Elizabeth Warren is going to stay after so all the other candidates can get a selfie with her.
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) September 13, 2019
Probably a couple winners, actually — but the immediate standout has been decided…
Poll: College students say Warren won third Democratic debate https://t.co/4qLD1ZLzEd
— Damon Bethea ????A Proud Warren Democrat???? (@damonbethea1) September 13, 2019
About a thousand times more politically effective than “abolish ice” https://t.co/aZcO2i5F7g
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 13, 2019
I have no idea how much to weigh the 538 before/after debate polling stuff — but for the second time, the number of people who *dislike* Warren shrank. Last time around, she was the only candidate out of 20 to do that. This time, it was just her and Beto. https://t.co/5q0C5YhMaO pic.twitter.com/bz8WpAAQLO
— Langston Taylor (@langstonitaylor) September 13, 2019
It wasn't people's gut reaction because the professional political class is so used to Warren's comprehensive competence that it seems ho-hum. But the average viewer doesn't come in with that baseline. https://t.co/lqTtxqaV8D
— ??Dante Atkins?? (@DanteAtkins) September 13, 2019
So, Warren got the best average debate score:https://t.co/insEKpYrMU pic.twitter.com/YjHcvP6vrG
— Micah Cohen (@micahcohen) September 13, 2019
Warren got the biggest bump in likely primary voters who are considering voting for her:https://t.co/insEKpYrMU pic.twitter.com/TUTJtL2ObG
— Micah Cohen (@micahcohen) September 13, 2019
Warren (just after Klobuchar) got the biggest increase in average perceived electability:https://t.co/insEKpYrMU pic.twitter.com/FOA5z5P7iZ
— Micah Cohen (@micahcohen) September 13, 2019
Warren talks like a person, which is a rare skill in American politics. She didn’t get lost last night and she didn’t seem angry. And she didn’t misspeak. I want the bar she has to clear to be the same height as Biden’s. pic.twitter.com/312kMz3RkN
— jess mcintosh (@jess_mc) September 13, 2019
Butter Emails
I don’t really want the bar for Warren lowered – she might stub her toe on it. Instead, I want all the bars for all the Presidential candidates placed at the same level hers is. That includes having the press borrow Alvin and a shovel and then go dig up Shitgibbon’s bar from it’s location 2 miles below the seafloor in the deepest point of the Marianas Trench.
Anonymous At Work
Which pundit will say the quiet part loudly about Warren? That she lacks WHITE PENIS?
PsiFighter37
For me, it’s Warren or Biden given the current poll standings. Harris is out, and the only one of the marginals that is interesting, if he can make a dent, is Booker.
Flame away! I’m trying to file a newborn’s nails, so I am facing tougher.
PF37 +3
Damien
I think you’ve got it twisted: I want every presidential candidate to have to clear the bar she’s setting.
I mean, honestly I want EVERY candidate to have to hit that mark. Let’s start weeding out the bullshitters *cough*sanders*cough*gabbbard*cough*
Gosh, excuse me, I must have something stuck in my craw…
Jay
Jay
Baud
I’ll be interested to see if this is reflected in the next round of polling.
Jay
Major Major Major Major
The newest approved attack from Bernietown is to say “well if she has a plan for everything, why does she just point to Sanders’s plan for healthcare??”
It’s very lame and makes no sense, so I’ll assume desperation.
Baud
I honestly was not overwhelmed with Warren in the debate, but I had been paying attention to her for a while.
HumboldtBlue
I guess we know what Betty was doing today.
Elizabelle
@PsiFighter37: Congratulations on your new little daughter. Exciting news. Hope you are settling well into life with sleep deprivation.
Will you tell us what her first name is? If you’d rather maintain privacy, that’s fine too.
Old Dan and Little Ann
My wife went to Woman’s Hall of Fame induction today. She just texted me a pic of her talking to Justice Sotomayor. Sweet!
trollhattan
@Jay:
Would Betsy DeVos be able to name her eighth yacht? Remember where it’s moored?
“You know, the robins egg blue one.”
trollhattan
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
Lucky! I’d love to meet her.
Mike in Pasadena
Every answer to a debate question should include a criticism of Trump. The fight must be taken to Trump. Trump is the opposition. We need to see who can hit Trump hard. Warren is the candidate most capable of doing that. (I suspect, but I don’t know for certain.l
Rant over
trollhattan
@HumboldtBlue:
Okay, Florida encapsulated in a single image. Raccoon-gator invasion!
