Update on the Fracking Pad

Apparently the squeaky wheel does get the grease, and a big congratulations to Mayor Shirley Kemp (women- they get shit done) for getting the SWN people to come to town council where we could all yell at them, because they are erecting a 360 degree sound barrier.

That doesn’t solve all the other problems we will eventually have with fracking, but at least we will be able to sleep.

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    Brachiator says:

    because they are erecting a 360 degree sound barrier.

    Is that a dome?

    More seriously, I hope everything works out.

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    I love your mayor. Her comments on facebook and her responsiveness. It’s like freakin’ Mayberry.

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    Amen to that, John.

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    Keith P. says:

    @Brachiator: Joke’s on them…360 is the temperature. It’s a wall of fire. You won’t hear anything through the wall of flames.

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    Citizen_X says:

    Good job!

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    Yarrow says:


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    Spanky says:

    Am I the only one that reads “fracking” and remembers* that the original “Battlestar Galactica” used “frack” as substitute for “fuck”?

    * = or misremembering

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    Spanky says:

    @TaMara (HFG): “Like fracking Mayberry”, I think you mean.

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    CaseyL says:

    @Spanky: No. No, you are not. Very appropriate, eh? (Except BSG did spell it differently: Frak.)

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    Another Scott says:


    Along these lines, Twitter:

    Khorasan Tom @TomHeartsTanks

    Sometimes when I’m having a bad day I just remember that Minnesota has refused to return a captured confederate traitor flag despite repeated demands from Virginia over the last 156 years. Based on the ancient law of “Fuck You”.

    8:48 AM – 6 Sep 2019


    (via commiegirl1 on Twitter)


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    Duane says:

    You’ll be able to sleep provided you don’t think about all the other problems they cause. Good job getting their attention though. Now they know not to screw with you.

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    J R in WV says:

    Better to get them to stop work from 10 pm until 7 am, or other hours as defined by the mayor. The wall won’t do squat, as sound can go right over it. Plus, as you mentioned, the actual fracking will be noisy as hell, when they finish drilling the horizontal shafts and are ready to break up the rock structures under your town.

    Best of luck, though!!

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Another Scott: that’s why Minnesota will be the first target when the South rises again. Well, assuming it doesn’t rise in wintertime.

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    stinger says:

    Good work, Mr. Cole. The aerial view you posted kind of broke my heart — it looked like the top of the mountain had been removed, which it may have been in an earlier resource extraction operation.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    maybe some day people will notice, even care!

    Natasha Bertrand @ NatashaBertrand
    BREAKING: House Oversight is investigating whether US military expenditures have been propping up Trump Turnberry. A peculiar refueling stop in Glasgow by a US Air Force crew, who stayed overnight at the resort—there & back—tipped them off. Our exclusive:

    crews are using a British-owned airport for refueling, and staying at Turnberry. There’s a US air force base in England.

    One crew member was so struck by the choice of hotel — markedly different than the Marriotts and Hiltons the 176th maintenance squadron is used to — that he texted someone close to him and told him about the stay, sending a photo and noting that the crew’s per diem allowance wasn’t enough to cover food and drinks at the ritzy resort.


    David Frum @ davidfrum
    It’s 34 miles from Prestwick Airport to Trump Turnberry. Google counts 120 hotels witin near vicinity of Prestwick

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    ThresherK says:

    @Spanky: Pogo fans tend to add “rowrbazzle” to that.

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    Baud says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Rachel is on it right now.

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    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Off the top of head, there are several US Air Force Bases in England, Lakenheath and Mindenhall. The kid was at Lakenheath for 2 years.

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    geg6 says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Jesus fucking Christ. Just…Jesus fucking Christ.

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    TS (the original) says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Just listening to all that on Rachel – the biggest grifter in the world – using the US military to make money for trump Inc

    Pentagon will not discuss it with congress

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    TS (the original) says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: And according to Rachel, they usually stay in other European military bases – Spain, Germany or Italy

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    RSA says:


    “Battlestar Galactica” used “frack” as substitute for “fuck”?

