Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Readership Capture

Vanity Fair:

Obama announced his intention to tackle the issue earlier this year, combining his Organizing for America organization with former Attorney General Eric Holder’s redistricting efforts to create the organization All On The Line, which describes itself as a “national campaign to restore fairness to our democracy and ensure every American has an equal say in our government” by fighting against gerrymandering and advocating for fair maps nationwide. On Monday, Obama went one step further by announcing Redistricting U, a new extension of All On The Line which will provide free, in-person training for redistricting activists…

… While All On The Line’s activism will take place nationwide, the organization says that its efforts will particularly be targeting Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin…


Viola Davis is set to portray Michelle Obama in First Ladies, a one-hour White House drama that has been put on fast-track development at Showtime with a three-script commitment. Davis will executive produce the project, which hails from writer Aaron Cooley (novels Four Seats: A Thriller of the Supreme Court, The Guns of Ridgewood), Davis and Julius Tennon’s JuVee Productions, Cathy Schulman’s Welle Entertainment (Otherhood), Jeff Gaspin’s Gaspin Media (LA’s Finest) and Brad Kaplan (The Intruder). Showtime and Lionsgate TV co-produce…

Davis stars in How to Get Away with Murder, which begins its sixth and final season this fall on ABC. She and Tennon most recently executive produced with Steph Curry the documentary Emanuel, about the mass shooting at Emanuel AME Church on June 17, 2015. JuVee’s Davis and Tennon also are executive producing Fast Color, a TV series based on the 2018 sci-fi film, for Amazon.

And to follow up on Cole’s latest post, Bret Stephens is now getting pigbladdered by The Best:

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    Baud says:

    I wish I had a job where I had time to send emails to all my critics.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    I had no idea bedbugs were white crystals with legs. I’ll give Stephens this much, he certainly allowed for some lightness in what is is an otherwise dreary news morning.

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    Baud says:


    I didn’t realize the email copied the professor’s boss. Lame.

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    Raven says:

    @Baud: Six and a wakeup baby!

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    Baud says:


    I’m jealous. You’ll have more time to take on all your haters. :-)

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    kd bart says:

    @Baud: Sounds like a certain presidential campaign.

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    Raven says:

    @Baud: You know there is much talk about sitting being worse than smoking and all that shit. I’ve been chained to a chair for 15 years and I’m hoping that is going to change most rickey tic

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄 😄😄

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    Danish politicians are trolling the occupant of the White House again. The results are epic.

    Ceterum censeo factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

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    Brachiator says:

    I am loving this bit of satire I recently ran across:

    Trump Orders Americans To Stop Eating Chinese Food

    After already ordering US Companies to stop working with China as part of his escalating trade war, President Trump has hit on the idea of punishing the PROC further by demanding United States citizens give up egg rolls and sweet and sour chicken.

    “I hereby order all Americans to eat McDonalds and KFC instead.”

    Worried fans of Korean BBQ were assured they were safe from any future bans – especially if they made sure it was done in the northern style – while sushi afficionados are closely watching developments.

    “But as for General Tso’s it’s a big NO!”

    Constitutional lawyers have already suggested this is a wild overreach by the White House.

    “Just as there is an implicit right to privacy in the Constitution, there is also one to Peking Duck or whatever you prefer from that cuisine.”

    The President further added that any Jews eating Chinese on Christmas Day are disloyal. Jewish leaders were outraged that one of their precious rituals was attacked in this way.

    “We were going to demand an investigation into why we as a group were singled out until we realized – Trump!”

    Meanwhile extreme leftists said they approve of Trump’s action in this case, despite being bitterly opposed to him most of the time.

    “This wretched cultural appropriation whereby young white males air drum Led Zeppelin with chopsticks will finally be stopped.”


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    Baud says:


    You know, I’ve heard that and am really starting to believe it.


    Good morning.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @(((CassandraLeo))): That is painful. Of course, I feel the same about anything involving the Chump’s voice.

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    Viola Davis and Serena Williams in the same post?
    My day can stop right now, it has been made.

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    NotMax says:


    Bah humbug. You’ll have to pry my comfy desk chair from my cold dead butt.