The kid ran her second ever XC race today and placed in the teens out of more than 250, top in her school district. #DadBrag
Jay
@trollhattan:
VIII?
Shana
@Jay: I saw that ad Thursday night and thought “wait, the Khmer Rouge weren’t socialist they were communist”. I know I was a young teenager when they were in power but I definitely remembered that. So why did they make an ad saying they were socialists? Are they assuming we’re that stupid?
sukabi
No. I want the bar for Biden (and the other men) to be as high as it is for Warren and the other women running.
That would give us a much better choice.
PsiFighter37
@Elizabelle: Violet.
trollhattan
@Jay:
Wouldn’t that just be so annoying? Or maybe “Ayn VIII”
Another Scott
@Elizabelle: I thought everyone already knew.
It’s PsiFighter38.
Of course. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Scamp Dog
@PsiFighter37: My great-aunt was named Violet, and I still remember her fondly. Glad to see that name making a comeback!
Old Dan and Little Ann
@trollhattan: Yup. She’s an AP Gov teacher. This is going to make her year.
SiubhanDuinne
Both the NYTimes and the WaPo ran opinion pieces today maintaining that Trump is the real winner of the Democratic debate(s). Both, needless to say, were by conservative writers: “Donald Trump Clearly Won the Democratic Debate” by Kathleen Parker, right-wing staff columnist for the Post, and, in the Times, “So Far, Trump Is Winning the Democratic Debates” by guest columnist Christopher Buskirk, editor/publisher of the right-wing blog American Greatness (I had not heard of him previously, at least not enough to remember).
I’m not at all surprised, of course;just thought I’d mention it.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
Kitten report.
My husband wants to rename Tux. I can’t say how much my calling Tux “Biggie” might have played into this decision.
Their vocabulary has expanded as they’ve settled in. The first day or so, they said mostly “Feed me!” and “Put me down!” We’re now greeted with chirps and trills.
They’ve made it clear that they want a dinosaur diet. The response to being offered chicken-based cat food was emphatically enthusiastic. The response to rotisserie chicken was … dramatic. Unfortunately, the video was at a bad angle, all tails and growls, so you’ll have to take my word for it.
Jay
Bill Arnold
@Jay:
Thanks for the link (very ugh, had not read the SC declaration previously).
One has to do an abstracted reading of the SC secession declaration to read it that way; the text is mainly about preservation of the institution of chattel slavery and the preservation of the wealth of the slaveholding class, even the relevant bit:
Part of the arguments leading to the 14th amendment, I assume. The North should have been much harsher on the South post-war-of-the-rebellion.
Betty
@SiubhanDuinne: They will keep trying despite all his terrible actions. For shame!
Yutsano
Since we’re open thread:
To the shock of no one (at least here on this blog) Clarence Thomas is indeed a rage machine of racial resentment. Fuck Biden for letting this slimeball on the court.
ruemara
@PsiFighter37: Why is Harris out?
And, I’m not sold on Warren. Well, I’m not sold on anyone. They’ll have to prove they can win first. Warren hasn’t proven that to me. Wonkiness is not what Americans adore. Sadly. We’re also seeing more of her nonsense with claiming Native American ID coming up. Thank the Sanders team for that mess. We’l just have to see what shakes out.
HumboldtBlue
@trollhattan:
Well done, I loved running cross-country.
Jay
@Shana:
In the kkkonservative airless pseudointellectual bubble, Sochializm!!!!!!! has been a scary word and descriptor for every good policy but is never mentioned when discusing the MIC or Corporate Welfare.
It’s a dogwhistle out to their base, who really are that dumb.
Major Major Major Major
Warren is still the only candidate with a working understanding of housing, I guess
Gex
@Shana: Pretty sure the people they win with these “arguments” neither know or care about the differences between the terms.
schrodingers_cat
@SiubhanDuinne: That is a white supremacist publication for the college educated. Michael Anton of Flight 93’s home, IIRC.
HRA
https://www.nytimes.com › 1991/10/16 › the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-…
Oct 16, 1991 – … call by which the Senate voted tonight to confirm Judge Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court. … Delaware: Biden (D) No; Roth (R) Yes.
schrodingers_cat
@ruemara: Neither am I.
Bill Arnold
@Shana:
Yes.
The wikipedia article is pretty clear.
