Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Hurricane Dorian

Stay safe, everyone in Dorian’s path — hope those of you who’ve had to, or will have to, evacuate are able to check in when you get the chance.

For those of us watching and worrying from a distance:

And, because this is Balloon Juice…

She continued: “We may not get hit as hard as other islands and the saddest part is that after the hurricane leave the Bahamas, some islands will take a long time to recover…Each island has [an] abundance of homeless dogs, my heart is so broken for the ones without a place to hide.”

Phillips told ABC News she has spent 15 years rescuing homeless dogs and finding them homes in the United States. Her story has been widely circulated online, prompting an outpouring of support and financial donations to support her rescue efforts…

105 replies
  1. 1
    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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    Quinerly says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning from Poco and his tribe!

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    rikyrah says:

    Morning to Poco and the tribe 🤗 😻🐢

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    What a compassionate woman Ms. Phillips is to rescue so many homeless dogs. And kudos to Chef Andres for feeding people in need wherever they are. A true hero.

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    Baud says:


    Good morning.

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    Baud says:

    So many doggies!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


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    RAVEN says:

    Stick a fork in me. . .

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @RAVEN: Nope, not quite done.

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    Raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: maybe some shoutin!

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    satby says:

    @RAVEN: Congrats!
    @OzarkHillbilly: 😘@rikyrah: 🙋

    We’re a generous bunch here at jackal central, and I know there’s way too much need competing for our resources, but Ms. Phillips will have a basically uninhabitable house by the time this is over, along with still needing to keep all those dogs fed. So if you have a few coins to send her you can be sure they’ll be gratefully received.
    And I always contribute to Chef Andres because he’s amazing in his ability to just get in and get people fed while the rescue orgs are still spinning up a response.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Raven: Is the fat lady still warming up? Or is she into the final aria?

    Congrats either way.

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    rikyrah says:

    Congratulations 🎉🎈

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    rikyrah says:

    Nothing but a drug dealer 😠😠😠

    Raw Story (@RawStory) Tweeted:
    Louisiana congressman’s pharmacies sold 1.5 million opioids to towns with population of 6,000 people
    https://t.co/XUbJIxuspv https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1168661842681618436?s=17

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    rikyrah says:

    Patriot Coburn (@PatriotCoburn) Tweeted:
    Holy Shit the protesters in Hong Kong are grabbing the canisters of tear gas dropping it into liquid nitrogen and turning it into its harmless solid form. https://t.co/MskDny3MCw https://twitter.com/PatriotCoburn/status/1168006395884519425?s=17

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    JPL says:

    @rikyrah: That seems bad, but you know IOKIYR.

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    Baud says:


    Happy day!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Brussels has responded with bafflement at Boris Johnson’s claims of progress in the Brexit talks, with EU officials warning that discussions are going nowhere.

    The prime minister and his cabinet have insisted that the outlines of a deal are in the making and that attempts by MPs to rule out a no-deal exit will kill that positive momentum.

    But officials said that more than two weeks after Johnson’s meeting with the German chancellor Angela Merkel, no alternatives to the backstop had been tabled and that there had instead been a renewed clash over Brussels’ need for an immediately legally operable solution for Ireland.
    But EU sources said that the talks so far had offered little confidence that any proposals made by London would be close to acceptable to the European commission which wishes to ensure frictionless trade on the island of Ireland in all circumstances, and to maintain the all-Ireland economy as it is today. “Where have these people been for the last two years?”, asked one EU official.
    Downing Street today denied claims that Johnson’s strategist, Dominic Cummings, has privately described the talks in Brussels as a “sham”, but EU officials are increasingly concerned that this is the case.

    The former chancellor Philip Hammond also told Radio 4’s Today programme that it was “nonsense” to suggest there had been any progress in Brussels, adding that the British government did not even have a negotiating team.
    In response to the EU’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier’s statement over the weekend that the EU will not renege from the backstop, the Brexit secretary, Stephen Barclay, told the German newspaper, Die Welt on Tuesday, that he believed the member states were coming round to the UK position.