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    satby says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning 🙋

    @Raven: I believe it. Once I started working from home my weight went up and stamina went down. 20 years of that at an average 50+ hours a week and it’s been hard to start working my way back to better fitness. Being in my mid-60s probably isn’t helping either. I need to restart a walking program or something.

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    Raven says:

    @satby: the research is saying that the exercise doesn’t counteract the negative effects. I walk a couple of miles in the morning, swim every other day and I’m still putting on weight. We’re hitting south beach 1 the day after I retire and plan to kick ya the activity and limit computer time.

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    rikyrah says:

    David Simon is hilarious 😆
    He is a professional writer with NFTG and time on his hands.

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    rikyrah says:

    Been concerned about the portrayal of Forever FLOTUS 😍 😍 in entertainment. Having Viola Davis portray her, means that all others after will have to come correct 👏👏

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    rikyrah says:

    Drew Comments (@sjs856) Tweeted:
    For a black woman to become district attorney, get re-elected, become AG, get re-elected, become a Senator, serve on the intelligence committee, and become a probable candidate to win the presidency she HAS to be OUTSTANDING. Black women don’t get free passes. https://twitter.com/sjs856/status/1166023912934629377?s=17

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Well, dmsilev, who’s in academia himself and knows a bit about these things, assured me that the provost will just delete Stephens’ email and go back to sleep.

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    rikyrah says:

    Zerlina Maxwell (@ZerlinaMaxwell) Tweeted:
    The media would hate Serena if she got caught doping.

    That Maria Sharapova is still beloved by the media is peak white woman privilege and it makes me so upset. https://twitter.com/ZerlinaMaxwell/status/1166110834843693057?s=17

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    debbie says:


    It’s all in the attitude. I think you got this covered!

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I can’t imagine a better casting choice than Viola Davis as Michelle Obama. The other day, I saw some idiot’s comment on a YouTube video that said Davis was ugly. That photo of her is an unanswerable refutation of that claim.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @rikyrah: I do well to avoid his twitter hole.

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    debbie says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    That comment likely came from someone rooting for Beyoncée to get the part. //

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    Betty Cracker says:

    It’s good to see PBO joining AG Holder’s anti-gerrymandering cause and the combined organization’s focus on state-by-state voter mobilization to counteract gerrymandering’s anti-democratic effects. The SCOTUS Republicans made it clear they aren’t going to address the issue. It’s up to people on the ground, and it will be an uphill battle.

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    Baud says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I can’t imagine a better casting choice than Viola Davis as Michelle Obama.

    Maria Sharapova?

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    NotMax says:

    Real odd duck of a show stumbled upon on Prime, season 1 only for free. British series from the 90s, Hamish Macbeth. Some breathtaking Scottish countryside on occasion. Only the most tenuous connections to the books about the police detective.

    And a big yahoo for Prime making the engrossing Australian series Wild Boys available. Stoked to watch it yet again, this time on the a big screen TV set as the lush cinematography is first rate.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I really cannot imagine casting Viola Davis as Maria Sharapova. Davis has too much class..

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    Good evening from Thailand. I’m here for a revision to fix some things that didn’t quite heal right from my last visit.

    Good news: I got a peek after this afternoon’s surgery and things look much better.

    Bad news: I’m stuck here for two weeks without a lot to do. Chonburi is definitely not on the typical tourist path, and I’m suppose to not walk much for the moment.

    Good news: I can finally participate in some of the day-time threads.

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    Baud says:

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    I hope that’s included in the initial price.

    Good news: I can finally participate in some of the day-time threads.

    That makes it all worth it.

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    satby says:

    @NotMax: Good, I need new things. Started to watch a wacky British series, The Flowers, but it’s not grabbing me yet, a bit too dark. I went back to Boston Legal and Good Place reruns. These days I crave light comedy.

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    debbie says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Viola also has no experience at losing so often and so decisively. ;)

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    Spanky says:

    @Raven: It will, but I’m currently in PT for my back because I took “rickey tic” too literally. Be smarter than me.

