Forgot to post this yesterday evening, apologies to our observant commentors! Certainly seems like a perfect time for an honest reckoning and a global reset…
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Forgot to post this yesterday evening, apologies to our observant commentors! Certainly seems like a perfect time for an honest reckoning and a global reset…
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WereBear
Yes. When I first moved to an area that wasn’t homogenous, I discovered one of the Jewish holidays was a sad one.
But this isn’t it. Shana Tova!
JAFD
Good morning, and Shana Tovah to all of you – Jews and goyim, monotheists, polytheists. atheists, agnostics and Methodists.
May you all have a better year than this past twelvemonth has been for me, and thanks, from the bottom of my heart, for all the good wishes and healing energy and moral support and, yes, love, that you Juicers have poured out for me. I cannot begin to pay this forward, but I shall try.
Shalom and Mazel Tov !
OzarkHillbilly
In the road of life, holidays are potholes. Blech.
RAVEN
@OzarkHillbilly: This is my last day on the books and they take away my work email with no provision for forwarding or notice to the sender. It may be a good thing but I’m sure I missed something important!
satby
@WereBear: @JAFD: Shana Tova to you both! May the coming year be a better one for you JAFD, and for all the world.
@OzarkHillbilly: ? morning sunshine.
We’re waiting for the river to crest, it’s a couple of inches from flood stage. But I have power back, so that’s a plus. Now throwing out half the stuff in my fridge is my chore for the day.
Edited for lack of coffee, currently being remediated.
Baud
Shana Tova.
(BTW, who is Shana?)
@RAVEN:
Important work email and retirement are incompatible concepts.
satby
@RAVEN: my old job did that too. If you have a LinkedIn update it and people who want to contact you personally (vs you as a faculty member) will find you.
OzarkHillbilly
@RAVEN: Ah you didn’t want to talk to any of them people anyway. :-) Congrats.
JPL
Shana Tova
NotMax
@JAFD
After-nap belated response to a query of yours in downstairs thread.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ? ??
rikyrah
Shana Tova!
WereBear
@satby: Dang, sorry about what turned into a bit of a disaster.
?BillinGlendaleCA
We had a nice day with some clouds, so I had to take some IR pics, what better place than a cemetery.
Then it was off to the beach to shoot some pics of the moon setting over Santa Cruz Island, and the Milky Way.
satby
@WereBear: out from Friday night at 10 to Sunday afternoon around 3:30. A lot of trees came down around town and we have overhead wires. Now foggy and will be hot and humid for the next three days, then more rain and the beginning of more autumn -like weather. Hopefully the heat will evaporate some of the water, because though I’m on the high side of the river the floods have been very hard on my neighbors across the way over the three years I’ve lived here. The city has started refusing new building permits in the worst hit areas and buying the people out of their homes instead, so that it can be returned to the wetlands it probably was before the development craze of the 60s.
Edited again: my Kindle has obviously missed our morning battles.
WereBear
@satby: Yes, the flooding here can be extreme because the bedrock is granite and not terribly deep. Good luck to everyone.
satby
@rikyrah: Good morning ?!
How about all those storms!
OzarkHillbilly
@satby:
I had no idea oral sex was so damaging to the environment.
WereBear
It has occurred to me, from catching up on past threads (and I am still answering cat questions with kitten pics) that just as Speaker Pelosi spoke of tRump “self-impeaching” he might very well “self-execute” with some extreme health crisis under this much pressure.
I can’t image those arteries doing much flexing considering the kind of fast food he lives on.
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning. What happened to the emojis?
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
Only if you do it right.
satby
@OzarkHillbilly: I fixed it ???
NotMax
General question for the jackaltariat.
Mom has been making noises about wanting to get a recliner but her parameters for one are very specific, perhaps too much so.
It must be very narrow, no more than 30″ wide max.
Not the glide type, that is the kind with the back and the footrest operating in tandem.
Not a powered one that has to be plugged in.
Cloth covered preferable but other covering not necessarily a deal breaker.
Went around with her looking at various kinds when I was there and discovered then that she doesn’t any longer have the oomph for the pushback type.