    “This is in contrast to the position I have heard in several EU capitals. They are open to creative and flexible solutions and are interested in seeing the details from the UK,” said Barclay “we will leave the EU on 31 October, with or without a deal.”

    Details which will never be forthcoming because, “we haven’t got any ideas, trust us”

    Sounds an awful lot like the Republicans’ promise to replace a repealed ACA with the “best healthcare plan ever.”

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    Raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: see here how everything, leads up to this day. And it’s just like any day, that’s ever been.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @rikyrah: A headline soon to be seen: “State Capitol Republicans introduce new legislation barring the possession of the chemical nitrogen in it’s dangerous liquid form”

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    JPL says:

    @Raven: When do you go fishing?

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    JPL says:

    The pictures from the Grand Bahamas are horrifying, and it’s going to take a long, long time for them to recover. Jose Andres has been preparing meals and hopes to deliver them today, but the damn storm needs to move first.

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    Raven says:

    @JPL: 3 weeks.

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    satby says:

    A red sky morning here. Big storm system heading through the Midwest, part of the high pressure system keeping Dorian stuck.

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    Baud says:

    U.S. presidential candidate Booker proposes $3 trillion climate change plan

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @RAVEN: Happy day! Congrats on both your official retirement and semicentennial of your return from the Nam.

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    Spanky says:

    @RAVEN: Ah, so a fellow gentleman of leisure now, eh? Welcome to the club and prepare for some psychological realignments.

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    Spanky says:

    @Baud: Sounds rather low, actually.

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    Ken says:

    That CNN image from space was terrifying. Then I realized it was taken through a circular window, and I wasn’t seeing the whole Earth. Now it’s just – well, still terrifying, but not apocalyptic.

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    Baud says:


    The story says it promises this.

    vowing to reach a 100% clean energy economy by 2045 by sharply curbing fossil fuels while investing heavily in renewable energy sources.

    I haven’t looked at the details.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Intimate portraits of Barack and Michelle Obama – in pictures

    This one cracks me up: “1 March 2008
    Providence, Rhode Island. Barack does press interviews by phone between events. When he sees Shell photographing his shoes, he says he has already had them resoled once since he entered the race. They were his lucky shoes.”

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    NotMax says:

    Chinese lunar rover Yutu-2 has rolled over a strange mystery on the far side of the Moon. At the bottom of a small, recent impact crater, the rover found a shiny unknown substance the Chinese space agency described as a “gel with a mysterious lustre”.

    Although Chinese scientists have not yet revealed what it might be, the best guess from external scientists, according to Space.com, is that the material is glass that formed in the heat of the impact that left the crater. Source

    Pretty sure we’ve seen this plot before in fiction… ;)

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    laura says:

    @RAVEN: Congratulations as you saunter over the finish line and settle in loafer’s paradise! I hope that you realize there’s going to be fretting until your safely returning from the upcoming fishing trip with the emotional support yellowfin tuna.

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    Kay says:

    Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke released a trade plan Thursday that would end President Donald Trump’s tariffs on China and make various reforms meant to boost American workers.

    Smart. Democrats should own trade the same way they own health care. Like with healthcare, the Republican Party is in complete disarray on it and have gotten nothing done.

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    NotMax says:


    Laissez les bons temps rouler.

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    Baud says:


    I’m glad to see him not be cagey about the tariffs. I don’t know that other candidates have been so straightforward.

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    Raven says:

    @Spanky: yea, I’ve been reading up. I have an undergrad and masters in rec and leisure studies and a doc in adult ed so I hope I can figure it out

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    Raven says:

    @laura: you can tuna piano. . .

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    debbie says:


    Over the finish line! Congratulations!

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    Kay says:


    To me, it’s like Trump and the GOP came unprepared on all these issues. Came out swinging, but now that it’s time to produce they are all over the place (even within the Party) and have nothing real to offer. Health care most notably, but also trade and guns and climate change. They haven’t really done anything for the last 4 years. They haven’t reconciled any of Trump’s positions with their own and Trump’s “positions’ are just loud boasting and lying.

    More and more it’s “Democrats think THIS and…what is it Republicans think?” There’s really one political Party v Donald Trump.