    Walking is good! Something I made a point of doing in my last months on the job, but I really should have been strengthening my core. And according to my PT, been stretching my hips. She tells me she sees high school students with back issues from sitting too much. Smh.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Amir Khalid: Nicely volleyed.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Amir Khalid: Viola Davis is also a graduate of one of the poorest high schools (in terms of per-pupil funding) in the state of Rhode Island, and through her donations has pretty much singlehandedly kept its theater program alive.

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    NotMax says:


    Yeah, gave up on that one early on. While it sounds as if it doesn’t make much sense, that show tried both too hard and too little.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Sister Golden Bear: Wishing you quick and effective healing. Surgery is never fun.

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    satby says:

    @Sister Golden Bear: Good luck on a better outcome and a rapid recovery this time!

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Sister Golden Bear:
    Glad to hear the good news about the surgery. Now you have time to just chill, and join the BJ fray any time you please. (Athough those may be two contradictory activities, come to think of it.)

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    Kay says:

    Anti-gerrymandering efforts are popular:

    In 2018, five states — Colorado, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio and Utah — passed ballot initiatives to reduce gerrymandering, which will take effect when the next round of redistricting begins in 2021.

    The answer: very well.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I can’t imagine a better casting choice than Viola Davis as Michelle Obama. The other day, I saw some idiot’s comment on a YouTube video that said Davis was ugly. That photo of her is an unanswerable refutation of that claim.

    Also irrefutable proof that the commenter is a stone cold racist, who actually believes Michelle isn’t beautiful, as no black woman could be beautiful. They are so… doomed to be so wrong all their lives from their irrational racism.

    That’s a major part of why they’re usually part of the underclass, struggling to maintain their job, family, life. Irrational hate puts a big hole in your thought processes, to the detriment of your whole life.

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    patrick II says:

    If he’s outraged by someone saying bedbug on the internet — he should try reading the comments at FOX news at any of either of the Obama stories to read something that should really outrage him. Seriously, there’s more racist stuff than even Republican representatives send each other when they are just joking about Obama wearing a bone thru his nose.

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    frosty says:

    @Raven: Woohoo!

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    @satby: @Gin & Tonic:

    Thanks. In comparison to the first round, it’s very minor surgery. Essentially it was all external nipping and tucking. It was an hour on the table, in-patient under local anesthetic. Mostly it was related to having a bit too much tissue leftover — Dr. Suporn intentionally leaves as much as he can, just in case there’s tissue necrosis, which happens sometimes. It’s a lot easier to remove excess tissue than have to do a skin graft if there’s too little.


    I hope that’s included in the initial price.

    It is, although one has to pay the airfare and hotel bills. Oddly enough, I don’t know of too many other SRS surgeons who explicitly offer a free revision.

    @Amir Khalid: True enough.

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    Baud says:

    @patrick II:

    He’s outraged that someone is calling him a bedbug on the internet. He doesn’t care about what other people are called.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Kay: And in Misery the the GOP state lege is trying put a measure on the ballot to undo it.

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    Baud says:


    It seems as if the Republicans are always trying to undo ballot measures. I’ll never understand why they don’t get punished by it by the voters who approved the measures in the first place.

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    HalfAssedHomesteader says:

    Re Stephens: Mark my word, “bedbugs feed on human blood, ergo antisemitism” will be the argument.

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    Sab says:

    @Raven: A friend gave me a ten pound lump of frozen walleye. He and my husband want me to cook it this week. Obviously the full ten pounds is too much for three people.

    Do you have any suggestions, other than next time don’t freeze it in one big lump. Should I saw off a smaller chunk? Attack it with a chisel?

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    Kay says:


    Right. Ohio’s was this giant battle. Republicans knew a very strong version was going to pass so they jumped in with fake offers of compromise, so they know they’re vulnerable to referendum. I think the intent was to muddy the water and make it seem too complex for voters to grasp. But- the activists have done a good job presenting it to people- the pitch is voters should pick their representatives instead of representatives picking their voters.
    Scott Walker leads the (national) opposition to the Obama/Holder group. The DeVos family alone gave 500k of the 3 million conservatives spent to try to beat it in Michigan. They know they’ll lose with a fairer map.