Anyhoo, saw this chair while poking ’round the web and occurred to me maybe it would make a serviceable substitute. Anyone have any experience with this type of chair or thoughts on the matter? It’s gonna be for her home office/guest room, so would fit in with other furniture there.
satby
@WereBear: and then it would be all about how the vicious traitor Democrats hounded him to his death. I want his treason and other crimes fully exposed and prosecuted and him in jail. Not that it will convince the true believers, but he can save his fatal heart attack for his jail cell.
WereBear
@satby: Nothing convinces a true believer. Because their strongest convictions are not rooted in the real world, nothing else takes root there.
OzarkHillbilly
@satby: I saw, made me even happier to have caught it.
satby
Ok, just captured the latest neglected outdoor cat who comes to be fed. It’s TNR day ? Off to meet the rest of the kitty transport.
Kay
This is true. Not even the lead conspiracy theorist can keep them straight now.
debbie
Good Yontov is as much as I can muster this morning!
OzarkHillbilly
“Not all of Mozart’s paintings were perfect” – Chiefs coach Andy Reid following the team’s 34-30 win over the Lions in Detroit.
NotMax
@OzarkHillbilly
Sam Mozart, a helluva dabbler in oils.
:)
rikyrah
CNN already trying to Whitewash it ???
Dan Rather (@DanRather) Tweeted:
Some of the earliest and strongest calls for impeachment came from women and men of color. When the history of this period is written their voices of moral clarity must not be diminished. https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1178368254554718208?s=17
rikyrah
Rebecca Traister (@rtraister) Tweeted:
What the actual fuck is this whitewashing? “Leaders on impeachment” were @RepMaxineWaters, @RashidaTlaib, @AOC & @IlhanMN. And they were treated as inconvenient troublemakers by Dem leadership for their correct, early, consistent (& appropriately profane) calls for impeachment. https://t.co/02gPoQauZK https://twitter.com/rtraister/status/1178164917041537025?s=17
rikyrah
@Baud:
I see my Emojis…you don’t?☹️☹️
rikyrah
Also, don’t forget Congressman Al Green?
Rebecca Traister (@rtraister) Tweeted:
“Women of color who voiced swift, angry challenge to power are discomfiting, so let’s scold them for incivility, then present the white women who were most unwilling to rebuke the powerful and frame THEM as leaders!” is an extremely old song. https://twitter.com/rtraister/status/1178168317862920193?s=17
rikyrah
???
LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) Tweeted:
Just in case you think there’s such thing as a coincidence, the “pastor” Trump quoted today calling for a civil war believes that Hitler did the Jews a favor.
https://t.co/QlFTb7tasR https://twitter.com/LOLGOP/status/1178488963562168320?s=17
rikyrah
Elaine Luria (@ElaineLuriaVA) Tweeted:
?PSA?: “Fox News has learned that the Pentagon, State Department, and National Security Council were ‘unanimous’ in supporting the aid to Ukraine, and that Trump acted alone in withholding the aid over the summer.”
https://t.co/3SMkjyEaxk https://twitter.com/ElaineLuriaVA/status/1178485025999904769?s=17
satby
@satby: and I’m back. I may never be forgiven for my abject betrayal though. Little mournful meows the whole way.
frosty
@RAVEN: Congratulations! It’s got to feel weird to have that comm link broken so thoroughly. It would for me anyway.
rikyrah
Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) Tweeted:
So today Trump threatened a whistleblower, accused one or more of his top nat sec aides of being spies, demanded a House Chair be interrogated on suspicion of treason and threatened to foment a civil war if he is removed from office. https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1178515212389027841?s=17
Baud
@rikyrah:
I do now. Weird.
rikyrah
Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) Tweeted:
Scott Pelley on CBS just now: “@60Minutes has obtained a letter that indicates” the whistleblower “is under federal protection — because he or she fears for their safety.” https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1178455706552426501?s=17
rikyrah
This entire thread ????