“The Party Centre’s ideology combined elements of Marxism with a strongly xenophobic form of Khmer nationalism.”
schrodingers_cat
My FP lol on ICHC/lolcats
Ceiling Cat what did I do to deserve this
Jay
waratah
@Baud:I felt the same as you I thought she leaned into Bernie quite a lot and weather she wanted to he took over like he was protecting her. I was surprised to see that. She might have been expecting attacks this debate but I wanted her to look strong.
Dorothy A. Winsor
For Chicagoland juicers: On Sunday, Sept. 15, I’ll be working at the SCWBI table at the The Children’s Book Fair of Hyde Park from 2-3. There’s lots going on. 57th Street Books will have The Wind Reader for you to buy. Come on down!
SiubhanDuinne
@Betty:
It’s meant to be an original, refreshingly counter-intuitive take, but at this point it just seems lazy. I wouldn’t even have noticed, probably, but the fact that both papers ran similar pieces on the same day — presumably without active collusion — tells me that the right is bankrupt of ideas. Not that that hasn’t been clear for a long time.
Elizabelle
@PsiFighter37: What a beautiful name. Violet. I know a girl named Amelia Violet.
Jay
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: You and me both. I also didn’t think that Castro was all that mean. I was not impressed with Joe Biden’s babbling when asked about addressing the historic injustice of slavery either. I don’t think all that ails us is bad economic policy. Warren is Bernie with a brain and policies. And that’s why she is not my first choice.
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodingers_cat:
Ugh.
ruemara
@schrodingers_cat: I’ve noticed she’s a fave to some demographics and not others. Funny that.
schrodingers_cat
@ruemara: You see that divide on Balloon Juice as well, both on the FP and in the comment section.
waratah
@Major Major Major Major: Beto has talked about the lack of affordable housing for workers close to work in large cities like San Francisco.
Restaurants having problems with waiters even tho the he pay is very good.
MomSense
@ruemara:
I’m not a fan. With the caveat that I will vote for the D nominee, I really hope it isn’t Warren. I think the Native American mess is going to be framed and will stick as claimed Cherokee to get an unfair advantage. It will be like the butter emails all over again.
I also have some policy differences, and think her skills are better suited for the Senate.
schrodingers_cat
@MomSense: She shouldn’t have fallen for the T bait and taken that stupid test. That he can bait her like that is worrisome.
J R in WV
I have taken a swing at the New Yorker article on Clarence, and have read other articles about him. No more, please. Thanks.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
Someone asked about the cave Tux was playing in. It came with the kittens; we thought that having a familiar condo would help acclimate them. I had never seen one like that before, but I managed to find the manufacturer’s site. Every attempt to link to the condo has made the comment vanish, so search on Amazon for “Prevue Catville Loft Cat Furniture” to see the exact model.
Bill Arnold
@ruemara:
Same question from me.
Good debate review: Random Observations on the Democratic Candidates After Their Third of 850 Debates (The Rude Pundit, 9/13/2019)
schrodingers_cat
Modi has a rally in Houston on September 22. Indian news media is reporting that T might drop in. I have my doubts that it will happen.
Redshift
@Shana:
A go-to conservative argument against socialism for my entire life has been “socialism is the same as communism and we all know communism is bad, right?” So, yes, they are.
Jinchi
There is so much wrong with that sentence especially if it’s literally true.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
Isn’t 3% almost always higher than 1.5%?
Emerald
Harris is far from out. Warren is getting very big crowds but they are as glow-in-the-dark white as I am. Harris also is getting big crowds, but the media appears to be studiously ignoring her. Harris’s crowds are diverse.
The path to the nomination runs through Black women. If and when Biden fades Harris is going to become formidable.
She’s also the strongest candidate in the general because she can motivate POC to vote, just as Obama did, which I think is the reason the far left, far right, and the media have been smearing her. And she’s freakin’ tough. They know she’s the one to beat. tRump is seriously scared of her. He never responded at all to her calling him out straight on in the debate.
Plus, if Warren is the nominee, Baker will appoint a Republican senator to replace her if she wins. That would be seriously not good, and I wish people would pay attention to that very serious problem with her.
Took me awhile to make up my mind between the two, but I’ve chosen.
waratah
@MomSense: they are trying to stick Beto with fake Mexican because of his nickname but Beto is not worried about it. They have been trying to do this since the senate race I am tired of them repeating over and over
Baud
@Emerald:
If that’s true she should easily win the Dem primary.
