Situations like this story are why we protect the 2nd Amendment.
Side note: With universal background checks, I wouldn’t be able to let my friends borrow my handgun when they travel alone like this. We would make felons out of people just for defending themselves. https://t.co/x60mdd1WW1
— Dan Crenshaw (@DanCrenshawTX) September 4, 2019
He said this. Out loud. For everyone to see. A member of congress is handing out guns to people who couldn’t pass a background check.
lumpkin
This is why we need universal gun registration and strict liability for the owner.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@lumpkin: Yup, treat ’em like a car.
Balconesfault
She’s just lucky they grabbed her purse and not the bag she had her gun in. There’s no evidence whatsoever that these men were actually armed or had any intention to do bodily harm to her.
I’m not saying they didn’t deserve to be shot… But it’s only lucky happenstance that the result wasn’t much worse.
TenguPhule
Donald Trump congratulated Poland for being invaded by Nazi Germany.
Amir Khalid
Presumably Mr Crenshaw would also happily hand over his car keys to a friend without a driving licence.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Amir Khalid: …who may have had just a couple of drinks.
BruceFromOhio
That gets an A+ rating from the NRA!
Vote for me! I’ll give you my gun!
TenguPhule
That was the old boring law abiding military. Today we have the Trump military where big burly man call him Sir and tell him tearfully that he must take their money and spend it on a wall.
Honus
No, Mr. Crenshaw, you should not be allowed to loan your handgun to anyone you want to. Only qualified people should carry and use firearms.
I am qualified to use explosives. I cant just lend them to anybody I might feel needs to blow something up.
The phrase “shit for brains” keeps coming to mind more and more these days.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Honus:
Jeez, you’re no fun.
Jeffro
“YOU CAN’T EXPECT ME TO ‘NOT’ LOAN OUT MY GUNS TO WIFE-BEATERS AND THE CRIMINALLY INSANE, I MEAN, IS THIS RUSSIA OR WHAT?” OH WAIT…
Barbara
OT sort of — WaPo tells me that Jim Sensenbrenner is the 12th Republican to retire from the House this cycle. Not a real pick up opportunity.
NotMax
Then: “Can I borrow a cup of sugar?”
Now: “Can I borrow a box of bullets?”
//
Brendan in NC
Crenshaw is a Ron White two-fer. “You can’t fix stupid”; and “I had the RIGHT to remain silent, but I didn’t have the ABILITY.”
lollipopguild
@NotMax:” Would you like a cup of sugar with your box of bullets?”
Honus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: actually I’ve been using explosives since I was about 14, and it’s been a lot of fun. But I’m not advocating giving dynamite to middle schoolers as a constitutional right just because my dad was an earthmoving contractor in the 1960s.
Just One More Canuck
“This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth. Perhaps we should shoot him.”
Jeffro
Someone should ask Crenshaw exactly 1) what kinds of wusses he has for friends, that need a 2) loaned handgun to defend themselves 3) when/wherever they travel? Let’s hear more about these friends, the kinds of ‘dangers’ they are facing and where, and how exactly are they traveling?
MEDIA, I’m tired of doing your job for you! You could follow up on this stuff for days (ok, at least A day/news cycle). Please proceed, Rep Crenshaw. Tell us alllll about it….
Jeffro
@Honus:
See this is the kind of commie pinko LOLOL never mind I can’t even fake it…it’s too hard to channel their craziness…(the Repubs AND the news media’s)
“Free dynamite for teens: opinions differ. Welcome to…the Situation Room!”
joel hanes
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
you’re no fun
you fell right over.
Balconesfault
@Barbara: not a real pickup opportunity, but I am assuming that the GOP will need to spend more money taking the seat then just defending an incumbent.
Honus
@Jeffro: I’m also pretty good with a rifle but I don’t think 10 year olds should have pink semi-auto .22s.
Jeffro
Still looking for the phrase in the 2nd Amendment that says “…well-regulated militia, plus also the ability to loan a gun or three to my bros who couldn’t pass a background check if their lives depended upon it…shall not be infringed”
Must be in the small print.