Filet Mignon with a nice Chianti (@epitomee) Tweeted:
So umm, my 70 year old mother is signing up for dating websites. I just overheard my 19 yo son explain to her what“tea bagging” and “truffle butter” means. He also linked her to the urban dictionary. So here’s live video of my reaction to this fcukery https://t.co/J4eYte6hlU https://twitter.com/epitomee/status/1178416871390842882?s=17
?BillinGlendaleCA
@rikyrah: …and it’s not even 8am EDT.
David Evans
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Those IR pictures are agreeably spooky. I love the way the trees almost match the clouds.
Spanky
@rikyrah: The WB’s lawyers denied that. It’s in one of the overnight threads thst I can’t link to on my phone.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@David Evans: I guess I should have saved them for a month from now.? Plants reflect IR so they end up white.
Kay
Trump himself admitted the first part of the impeachment justification – the threat, and this is the second part, the withholding, which even McConnell admits, and did so again last week. The whole Ukraine charge is already proven.
Spanky
Now on CNN.com;
Seems like no one was particularly offended.
Barry
@NotMax: “Not a powered one that has to be plugged in.”
The ones that our family used had a battery, in case of power failure, if she’s worried abput being trapped.
Kay
Pelosi had to know they were withholding aid from Ukraine and, due to the President’s lawyer, she probably knew why they were withholding it. So she just needed proof, enter whistleblower and White House then giving it to her.
Kay
I suppose they have to repeat these “scoops” but it’s a TAD self-serving for all of these people to loudly insist the President acted alone. Maybe one of them could have gone to Congress and told Congress “we’ve solved the mystery of where that aid is- Trump is holding it up”?
This whole thing could have been conducted publicly.
Dorothy A. Winsor
We spent much of yesterday at our son and DIL’s house and watched the last (LAST!) Fast and Furious movie. Oh thank god.
So I’m catching up. Lots of crazy being spread around yesterday by both Giuliani and Trump. So Trump wants Schiff questioned “at the highest level.” Who would that be? It seems to me Schiff is the highest level in intelligence matters.
Also, how do we feel about Trump resigning in return for immunity for him and his family? I see speculation this morning. I want him and his spawn impoverished and in jail.
Betty Cracker
Two bits of insanity from yesterday to digest this morning:
1) The 60 Minutes interview with Kevin McCarthy: It’s clear from this clip McCarthy had no prep for the interview other than the extraordinarily ineffective talking points the White House forwarded last week — accidentally to Democrats as well as Republicans. When the interviewer notes during the interview that McCarthy isn’t answering questions but is instead parroting the talking points, McCarthy denies receiving talking points that everyone following this clown show knows were accidentally forwarded to the entire Congress due to White House incompetence.
It just boggles the mind, the ineptitude on display here. The Republicans had days at this point to agree on a Trump defense strategy, and they’re still relying on the initial talking points, which are that the whistleblower wasn’t on the Ukraine call — irrelevant since Trump released the damning summary and the White House subsequently admitted facts that corroborate the whistleblower’s account of what happened.
Trump is tweeting the same nonsense this morning because that’s all they have. Looks like the bottom of the barrel hires aren’t up to this challenge, even at a basic PR level.
2) Trump retweeted this 9-minute clip of Giuliani babbling conspiracy theory nonsense to George Stephanopoulos about a Clinton/DNC/Soros plot with Ukraine to frame Trump/Putin/Russia for election interference, proving that to this very day, Trump hasn’t accepted that Russia intervened to help him.
That last point — that Russia interfered — has been one of the only ones elected Republicans are willing to contradict Trump on, perhaps because they’ve seen the evidence, so they know denying it is bananapants and will make them look foolish and feckless to their constituents. Trump and/or his handlers know it’s dangerous too because a time or two, Trump has had to grudgingly admit he believes our security agencies about Russia attacking the election, though he denies it was to benefit him and equivocates as much as possible.
Anyhoo, maybe that’s the wedge the House Dems use to attempt to pry Repubs away from Trump — he’s implicitly and explicitly accusing our security apparatus of lying. Undermining the work of his own handpicked security agency heads by denying the facts they found for his own political gain sounds like a high crime and misdemeanor.
Sab
@Kay: Rob Portman is co-chair of the Senate Ukraine caucus. You’d think he would’ve noticed that their funding was being held up and why.