    What the frell are you talking about? … Oh, yeah, I do remember!

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    Another Scott says:

    ICYMI, Wondermark – “Sigh!”



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    Jay says:

    Me: Hey what did they call the people who supported Hitler but didn't hate Jews?History: NazisMe: No, no. Just the ones who wanted a better economy and wanted to "make Germany great again."History: Nazis… https://t.co/wkDAYlnhn9— Alex Schiller (@alexdschiller) July 21, 2019

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    NotMax says:

    Is Mexico paying for this wall?


    Now watch – the outside of the barrier will turn out to be blindingly reflective.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I don’t remember “frak” from the original BSG with Lorne Greene, Richatd Hatch and, um, whatsisname. Surely you mean the new one?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Spanky: I remember thinking that was hilarious as a ten year old

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    debit says:

    @RSA: What you did there I have seen.

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    Jay says:

    Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg spoke in Arkansas today. There were so many RSVP's for the event that they had to move it from a library to an arena.More people showed up to see her than showed up at all but one Trump rally this year.In Arkansas. 😃— Alex Schiller (@alexdschiller) September 4, 2019

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Jay: I don’t know how Alex Schiller is, but I hope Debra Massing or Bette Middler retweet that so that The Beast will see it.

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    Jay says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Nope, frak was in the OG Battlestar as well. It was a way of using “swearwords” while avoiding the Censors. Serenity and Firefly paid homage to it by having characters curse in Mandarin.

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    Jay says:

    Baltimore prosecutors are preparing to file nearly 800 motions to vacate convictions that relied significantly on testimony from corrupt police officers under a new law that takes effect Oct. 1. https://t.co/vgTow39uhS— David Menschel (@davidminpdx) September 5, 2019

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    The inquiry is part of a broader, previously unreported probe into U.S. military expenditures at and around the Trump property in Scotland. According to a letter the panel sent to the Pentagon in June, the military has spent $11 million on fuel at the Prestwick Airport — the closest airport to Trump Turnberry — since October 2017,

    so… this started on St Mattis’ watch?

    ETA: I’m trying to imagine how far down the chain of command trump had to reach to get to refueling planes and getting hotel vouchers to the crews

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    HRA says:

    Moscow Mitch does not like having the funds for a school in Kentucky taken for the wall/fence. It is on CNN online and I will attempt to share the url.https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/politics/mcconnell-middle-school-trump-border-wall/index.html

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    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Self proclaimed Warrior monk aka Mad dog. He is good at PR.

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    Or as we called it at the time, “Battlestar Gacraptica.”

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    Chetan Murthy says:


    Or as we called it at the time, “Battlestar Gacraptica.”

    I was always fond of Mad Magazine’s soubriquet: “Battlestar Garlictica”.

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    Jay says:


    @Chetan Murthy:

    In it’s day, it was almost as good as it got.

    Too bad V turned out to be a documentary.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Moscow Mitch does not like having the funds for a school in Kentucky taken for the wall/fence being called “Moscow Mitch.”

    Please don’t call Moscow Mitch “Moscow Mitch” again.

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    Mary G says:

    Good job, John!

    This may be good:

    . @RonanFarrow just posted this to his Instagram stories. In the past, it has meant that he has a story forthcoming. pic.twitter.com/r6CJcuBXKK— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) September 7, 2019

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    Jay says:

    Talking about Ben Shapiro,….

