Not The President’s Right

Referring to President Trump’s “rights,” as in “He has a right to declassify information,” repeats his childish and ignorant thinking and expression.

The presidency is a privilege conferred on a person by the citizens. It carries no additional rights beyond the rights of all citizens.

The President swears an oath of office.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

By doing that, he takes on obligations to the people and Constitution of the United States. No additional rights.

All a President’s actions should be guided by those obligations.

In the latest case in which the “rights” terminology has shown up, there are certain regulations that apply. The classification regulations give the President certain authorities, not rights. Under the oath of office, these authorities are to be exercised responsibly. And the authorities are exercised under the rule of law more generally.

In particular, the President is the ultimate classification authority. The regulations specify procedures through which that authority is to be exercised. Documents are to be signed, and classification markings are to be properly canceled.

It’s hard to believe that Trump followed any of those procedures in releasing yesterday’s photo. He is very possibly violating his oath of office in releasing national security information impulsively through a tweet. He has no “right” to do that.

 

Cross-posted at Nuclear Diner






128 replies
  1. 1

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    Dr. Daniel Price says:

    Only Republican Presidents have the Constitutoooooooooooinal right to declassify information, to appoint Federal judges, to divert money allocated by the Congress, and to change immigration law. Anyone who suggests otherwise has clearly not studied the Constitooooooootion.

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    patrick II says:

    In fairness to Trump — which I am reluctant to do — the first time I heard the president can declassify it was during Cheney’s Valerie Plame treason. Outing a spy against an enemy for political reasons. Republicans only pay attention to those bothersome laws when a democrat is in office or has a personal email server.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    Having been in a SCIF or two in my life, I’m still reeling at the blatant… I don’t even have words for it… of sailing into a SCIF, pulling out your phone and taking a Goddamn photo.

    If no heads roll on that one, good luck explaining the security procedures to your next visitor.

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    Yarrow says:

    “When the President does it, that means it’s not in violation of the oath of office”

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    pete says:

    One more article of impeachment.

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    MobiusKlein says:

    At work, I have rights on quite a number of computer systems. If I start using those rights in arbitrary or capricious ways, I quickly lose those rights.
    25th Amendment followed by impeachment, please.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    In their rush to defend Trump, blathering on about his “right” to declassify information, they of course ignore that rights come with responsibilities. Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. And really the “rights” a president enjoys because of the job, like any other job, are conditional privileges only, and are not supposed to be absolute

    Their reflexive and slavish need to defend ,not just Trump, but any GOP pol no matter how outrageous the offense is disgusting. It speaks to a lack of principles and character. Not to mention brazen hypocrisy. But that comes as no surprise given the subjects

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    sukabi says:

    Until the congress and courts challenge AND STOP him from grabbing and exercising nonexistent rights he will continue to grab and claim the absolute right to do what he pleases.

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    MattF says:

    I agree that the ‘right’ vs. ‘authority’ distinction is crucial here– and Trump, as usual, is on the wrong side of it. I have to admit, however, I’m not so sad about a security bureaucracy getting rudely overruled and shown out of the room. There’s a huge amount of misapplied power in those organizations.

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    debbie says:

    It comes down to this: it wasn’t more than a few weeks ago at a rally in Ohio that Trump said Article II said he could do anything he wanted to. Eric Cartman having a bit pout.

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    JoyceH says:

    I’d like to see damage to national security as an article of impeachment. Could include this and also blurting out Israeli intel to the freakin’ Russians.

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    Brachiator says:

    The President swears an oath of office…By doing that, he takes on obligations to the people and Constitution of the United States. No additional rights.

    Trump’s vision of his rights as president is free of any understanding of the Constitution, or of any desire to understand law or politics. He sees himself as in place to assert his will. He is actually somewhat cunning in the way that he (and of course, his staff) seek to expand his use of executive authority. He is helped in this by the backing he receives from the GOP leadership, and even when he is slapped back by the courts, he keeps trying to find another way to assert his will.

    It’s unclear whether he sees himself as president of all of the United States. He has recently referred to his supporters and “his fans” as those he most cares about. At other times, he seems to see himself as the embodiment of the United States itself.

    This is not politically healthy. Trump is pushing a soft autocracy, one not based on a military coup, imprisonment of adversaries or explicit control of media, but the traditional deference to our leaders because no one wants to believe that the president of the United States might personally be a crook and an incompetent, or that he might love himself far more than he loves his country.