Gin & Tonic
@Emerald:
No, he won’t. The seat will be filled by a special election.
Jinchi
I’d like the bar he has to clear to be as high as hers.
Hildebrand
@schrodingers_cat: Oh my god – let it go. She learned from that, recognized the real issue, addressed it, and moved on.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
I don’t know why I’m not allowed to post links now, but there’s a new clip up at my Youtube channel.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
There will be a temp Senator for a few months.
Another Scott
@MomSense: I just spent some time reviewing some of my old comments from 2015. I’m was mostly undecided then, and [now I] have some I like but I’m not fully committed yet.
By the time MOM imploded and Wilmer showed his true colors, the choice was very easy for me.
I think we’ve got plenty of time before we should be striking people off our lists.
Cheers,
Scott.
debbie
@Mike in Pasadena:
I’d like one of them to say, “Anyone on this stage would be a better president than Donald Trump. Even you, Chuck,” while looking over at Todd.
Jay
Baud
@debbie:
I thought someone said that at one of the debates.
ETA: not the Chuck Todd part.
Major Major Major Major
@Emerald:
26% of Biden supporters say their second choice is Bernie, 24% Warren, 12% Harris. Harris gets the highest ‘second choice’ figures from Warren supporters (19%). https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/
Emerald
@Baud: Yep. If and when Biden fades.
debbie
@PsiFighter37:
Love that name!
Jay
Jinchi
@Gin & Tonic:
Right. Massachusetts has a strange habit of electing Republican governors, even while Democrats dominate every other major office. The legislature solved this particular problem a while back.
They first used this law to fill Ted Kennedy’s seat.
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
I’ve heard Buskirk on NPR a couple of times. He’s an idiot. Alex Jones without the yelling and shouting. Milo without the accent.
Emerald
@Major Major Major Major: They don’t know her yet. They will.
Hildebrand
@Emerald: My congregation, a black congregation in Detroit, has not settled on anyone. They don’t like Bernie, other than that, they are waiting. I asked about Sen. Harris, they are withholding judgment. Warren, Biden, Harris – it’s wide open.
Baud
@Hildebrand:
They truly are the children of God.
Jay
germy
Senator Joe Biden and then-Harvard Law School bankruptcy professor Elizabeth Warren discuss bankruptcy reform in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on February 10, 2005:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InVvVzprIxQ
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodingers_cat:
Why on earth would Modi hold a rally in Houston (or anywhere else in the US, for that matter)? Is there a large Indian expat community there?
Emerald
@Hildebrand: Yep. That’s what I hear. Wait till the ground organization she’s building springs into action. It’s how she’s won every election, always coming from behind, often way behind.
chopper
@PsiFighter37:
newborn nails are too soft to file. just bit em is what i did.
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
He sounds horrible.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Gin & Tonic: Baker will appoint the interim Senator, the special election will be held months later.
Jay
@SiubhanDuinne:
In the deep dive on Tulsi’s funding and the Sangh, there’s a lot of coverage of a bunch of the Big Money groups in Texas, so Modi’s gooa give a speech and meet and greet, then go home with bags of US dollars, to invest in Indian Elections and more corruption.
Another Scott
In shocking, shocking other news, Kavanaugh was a sexual assaulting monster at Yale, too.
Grr…
[ via nycsouthpaw on Twitter ]
Cheers,
Scott.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Another Scott: (This is my shocked face…)
schrodingers_cat
@Hildebrand: I don’t really care but I don’t think our Republican leaning media is going to forget it, if she gets the nomination.
Baud
@Another Scott:
The Clinton machine is at it again.
Ohio Mom
@chopper: That’s what I did too but I think the new rule is no biting. You know the rules about babies, they are always changing.
TS (the original)
@schrodingers_cat: Whoever gets the nom – trump will have something to get his troops to sing about – I think Sen Warren can handle it as well as any of the others. The biggest thing in dealing with trump is never apologize. Hillary called them deplorables – 100% true but the apology took away from that truth.
schrodingers_cat
@SiubhanDuinne: My guess is that it is impressive to his base back in India. Houston has a substantial Gujarati population, he was the CM (Chief Minister) of that state for 2 terms. Gujju expats are big donors of the BJP. So in short, good publicity and money.
