Whoop-Whoop! “Sir Alert!”

A while back, CNN’s excellent Trump fact-checker Daniel Dale identified the “sir alert” phenomenon:

I’ve fact-checked every word Trump has uttered since his inauguration. I can tell you that if this President relays an anecdote in which he has someone referring to him as “sir,” then some major component of the anecdote is very likely to be wrong.

Lots of people do call Trump “sir,” of course. But the word seems to pop into his head more frequently when he is inventing or exaggerating a conversation than when he is faithfully relaying one. A “sir” is a flashing red light that he is speaking from his imagination rather than his memory.

In poker parlance, it’s a tell.

In the linked piece, Dale describes how Trump seems to particularly relish tales of tough, burly men tearfully addressing him as “sir,” providing an example of an absolutely false story Trump told about farmers and ranchers blubbering with gratitude at a signing ceremony for an executive order. It was a lie, of course — as Dale notes, there’s video of the event, and there wasn’t a wet eye in the house.

Looks like we need to add “Mr. President” to the “sir alert” trigger-word list in honor of this big, fat whopper:

There’s just no fucking way this is true. I mean, maybe BoJo said something along those lines to suck up; earlier today, Johnson humiliated himself by standing up to Trump on the trade war thusly:

“But just to register the faint, sheeplike note of our view on the trade war, we’re in favor of trade peace on the whole, and dialing it down if we can.”

“Faint” and “sheeplike?” Jesus Jazz-Hands Christ, that’s embarrassing. So maybe Johnson further debased himself by reinforcing Trump’s ridiculous and contemptible conceit that the American media is “the enemy of the people” because non-Fox/Sinclair outlets don’t sing his praises 24/7. But the idea that this was the top question from “fellow World Leaders” is insulting to everyone’s intelligence, and I hope the people Trump’s trying to co-opt for his pity party push back on it publicly.

Open thread.






104 replies
  1. 1
    Spanky says:

    If there are pictures of BoJo with wet pants and dirt on his coat because he rolled on to his back and tinkled before the big dog, I don’t wanna know.

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    dmsilev says:

    Nah, it’s just a misplaced comma. He meant to write “World Leaders who think the USA is doing so well and is stronger than ever”. Since that’s a null set, the most often-asked question from them is pretty much whatever you want it to be. As is the least-often-asked question of course.

  3. 3
    Spanky says:

    OT, although it’s about FYWP: There’s a Tulsi ad on the right side that sez “I will bring a soldier’s heart to the White House putting service above self”.

    I’m getting a strong Mayan sacrifice vibe from that woman now.

  4. 4
    LuciaMia says:

    There’s just no fucking way this is true.

    What? Why of course its true. Just like that story of surgeons leaving their patients on the operating table so they could greet Dear Leader at his hospital visit. Shame on you, Betty.

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    oatler. says:

    We need Chuck Todd to weigh in on this.

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    bbleh says:

    I hope the people Trump’s trying to co-opt for his pity party push back on it publicly.

    Faint hope. They know he’s playing to domestic political opinion, and they both understand that need and care almost nothing about what he says to his followers as long as it doesn’t undermine their interests.

    Also, unlike him, they have sense of statesmanship and responsibility. And BoJo is just doing his usual aw-shucks English-gomer act.

    One can only imagine what they say about him when he’s not around (and they aren’t falling down laughing).

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    CliosFanBoy says:

    Generally World Leaders don’t refer to each other by title when they speak do they? Other than meeting royalist.

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    Shana says:

    Well it could be that no one except Boris Johnson is talking to him outside of a group setting and that he did say something that could be construed as a comment on the US press. Extraordinarily unlikely but possible.

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    JMG says:

    World leaders don’t bitch about the press of other countries, only about their own. If Trump wasn’t so awful, this one would be sad.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Where is Hugh Grant when you need him?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMJcZpvyNok

  11. 11

    Some journos are pushing back

  12. 12
    MattF says:

    @dmsilev: I agree that the null set is involved here— maybe ‘The question I was asked most by fellow World Leaders’. The semantics of the null set (there is only one) are rather subtle. It exists, but it has no properties.

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    Mike in DC says:

    I wonder what the impact of a recession would be on support for impeachment and for a primary challenge to 45?

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    Anya says:

    I really doubt even BoJo would humiliate himself like that. Trump is lying through his teeth.

    I was actually thinking that BoJ might want to learn from the French President how to handle Trump. He doesn’t debase himself but he knows how to flatter Trump just the right amount. But he also doesn’t mince words when he disagrees with him.