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    MagdaInBlack says:

    Many (many) years ago during the Reagan admin, something outrageous was happening and my naive response was “But that’s illegal!” My much more cynical husband gave me a pitying look and said “If no one stops them, does the law even matter?”
    I think about that little exchange almost every day now.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Yarrow: Points off if you didn’t say that in a Tricky Dick voice and shake your face like Futurama Nixon.

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    Ruckus says:

    Number One-the president is not above the law. The president does not make the law. The president is not the arbitration authority of the law. The president does not own any property that is actually owned by the United States, it is not his to do with as he pleases.The president is simply the person who runs the executive branch of the government. That does mean that the president does have some powers that the rest of us do not. The president does have additional obligations because of that.

    This president does nothing a normal president does, because he’s not fucking normal in any way. He is the epitome of everything wrong with humans.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    How do we get you in front of a TV camera on all networks and cable outlets?

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Ruckus: Great to see you! Hope you are well.

    This is just Exhibit ___ of why Trump is utterly unqualified for the presidency.

    Which I doubt he won fairly. He is an illegitimate and criminally inadequate POTUS.

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    Another Scott says:

    Exactly right, Cheryl. Being President loads you up with a mountain of responsibilities; it doesn’t let you play God-Emperor.

    In other news, RollCall:

    Democrat Dan McCready has a narrow advantage over Republican Dan Bishop heading into the final days of the Sept. 10 redo election in North Carolina’s 9th District, according to a new bipartisan poll for Inside Elections.

    The survey, conducted from Monday through Wednesday by Harper Polling and Clarity Campaign Labs, showed McCready ahead of Bishop, 46 percent to 42 percent, with two third-party candidates receiving a combined 3 percent. Some 8 percent of voters were “unsure” and the survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.19 percentage points.

    When voters who were leaning toward one candidate were included, McCready’s advantage extended to 49-44 percent.

    In November 2018, McCready finished less than a point behind Republican Mark Harris, but a winner was never certified or seated in Congress because of allegations of fraud by a GOP consultant affiliated with the Harris campaign. (Harris opted against running in the redo election.)

    […]

    Excellent. Run up the score, everywhere!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    I just wrote to Rep. Rosa DeLauro, “NOW can we impeach him?” and included a link to the NPR story on this.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Brachiator:

    Trump is pushing a soft autocracy, one not based on a military coup, imprisonment of adversaries or explicit control of media,

    Agreed. However, I think Trump would try to imprison and brutalize his opponents or directly control all media if he could get away with it

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    AliceBlue says:

    @Another Scott: I’ve sent a little money his way; I really hope he wins. If he doesn’t, we’ll have to hear the Usual Suspects blather on about what a bad omen it is for Democrats going into 2020 (even though Trump carried the district by double digits).

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    Heywood J. says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: He’ll come around to it eventually. Who’s going to stop him?

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Another Scott: Fingers crossed that Dorian does not impinge on the North Carolina special election, scheduled for September 10 (two Tuesdays ahead).

    Wilmington NC coastline is just 30-40 miles away from the southeast reaches of the district. Please, no disruptions or enormous distractions.

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    ET says:

    The thing that all those “he has the right” apologists don’t seem to get is just because he has the right to do something doesn’t mean he should.

    He reveals these thing not because he thinks there is too much stuff that is classified, not because he thinks something is important for the people to know despite what the bureaucracy says and after a lot of thought, but because he wants to score some points and on a whim.

    He is all too casual and cavalier with things he shouldn’t be and he doesn’t give a flip if that compromises someone, some relationship, or some ability.

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    James E Powell says:

    @Elizabelle:

    This is just Exhibit ___ of why Trump is utterly unqualified for the presidency.

    It is also Exhibit ___ showing that the American ruling class and the majority of white people do not believe in democracy, the rule of law, fairness, equal protection of the laws, or basic human decency.

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    wasabi gasp says:

    Of all Trump’s crimes and malevolence, this incident doesn’t even register.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Elizabelle: OK, North Carolina’s ninth is more like fifty miles, at least, from the coast (and that’s just its extreme eastern edge). But these big storms have a big path. And it’s hard to get folks to turn out for special elections, although this one has been a bit topic locally for months now.

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    Betraying intelligence secrets to our adversaries is legal if the president does it, yes. It’s still betraying intelligence secrets to our adversaries.

