because that’s what he is. Shit.
Rbail
@JWR: the other commentator was Carrie Cordero from Georgetown Law. I like her forceful but respectful disagreement.
JWR
@Rbail: Carrie Cordero, huh? Thanks! I’ll look her up. And she was good in this interview. Maybe not as forceful as I would have liked, but then I thought she should have been rolling her eyes and doing the “head, meet desk” maneuver while shaking her fists at Mukasey’s oh so “clever” take on the situation.
rikyrah
@Mnemosyne:
????
Jinchi
Matt McIrvin
@PeakVT: those sleep monitors are way harder to sleep with than a CPAP. Mine had a pulse oximeter jammed on my finger, which I think was the most uncomfortable part. I hardly slept at all that night. The resulting data wasn’t enough to convince the insurance company to pay up for a CPAP immediately but it was enough to convince a specialist to fight with them until they did.
Mnemosyne
@joel hanes:
I have the MyAir app on my phone, but there’s another app called Sleepyhead (now OSCAR) that can read the card and give you graphs of ALL of the data minute by minute.
I don’t know that I’ll want to use it all the time, but I wanted to at least have the ability to see it.
@rikyrah:
The doctor I saw was from Milwaukee and did his residency in my Lake County hometown! ? He knew I wasn’t a native Californian because I was too sarcastic.
Mnemosyne
@Darkrose:
So far, I’ve been very lucky that when a medical thing crops up, the standard treatment almost always works for me. I’m hoping that my luck will continue to be good. ?
PeakVT
@Matt McIrvin: Thanks for the info.
J R in WV
@joel hanes:
How about living in a location with NO CELL SERVICE???? I bet that works just fine. What is it with urban folk assuming that Cell service is a universal fact of life? Here in WV there are tons of little hollows that are geographically impossible to connect to the cell network, and will be forever.
In AZ there are many locations that are too far from the nearest Cell tower to ever connect. Yet Social Security attempted to implement two-factor security on every person in the nation, using text messages to cell phones.
News Flash government agency:
Everyone doesn’t have a cell phone, for many it would be impossible even if they owned a cell phone because there is no service available where they live!
After a few million people pointed this out to their Senators, the Social Security Administration backed off a little bit on that requirement.