FlyingToaster
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Exactly, and the dates are set by the (Democratic)
Prince of DarknessSecretary of the Commonwealth, per the legislation, in specified # of weeks for the primaries and elections.The difference this time is that the leading D candidate for SPW’s seat will NOT be the “Satanic Panic” Mass AG, but Joe III. And the Republican Bench here is, um, mostly occupied by billionaires and religious whackjobs. Unless Charlie wants to go to DC himself, they don’t have a viable statewide candidate.
SiubhanDuinne
@Jay:
@schrodingers_cat:
Thanks.
Baud
@TS (the original):
In 2016, we had to pretend that the white working class were disaffected socialists in order to unify the party. It didn’t work.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Both Bill and HRC went to Yale Law School, coincidence?
Amir Khalid
@Major Major Major Major:
So Wilmer wants to be President The Rent Is Too Damn High?
Steve in the ATL
@schrodingers_cat: got up early this morning and fed the dog, then went back to sleep and had a bizarre dream that you made me garrote two people. There was a witness to the second murder but I woke myself up before having to face consequences.
So…did you Manchurian Candidate me or I am simply in desperate need of therapy?
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Yes.
Butter Emails
@Emerald:
It needs to spring into action fairly quickly. Harris and Warren are (or at least were) in very similar positions as candidates in that they need to show that they can actually win. If they don’t manage to do well in a couple of the early primaries, they are both going to find it difficult to grab the undecided and Biden supporters whose entire philosophy is “Just win baby.”
Jay
southpaw and others are all on it today.
Raven
@Steve in the ATL: woof, it was amazingly comfortable and I thought of you as I walked up that goddamn hill.
schrodingers_cat
@Steve in the ATL: Wait whut?
Steve in the ATL
@Raven: I still hate that hill! Bring on the Catholics—we looked good today. I have a charity event that night and I’m not sure what to do. Send a check and watch the game?
@schrodingers_cat: I don’t know—you tell me!
Jinchi
Biden definitely is in the best position with a core constituency. But that doesn’t mean he has this race locked up.
October 2007:
January 2008:
Butter Emails
Baker would be the real risk, but I suspect he wants to be President and considers remaining governor that stronger play.
Ken
@Baud:
That’s 1.5 times the inflation rate. With recent rates, that would be about 2.5%.
Many economists have been predicting that the US will soon enter hyperinflation – some of them for decades. If eventually the stopped-clock principle pays off for them, the rule would mean that housing costs could increase at 50% faster than inflation. Presumably that means some other cost, such as food or fuel, would graciously step back and allow housing its share of the overall inflation rate.
TS (the original)
@Butter Emails: I want to see a woman win – it seems 2016 has people afeared that only a white man can defeat trump – the media were so anti Hillary they gave trump pass after pass & then the politics – that could find NOTHING in those emails, despite years of investigating – came up with Comey.
Any of the women will eat trump in a debate (if he ventures there)
Major Major Major Major
@Jinchi: interesting, I’d been meaning to look that up. Thanks.
Richard Guhl
@Baud:
Her obstacle is Joe Biden, who has hugged on to Obama tightly. This has endeared him to South Carolina African American church ladies. In 2008, they were all for Hillary until Obama won in Iowa, and that removed their fears of voting for a black man.
Matt McIrvin
@SiubhanDuinne: Trump clearly read the Parker article (or had somebody summarize it for him) and has been borrowing phrases from it.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: I’m not the one to ask since I worked an entire extra year for the tickets!
Citizen Scientist
@Old Dan and Little Ann: cool! That sounds way better than the time I met clarence thomas.
Steeplejack
@HumboldtBlue:
That’s one ballsy raccoon.
Butter Emails
@Jinchi:
Right. But on January 3rd, Obama eked out a win in Iowa. Then on the 8th Clinton only narrowly beat him in New Hampshire. Harris and/or Warren need to show they can win, then hopefully the votes will follow.
Steeplejack
@trollhattan:
Congratulations! But how did the Hannahs do?
Steeplejack
@PsiFighter37:
Cool name!
Miss Bianca
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: All that lives, loves rotisserie chicken. And toast. Whether or not they actually eat them.
Emerald
@Butter Emails: Exactly. Early days yet.
Steeplejack
@schrodingers_cat:
Congrats!
zhena gogolia
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
I’m with your husband! I don’t know why Tux doesn’t do it for me. Such a cute cat!