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
That ship long ago sailed.
Betty Cracker
Trump is tweet-screaming about Schiff again and ends the latest hysterical fulminations with “Arrest for Treason?”
Friends, I know we’ve been wondering this for nearly three years, as the level of insanity has steadily risen, but can we really go on this way? I just don’t see this as sustainable.
Gin & Tonic
@OzarkHillbilly: He’s probably correct on that.
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
The wagering* pool is open. 31 days from which to choose!
Which date in October will Dolt 45 and company commence referring to what is taking place as a lynching?
*Ladies’ and gentlemen’s bets, natch.
Ken
@Kay: On the other hand, had anyone reported the withholding of aid, undoubtedly we would now be being assured by Thoughtful People that of course the President has full authority to control the timing of the release of funds.
Or rather, we would have moved on from that a day or two after it was first reported, as it was buried in the daily gusher of criminality, idiocy, and criminal idiocy.
Betty Cracker
@NotMax: Still, there’s a reason Republicans in Congress are not willing to simply parrot Trump’s line about Putin’s innocence and good intentions.
Gin & Tonic
@Betty Cracker: Speaking of innocence and good intentions, I’m seeing reports in Ukrainian media today about Russian Special Forces units having been spotted in Norwegian territory. Waiting for some other confirmation, and I dropped a note to Adam to check whether he’s seen anything.
Immanentize
@Kay:
But as you have pointed out, we are so lucky they didn’t! So lucky this wasn’t done in public because they would have just lied different lies and the Republicans would have supported those lies and we would never have the whistleblower (or it wouldn’t matter) because the lies would have swallowed the truth of what happened.
satby
@NotMax: I would worry a bit about the wheels. We had similar non-reclining chairs at the Drs. office and it was always safest to hold them for people. You can lock the casters, but the chairs are light enough to still move if an unsteady adult misjudges their landing.
Immanentize
@satby: The casters can be removed or not installed to begin with. Most of those types of chairs have rug or floor pad options.
satby
@Immanentize: that should work then. How’s our Immp doing?
Immanentize
While I’m on the frequency for a bit, I wanted to thank you all for your kind and funny responses Saturday. Immp is home, ears pierced. Small tasteful white gold studs with surgical steel posts. Dad approved. I have learned (after the fact) that he completely hates the idea of ear gauges/spacers. Another win.
And I will check in with the Thin Black Duke next time I catch him in-thread. Really small world, neh?
Gin & Tonic
@Immanentize: The holding up of aid was accurately reported by Reuters on August 29, and the Washington Post ran an editorial entitled something like “Is Trump Strong-arming Zelensky?” on September 5. So it’s been in the news for quite a while, it’s just that people weren’t paying attention.
Ohio Mom
@WereBear: Late to responding to you, but there are more than one sad Jewish holidays but we modern, comfortable people tend to ignore most of them.
Doesn’t fit the culture anymore. For one example, having holidays that require fasting was useful in times of food scarcity but living in this era of abundance, we just don’t grok that. Religion evolves even if some people don’t.
Immanentize
@satby: You may have missed the comments about his trip to NYC this weekend. He didn’t eat enough (of course) but he had a splendid time. His knee got out of whack. First from too much walking (he is still rebuilding atrophied muscles) and then from being cramped in the train home. He’ll be fine. Alles gut.
NotMax
@Immanentize
Honestly don’t know, so a question. Do they have to be removed in order to participate in the security theater at airports?
Betty Cracker
@Gin & Tonic: Jesus. I wonder if Putin figures this is the opportunity he’s been waiting for, now that the US is thoroughly sidelined and most world leaders (not to mention the majority of US citizens) recognize that Trump is an inept buffoon.
Immanentize
@Gin & Tonic:
I get that. It was weird and there was an obvious hold up. But we would probably not have been able to make the Biden quid pro quo without that memo-script. This is how Trump does foreign policy. But we need the very specific proof every time or they will slime out of it.