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    Betty says:

    Good morning, all. Checking in with an update. Tropical Storm Dorian has not become a hurricane and is passing over St. Lucia after drenching Barbados. We in Dominica are seeing stormy weather but nothing serious. Looks like we have all made it through this one, but it is early yet. Another 6 weeks at least.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: They just tried, again, to make Misery a Right to Work (for less) state. They knew they would lose if they put it up in the higher turnout November election so they stuck it on the August primary ballot. They lost anyway by a 2 to 1 margin. Again.

    And in November they all got re-elected. Again. Because god, guns and guts, or something.

    We also legalized medical marijuana including the legal right to grow your own. I can’t believe they haven’t tried to undo that 2nd part yet.

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    rikyrah says:


    “It’s particularly rich that Republicans are claiming that [Michigan’s redistricting] commission discriminates on the basis of partisan affiliation,” said @mcpli, a redistricting expert at @BrennanCenter.

    “Actually, that’s what gerrymandering does.” https://t.co/DhuBpVPQvd

    — Flippable (@flippable_org) August 26, 2019

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    Do you have any suggestions,

    Invite me over.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I am tempted to suggest braining your friend with the 10lb chunk of frozen fish. Then you could cook the fish any way you like, and feed it to the police detectives who come to investigate his murder. (h/t Roald Dahl.)

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    rikyrah says:


    The Fox-Trump effort to pin the next recession on the media https://t.co/X75Tl1Z5NS

    — skeptical brotha 🌈 (@skepticalbrotha) August 26, 2019

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    rikyrah says:

    I want one🤗🤗

    Barbie’s Inspiring Women series features “courageous women who took risks, changed rules and paved the way for generations of girls to dream bigger than ever before.” The latest in its lineup will be civil rights leader Rosa Parks. https://t.co/f9cT09lyOr

    — Mother Jones (@MotherJones) August 27, 2019

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    satby says:

    @Betty: That’s good, glad it never got stronger. We’ll all hope for a quiet 6 weeks ahead.

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    Sab says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I’d love to. It’s a long drive, and Steve in Atl was a bit rude about our airport (Happy people flying in. Who knew?)

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    rikyrah says:

    Thread 😠😠😪😪😪

    “I can’t go back,” my client told me as soon as he sat down at the table in ICE detention.

    “They will kill me.”

    I believed him.

    The judge agreed that they probably would kill him, just before he denied his asylum claim.

    He was deported.

    They did.

    I just found out today.

    — Matt Cameron 🗽 (@matt_cam) August 27, 2019


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    rikyrah says:


    2019 American “family values”: politely offering to deport a man’s US citizen children to be killed along with him.

    Why are we accepting this? What the fuck are we?

    — Matt Cameron 🗽 (@matt_cam) August 27, 2019


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    Sab says:

    @Amir Khalid: I could never do that. He’s a lovely person.

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    rikyrah says:


    Butch Kimmerling opposed a gay man adopting a child in his foster care based on “moral grounds”. Later he admitted that he had molested the child in question about once every 3 to 4 weeks over 4 years. Now he’s admitted to molesting even more children.

    — chris evans (@notcapnamerica) August 26, 2019

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    @Amir Khalid: I was ordering dinner online and the local pizza place has durian pizza. 😱

    The seafood cocktail pizza, the crab sticks and corn pizza, and the tom yum pizza, all seem kind of tame by comparison.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    Republicans knew a very strong version was going to pass so they jumped in with fake offers of compromise

    They did the same with medical marijuana here. There were 3 versions on the ballot. One was an almost excellent constitutional amendment, the 2nd was a bid for corporate monopoly of the industry, and the 3rd was just a genuine rat fuck of taxation for conservative causes. If one read closely it was easy to tell which was superior but most people walk into the polling booth having no idea what is on the ballot and just plan to figure it out once they get there. Seeing as a close read of ballot measures and constitutional amendments is not to be expected on election day, I feared the worst, which was that all 3 would pass (one could vote for all 3) in which case it would go to the courts to sort it all out, and take 10 years to do so. Much to my surprise, Missouri voters passed the good one and sent the other 2 to oblivion.

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    @rikyrah: Every accusation is a confession with them….

