NEWS — We just won our NC state court gerrymandering lawsuit! The trial court struck down the current state House and state Senate plans and required that new plans be drawn immediately.
— Daniel Jacobson (@Dan_F_Jacobson) September 3, 2019
This is a state constitutional case and does not rely on federal law. In this way, North Carolina will be like Pennsylvania in how it de-gerrymanders.
Open Thread.
john b
this doesn’t affect federal districts. Would that necessarily require federal courts?
Cheryl Rofer
Excellent
Elizabelle
Watching for how Dorian affects voting in next Tuesday’s special election. Come on, North Carolinians! Come on, Dan McCready!
schrodingers_cat
This is good news. Rs are such cheaters.
I have a new post on the ideology behind Modi’s Kashmir decision.
TenguPhule
I’m sure the governor will get right on that. //s
hueyplong
Rural, GOP-favoring areas are on the eastern end of the district, closer to the storm. So there’s that.
C Stars
Does this mean the GOP could come up with a mechanism by which the SC re-gerrymanders it?
germy
@schrodingers_cat:
I didn’t know that.
Gabbard went on Tucker Carlson’s show recently to complain that Democrats are rigging the primary. I wonder if she’ll launch a third party run after she loses the Democratic nomination…
geg6
Oh, excellent. I can tell you that, here in PA, the PA SC saved the commonwealth with that decision. We now have a Dem governor (2 terms!), a future Dem governor in waiting in the lt. gov office, another future Dem star as AG. Now, if we can only somehow take over the legislature (at least one house, please), we may be able to hold our heads up proudly again.
geg6
@germy:
Apparently, she was asked that. And said she wouldn’t. But I don’t trust her at all.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule:
IIRC, the Governor is a Democrat.
germy
@geg6: Someone’s got deep pockets, because her campaign ads are all over the web. I even see them here.
David Anderson
@john b: could be done in state court
Martin
@john b: May not matter. If the state legislature flips blue, then they can draw new federal maps. They must do it after the 2020 census, but they can also do it at any time. I doubt the House majority will depend on NC districts, so that may be hosed for 2020, but everything else may come together.
That said, how many times has NCs maps been struck down – not to mention the rampant election fraud in NC-09? I’ll believe it when Dems are seated.
geg6
@germy:
Her cult has $$, I’m sure. All the cults do. Just look at the GOP.
JoeyJoeJoe
@TenguPhule: The Governor, Roy Cooper, is a Democrat, and he’d definitely like fairer maps that don’t give Republicans a super majority in the legislature
Mike E
@Elizabelle: Dan M has tweeted out a call for voters to get out early tomorrow to beat the storm’s arrival
germy
Cole on Autumn:
C Stars
@germy: Did you see that Jack Dorsey (twitter founder) donated the max individual amount to Gabbard’s campaign? It’s not much (2500 I think) but very interesting some of the supporters she has…
ETA it was actually 5,600 that Jack personally donated to Gabbard.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@germy: We can get some real hot weather in fall, never wear wool socks except for hiking, wuts hockey?
Fair Economist
Huzzah! NC is a great pickup opportunity with fair elections. It has one of the nastier Congressional gerrymanders too, so there are national consequences.
germy
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Here’s something you might like, via boingboing.net:
https://boingboing.net/2019/09/03/skyglow.html
C Stars
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Ditto, from a fellow Californian.
Plus, autumn doesn’t actually officially start until Sept. 23, so [Cole should] at least wait until then to start complaining.
rikyrah
Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) Tweeted:
CONVERSION THERAPY NEWS: The founder of one of the biggest conversion therapy ministries came out as gay, becoming the latest conversion therapy advocate to do so.
“Conversion therapy is not just a lie, but it’s very harmful,” he told @PostAndCourier. https://t.co/41GzGK8s2C https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1168935495512072192?s=17
germy
@C Stars: She has a little something for everyone.
But not for me.
trollhattan
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Nobody knows what that means if it’s not pronounced “haakee.”