Honus
@joel hanes: god bless firesign
eric
@Just One More Canuck: that is in the top 3 hardest laughs i have ever had!
Duane
“Is that my gun in your pocket, or just glad to see me?”
Gravenstone
@Barbara: Maybe not a pick up, but good riddance to absolute garbage. Now, if only he could convince his colleague (and my representative*) Grothman to pack it in as well.
eric
@eric: i did not have permission to edit…..the number 2 was an episode of simpsons where maggie gets the nail gun. and tied for number 1 are two scenes from archer … one involving Alabama and the other involving Pele.
Amir Khalid
Come to think of it, lending guns out to unlicenced friends sounds like the sort of irresponsible conduct that brings about (or should, anyway) the forfeiture of a gun licence.
Duane
@Jeffro: These clowns serve it up on a silver platter. Keep talking you idiots.
Elections are coming up. People start paying attention.
Jeffro
@Honus:Wait, what? it’s almost like you’re taking a nuanced and thought out position here ;)
Crenshaw’s version, “How are my friends supposed to live their lives in peace and be safe (from the voices in their heads) if they don’t give their 10-year-olds pink semi-auto 22s? HOW???”
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Mr Gutowski writes for the Free Beacon, teaches firearm safety classes, makes a point of telling us in his twitter bio that he is a “Christian”, and has a curious idea of the issues involved in the American Revolution. I believe Son of Erick is also noisy about his religiosity
Why do you need that gun?
To protect the gun.
Um… okay.
Jeffro
@Duane: EXACTLY. I think the best thing Dems can do is just keep asking: so the Republicans are saying there’s just NOTHING we can do here, on any front, about gun violence in America? No way to study it, no way to curb it, no way to spare tens or even hundreds of families from these tragedies? Just let it keep happening?
And let that question hang there
Another Scott
@NotMax: Twitter (reprise):
… but I can go buy a gun.but Thank God I can borrow one from Dan Crenshaw!Cheers,
Scott.
Martin
I have an idea. States can ban gun ownership and possession, but in exchange, all of the seized/bought back guns will be freely distributed to random people in the states that don’t ban guns provided those people don’t come to the gun controlled states. Everybody wins! California gets the gun control we want, and Texas gets every an AR-15 in the hands of every rando criminal which apparently is what they want.
Major Major Major Major
Keeeeriiiist.
cynn
Let’s just arm wildlife and be done with it.
coin operated
Uh huh…and this mofo would be the first to say something if a POC went on a shooting rampage with a ‘borrowed’ gun.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
also, we sometimes talk about the next trump, the one with the same demagogic instincts but a bit less crude, I think it could be Crenshaw. Tom Cotton doesn’t scare me cause he’s creepy. I haven’t paid much attention to Josh Hawley, but in terms of cynicism, ambition, bio and media manipulation, Crenshaw could go places. I don’t mean that in a good way, for us.
Steve in the ATL
Has PsiFighter37 bought his newborn daughter her first gun yet?
gene108
I often wonder what Republicans learn, when they go to Ivy League schools. Crenshaw has a bachelor’s from Tufts and an MPA from Harvard.
And he tweets stuff like this out.
Either he’s playing to the white gun humpers out there, and their fears of gun confiscation*, or he never cracked open a book during class.
* At this point, I think they are making their fears come true, like a self fulfilling prophecy, because the longer they block any attempt to address the problems of mass shootings in malls, mass shootings in school, etc., people are just going to get fed up with their shit and do what they most fear by confiscating all the guns.
SectionH
Our Democratic rep. Susan Davis also announced this afternoon that she’s retiring from Congress. She’s 75, has held the job for 20 years, and maybe just wants to take it a bit easier. In her announcement, she said, “My decision today represents a desire to live and work ‘at home’ in San Diego.”
She’s never been much in the spotlight, but I’ve been very happy with her as our rep. CA-53 is a pretty safe D seat. Will have to see who gets in for the primary.
wasabi gasp
Swab his poop deck, John!