    3) Bunch of larvae-dicked non-entities who’ve never made a woman laugh, cum or miss them. Go mewl about same-sex bathrooms and stay away from the creative people. None of you have friends your own age ‘cuz everyone can smell a narc.— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) September 5, 2019

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    Aleta says:

    Dan Sobien @pres_nwseo
    Let me assure you the hard working employees of the NWS had nothing to do with the utterly disgusting and disingenuous tweet sent out by NOAA management tonight #NOAA

    James Franklin @FranklinJamesL
    Concerning NOAA’s statement this afternoon throwing WFO Birmingham under the bus…I thought Birmingham’s statement Sunday morning that Alabama would see no impacts from Dorian was spot-on and an appropriate response to the President’s misleading tweet that morning.
NHC’s WSP product serves as guidance to forecasters, and it showed only a very small likelihood of tropical-storm-force winds in the state, and essentially zero chance of hurricane-force winds. The risk of significant impacts in Alabama by that time was virtually nil.

    * Based on my experience as an NHC forecaster, I saw no meteorological justification on Sunday for the President to add Alabama to the list of states that would “most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated”.

    * Lastly, It’s the job of forecasters to interpret the numerical guidance available to them, not to echo it back out verbatim. I’m surprised and disappointed that NOAA’s statement today seems to not recognize the value its forecasters add to NWS products and services every day.
    * You all did the right thing. Take heart, @NWSBirmingham

    David Titley @dwtitley
    Perhaps the darkest day ever for @noaa leadership. Don’t know how they will ever look their workforce in the eye again. Moral cowardice.

    Joan Anzelmo @JoanAnzelmo
It’s the political appointees not the career leadership at NOAA

    March for Science #ClimateStrike @NOAA
Enough is enough. We, the science community, must take action.
    * Please join us on strike on September 20:
    * #ClimateStrike #ScienceStrike

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    rikyrah says:

    She did a great job on it

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    Chetan Murthy says:


    Please don’t call Moscow Mitch “Moscow Mitch” again.

    I won’t be doing it. Instead, my bright red “Just Say Nyet to Moscow Mitch” t-shirt will do the talking for me.

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    rikyrah says:


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    wasabi gasp says:

    Not all women…just Shirleys.

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    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: And just to make clear which euphemism it was, the “new” BSG had a scene with two of the characters in bed, one of them screaming: “Frak me, frak me hard!”

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Sister Golden Bear: You gotta be frakkin’ kiddin’ me.

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    wasabi gasp says:

    Shirley so badass, she bust my link.

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    HRA says:

    LOL I have a collection of other words I could call him and hesitate in fear of having my deceased family members making a visit. :)
    The fraking nerve of this low life man.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Mary G: Ooh. Hope it’s really, really good.

    OT: just finished the New Yorker’s weekend online crossword puzzle.

    42 down

    __ uckup

    clue: make a mess of

    Alas …

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @HRA: Please to share? We all need more epithets to put in the rotation ….

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    The Lodger says:

    @Elizabelle: Clearly the word starts with an M.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @The Lodger: Clearly.

    I was liking F or S, though, and thinking the crossword author had fun.

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    Mary G says:

    Hoped it’d be about Trump, no such luck:

    How an elite university research center concealed its relationship with a sex offender—documents show MIT Media Lab accepted donations directed by Jeffrey Epstein far in excess of what the university has admitted to, and worked to cover it up: https://t.co/KTdYdCbZ6u— Ronan Farrow (@RonanFarrow) September 7, 2019

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Preet Bharara @ PreetBharara
    Allegations of Gov officials sending business to Trump:

    1. Trump to host G7 at his Doral resort

    2. Pence stayed at Trump resort 181 miles from Dublin

    3. Military planes refueled at Trump Scotland resort

    4. Bill Barr to host Xmas party at Trump Hotel

    House: Scorch the earth

    Bharara has been skeptical of impeachment, I believe

    this really is shocking, and the Pentagon in stiffing Congress in their inquiries

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    Ken says:

    BG also had “feldercarb.” I don’t think they ever said that it hit the fan, but it was used in equivalent phrases.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Facts Do Matter @ WilDonnelly
    It also wasn’t a one-off stop. No one knows yet how many US military flights were diverted to Prestwick, but a C-17 Hurcules has a fuel capacity of 28,000 gallons. Jet fuel is currently around $2.00 per gallon. So $11,000,000 in fuel is enough to fill a C-17 about 196 times.

    so… 196 flights, how many people on a crew ? We’re probably looking at several hundred rooms rented over the course of two years, by our tax dollars, at trump’s failing resort

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Ted Lieu @ tedlieu
    Dear Secretary of Defense @EsperDoD: This smells like corruption.