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    hells littlest angel says:

    The list of his tells is a long one. “Frankly,” for instance. Anything that comes after that is pure bullshit.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @hells littlest angel: His lips moving is all I need.

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    Wapiti says:

    The question they actually ask is: “Mr. Trump, why do you spend so much effort licking Putin’s… what is that word in English… boots?”

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    tokyokie says:

    @hells littlest angel: I would add to that, the higher the level of honorific, the more wildly exaggerated the story. Or, to quote Dashiell Hammett, “The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter.”

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    Shana says:

    @hells littlest angel: And “that I can tell you” is another

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    ola azul says:

    @hells littlest angel:

    “…, o-KAaay.”

    The dominance-bluster tic that parenthetically assumes compliance (not agreement) n sez: “I’ma lie squarely in your fucking face cuz I happen to know you’re too chickenshit to contradict me.”

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    Jay says:

    LASD Deputy Angel Reinosa, 21, had two holes in his shirt the day he was "shot by a sniper." Today, investigators saw no visible injuries on his shoulder. Then, he told them he cut the holes in his shirt with a knife, there were no shots ever fired, and it was all a lie. @ABC7— Veronica Miracle (@ABC7Veronica) August 25, 2019

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    immanentize says:

    @Shana:
    But has he yet done, “Mr. President, Sir, …”
    Or is he saving that for his declaration of martial law?

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    donnah says:

    If he says, “Trust me” or “Believe me”, don’t.

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    Jay says:

    Trump claimed that the G7 is "left-leaning"🇮🇹Conte: Far-right🇺🇸Trump: Far-right🇨🇦Trudeau: Centre🇯🇵Abe: Conservative🇫🇷Macron: Centre-right🇩🇪Merkel: Conservative🇬🇧Johnson: ConservativeJust a bunch of damn communists…— Vico Psycho Magnet XW (@Nicoxw1) August 25, 2019

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @bbleh:

    BoJo is just doing his usual aw-shucks English-gomer act.

    Yes. BoJo models his public persona on a well known type in British literature and theatre. The upper class twit who is eventually revealed to be playing the role and is really a brilliant detective or secret agent. Think Lord Peter Wimsey or Albert Campion.

    Not comparing BoJo with either, just observing this is who he thinks he is in his own mind.

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    m.j. says:

    “…rooting for it to fail?”
    Of course he’s talking about himself and not the country, but as to the media asking for failure I have to ask, since when? I still am able to turn on Morning Edition during my weekly commute and be almost instantly pissed off. On the way home All Things Considered’s official NPR response to the assholes, “I hereby order,” was to refer to it as, “urging.”
    Jesus fuck.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @Jay: To be fair, most European conservatives would feel perfectly at home in the US Democratic Party.

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    Daoud bin Daoud says:

    @Spanky: I was thinking more along the lines of Aztec sacrifice, but yeah, a definite Meso-American vibe.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Sloane Ranger: Am I missing some cultural context around the “faint, sheeplike note of our view”? It sounds so comically servile — was he being sarcastic?

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    @Jay: “The bullet went through my shirt, just missed my skin and went out the other side. Darndest thing you ever saw. You want to talk about close calls!”

    Who is this guy and why do I care about his fake shooting story?

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    MattF says:

    @Betty Cracker: I was guessing sheeplike = sheepish rather than ovine.

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: click thru and read the thread. His false report caused an all-night manhunt for a shooter. People could have been killed. BTW, someone who (reportedly, though who knows what actually happened) refused to evacuate the apt complex being searched, was taken into custody. No trifling matter.

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    Mr. Kite says:

    Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is traveling the world trying to save the US reputation and influence… https://apnews.com/7083d58ec18a4b7fa5011f8c95b64508

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    scott (the other one) says:

    Video or it didn’t happen. [Narrator: it didn’t happen.]

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    To be obnoxiously fair, I’m pretty sure that “Mr. President” is exactly how the other world leaders would refer to him as a matter of protocol. Now as for the rest of this twaddle……………………….

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    Brachiator says:

    But the idea that this was the top question from “fellow World Leaders” is insulting to everyone’s intelligence, and I hope the people Trump’s trying to co-opt for his pity party push back on it publicly

    Not going to happen. They will do their best to ignore crap like this and stick to meeting agendas. There is nothing to be gained by publicly responding to any of this.

    The US is still the big dog, and Trump enjoys abusing the privilege.