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    I think Trump would try to imprison and brutalize his opponents

    He already has. One of the first things he did when he became president was tell the DoJ to arrest Obama and Hillary. Alas, the department’s prosecutors were unwilling to take the legal jeopardy on themselves of pretending to a judge they had a case or even a crime to prosecute. The conversation explaining that to Lord Combover must have been entertaining.

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    Elizabelle says:

    An alternate title for this post would be “The President’s Not Right” and that would be accurate too.

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    Jay says:

    The cops behaved abominably, even for cops.They attacked medics for no reason and arrested nonviolent counterprotesters in an effort to intimidate activists.— AntiFash Gordon (@AntiFashGordon) August 31, 2019

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    Baud says:

    @Elizabelle:

    I was just about to post that. Get out of my brain.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    Trump’s trade wars could cost him support among rural voters in the battleground states he barely won in 2016

    Jerry Volenec was very drawn to the idea of a businessman that championed American farmers in the White House. So the fifth-generation dairy farmer in Montfort, Wisconsin cast a vote for President Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

    In recent years, Volenec struggled with plummeting milk prices brought on by overproduction and failing export markets – and he hoped Trump’s policies would help reverse the dire trend.

    But Volenec’s economic fortunes only worsened after Trump imposed sweeping tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum in March 2018, which set off retaliatory levies on American dairy products from China, Europe, Canada, and Mexico.

    […]

    “It didn’t take me long to find out that my business and his business are completely different,” Volenec told Insider, referring to Trump. “Even when he talks about farmers, I’m confident that his image of a farmer isn’t me. His idea of a farmer is an investor that owns hundreds of thousands of acres and never gets his hands dirty.”

    He feels that Trump fooled him – and Volenec says he’s no longer voting for him in next year’s presidential election, saying, “I don’t think there’s anything he could do at this point that could sway me to support him.”

    […]

    Matt McAlvanah, the spokesperson for Farmers for Free Trade, an advocacy group, told Insider, “We’re hearing firsthand from farmers across the country not only are they struggling, but they are frustrated that the Trump administration is portraying them as doing fine.”

    He added: “They appreciate the president has called them patriots, but being a patriot does very little for them when they’re showing up to talk to their lender and declaring bankruptcy or delinquent on their loans.”

    Bottom line, a lot of these people who helped him over the edge to give him the states that he won in 2016, such as Wisconsin, are hurting. Trump’s underwater in many midwestern and battleground states. He’s definitely vulnerable. I find it interesting that we’re finally hearing real accounts of bellyaching among farmers finally, and some are directly blaming Trump. Even further, vowing to not vote for him in 2020.

    Anecdotal evidence and all, but this doesn’t portend well for Trump, coupled with polling showing he’s now underwater in several states he needed to win the EC

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    James E Powell says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    Trump’s numbers will swing back to positive with rural voters once he is running against a person they hate.

    I really hope the Democratic candidate does not waste time or money trying to win over the bigots and morons.

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    @Elizabelle: I wondered about the election too. It’s not until the 10th, I think, but if the storm is bad, that can make all sorts of problems.

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    Baud says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    Jerry Volenec was very drawn to the idea of a businessman that championed American farmers in the White House.

    No, he wasn’t.

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    Baud says:

    @James E Powell:

    He’s still positive with rural voters. He’s just polling low enough that some of his states are in play. You are right that most will stick with him, but he doesn’t have that much margin to lose.

  38. 38
    Baud says:

    Finally, someone who appreciates the reason for the season.

    Labor Day might be the best time to buy a mattress: Here are all the sales going on right now

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    Brachiator says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    Trump is pushing a soft autocracy, one not based on a military coup, imprisonment of adversaries or explicit control of media,

    Agreed. However, I think Trump would try to imprison and brutalize his opponents or directly control all media if he could get away with it

    I don’t know. Trump is a coward when it comes to some forms of direct confrontation. Also, he would have to whip his base into a frenzy so that they would support a more overt autocracy.

    And one thing that is starting to work against him is that the business sector is unwilling to take a hit as he continues to push tariffs as his only bargaining ploy.