    Can you explain to the American people why US military personnel apparently went out of their way to fly to a @realDonaldTrump resort?

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    HRA says:

    @Chetan Murthy:
    I would except for the fact of many other other relatives swear they had been “visited”. So I play it safe and who knows when this pressure of what we (my vast family members (far and near) are living under daily will release me from the fear. It is getting close.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Mary G:

    In September, 2014, Ito wrote to Epstein soliciting a cash infusion to fund a certain researcher, asking, “Could you re-up/top-off with another $100K so we can extend his contract another year?” Epstein replied, “yes.” Forwarding the response to a member of his staff, Ito wrote, “Make sure this gets accounted for as anonymous.” Peter Cohen, the M.I.T. Media Lab’s Director of Development and Strategy at the time, reiterated, “Jeffrey money, needs to be anonymous. Thanks.”

    Yeah, that’s not good.

    (Also, for those not fluent in University Bureaucracy, ‘Development’ means ‘Raising Money From Rich People’.)

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    randy khan says:


    David Titley @dwtitley
    Perhaps the darkest day ever for @noaa leadership. Don’t know how they will ever look their workforce in the eye again. Moral cowardice.

    Joan Anzelmo @JoanAnzelmo
It’s the political appointees not the career leadership at NOAA

    NOAA does not have a permanent administrator (and in fact has not had one since January 2017). It’s being run by an acting administrator who’s an assistant secretary of Commerce and a political appointee, although I’m pretty sure the NOAA job is a political appointment, too, albeit usually someone who actually is knowledgeable about what NOAA does.

    My guess is that the statement was dictated at the Department of Commerce level. It may not even have touched anyone actually at NOAA.

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    Aleta says:

    These public servants and members of the military who serve the country and members of the administration and appointees who’ve enabled or joined the corruption the last two years. And people like Mattis who won’t speak out because (it seems to be implied) he has a higher code of conduct he must follow. You don’t suddenly lose your sense of ethical responsibility because of one situation you find yourself in, do you? They’ve been making these kinds of decisions in some form before Trump came along, haven’t they. No mercy for Pentagon officials or anyone in the chain of operations, military and non, who were ‘just following orders.’ They were already accustomed to looking the other way and shutting up.

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    dmsilev says:

    @randy khan: Almost cries out for some oversight hearings by the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. Let’s find out who wrote that release, and what communication from the White House preceded it.

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    Mary G says:

    Am I dreaming or was there an Adam post a couple of minutes ago?

    I tried to post this:

    Late night breaking news: "House panel to take formal steps on impeachment probe next week." @mkraju is live on @CNN now…— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) September 7, 2019

    I said they’d do it this fall.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Mary G: I saw it too. Was hoping he’d weigh in on the Scotland thing

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    TS (the original) says:

    @Aleta: There has to be a reckoning when a new president is elected in 2020 (If a fair election even happens). Who in the military would authorise crew to stop in Scotland & stay at a trump hotel? I just cannot believe the crew would decide that for themselves – and who would they complain to if they disagree with the order?

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    Congratulations on getting something done, John. Now you all just have to follow up and make sure they actually build the barrier.

    In other news, Ronan Farrow has another article on Jeffrey Epstein, this time about his contributions to the MIT Media Lab and how hard Joi Ito worked to keep Epstein’s name from showing up as a donor or facilitator of donations from others. I am looking forward to when Farrow investigates Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico. There was an article in the Santa Fe New Mexican this week about shady dealings in leases for the land around the ranch to assure Epstein’s privacy.