Mr Stagger Lee
Congressman Gohmert, you need to call your office, your title as Dumbest Congressman From Texas is in danger.
Another Scott
Twitter:
Hmm…
Cheers,
Scott.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Mike Pompeo was first in his class at West Point, Harvard Law. Ben Sasse (accent grave on the e) has PhD in history from Yale. Michelle Bachmann, she of the far-away eyes, has a JD from William and Mary, which I think is no slouch, academically, and had as I understand a respectable career handling complex tax law.
I think the first and third are basically religious whack jobs, and Sasse is a manipulative cynic, but he’s got nothing on Crenshaw, who I think may prove to be at least as cynical and ruthless as Gingrich without the Macy’s parade balloon buffoonery. And did you know he’s a wounded combat veteran? I’m sure he doesn’t like to talk about it. I wouldn’t sleep on that MoFo.
Jeffro
@gene108: I think they’ve drunk too much of their own Kool-Aid, and think that we really won’t solve the problem until everyone in the country is open-carrying 24/7. Never mind that some other countries seems to have solved the problem in other ways.
They want the guns available on demand for multiple historical and psychological reasons (reasons, not excuses). I think our reasons are better. I’m glad it’s turning into a voting issue.
Another Scott
BBC: No No-deal Brexit bill will get through the House of Lords on Friday (i.e. they won’t filibuster it to death) as a result of a deal with Labour.
Boris must be even more furious.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steve in the ATL
@Another Scott: I have trouble understanding their processes. Where’s Tony Jay to make me even more confused?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steve in the ATL: there were two Brit commentators on MSNBC tonight. One saying Boris has a cunning plan and it’s going according to his wishes, he actually wants no-deal Brexit cause it makes him look tough and all those silly details will sort themselves out. Another says he has no idea what he’s doing and he’s hopping for panic to panic without a clue. Sound familiar?
The most depressing thing I’ve heard (from Ben Rhodes, Obama’s aide) is that there’s a good chance that new elections will bring an even more pro-Brexit Conservative majority.
Another Scott
@Steve in the ATL: He’s moving his clothes down onto the lower peg… (6:06) (NSFW)
Cheers,
Scott.
The Dangerman
Simpsons.
Anne Laurie
Dammit, Cole, I was saving this for a Late Night Open Thread with the title “Dan Crenshaw Has 30-50 Feral Friends, Probably”…
Chip Daniels
John’s tweet is on point.
The US military has more restrictions on guns than any liberal would ever dare dream of.
Because they fucking know what guns do.
Kay
Warren was the best at the climate debate.
jeffreyw
Martin
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: ‘Educated’ and ‘smart’ are different words for a reason.
NotMax
Who here hasn’t had experience with lending friends or neighbors something and then never having it returned?
Martin
@Anne Laurie: Ok, that is millions better than Cole’s title.
Taobhan
It strikes me that Crenshaw was just throwing out a hypothetical to counter AOC’s argument. I mean, he wouldn’t be stupid enough to lend a gun to a friend who doesn’t have one, especially if that friend has never owned a gun, shot a gun before or had any training on how to handle one. That action would be extremely reckless, particularly if that friend ended up killing himself/herself (or an innocent person) with the gun or even having it stolen from them. I owned guns many years ago and know it’s a serious responsibility to have guns around the house. I don’t want one now (no need because I’ve come to loath hunting) and think it would be appropriate to require gun owners to buy liability insurance in case the gun is used negligently and causing great harm. Maybe even those who sell guns should be required to buy liability insurance in case the gun buyer uses it in a negligent manner. In my state, we’re required to have liability insurance to register a car – not sure why guns should be treated differently.
Brachiator
@jeffreyw:
Bob Dylan and George Bernard Shaw each have an Oscar and a Nobel Prize. Both won the Nobel Prize for Literature. Dylan won a Best Song Oscar. Shaw won an Oscar for the screenplay for Pygmalion. The only two people who have accomplished this.