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    Jay says:

    i spent yesterday afternoon walking the parade route and every few feet exclaiming that i couldn’t fucking believe a city would grant a permit for what is so obviously going to be a massive clusterfuck on account of a small number of fascist chucklefucks. https://t.co/unZgpWG1Z2— molly 🐶 (@socialistdogmom) August 31, 2019

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Baud:

    Lower in the article, he claims he voted for Obama in 2012 and likes Bernie Sanders. He’s not exactly typical among farmers I assume, but it’s equally possible he’s simply lying. I suspect he means it when he says he’s fed up with Trump

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    Duane says:

    @zhena gogolia: Get him out of office before he does something so bad our country can never recover. How much evidence is needed for our institutions to act, with urgency, to stop him? Waiting for an unthinkable disaster simply cannot be an option.

  43. 43
    Jay says:

    straight pride parade: “the straight pride parade is not a homophobic event!”also the straight pride parade: “I AM ANTI-GAY!” and screaming F*GGOT at queer people while wearing a “socialism is for f*gs” shirt pic.twitter.com/peevwJlabw— molly 🐶 (@socialistdogmom) August 31, 2019

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    Another Scott says:

    4th Democratic Debate to be in Ohio on October 15. Location TBD.

    Candidates will have to garner 130,000 unique donors and hit 2 percent in four DNC-approved polls to qualify for the debates. Those are the same thresholds for the debate slated for next month.

    The 10 Democrats who have already hit the two thresholds for the September debate stage automatically qualify for the October event.

    Candidates who fell short for the September event could still qualify for the October debate, with the deadline to hit the donor and polling marks falling two weeks before Oct. 15.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Baud says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    People think voting for Obama automatically shields someone from being a racist. It doesn’t.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Baud:
    Yup. And the, “I have black friends”. It’s very probable that’s the case here

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    Brachiator says:

    @Duane:

    How much evidence is needed for our institutions to act, with urgency, to stop him? Waiting for an unthinkable disaster simply cannot be an option.

    The GOP leadership is willing to roll the dice and hope that Trump will not make a horrible blunder before the next election. The odds are not in their favor, but they are going for broke.

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    ET says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: the thing that I am not sure the president’s fan club don’t get is that he isn’t a businessman but a real estate developer, hospitality guy, and a relentless self promoter. The skill set for what he is and what he says he is aren’t necessarily the same thing.

  49. 49
    Baud says:

    @Another Scott:

    I was hoping they’d raise the threshold. Some people barely didn’t make it this time that also shouldn’t be part of the October debate.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Jay:

    straight pride parade: “the straight pride parade is not a homophobic event!”

    Well, to be fair, I bet that a number of marchers are in the closet.

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    NotMax says:

    @Jay

    “We demand heterogenized milk!” //

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    Elizabelle says:

    Since we are speaking of farmers, being the salt of the earth etc. etc., Paul Krugman took that on in his latest column. FTF NYTimes (but it publishes K-Thug).

    The Frauding of America’s Farmers
    Trump’s biggest supporters are his biggest victim

    What I really loved was this reader comment, from “Phil in Las Vegas”:

    Raise your hand if your entire livelihood depends on a stable climate. One in which rains come in the Spring, but not too heavily, snow cover dwindles at the appropriate time, soils don’t freeze after you’ve already planted them, air doesn’t drop below freezing after blossoming, the summer air cools off at night just enough for your plants to recover from the days heat, and shots of gentle rain will replenish your reservoirs and aquifers at just the right time.

    Of those of you who raised your hand, raise the other one if you think Trumps weakening of greenhouse gas emission laws is a good idea.

    Those of you with both hands raised, I’ve got just four words for you: This Is A Stickup.

    Farmers and climate change. The noticeable unpredictability of weather and growing conditions. Somebody needs to clue in our rural finest.

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    Jay says:

    Seems like a good time to talk about the explicitly pro-Nazi, white supremacist history of the Dior brand and family.Christian Dior got his start designing dresses for the wives of Nazis and French collaborators. https://t.co/vXGkTx8dWc pic.twitter.com/bAUrkZ7QdS— Gwen Snyder is uncivil (@gwensnyderPHL) August 31, 2019

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Brachiator:

    And one thing that is starting to work against him is that the business sector is unwilling to take a hit as he continues to push tariffs as his only bargaining ploy.