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    Aleta says:

    @randy khan
    T’s nominee to head NOAA Barry Myers (former CEO of AcuWeater) is still waiting for confirmation, because of opposition due to his conflicts of interest and other sleaze like stock profits. The GOP Senate is still trying to get him through. (If I remember, one of the main opponents to confirmation was a Dem Fla Senator who lost in 2018 election.)

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @TS (the original): I just cannot believe the crew would decide that for themselves – and who would they complain to if they disagree with the order?

    Rick Wilson (ex-DOD) said that military personnel are not supposed to stay at civilian hotels unless it’s “mission essential”

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    SRW1 says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    … sending a photo and noting that the crew’s per diem allowance wasn’t enough to cover food and drinks at the ritzy resort.

    So the spouses of the military guys/girls had to pack them some sandwiches for the flights? I mean surviving on the courtesy candy mighta been tough.

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    HRA says:

    John, I am very glad the mayor decided to get relief for you and the town residence from this terrible noise. I hope more can be done if this is not enough in the near future.

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    lgerard says:

    @TS (the original):

    Who in the military would authorise crew to stop in Scotland & stay at a trump hotel? I just cannot believe the crew would decide that for themselves – and who would they complain to if they disagree with the order?

    Staying in the hotel seems a secondary issue here. The real scandal is the diversion of military flights to a bankrupt airport in an effort to convince the Scottish government to keep it open. It seems that this airport is essential to trump’s business and if it closed he would have a giant problem.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:


    David Frum @ davidfrum
    There is always, always, always a tweet
    Donald J. Trump @ realDonaldTrump
    “Donald Trump pledges to make Prestwick Airport ‘really successful’”

    November, 2014

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    lgerard says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    “Speaking at a press conference at the airport, he said they expect to bring in “hundreds” of flights.”

    I guess he did keep one promise then.

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    Mathguy says:

    @Another Scott: I love those Minnesotans. The comments on the tweet are awesome.

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    sukabi says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Joy Reid subbing in for O’Donnell… Oversight committee has identified over 600 payments to Turnberry.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Not to be “that guy”, but…

    The C-17 is a big jet cargo plane. The “Globemaster”.

    The Hercules is a big propell[e]r plane. The C-130.

    It’s really sloppy to mix them up.

    That said, we have known for ages that Donnie would steal everything not nailed down if he thought he could get away with it. I’m glad this information is coming out about Pence’s staying at his resort, Donnie trying to skim away Pentagon money, etc., is coming out.


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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Spanky: @CaseyL: : Misremembering – it was BG 2.0

    @Jay: As usual, the Knucklehead of the Frozen North is full of shit. Icy shit. ICBM.

    And even if by some odd chance you happen to be correct for one very rare moment, you are still Full Of Shit, Knuck.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @NotMax: Either Mad or Cracked called it “Cattlecar Galactica.” The other called it “Battlestar Ponderosa.”

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @Uncle Cosmo: Ah, it was Cracked that called it Battlestar Garlictica: https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=965825

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    TriassicSands says:

    With any luck, John, you’ll be able to use your kitchen sink faucet as a blowtorch. Ah, the hidden perks of fracking.

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    Central Planning says:

    @Another Scott:

    The C-130.

    I once saw a C-130 take off from our local airport. It was gigantic. I could hear the hum of the propellers from my car, and that massive plane looked like it would fall out of the sky because it seemed to be hardly moving during takeoff. It was amazing.

    2 weekends ago our airport also hosted an airshow. I was picking up a rental while some fighter jet was doing acrobatics around the airport. The jet engines vibrated my insides which was awesome. I can only imagine that being terrifying if it was flying overhead during a war.

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    EthylEster says:

    Because this is a thread about energy I post the link below. I’d like folks here to comment/elucidate the project it references. I have questions but am NOT going to create a samefacts account to pose them. When the account creation screen tells you that it’s not secure, I stop.


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    Steeplejack (phone) says:


    This thread is dead as a doornail; maybe repost this on a newer thread.

    I happen to be reading only because I’m trying to get caught up on a bunch of old threads.

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