So, Obama winning an Oscar would put him in a very special group.
Wapiti
If his buddies don’t already have a concealed permit and a weapon already, why does he keep them as friends? They’re probably liberals.
Mike in NC
Boris Johnson must wish he’d planned a holiday this week in the Bahamas.
Another Scott
@Taobhan: Guns are treated differently because they’re specifically mentioned in the Constitution while cars, etc., aren’t. That doesn’t mean guns can’t be regulated (the 2nd Amendment has the word “regulated” of course, as does Scalia’s DC v Heller decision), but it does make it more difficult (at least rhetorically) until Heller is re-decided/overturned/etc.
I appreciate (and agree with!) the need for regulation/registries/licensing/insurance and all the rest, but it’s not a very strong argument given the post-Heller legal (and rhetorical) landscape, IMHO. At least I haven’t seen such an argument thus far.
Cheers,
Scott.
Calouste
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The opposition at the moment is pretty sure that Johnson doesn’t know what he is doing, and that having the public exposed to that for a few weeks would won’t do the prospects of the Tories in the upcoming elections much good. IOW, give ‘m rope and let ‘m dangle. His performances in the House of Commons so far have been pretty dire.
trollhattan
UB40, IB100. Concert night. On Wednesday?
NotMax
@Brachiator
Also, in addition to Bob Dylan and Barack Obama, the others who have won a Nobel and a Grammy are MLK, Jr., Mikhail Gorbachev, and Jimmy Carter.
Brachiator
@Another Scott:
Here is where things get to be fun.
The bill could be given royal assent by the Queen and become law on Monday September 9.
However, BoJo could ask that the Queen withhold royal assent. Instant British constitutional crisis.
Wapiti
@Chip Daniels: Yup. For example, in the military, just having an “accidental” discharge is serious. Typically the weapon went off because it wasn’t on safe or the owner didn’t properly clear the weapon – non-accidental user fails.
Calouste
@Brachiator: The trick that the opposition uses is that they either get concessions from Johnson, which make him look weak in the eyes of the Brexiteers, or have him do something egregious, which puts off the more moderate Tories. Having him expel 21 MPs including a number of former cabinet ministers and the grandson of Winston Churchill was a good start of the latter. Johnson has gotten away with promising a lot of different things to different people, so it’s time to have the rubber hit the road. Not asking for Royal Assent probably pisses off enough people that there will be a vote of no confidence.
Honus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: yeah, it could result in violence. Somebody could shoot up a movie theater or a school or a nightclub or a concert or a wal-mart store or a congressional baseball game or something.
Matt McIrvin
@Jeffro: If you listen to Erickson, or Meghan McCain or the super Christians who blame “keeping God out of the schools”, it all really amounts to the same thing: mass shootings are an expression of their displeasure, and the way to stop mass shootings is to obey them. Sooner or later they’ll go full terrorist and just make it explicit: vote for us or we will murder you in the street. The alt-right fash already have.
NotMax
@Calouste
The British tabloids thrive on being cutting, so somewhat surprised none has (AFAIK) trotted out the sobriquet Pissraeli for Boris.
Honus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: but they’re not elites!! None of them would ever put mustard on a cheesesteak.
Jay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Little tip about Parliamentary Elections,
Unless they show the polling riding by riding and show their math, anybody talking about who probably wins, is talking out their ass.
In Parliamentary systems you elect your MP from a multiple of Parties.
Your riding might go Labour, and the riding right next door, with the exact same Voter metrics, might go LibDem.
If a Party get’s an absolute majority of elected MP’s, they get to form the Government. If a Party gets the most MP’s, but not a majority, they get the first chance, ( 14 days) to gather a official or unofficial Coelition Government. If they don’t manage, the Options are 2nd place gets a chance, or if there is no chance, the Parliament can be prorogued and new elections held.
The leader of the Party that manages to form the Government, get’s to be PM, provided they won the election in their riding. If they didn’t, then ususally a Junior MP in a safe riding steps down for them and a byelection is help.