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    ola azul says:

    @m.j.:

    On the way home All Things Considered’s official NPR response to the assholes, “I hereby order,” was to refer to it as, “urging.”
    Jesus fuck.

    Exactly. As opposed to “the delusional preznit today petulantly and impotently demanded ….”

    The unwillingness of peeps who fucking-well KNOW better to speak plainly and directly and forcefully observable truth without ass-covering ornament or dumbed-down diminishment is, apparently, infinite.

    An insidious Orange rage-clown is in charge of the country, and the best NPR types can muster is euphemistic behavioral descriptors like “unconventional”.

    Slow death by chickenshit politesse.

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    @Mr. Kite: Co-equal branch of government. I’d say the tiny-fingered, Cheeto-faced, ferret-wearing shitgibbon had forgotten this, but it’s quite likely he’s never read that far into the Constitution in the first place. No references to “Trump”. Boring!

    Ceterum censeo factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Sloane Ranger:

    Yes. BoJo models his public persona on a well known type in British literature and theatre. The upper class twit who is eventually revealed to be playing the role and is really a brilliant detective or secret agent.

    And then you have Jacob Rees-Mogg, leader of the House of Commons, who seems to be pretending to be an 18th century dandy.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Any time he says “believe me” or “trust me” also means he’s just making shit up.

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    germy says:

    @Brachiator: Was he the inspiration for Monty Python’s “upper class twit” or is he too young?

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    Brachiator says:

    @tokyokie:

    I would add to that, the higher the level of honorific, the more wildly exaggerated the story. Or, to quote Dashiell Hammett, “The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter.”

    No, with Trump these anecdotes are more about someone meekly or humbly approaching him in stupefied amazement at how the mighty and imperious Trump is dealing with some challenge to his greatness.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @MattF: Yes. I agree. It is all part of his affected way of speaking.

    Like I’ve said before, Johnson’s aim at this summit is to walk a tightrope and not irrevocably piss off either European leaders or Trump.

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    B.B.A. says:

    @John Revolta: It hasn’t been generally used since 1800 or so, but the President also historically has the title of “His Excellency.” Nobody tell Il Douche that.

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    FelonyGovt says:

    It’s actually the most minor of the affronts, but the constant random initial caps in his tweets (fellow “World Leaders”; our “Country”) are driving me insane.

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    bbleh says:

    @Brachiator: Naw. The blood-sucking Undead have been dressing like that for centuries now.

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    Another Scott says:

    ICYMI, and in case you didn’t have enough to be depressed about, Drum basically says we’re all doomed:

    This is something that too many people don’t get. What makes climate change different from other environmental calamities isn’t that it’s bigger or farther away or difficult to see. Those things all contribute to our inaction, but the key difference is that halting climate change requires us to dramatically alter our way of life. All of us. For a very long time.

    Human beings aren’t wired to do this. You aren’t doing it. I’m not doing it. Europeans aren’t doing it. No one is doing it. We’re willing to make modest changes here and there, but dramatic changes? The kind that seriously bite into our incomes and our way of life? Nope.

    When I mention this to people, a common reaction is disbelief. You really think people will let the planet burn before they’ll give up their cars? That’s exactly what I think, because it’s happened many times before. Over and over, human civilizations have destroyed their environments because no one was willing to give up their piece of it. They knew exactly what they were doing but still couldn’t stop. They have overfished, overgrazed, overhunted, overmined, and overpolluted. They have literally destroyed their own lifeblood rather than make even modest changes to their lifestyles.

    Hmm…

    I’m not quite so fatalistic. Getting back to 350 ppm CO2 isn’t impossible and won’t require everyone to give up their cars (though giving up internal combustion cars, motorcycles, lawn mowers, etc., would be a good part of the solution). We hit 350 ppm around 1985 – the industrial world wasn’t still using horses and buggies back then.

    As Drum and others have noted, the US is only about 15% of world CO2 output these days. Getting the rest of the world to buy in (in a serious way) and developing efficient new transportation, lighting, heating-and-cooling, and farming systems will do much more than everyone in the US walking to work…

    Changing our energy usage and eliminating burning fossil fuels doesn’t mean that the economy has to stop. It means the economy has to change (as it has many, many times in the past (from wood, to coal, to whale oil, to petroleum, …).

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Brachiator says:

    @germy:

    Was he the inspiration for Monty Python’s “upper class twit” or is he too young?

    Oh, I think he’s too young, but his type has been around for a long time.

    Rees-Mogg may be in a class by himself. He named one of his sons Sixtus.

  51. 51

    The Trump phrase that drives me craziest is when he says something crazy and then says, “You all know that. You all agree.”