    Is this the case? If it is I hope so. A few months ago he was able to raise 24 million in 24 hrs for his reelection campaign. Obviously some in the business community still like the guy. I remember getting frustrated when Dorsey (yes, I know he’s RW himself) of Twitter met with Trump some months back, probably to complain about his bot followers getting deleted. I kept asking myself, why give this buffoon the time of day? Where’s he gonna go, fucking Gab? And moreover, why give him the legitimacy that comes with a meeting, especially at his beck and call?

    Same with that big business summit from I think last year. All of those CEOs sucking up to Trump was nauseating.

  55. 55
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Elizabelle: it ain’t about the facts, it’s about sticking to dark people and libtards.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Another Scott: I think Ohio Dems believe they have a shot to make Ohio blue in 2020, despite the conventional wisdom that Ohio is and will be solid red for all eternity. I thought it was a good sign that Nancy Pelosi was the keynote speaker at the Ohio Dem fundraiser earlier this year and now a debate will be held in Ohio. Dems in DC must be agreeing with David Pepper and company.

    I know Ohio Dems have put voting rights at the top of its agenda. Earlier this year we called people who had been possibly purged from voter roles to ask them to double check their voter registration.

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    Baud says:

    @Kathleen:

    That would be a nice turnaround.

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    Brachiator says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    And one thing that is starting to work against him is that the business sector is unwilling to take a hit as he continues to push tariffs as his only bargaining ploy.

    Is this the case? If it is I hope so. A few months ago he was able to raise 24 million in 24 hrs for his reelection campaign.

    “Ordering” companies to leave China or branding businesses as losers if they don’t support his tariffs strains the previous cozy relationship Trump had with the business sector. But you are right, they are still willing to donate big time to the GOP. For now.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Baud: Indeed it would! Buckeyes for Baud 2020!

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    Fleeting Expletive says:

    I’ve yet to hear ” LAME DUCK ! ” thrown around nearly enough.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @Jay:

    while wearing a “socialism is for f*gs” shirt

    Speaking for the LGBTQ community, he’s not wrong.

  62. 62
    Baud says:

    @Kathleen:

    THE Baud! 2020! Campaign.

  63. 63
    Baud says:

    @Jay:

    Please tell me the counter protests involved thousands of same-sex couples making out.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Kathleen:
    I hope Ohio, my state as well, turns around too. Traditionally Dem area and two Repukes managed to get elected to the legislature last year, one an empty suit and the other a Trumpster. Both voted for the Heartbeat bill. The empty suit is a catholic I believe, but still, these seats were held by Dems for several years. They act as if they’re in safe R seats

  65. 65
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Baud: ha!

    @Kathleen: would love to see your state begin to redeem itself, but I will continue to despise the football program at an Ohio State University regardless. And Justin Fields ain’t all that.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Baud:
    Tell us Baud, are you going to qualify for the October Dem debates or are you going run a symbolic campaign and primary Trump?

    @Brachiator:

    Here’s hoping enough at least stop donating to him

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    Jay says:

    1) YV maniacs pretend to organize concert in support of VETS Canada because of their deep respect for veterans.2) VC says "no thanks" to a donation from a hate group.3) Did I say "deep respect"? Sorry, meant "ceaseless harassment"._Disgusting_. https://t.co/FtER5tPXT3— 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓶𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮 (@NLArcade) August 31, 2019

  68. 68
    Baud says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    Still too many people in the debates. I’m going to wait until there’s only one candidate left and then campaign against that person.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Elizabelle: Calif was years into our last extended drought and Valley farmers were still keeping busy converting row crop fields into almond orchards, while bitching about the “Democrat-caused drought” Barbara Boxer stealing “their” water, etc. etc.

    Always wanted to see a copy of the business plan for that.

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    James E Powell says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    [Trump’s] idea of a farmer is an investor that owns hundreds of thousands of acres and never gets his hands dirty.

    No, Mr Volenec, Trump’s idea of a farmer is a bigot who will vote for him no matter what his policies are because he and the farmer hate the same people.

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    Martin says:

    Can’t be reminded often enough:

    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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    Kathleen says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: Are they from gerrymandered districts? My former legislative districts were solid Dem (House and Senate) and I enjoyed excellent representation. The year my state senator termed out I went to vote in the Democratic primary election and lo and behold there was no Democrat on the ballot for state senator, though I knew Cecil Thomas was running in the primary. I found out that my district had been gerrymandered and I now have a Rethug as my state senator (no Dem filed to oppose him), and for the House rep my zip code was split in two based on last 4 digits. I am now cursed with Rethug rep ironically named “Blessing” while the other half of my zip code is represented by female African American Democrat.