As an example, Scheer and the Cons are leading Trudeau and the Liberals in the popular vote, by +3,
However, Trudeau and the Liberals are currently projected to have 219 seats to the Con’s 182, and current probabilities are 38% that Trudeau and the Liberals will win a Majority, 26% a minority.
There is a 10% probability that Scheer and the Cons could win a majority, 0% probability that they could form a minority Government.
What happened yesterday in the House, and Lords, was the MP’s pulled Boris de Piffle Johnson’s majority,
and reaffirmed that Legislative power resides in the House and Lords,
Today the House and Lords reaffirmed that the House and Lords have the right to vote on and enact Legislation that bans a No Deal Brexit, and compels the Government to ask for an extension to Article 50 to January ( I forget the exact date) or any date the EU agrees to,
And only once this is done and decided, then and only then will the House and the Lords consider to allow Boris de Piffle Johnson to call an election.
Ruckus
@Honus:
Shit for brains may be a step up for these morons. A big, fucking giant step up from the lowest form of whatever is below shit on the evolutionary scale.
dmsilev
@Matt McIrvin: Has anyone asked Erickson or one of his ilk why more-secular-than-the-US Europe isn’t drowning in mass murders?
Amir Khalid
@Jay:
Finally, a spelling I can get behind.
Another Scott
@dmsilev: Are you sure you want their answer to that?
Mises.org:
Whataboutery is a clue that the argument they present isn’t going to be a reasonable one…
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
Ruckus
@coin operated:
I see you are familiar with Ronnie Raygun and the Black Panthers. And the NRA – that’s the National Racist Association.
Jay
@Taobhan:
Guess you don’t follow A Well Regulated Militia on twitter.
In ‘Murikkka, guns enable stupid. Moar Gunz, moar stupid.
Mandalay
For those wondering how Crenshaw even managed to get elected, check out the shape of his gerrymandered district.
Ruckus
@Mr Stagger Lee:
Do you really think he can use a phone?
mrmoshpotato
Ugh. Pete Davidson was too nice saying this idiot looked like a hitman in a porno movie.
Jay
Jay
Jay
mrmoshpotato
@Honus: Silly Honus. The only way to stop a bad guy with a lit stick of dynamite is a good guy with a lit stick of dynamite.
Jay
Just three of ten examples of A Well Regulated Militia today alone.
Jay
@mrmoshpotato:
No, silly, you need a Roadrunner with a lit stick of dynamite.
Jay
30 – 50 Feral Pigs,
Jay
Martin
@Brachiator: I just wanna say, I’m fucking showing up when he goes for that Tony.
ThresherK
@Jay: I thought you had posted the same thing 3x because of FYWP.
mrmoshpotato
@Jay: Meep BOOM!
Jay
@ThresherK:
Yeah nope, 3 of 10 shootings reported today alone, and not every shooting even goes reported.
Jay
For overnight:
Redshift
I think we can safely conclude that most gun-humpers have read the same percentage of the Heller decision as most evangelicals have read of the Bible
Brachiator
@Calouste:
As Jay has noted, the Rebel Alliance want to make sure that “no deal BREXIT” is off the table before agreeing to a no confidence vote to trigger a general election.
The fighting is sharp, up close and personal now. Some dirty deals have been avoided, but there might be a few more tricks to be played.
For example, if I understand correctly, BoJo could say the general election will be October 15. The government still is in power, but Parliament is now dissolved. Technically, there are now no MPs. Then Johnson says, “you know what, I like October 30 better for the general election.” Done, and no one could stop him.
Amir Khalid
@Brachiator:
Once Parliament is dissolved ahead of a general election, the PM himself is also no longer an elected MP, and has only limited caretaker powers. (At least, that’s how it works in Malaysia’s parliamentary system which was copied from the British.) These limited powers don’t including screwing around with the election date, fixed by law at a specified number of days (30 in Malaysia) after dissolution of Parliament. BoJo could try it anyway, being BoJo, but he might not succeed.