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    debbie says:


    If there has to be a raise-your-hand question at the next debate, let it be in answer to: Do you believe tariffs are counterproductive and ineffective, and will you work to end the current escalation?

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    I can’t figure out how to copy the picture of this poem, “Small Kindnesses.” So I’m just going to link. It’s wonderful.

    And I like all jackal hats.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: And we should totally disturb that gel. What could go wrong? Any report of a strange dog running around the Moon?

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    Another Scott says:

    @Kay: Yup. They think that as long as they whisper sweet nothings to their base then everything will be fine.

    They still haven’t passed a FY20 budget because the Senate has done absolutely nothing with the bills that the House sent over months ago.

    Mariel Saez, a spokeswoman for House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said the tight timeframe—lawmakers will have just three weeks upon returning from their summer break to keep agencies funded—has opened the door to a stopgap measure.

    “Mr. Hoyer’s preference is to fund the government in September, but the Senate, for the first time in decades, hasn’t marked up a single appropriations bill in subcommittee,” Saez said. “While the House has acted and wants to go to conference with the Senate on appropriations bills as soon as possible, there is a possibility that we will need a short-term CR to provide time for the Senate to do its work.”

    A second House Democratic aide was more resigned to the need for a continuing resolution.

    “Given how far behind the Senate is in processing appropriations bills, a CR will be necessary to avert a government shutdown,” the aide said. “A CR for all of government through late November or early December will provide a measure of certainty and allow Congress to complete its work.”

    Oh, yeah? Well Beto said a bad word, so both sides!!1



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    Baud says:


    When is the last time the GOP pushed a real policy proposal to deal with anything? It predates Trump. You might have to go back to W. He had awful proposals but he still had proposals.

    I’m a little worried we’ll be fractured as well in 2021, but we’ll have to cross that bridge when we get to it.

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    zhena gogolia says:



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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    Came out swinging, but now that it’s time to produce they are all over the place (even within the Party) and have nothing real to offer. Health care most notably, but also trade and guns and climate change. They haven’t really done anything for the last 4 years.

    I have to disagree Kay.

    Health care? Tax cuts for the rich.
    Trade? Tax cuts for the rich.
    Guns? Tax cuts for the rich.
    Climate change? Tax cuts for the rich.

    They haven’t really done anything for the last 4 years? Tax cuts for the rich.

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    Ken says:

    @Baud: As long as we don’t burn that bridge ahead of us.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @debbie: @Kay: “Also, how are the tariffs the Democrats’ fault?”

    *preemptively punches Chuck Todd*

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    Baud says:


    No promises.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    On mass shootings:

    “It’s tragic and at some point we have to realize we have a problem as a nation, and the problem is not the absence of laws, it’s an absence of morality – really, the result of a decades-long march through the institutions of America, driving religion and God from the public square,”

    Says the black hole of morality named Tony Perkins.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Another Scott: They’ve been whispering? Seems more like yelling racist bullshit to me!

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    Baud says:


    They’ve had the same message for centuries. Hopefully, their support of Trump will an eternal albatross around their necks.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Baud: Baud, how dare you! The Rethuglican party has been pushing policies for years to deal with the cronic problem of the rich being taxed at all! :)

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @rikyrah: Just FTR, during the post-Cambodia student disturbances of spring 1970, Baltimore City cops came onto the Johns Hopkins Homewood campus & started lobbing tear gas canisters into a crowd of Hoppie students outside the dorms. Now the major sport at JHU was (& is) lacrosse – & some of the crowd retreated to their rooms, re-emerged with lax sticks & began scooping up the canisters & flinging them back at the cops, who retreated in disarray.

    (Moral: Do not lightly chuck tear gas into a crowd at a lacrosse-playing school!)

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    A vegan in Western Australia who took her neighbours to the supreme court with complaints about the smell of meat and fish from their barbecues has said she is considering further potential legal action.

    The court and the state’s administrative tribunal have both thrown out Cilla Carden’s complaints about her neighbours, including their cooking smells, cigarette smoke, chairs scraping on concrete, reflective light and the sounds of children playing basketball and pet birds.