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Betty: Excellent news!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Betty: Nice to hear.

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    raven says:

    @Sab: A vacuum packer is great but they are pricey and you need to use them a lot to get your moneys worth. This article from our cooperative extension is helpful.

    This advice is from the guy who bought a new fridge and put all his frozen fish in the old one downstairs only to have it break and ruin everything.

    Some days are diamonds
    Some days are rocks. . .

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    rikyrah says:

    Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) Tweeted:
    No agency is more dysfunctional than the Federal Election Commission, despite the efforts of people like @EllenLWeintraub and former commissioner @AnnMRavel to make it work to enforce campaign laws. Now a resignation means it is entirely powerless. Blame Trump & #MoscowMitch

    Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) Tweeted:
    Corruption and kakistocracy combined; no nominees at all through the entire Trump presidency; the commissioners there are all past their terms and are acting. The Republicans on the FEC have all united to block enforcement of the laws. Now only 3 sit, w 4 needed to do anything

    Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) Tweeted:
    #MoscowMitch would like to keep it that way through 2020, so he can brazenly act in defiance of laws and regulations. Trump is delighted to comply. This is outrageous, unethical, immoral, shameless and totally corrupt. https://twitter.com/NormOrnstein/status/1166095185530490880?s=17

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    raven says:

    @Sab: You can really do anything with that big of a piece but do thaw it slowly in the fridge over a couple of days. I’d grill what I could eat and smoke the rest.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Sab: It’s a dirty job but if somebody has to make the sacrifice of eating walleye, I’m the man for the job. Always willing to help out.

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    rikyrah says:

    Yeah….glad to read positive news.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Sister Golden Bear:
    I’m okay with pineapple pizza, but even as a native south-east Asian I don’t think I’d want to try durian pizza.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Sending you positive healing thoughts :)

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    rikyrah says:

    Awe 🤗🤗🤗😍😍

    Our neighbor added a spot in his fence so his dog can say hi to us and this is what my pictures will consist of from now on. pic.twitter.com/lJKb0xaHDi

    — Julie Weatherbee (@juliewbee) August 26, 2019

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    A vacuum packer is great but they are pricey and you need to use them a lot to get your moneys worth.

    We have gotten our money’s worth out of ours many times over.

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    raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: What brand? I assume you use it for more than fish?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @HalfAssedHomesteader: I assumed that’s what was in the tweet David Simon included, but Stephens has apparently deleted his account and GBCW’d twitter

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    raven says:

    @rikyrah: I put one in our fence years ago so the pups could watch the princess work in the garden.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I’m okay with pineapple pizza

    And all along I’d thought you were a man of class and taste.

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    Baud says:


    And in November they all got re-elected. Again. Because god, guns and guts, or something.

    I guess white Missourians understand they have to pick their poison and Democrats are just too much hemlock to swallow.

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    Kay says:


    They did the same with medical marijuana here.

    I’m sort of a contrarian on this issue. I think there’s a lot of bad actors and cynical people involved in the various initiatives and liberals are being naive with the blanket cheerleading they do. I basically stopped talking to the activists. You’re not allowed to raise any questions about this without them insisting nothing bad could ever come out of it and there will be no unintended consequences and if you question it all you are a supporter of the war on drugs. I just flat-out don’t believe there is such a thing as a free ride. There are pluses and minuses.

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    bemused says:

    @patrick II:

    Truth! Rightwingers think it’s funny to hurl the most immature, vile, cruel slurs towards liberals and their right to “free” speech. They dish it out but can’t take the most mild criticism. Gigantic mewling babies.

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    Aleta says:

    Dr. Jacquelyn Gill @JacquelynGill
    I encourage Bret Stephens to come to my lab, meet my students, talk to us for a few minutes, and then tell me to my face that my climate advocacy isn’t based on science. That would take some genuine courage and intellectual integrity on his part. I promise to be courteous.