Ice dancing in Freddy Kruger masks.
rikyrah
This is good news from N.C.???
rikyrah
@germy:
Awe, Cole…
Fall is terrific ???
TenguPhule
@germy:
She has promised not to.
trollhattan
@C Stars:
We’ll get our first meaningful rain in…[October? November? December?] so it’s hard to pin down fall’s beginning, but the calendar doesn’t provide much insight. I’ll settle for first day I can sit outdoors doing nothing and not break into a sweat.
Had we had our first meaningful storm any time during or before the first week of November last year, the Camp Fire would have not occurred.
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I seem to have confused NC with SC.
TenguPhule
@germy:
This must be some version of fall I’m not familiar with.
Jay
@schrodingers_cat:
Replied to you downthread with a link that has all the receipts on Tulsi,
https://caravanmagazine.in/politics/american-sangh-affair-tulsi-gabbard
?BillinGlendaleCA
@germy: I like the time lapse of the Milky Way transitioning to cumulative star trails. Here’s a time lapse I shot Saturday night(it was shot with a fisheye by PCH so it’s got headlights on each side).
ETA: I shot alot of stuff this weekend, and then got sick.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Only season I like better than fall is winter
BlueNC
@TenguPhule: Them’s fightin’ words!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule: DO NOT do that in either NC or SC.
ETA: I see BlueNC got there before I did.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Cole has what a writer would call “voice.” In his case, that’s a synonym for attitude.
PlaneCrazy
I wear wool socks all year ’round and I live in North Carolina where summer (at least by Northern standards) lasts from March to November. They breath and wick sweat much better than cotton. (Darn Tough socks are the best, made in USA and really live up to their name). Thin low ones for tennis shoes, thicker ones for dress shoes. Wool rocks, baby!
Martin
Shocking exactly nobody in the ‘doesn’t hate gays’ community.
Ex-Gay Conversion Leader Blasts ‘Very Harmful’ Practice After Coming Out As Gay
?BillinGlendaleCA
@PlaneCrazy:
That’s why they’re worn for hiking, also if you have to cross a stream and they get wet that way.
PlaneCrazy
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Just wanted to say, as a very long timer lurker of BJ, I love your photos. Keep ’em coming!
Barbara
@john b:
Nope. State legislatures draw districts for federal House seats. The Pennsylvania decision resetting the state’s federal house lines was based on an interpretation of the state’s constitution. There were some Republican state legislators in Pennsylvania who repeatedly tried to make it a federal issue and sought to enjoin the court’s action by going to federal court, but they lost.
NotMax
After reapportionment following the census, the entire exercise will need to be repeated. Count on it.
/wet blanket
?BillinGlendaleCA
@PlaneCrazy: I’m glad you enjoy them, my output in the future will probably be less than in the past though.
Yarrow
@germy: There’s also some conservative Hindu group that’s for Trump.
germy
@Yarrow: Don’t they know there’s a good chance they’d be beaten by his supporters in the parking lot of one of his campaign events?
cliosfanboy
@C Stars: wait until complaining? You’re new here, aren’t you???? :)
schrodingers_cat
@Yarrow: Related to the group that’s donating to Tulsi, I have no doubt. Did you check out their map of “undivided India”? Delusion is strong with them
germy
Roger Moore
@NotMax:
But it will be harder if A) the new map is actually used in 2020 and B) that lets the Democrats take control of at least one house of the state legislature. That’s the key problem with depending on gerrymandering to retain power: once lost it may be very difficult to regain.
debbie
@germy:
Someone needed to block that guy’s phone camera from the very start. That’s all this is about.
Jay
@germy:
That’s Sikhs.
Hindus tend not to wear religious/cultural symbols in public.
And they don’t go to his mini “Trump of the Will” hatefests, they just send money, votes and pro-Indian Hindu Nationalism legislation and proposals.
germy
@debbie: It’s this guy (a Canadian loon):
Doug R
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dWw0qIpdE
schrodingers_cat
@Jay: I have included that link in my blog post. He does exaggerate Tulsi’s influence in American politics and the article is a tad long.
schrodingers_cat
@Jay: 80% South Asians voted for HRC. Hindus for T is a small minority of the South Asian population. Even Modi’s party in India just got over 40% of the vote.