    Carden, a massage therapist who lives at Girrawheen in Perth’s north, says the ongoing dispute has robbed her of quality of life and claimed her neighbours actions are deliberate.

    “They’ve put it there so I smell fish, all I can smell is fish,” Carden told Nine. “I can’t enjoy my backyard, I can’t go out there.”

    Here’s an idea: Move.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Has it been proposed yet that the bastards’ tax cuts get tax cuts?

    “Oh won’t someone pleeeeease think about the tax cuts!”

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: So the morality void shoots bullets at innocent people? Interesting.

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    NotMax says:


    “Throw another soybean on the barbie” will never gain a foothold as a catchphrase.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I hear the Aussie outback is nice this time of year.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    The newly-sworn-in government of Ukraine, with a median age of 39, is the youngest in Europe. The President is 41.

    The median age of the US Senate is 61. The median age of Democratic House leadership is 72. The President is 73, and the median age of his three leading Democratic challengers is over 74.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: I find it very hopeful that they sound more and more desperate as their numbers grow fewer and fewer.

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    Baud says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    The Senate is younger than I thought.

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    NotMax says:


    “The children were nestled
    All snug in their beds
    While visions of sugar prawns
    Danced in their heads”


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    Baud says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Also too, the only person too old to lead is Hillary Clinton.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Gin & Tonic: One of these days, soon I hope, I am going to put,
    “Stop letting old f**ks like me decide your future. Vote!”
    on the back of my truck.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @RAVEN: Congratulations. 🎉 Retirement has been one of the best parts of my life. Hope it’s the same for you.

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    Baud says:


    “Old man telling me to vote? I’ll show him.”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: Heh. The very words my teenage self would have replied with.

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    Raven says:

    @Gelfling 545: Thanks, you can’t win if you don’t play!

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    Josie says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Thanks for this. I love it.

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    joel hanes says:


    More and more it’s

    It’s been Cleek’s Law for going on twenty years, maybe more.

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    joel hanes says:


    Any report of a strange dog

    Protip: Do _not_ take the frozen corpse of the alien back to your base.

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    @Josie: I read it yesterday and found myself thinking about repeatedly afterwards.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: There was a PSA to that effect in 2018. I have no idea if it was effective or not.

    I like to think the prospect of being shot in school has made a bunch of kids aware of the problems letting the rich old white guys keep making the rules, that the Parkland kids aren’t the only ones who got a rude awakening.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: There’s no such thing as originality, just undiscovered plagiarism.

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    Good Morning/Evening my fellow jackals.

    Horrifying photos of the Bahamas.

    On a lighter note, thanks for the yogurt suggestion. I picked up some at some at the fancy grocery store at the Western-style mall.

    Watching a Thai travel show about the exotic locales and strange ways of the natives of the U.S. and UK.

    Tomorrow it’s the biweekly “beach house trip” to Dr. Suporn beach house mansion. We can’t go in the water post-op (also because of jelly fish), but they serve us lunch, and people laze around waiting for their turn for a free Thai massage. It’s a nice change of pace and chance to be social, especially for the folks who’ve mostly been holed up in their hotel room.

    Hopefully the weather will cooperate, it’s monsoon season and we had a rainy afternoon today. OTOH, the good news is the rainy days usually provide a break from the Florida-like heat and humidity.

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    Yutsano says:

    @joel hanes: Sshhh,..let the Chinese learn the hard way.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Oh it’s a message that bears repeating in as many forms as possible.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @joel hanes: Counter-protip: Do take the frozen corpse of the alien back to your base. And be a dear and thaw it out.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: For me the message is as much to all the other old fucks who think they have a right to dictate what the future they won’t be around for should look like. Not that they’ll listen.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I hate how relieved I am that, under the best case scenario for next November, we’ll still have Joe Manchin to kick us around

    Kyle Griffin @ kylegriffin1
    Inbox: West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin has decided against running for governor, will remain in the Senate.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Hey, look, it’s barbie Barbie!

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    rp says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Well…he’s right. Except, as you note, the black hole of morality is on his side. they’ve devalued and degraded our institutions and shared sense of community.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: IKR? The.worst.timeline.