    Fortunately the Hamilton County Democrats have done outstanding job in getting candidates elected locally in county and judiciary positions. Also, Hamilton County Dems solidly supported the state ticket in 2018.

    Our new chair is an African American woman who has held conferences with stakeholders to get their input and engagement. She’s very focused and enthusiastic. To Kay’s point a few days ago about the importance of Unions in her community, unions in Cincinnati area are also active in the party.

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    Martin says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: I hate to say it, but Texas looks more likely than Ohio to get there.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Steve in the ATL: I agree with you about Ohio State! My SIL, who’s from Northern Kentucky, hates OSU so much he’s a rabid University of Michigan fan.
    One of my brothers lived in Columbus several years ago and he also hates OSU with a passion. When my other brother visited him during football season they went into convenience store on game day which was packed with OSU fans. My Columbus brother started talking smack about Ohio State and my other brother panicked and started fearing for his life. They managed to escape unscathed.

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    Jay says:

    Arrests happening now. Police not popular. pic.twitter.com/ZY6F7r3sP6— Calgie (@christiancalgie) August 31, 2019

    London’s calling.

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    Don says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: ahe’ll still vote for him because he’s not for “them.” “them are those swarthy folks who live in Milwaukee and Madison.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Jay: London police have been Profa for decades now

    ETA: probably centuries if not millenia. I wasn’t following the issue closely before I was born.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Kathleen:

    My state Senate and House districts are the 33rd and the 59th. No idea if they’re gerrymandered, but Dems did run for them but lost. Joe Schiavoni, the previous Senate seat occupant, had been in the position since 2009, but was termed out. John Boccieri ran for it but lost. My county Dem party has ran the county for decades but is incredibly corrupt. They routinely campaign against an anti-fracking city measure that’s put on the ballot every year and scaremonger about it. Now, it may be a good law or it may not, but they never say a bad word about fracking itself, which is suspect imo.

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    J R in WV says:

    Cheryl, you and Adam bring reality to the blog, and help untangle the science and security issues that matter today.

    Thank you for all you do! And Adam, also, too!

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    chris says:

    @Jay:

    Any semblance that the Boston Straight Parade isn’t homophobic is gone. The second speaker is outright saying. “It’s not okay to be gay and if someone told you otherwise they lied to you.” pic.twitter.com/R6FwhLkU8V— Sam Bishop (@sebishop99) August 31, 2019

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Steve in the ATL: I was in London in the autumn of 1984. The peak of the miners’ strike. The police were not a progressive presence to say the least.

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    Kathleen says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: Sorry to hear that about your local Dem organization. Any bright spots?
    Also, two bills which changed how districts are drawn for state and national offices both passed and I wonder when the new process takes place and how soon we’ll see districts change. I need to research that. Gerrymandering has killed us in the legislature and House of Representatives in SW Ohio.

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    germy says:

    When Trump visited the African American History Museum:

    Trump stopped at an "exhibit that discussed the role of the Dutch in the slave trade… I felt that maybe he was paying attention to the work of the museum… As he turned from the display he said to me, ‘You know, they love me in the Netherlands.’" https://t.co/06Hn9KKO3N— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) August 31, 2019

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    J R in WV says:

    @Jay:

    Seems like a good time to talk about the explicitly pro-Nazi, white supremacist history of the Dior brand and family.Christian Dior got his start designing dresses for the wives of Nazis and French collaborators. https://t.co/vXGkTx8dWc pic.twitter.com/bAUrkZ7QdS— Gwen Snyder is uncivil

    The other famous Nazi fashion designer, and more obviously pro-Nazi, was, of course Hugo Boss! From Wikipedia:

    Hugo Boss AG, often styled as BOSS, is a German luxury fashion house headquartered in Metzingen. It was founded in 1924 by Hugo Boss and originally produced general purpose clothing. With the rise of the Nazi Party in the 1930s, Boss began to produce and sell Nazi uniforms. Boss would eventually supply the wartime German government with uniforms for organizations such as the Hitler Youth and Waffen-SS, resulting in a large boost in sales.

    Of course, just as is Dior, Boss AG is still a hot designer group today, though the original Hugo Boss died in 1948.

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    James E Powell says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Dream on, hater! I moved to California, but it’s Hang on Sloopy til I die!