Jay
@germy:
The racist in the video is a repeat Nazi offender from Vancouver who has run failed campaigns for office, has Election convictions, and went all that way to get humiliated.
In other news from the Great White North:
kindness
It’s easy for me being from the glorious People’s Republic of California to say Bless Their Hearts to far too many states/areas across this country of ours.
It’s a Republic, if you can keep it. h/t BF
Tim C.
@TenguPhule: NC is the one trending Purple with definite positive points despite R gerrymandering giving them a super-majority in the legislature.
SC is too small for a Republic, to large for an insane asylum. (James L. Petigru, 1860)
NotMax
Reading above about socks reminded me to give effusive thanks to whoever it was (and apologies for not remembering the nym) who recommended trying diabetic socks. Bought a pair when in NY (I never wear socks in Hawaii, sandals are the below the calf uniform du jour) and while they did not entirely relieve the discomfort and swelling of ankles and feet that comes with regular socks of any type, there was a significant and noticeable improvement.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@TenguPhule:
The governor is a Democrat, dude
Mike E
@Tim C.: we voted away the supermajority last year, giving this Gov. his veto power back…give us a little credit here!
germy
@Jay:
this guy:
https://twitter.com/sjgarvey
Jay
@schrodingers_cat:
I don’t think he exaggerated her influence, I think he was very clear on how she was trying to use her influence, often unsuccesfully,
And how she was trying to do so on the down low.
The article also makes it very clear how dollars from outside a District, for good or bad, impact elections.
As well as the incestuous nature of a politician piggybacking on what is a Foreign Political Party/Cult.
And I like long when it brings the receipts. More so these days given the crap status of Journalism.
Why can David Neiwart manage to write 2500 words on the plight of the Southern Killer Whales, laying it out in full, but CBC can only manage 500 word clickbait stories about the latest death?
Jay
Stuck in moderation for saying a bad word,
Yarrow
@germy: None of these idiots seem to think the harm will eventually come to them.
@schrodingers_cat: I haven’t had the chance to look at the map yet. I can only imagine.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Is it really that high? That’s better than Latinos, I think.
Conservative Indians do seem to punch above their weight in terms of media coverage.
Jay
@Baud:
It’s because of your biased Libral Media,……..\\
Chyron HR
@germy:
I don’t see that it matters, she can’t actually swing any votes in the general election other than 4chan trolls, and last time Bernie did most of his damage during what was ostensibly still the primary.
Jay
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: See the table on page 9 (84% Indian Americans voted for HRC)
RWNJ Indians are either rich or Sanghis (dedicated true believers of the Sangh) or both.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
I would have taken your word for it. :-)
That’s awesome.
TS (the original)
@Baud:
The right to rule mentality – all over the world.
Ruckus
@C Stars:
Are you new here?
John always complains about whatever he wants whenever he wants. It is after all, his blog.
trollhattan
@Jay:
Not exactly who I would have expected to hear this news from. “These boots are made for sloshin’.”
C Stars
@trollhattan: Ugh, hoping we do not have a repeat of last year’s fire season.
Jay
C Stars
@cliosfanboy: @Ruckus: Yeah, yeah, as an occasional beneficiary of the complain early and often option here at BJ, I shoulda known better…
Jay
That would be NAFTA 2.0, which apparently isn’t even a writted Trade Deal yet, let alone, signed and ratified.
Basically all Orangemandious’s Jarvanka managed to achieve so far are letters of intent with Canada and Mexico.
Jay
@Jay:
Written, not writted,…..
Jay
Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]
@Jay: What? You mean Trump and company Talked a big game, did no actual work, overpromised, and now things are falling apart? This has NEVER happened to him before! I’m shocked! Shocked I say! Bring me my fainting couch and pearls Juana! Immediately I say! I fear a bout of the vapors is coming on!!!!!
(Ripped from the mind of David Brooks)