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    Immanentize says:

    “Well stolen is half written.”

    And happy last day to you, RAVEN. I think you should send us a pic of your finished Dylan poster?

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    catclub says:

    @NotMax: Isn’t the far side of the moon always facing away from the earth? IN which case how does the rover transmit any info back to earth? Maybe there is a relay satellite ?

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    Yarrow says:

    @RAVEN: Congrats! On to the next chapter.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I am no wonk, and I am not rooting for a recession, and I’m mostly afraid of what long term damage The Beast will do to the economy , and Senate Rs will let him do, to keep things (the DJIA) juiced up

    Joe Weisenthal @ TheStalwart
    This isn’t good. One measure of U.S. manufacturing just slid into contraction for the first time in 3 years.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:


    Maybe there is a relay satellite ?


    At first I thought “by now surely there must be an internationally maintained array of lunar satellites” and just did a general search for “lunar communication satellite”. All I found were various proposals or planned launches that were at least a couple years away.

    Then I searched “Chinese lunar communication satellite” and that one popped up right away. Launched specifically to support the rover mission.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    What’s this about BoJo losing his majority? Need Tony Jay or Sloane Ranger or somebody to weigh in.

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    Ruckus says:

    You lucky bastard.
    You worked hard, you worked decades, you get to enjoy your best day……
    Your last day.
    BTW, just for comparison, youngster, I’m walking out the door, to go to work.

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    chris says:

    🚨 Philip Lee has just crossed the floor of the Commons to join the Liberal Democrats *while* Boris Johnson is speaking 🚨Statement on his departure from the Tories: pic.twitter.com/wfYHzLqtp2— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) 3 September 2019

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    Another Scott says:

    @Gin & Tonic: A conservative MP resigned from the party to join the LibDems.


    Since BoJo only had a 1 seat majority (via his coalition), he no longer has one.


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    catclub says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Well, this makes it more likely that the bill to require Johnson to ask for a delay will pass.
    1) Will Johnson refuse to do the bidding of the Parliament? It sure sounds like he will. That sounds like a constitutional crisis.
    It gets taken to court?? What court?? How long would that take??
    2) Will there be a snap election? In order to get an election there needs to be a 2/3rds majority vote for it. If I were in parliament I would vote against that. But I am not. No idea how that goes.

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    Another Scott says:

    @catclub: An election will be called if 1) Boris loses a confidence vote (which only requires a majority); and 2) Nobody can form a government with majority support in 14 days. If that happens, the actual timing of the election would seem to be up in the air – at least a little.

    This seems like the way the next vote will be called. The question is, can they do it in a way that prevents BoJo from crashing the UK out of the EU anyway (via delay, ignoring any bills Parliament passes, etc.)?


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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Another Scott: Thanks, but Tony Jay’s opus is downstairs now.

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    trollhattan says:

    Live the dream!

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    trollhattan says:

    @Another Scott:
    Can he fix this with a funny wig?

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    glory b says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That is the best case scenario.

    I have no idea why those critics think that WV will elect another Dem. I don’t know what magic he has, but they continue to vote for him.

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    stinger says:

    @RAVEN: Congratulations! I’m hoping to pull the plug myself in the spring. I’ll be interested to hear if you get bored. Or broke.

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    stinger says:

    @Kay: That’s because thay have a total of two policies: Cut taxes, and ban abortions.

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    stinger says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I like your books.

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    J R in WV says:


    A vegan in Western Australia who took her neighbours to the supreme court with complaints about the smell of meat and fish from their barbecues has said she is considering further potential legal action….

    This person just can’t have neighbors, that’s all.

    I’ve borrowed two big boxes of ancient family stuff, photos, letters, diaries, documents from my cousin. I’ve already finished the first box, scanning them at 600 dpi and cleaning up faded old photos.

    Just now broke open the bigger box, and found my grandpa’s first union card after he got home from the Great War in 1919. Now known as WW I… On the UMWA union card his name, which was and is Henrichs, was de-Germanified into Hendricks. Probably by the union guy who signed him up.

    It’s in great shape, looks nearly new, except for being just over 100 years old!

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