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat:
Great!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I figured something like this would come out. From the authors of forthcoming book on Kavanaugh (I thought there was no “u”)
ETA: That last bit I find quite interesting– Kavanaugh knew this was coming. Then again, I guess we all expected some kind of deeper dive
Jim, Foolish Literalist
dammit, I’m in moderation with a link on the new Kavanaugh story because of the word pen*s, because it’s a story about Kavanaugh
Steeplejack
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
Dunno if this is the exact same model, but it should get people close.
Major Major Major Major
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: rescued ya
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Major Major Major Major: Grazie
Major Major Major Major
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: prego
MisterForkbeard
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think Kavanaugh and the Republicans just don’t care.
Absent video footage, they’ve gotten him over the hump and into the SC, and Republican Senators don’t have to pretend to care. They can just say “It’s more Democratic underhanded attempts to attack him and they can’t let it go. Feinstein sucks.” and move on.
Jackie
@Ohio Mom: @Ohio Mom: I bit them, too. I remembered how upset my Dad was when he accidentally cut my baby niece’s finger trying to trim her nails with a fingernail clipper – biting got the job done without accidents. Curious to know the “new rule?”
Brachiator
@schrodingers_cat:
Thanks for the background information on the visit.
Ohio Mom
@Jackie: I think it is because mouths are full of germs and if you break the newborn’s skin, the germs will go right in.
I’m not convinced but I say, whatever works for PsiFighter37. It’s nerve wracking being a first time parent, and I know we all want to cheer the new parents on.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Butter Emails: Obama won by 8 points, producing record turnout, in an all white state. That’s not “eked”.
Another Scott
@Ohio Mom: Plus, babies are always putting things in their mouths. (Dunno if that’s the reason.)
I don’t how worried one should be about parents germs getting into their kids via their fingernails, but we are learning that gut bacteria has a huge impact on our heath and lives so presumably one of these days they’ll have all this stuff figured out.
Cheers,
Scott.
Cacti
@Major Major Major Major:
That might actually be the only legit gripe that’s ever come out of the Bernie camp.
Warren should jettison Berniecare. It’s a general election loser.
geg6
@schrodingers_cat:
Not sure I understand your implication here. Please expand on your theory.
geg6
@Baud:
Exactly. I have seen no evidence this is true. She’s an okay candidate and I would have no trouble voting for her, but she hasn’t impressed me at all. Her fans, however, are approaching Berniebro levels of tunnel vision. Which makes me even more leery of her. For me right now, it’s Warren and Booker who I find impressive.
Jay
@Cacti:
Yeah, how are you ever going to pay for it?
It’s just another one of those thousands of things other Countries can do, but America can’t.
Even moreso with Orangemandius’s debt and deficit.
The only real solution is kill all the olds and cut taxes tor the jerb crator class.
Princess
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Darn! That’s ten minutes walk from my house and I go every year but I am out of town and not sure I’ll be back soon enough. But if I am I’ll come say hi.
Another Scott
OpenThread?
Twitter (reformatted):
(Boggle!!) :-(
While corner cases make bad law, someone should ask Biden and Castro (and all the rest) how their plans would handle such situations. Is everyone covered, or do they have to sign up first?
(via nycsouthpaw)
Grrr…
Cheers,
Scott.
Major Major Major Major
@Cacti: another way of looking at it would be that she’s ceded the point to him, which also suggests a very strong spin the Bernie camp could choose to give it… if they could stop feeling aggrieved
jl
@Major Major Major Major: I think it’s Bernie Bullshit (a phrase which will probably come in more and more handy as the primary progresses). One phrase made for rhetorical effect at the debate doesn’t mean Warren’s plan is the same as Sanders’. Warren’s Medicare for All plan is far more flexible and realistic about how to handle private insurance (I suspect to prepare the way for carve outs and grandpappy clauses for quality union plans). Which is why the purity left is making the absurd charge that Warren is really a GOP corporate shill.
I don’t think Sanders himself is responsible for a lot the Bernie Bullshit that appears in social media. But a lot of it is put out by the goofballs Sanders has hired, so he is ultimately responsible for it. But this is small beans right now. Sanders is smart enough to continue the explicit or implicit nonaggression pact during the debates, and they get far more attention that squabbling on twitter and similar social media hellholes.
schrodingers_cat
@geg6: Its not a theory its an observation that Warren is quite popular among white liberal women. On Balloon Juice FP, AL and BC are self declared Warren fans.
Spanish Moss
@Emerald:
Massachusetts replaces senators through election. Depending on when the seat becomes open, it is either a special election or a regular election.