Immanentize
@NotMax: His ear posts? No, they are tiny. (Now.) Like a small silver dot on each ear. Women don’t have to take them out and neither do men. And we both are in the Global Traveler program so, precheck every time (with exceptions) which means freedom not to uselessly remove your shoes because everyone knows that is stupid. But still they make people do it!
chris
Duckrabbit
@Notmax
Is aging an issue here? That chair swivels, so if she needs to brace herself to stand up, this will make that more difficult, and a fall hazard if she is not unsteady. Same problem with the wheels; check whether all 4 lock.
Gin & Tonic
@Immanentize: N.B. TSA Pre-check doesn’t work for international departures at Logan.
MattF
@Betty Cracker: Reminder: hyperventilation is unhealthy. If patient is male, a hard kick in the balls may help.
Amir Khalid
@Betty Cracker:
I’ll say it again: The Trump administration is a version of The Godfather where all the Corleones are Fredo.
chris
First thing this AM I see Newt fucking Gingrich. Now comes Bernie Kerik. It’s starting to look like a zombie movie.
rikyrah
@chris:
He’s always been one of them. Always.
rikyrah
@Amir Khalid:
It’s still an insult to Fredo.
The only Michael in the Bunch might be Barr.
Amir Khalid
@Ohio Mom:
That makes me think of how during Ramadhan, no Muslim considers not fasting by day; but at night, once the prayers are said, it’s just food food food all the time, and this season of abstinence is when people gain weight.
Immanentize
@rikyrah:
Well they do keep dragging him back in.
Betty Cracker
@Immanentize: Ha! True!
prostratedragon
@OzarkHillbilly: Words for the ages.
NotMax
@Immanentize
As my footwear of choice has metal buckles, little advantage in my case.
;)
Ruckus
@RAVEN:
Are you at work? No?
That’s the important part. You enjoy life, enjoy this new part! Work around the house, annoy your wife, enjoy your wife, go for long walks, learn to do nothing.
Ruckus
@rikyrah:
I’ve heard Maxine Waters over a loudspeaker. She swears more than I do. I like her.
We talk about both siderism and it’s true. But those news folks, as much as they might be to blame for putting themselves there between a rock and a hard spot or even creating it all by themselves. They have to appeal to the vast majority or they lose money. Poor fucking babies. If money wasn’t their sole reason to exist they’ed figure out how to exist being truthful. Notice how many of them are actually discussing truth – sort of – right now? They have a choice and most of them won’t make that choice.
NotMax
@Ruckus
Still hard at work on upgrading my hard won amateur status at doing nothing to professional levels.
;)
Ruckus
@Betty Cracker:
Of course it isn’t sustainable. The only good point is that it is starting to peel off – and it will be slowly – some of the somewhat more sane republicans. Once that happens trumps support starts to fall apart. The ones fully invested in trump, say Kevin McCarthy, may never turn. We don’t need 100% and should never count on it but the insanity is getting so bad that some will risk that enough of their supporters will follow them or that country actually can be put first. And at least one has. It’s even possible that moscow mitch has seen the light. It’s a flash light with almost flat batteries but it is a light.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
One atta boy for that. Acquiring do nothing status, and enjoying it, is the goal.
NotMax
@Ruckus
Firm believer in the values of the naughtathlon.
;)
J R in WV
@Betty Cracker:
Well, I have to gently disagree that any of this nonsense shows that Trump doesn’t believe or “hasn’t accepted” that Russia intervened to help him. After all, we’ve all seen him asking Mr. Putin for help on national TV. I think he hopes that his strenuous denials will help him find a jury willing to believe that Trump know nothing of the plotting behind his election.
I also think that’s pretty unlikely, unless the prosecutor is also part of the plot and selects jurors willing to ditch the government’s proof.
ETA to add a needed comma
J R in WV
@NotMax:
“Still hard at work on upgrading my hard won amateur status at doing nothing to professional levels.”
I’m into my 10th year of of early retirement, so far so good. Whenever I get the urge to work on something, I find that taking a nap until that urge passes works well.
NotMax
@J R in WV
Ten years as well since (involuntary) retirement – or as I put if at the time, gainfully unemployed.
Naps have left chocolate in the dust as the years have flown by. Zees over sprees.
;)