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    trollhattan says:

    @germy:
    He truly is…special. Wish he were also unique.

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    trollhattan says:

    @James E Powell:
    The McCoys w/ Rick Derringer?

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    James E Powell says:

    @trollhattan:

    Calif was years into our last extended drought and Valley farmers were still keeping busy converting row crop fields into almond orchards, while bitching about the “Democrat-caused drought” Barbara Boxer stealing “their” water, etc. etc.

    I remember driving up the 99 and seeing billboard after billboard claiming there was no drought, that it was all Pelosi, Clinton, Boxer, Democrats, Liberals, etc. And others along the lines of No water = No food! It was like being in another country.

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    Raven says:

    @trollhattan: Johnny Winter And. . .

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    James E Powell says:

    @trollhattan:

    Originally by The McCoys but now more famously by The Best Damn Band in the Land!

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    J R in WV says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    … they never say a bad word about fracking itself, which is suspect imo.

    Fracking is one of the biggest environmental catastrophes going around. It could probably be done more safely than current standard practices, but currently it destroys potable aquifers and allows gas and oil to travel in undefined patterns. The waste generated is radioactive and poisonous, and has been dumped without regulation.

    Plus it contributes to climate change in a very big way. We are fortunate to be on the edge of the local geological formation suitable for fracking, so far as I know only one fracked well has been attempted in the neighborhood, across the mountain from us. That’s still way too close for comfort, but better than right here in this hollow.

    Republicans love it so hard!

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    Jay says:

    “When powerful people demand civility from those with less power, what they are really saying is that they expect obedience from their lessers.” I’d missed @davekarpf’s Wednesday column in @latimes. He wrote circles around Bret Stephens twice in a week. https://t.co/izFA5Cq3C4— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) August 31, 2019

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    NotMax says:

    @James E Powell

    Originally by The McCoys

    Presumably Walter Brennan stayed silent and lip synced.

    :)

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    Kathleen says:

    @NotMax: “And now there’s Luke who beams with joy since he made Kate Mrs. Luke McCoy”

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    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    The one requirement I’d like to see added is membership in the damn party.

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    trollhattan says:

    @James E Powell:
    Needs Woody Hayes running out and tackling a souzaphonist.

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    Sab says:

    @Another Scott: God I wish Tim Ryan would go back to doing his day job.

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    debbie says:

    @Kathleen:

    I know Ohio Dems have put voting rights at the top of its agenda.

    Right, but LaRose is proving to be slimier than Husted ever was.

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    debbie says:

    @Kathleen:

    Columbus has had a Blue rep (Joyce Beatty) for a number of years. She’a always won handily, but this year there’s a real nutjob running against her (can’t think of the name), and the nutjob’s trolls are all over her FB posts. I think she’ll be safe, but it will be ugly.

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    Kathleen says:

    @debbie: Sigh. There’s no “hit bottom” with their evil. They always manage to create a lower ring of hell.

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    debbie says:

    @germy:

    That popped up on my Instagram feed, along with quite a lot posts insisting that oh no they did not.

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    Sab says:

    @debbie: Isn’t she in the Justice Dems crosshairs?

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    Kathleen says:

    @debbie: I remember her from watching clips from the Legacy dinner. She received an award.
    https://www.dispatch.com/news/20190517/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-my-heart-breaks-for-this-heartbeat-bill

    Is your county Dem organization solid? I’ve heard Columbus is pretty blue.

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    trollhattan says:

    @James E Powell:
    Devin Nunes Country. There’s no explaining it.

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    Kathleen says:

    @germy: Well at least he didn’t say “They love me on slave ships”. Baby steps.

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    NotMax says:

    @debbie

    I think she’ll be safe, but it will be ugly.

    Just say it ain’t so that we must needs update the saying to “Politics ain’t cornhole.”

    ;)

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    rikyrah says:

    When during a robbery, the most dangerous person IS NOT the person who has a gun😲😲

    Never seen someone with negative phucks to give

    https://twitter.com/soulpowercoach/status/1167799815591387136

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @trollhattan: Haha

    Go Middle Tennessee State! Oh, wait…

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    SenyorDave says:

    “They appreciate the president has called them patriots, but being a patriot does very little for them when they’re showing up to talk to their lender and declaring bankruptcy or delinquent on their loans.”