    (I’ve made this offer to many climate dismissive politicians, authors, thinkers, etc. I’ve never had someone take me up on it. 🤷🏻‍♀️)

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @raven: We use it for everything. I’ll have to go look.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @raven: This one: FoodSaver FM2435 Vacuum Sealer Machine with Bonus Handheld Sealer and Starter Kit | Safety Certified | Silver

    Everything from blue berries and sun dried tomatoes to pork and poultry.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    Since morning threads often have a carpentry component, here’s my question: My deck is basically in four sections, on different levels (basically at 6″ steps.) It’s decked with nominal 4″-wide PT. In the next month or two I will have to remove the decking on half of the largest section, as it’s too close to the chimney, which needs to be rebuilt, and the masons need room to work. I won’t get the decking off without damaging it, as it’s over 20 years old. Trouble is, nobody seems to sell 4″ decking anymore. It’s all 6″. If I rip up and replace that whole section, then it will look stupid with the rest being 4″. I don’t feel like resurfacing the whole thing. Does anyone know of a source of 4″ – I’d pay to have it shipped, but nobody stocks it locally or even can commit to getting it.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    I just flat-out don’t believe there is such a thing as a free ride.

    Say WHAT???? But butbutbutbut my Republican Representative told me my air and water would be clean, jobs as far as the eye could see, and my golden paved streets would be safe to walk on if I gave the rich and corporations a huge tax cut!

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    What can I say? I have my flaws like every other person.

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    Baud says:


    liberals are being naive with the blanket cheerleading they do.

    How out of character. :-\

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Raven: From my experience in retirement, the first couple of weeks feel like vacation. Then the next few feel a bit confusing until you get used to the idea. Of course for me as a retired teacher things got a bit complex at the end of August when I kept having having momentary panics about not having anything prepared for the school year. Even now since I live near a school I get a minute of worry this time of year when things are gearing up. Then there’s this feeling of profound relief.

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    Aleta says:

    @Sister Golden Bear: Good news: I can finally participate in some of the day-time threads.

    That is good news for blog. Thanks for the update.
    Heal on.

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    Spanky says:

    @Gin & Tonic: It may be cheaper to just get the 6″ and rip it down to size. Price that out before committing to something else.

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    Spanky says:

    @Gelfling 545: Truth. I have been laid off a couple of times in the course of my career as a federal contractor, so right now, five months into retirement, I’m still feeling echoes of that “really need to find the next job” urge.

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    JPL says:

    @raven: I have a small hand held that does the trick for me. Since I like to sous vide, I have eyed the larger machine, but still can’t justify the cost.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    It’s decked with nominal 4″-wide PT.

    Go to a lumber yard, by the 6 ” and pay them to rip it down to 4″. Get a trim router and round off the upper corner of the ripped edge. Not cheap but probably cheaper than most other alternatives.

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    rikyrah says:

    “Hard head makes a soft behind”
    – –Ancient African American proverb

    Maine’s loss is Canada’s gain as China goes north for U.S. lobsters.
    “They picked winners, and they picked losers, and they picked me a loser,” Nadeau said. “There is no market that’s going to replace China.” https://t.co/5vdrFlkDRR

    — Michael Tackett (@tackettdc) August 27, 2019

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    J R in WV says:


    We also legalized medical marijuana including the legal right to grow your own. I can’t believe they haven’t tried to undo that 2nd part yet.

    I believe the current strategy is to make the regulatory structure so complicated that no one can actually grow cannabis without being in violation of several regs, and hence a criminal drug manufacturer.

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    rikyrah says:


    Sana Saeed (@SanaSaeed) Tweeted:
    An incoming Harvard freshman, a 17 year old Palestinian boy, had his visa cancelled & was deported because US officials searched his phone/laptop & said his friends had social media posts that were critical of the US.



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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Damn, every time I look at this picture my eyes say it’s a painting.

    Giant egrets scavenge for any scraps of tiny dagaa fish left behind by the women who dry and sell the fish. Lake Victoria, the world’s second-largest freshwater lake is of critical ecological importance. In 2018, the governor of Kisumu County in Kenya, professor Anyang’ Nyong’o, stated that if radical action were not taken, within 50 years, the lake would be killed by pollution dumped there by humans

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    rikyrah says:

    I absolutely agree with this. WHO is making money from his actions?😒😒

    Andrew Gillum (@AndrewGillum) Tweeted:
    Somebody is making money from @realDonaldTrump tweeting the markets into panic. We should find out.