    Exactly why is a farmer any more of a patriot than a teacher? Or a car salesperson? Or a server at a restaurant?

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    chris says:

    The organizers of the Straight Pride Parade had a press conference. One of the questions asked:“What do you say to taxpayers who want to know why you’re wasting this city’s resources because you three guys can’t get laid?” 📹: @Brian_Ricciopic.twitter.com/j5MUaNAQ1u— Only In Boston (@OnlyInBOS) August 30, 2019

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SenyorDave: management-side labor lawyers are the most patriotic of all, especially this weekend.

    @mrmoshpotato: good luck with that!

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @chris: Damn, that was today? How’d I miss it?

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    @SenyorDave: “Patriot” = “loyal” = “supporting Feckless Leader”

    Has nothing to do with your feelings or behavior toward the US. But I think you knew that and your question was rhetorical.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Hehe I look forward to the Wolverines destroying MTSU.

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    Jay says:

    And as ususal, it’s turned into a Police Riot,

    hey, thank you to the masked stranger who helped me up when a cop was hitting me while i was pepper sprayed and lying on the ground earlier. antifascists are heroes & we keep us safe 🖤— molly 🐶 (@socialistdogmom) August 31, 2019

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    Topclimber says:

    @James E Powell: You may be right that small farmer outreach is not an investment with a big payoff but of all Trump’s base I consider them the most reachable.
    Farmers are often scientific in their domain and know that all the bs in the world doesn’t change the facts on the ground. Unlike much of the jackleteriat, they are too damn busy to obsess on the politics du jour and so might fall for the meme about the businessman who will fight the takers.
    I guess I think they are in the camp of the people you can fool some of the time than that of some of the people who sit on their asses (chores are hard man!), revel in Fox stew and happily are fools all the time.

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    Another Scott says:

    @SenyorDave: All Donnie knows about economics is what he learned from reading fawning biographies of Stalin and Mao and CPSU Five Year Plans.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Baud says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Damn, that was today? How’d I miss it?

    Too busy actually having straight sex?

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    cliosfanboy says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: apparently there is SCIF at Mara Largo. Can you imagine how many Russians and Chinese ans Israelies have been allowed to go in and mess around…

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    Calouste says:

    @Martin: Also, whether someone is in an in-group or an out-group is almost exclusively determined at birth.

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    OldDave says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: As you probably know, Mark Knopfler wrote and sung about The Battle of Orgreave in the Dire Strait’s song Iron Hand.

    (I might be dancing over the limit of the number of allowed links. We’ll see.)

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    HinTN says:

    @Yarrow: It’s still true that

    He has no “right” to do that.

    YMMV

    Also, too, Fuck Nixon.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Elizabelle:
    OK as can be.
    Update for everyone.
    ER on Wed, back home, no resolution.
    OK on Thur, went to VA hospital, talked to docs, feeling better about the situation.
    Fri, shorter repeat of Wed, got driven to VA hospital – again, admitted to VA ER. 2 MRIs, took an hour on the plank, much discovered, situation is not all that bad for now, an occurrence that is not all that common, but not unknown, have been assigned an neuro attending for early followup.
    So life as a geezer. Some times it’s not as much fun getting to be old. Spent the day on the train, no that’s not right, spent the day waiting for the train, missed the second one of course, made it home after a 2 1/2 hr trip took 5 hrs.

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    Ruckus says:

    @ET:

    He is all too casual and cavalier with things he shouldn’t be and he doesn’t give a flip if that compromises someone, some relationship, or some ability.

    He doesn’t give a damn but he does think this crap helps him. He’s wrong, just as he always is and has been for decades, but that will never stop this asshole.

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    @SenyorDave:

    Exactly why is a farmer any more of a patriot than a teacher?

    Because farmers are louder about their support for white supremacy, and to the people who care most about ‘patriotism’, white supremacy is the same as America.

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    J R in WV says:

    @OldDave:

    (I might be dancing over the limit of the number of allowed links. We’ll see.)

    I’m pretty sure the limit was 3 way back, and that Alain managed to get it up to 5 or 6, with some difficulty. WordPress is pretty hard to modify the standard behavior the original coders set up, so that he was able to do that is little short of amazing.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Ruckus:

    Glad you’re mostly OK! Sounds like a lot of hassle, at least you have a neuro assigned, now if he’s good at it, that’s best of all.

    Hang in there, Ruckus!! We need your wisdom…

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