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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @J R in WV: Sadly, you are no doubt correct.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Gin & Tonic: @OzarkHillbilly:
    Couldn’t you go with 4″ wide mahogany decking which, after six months, will grey out to look nearly like weathered PT (not so green). Whatever you put on there is never going to completely match….

    I can’t believe I am suggesting you should do anything to try and match PT for decking.

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    @rikyrah: Short selling hedge funds

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Immanentize: Mahogany? I’ll make sure to post the details of my GoFundMe here first.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Your deck(s) must be huge! My home Depot has 1×4 PT which is only slightly thicker than decking (which is 5/8). If it is multi-level would the 1/4 inch difference really matter?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Gin & Tonic: @Immanentize: Personally, I’d go with ebony for the contrast.

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    Spanky says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Well if you’re going to do that, might as well put down holly for the deck.

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    Immanentize says:

    Ipe! I lost a number of drill bits helping my neighbor deck with that stuff. But it will be there long after I shed this mortal coil.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Too hard to drill, though/

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    Immanentize says:

    @Immanentize: I got that backwards, of course, the decking is slightly thicker that the 1xs. But I guess if you have steps about, that might add a complexity. Just do what Ozark says and I will shut up.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    1×4 PT which is only slightly thicker than decking (which is 5/8).

    5/8??? Decking is 1″ and you need the 1″ to span the 24″ centers of your joists. 1x4s @ 3/4″ would not span 16″ centers without noticeable sag with every step and threat of breaking. (3/4″ work for plywood or OSB on 16″ centers because it’s 4 feet wide by 8 feet long, not 3.5 inches wide)

    And to be honest I’m a little leery of 1″ by 3.5″ on 24″ centers.

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    Spanky says:

    PT decking is 5/4.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize: Dammit Bevus, you corrected yourself before I could! ;-)

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    Immanentize says:

    Huh huh huh huh….

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    Kathleen says:

    @Betty Cracker: The latest Mother Jones has excellent article about AG Holder and what he and his group have been working on. I have no link as I am on phone and I’m part Luddite.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: My deck’s joists are spaced at 16″.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Spanky: Nominal 5/4. That is it is cut at 5/4 but once dried it measures 1″.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Gin & Tonic: That’s good. I was thinking it might be, considering they were all decked with the 4″.

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    dnfree says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: And in Illinois (mostly run by Democrats currently), voters keep signing petitions that SHOULD get fair redistricting on the ballot, and yet it never appears because of some flaw or the other in the petition process.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Kathleen: Thanks for the head’s up. Here is the article, from Mother Jones.

    The Courts Won’t End Gerrymandering. Eric Holder Has a Plan to Fix It Without Them.

    While Democrats are fixated on 2020, Holder is fighting for fairer maps in 2021 and beyond.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Gelfling 545:

    From my experience in retirement, the first couple of weeks feel like vacation.

    I was vastly fortunate to be able to retire pretty early… in 2008, so 11 years ago. Every day still feels like the first day of a long vacation.

    If you’re doing a whole section of the deck, G&T, I would just use decking that’s available locally. You might inquire about TREX decking, which is a high-strength plastic faux wood, and doesn’t wear from sun and rain — it isn’t cheap, but once you cost out ripping 6″ down to 4″ it might be close.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Elizabelle: Thank you! I meant to add to first comment that group hyper focus is local.

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    Shana says:

    @raven: I have a FoodSaver brand that I like. I routinely make chicken stock and freeze it in 2 cup portions. I also go to a kosher supermarket every couple of months since it’s about an hour away from home and get family-size packages of meat that I break down into smaller, usable amounts and freeze those. I also bought a package of resealable bags that I store cheese in so it doesn’t get all moldy between uses.

    Kind of like my husband deciding to buy a tux many years ago: once you have it you find ways to use it. For example he always wears it on the day his firm fetes the office support staff. They bring in a nice lunch for everyone and he acts as a waiter wearing his tux.

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    debbie says:


    You’re long gone, but what about making a vat of fish chowder?

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