  52. 52
    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    Agent Orange is dementing and decompensating simultaneously. A time zone change makes it worse, as does press coverage he doesn’t like. It ought to be a wild week.

    @immanentize: Very OT: you have 📧

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    catclub says:

    @hells littlest angel: mostly if his lips are moving. But I latched onto “believe me”

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    Yarrow says:

    @Betty Cracker: Asked a British friend who is as befuddled as we are by the “sheeplike” comment. Best guess is that he’s offering a small criticism but using the words “faint” and “sheeplike” to downplay it as criticism. Friend says it’s just odd.

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    catclub says:

    @Another Scott:

    the US is only about 15% of world CO2 output these days.

    But only 5% of the world population.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @Brachiator: Pretty much. The irony is that, as a Catholic, Jacob Rees-Mogg wouldn’t have been able to stand for Parliament in the 18th century!

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    catclub says:

    @Another Scott:

    I’m not quite so fatalistic.

    Neither am I, but can you show any counterexamples to what Drum is asserting?

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    germy says:

    A commenter over at LGM referred to “third string intellects over at Balloon Juice” and now I am deeply ashamed.

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblo.....ut-of-luck

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    Brachiator says:

    @Another Scott:

    Changing our energy usage and eliminating burning fossil fuels doesn’t mean that the economy has to stop. It means the economy has to change (as it has many, many times in the past (from wood, to coal, to whale oil, to petroleum, …).

    Countries stopped using wood because they chopped down all the forests. They stopped using whale oil after harpooning most of the whales. We are slow learners.

    Another problem is the smug arrogance and narrow vision of some in the West. After living high on the hog, hell after consuming most of the hog for decades, they now often seem to want to tell the rest of the world that they will now have to radically change the way they live and future expectations, and perhaps even permanently settle for a lower standard of living.

    This is not an easy sell.

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    tokyokie says:

    @FelonyGovt:

    It’s actually the most minor of the affronts, but the constant random initial caps in his tweets (fellow “World Leaders”; our “Country”) are driving me insane.

    I just write off his weird capitalization as an unconscious acknowledgment of his German roots, as every noun is upper case in that language. His embrace of NDSAP theory and rhetoric would be a more conscious acknowledgment of that heritage.

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    m.j. says:

    @ola azul
    You bet. The media’s response to this shithead is to say, “Thank-you sir, may I have another?”

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    Zinsky says:

    I have been told that serial rapists relish being called “Sir”, since they know their manhood is wholly inadequate. Trump is the most insecure degenerate to walk the planet.

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    hells littlest angel says:

    @Mr. Kite: Address him, probably. Refer to him, very unlikely.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Brachiator: I expect the people Trump lied about will do what they perceive is 1) in their own political interest, and 2) in the best interest of their respective countries (order determined by individual integrity).

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    Repatriated says:

    @germy: “…third-string intellects…”? I know! I too realize I’ll never measure up to that high bar set by the rest of the commentariat here. On my best days I’m only fourth or fifth string….

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    Brachiator says:

    @germy:

    A commenter over at LGM referred to “third string intellects over at Balloon Juice” and now I am deeply ashamed.

    That’s funny. I don’t consider myself any kind of intellect at all.

    OTOH, I must sheepishly admit that for as long as I have been on the Internets, I have never really visited LGM. Never.

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    germy says:

    @Brachiator: It was a commenter who said that, not one of the front pagers.

    I am no intellectual, I visit here because I often learn things I didn’t know before.

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    Baud says:

    @germy:

    How did that come up in a post about Andrew Luck?

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    J R in WV says:

    @Another Scott:

    Drum said in part: “They have literally destroyed their own lifeblood rather than make even modest changes to their lifestyles.”

    And it reminds me, on Easter Island, once upon a time, someone cut down the very last tree on the island. Meaning no one could build a boat, there would be no coconuts to eat… cut down the last tree!!

    Because what they were going to do with that tree was more important than working to plant new trees for the future generations. I feel like this is what is happening right now, on an international scale.

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    germy says:

    @Baud: The dummies here have finally stopped posting about football. Even the dummies here realize football is bad. I think that was the point he was making.

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    Brachiator says:

    @(((CassandraLeo))):

    Co-equal branch of government. I’d say the tiny-fingered, Cheeto-faced, ferret-wearing shitgibbon had forgotten this, but it’s quite likely he’s never read that far into the Constitution in the first place. No references to “Trump”. Boring!

    Trump has not forgotten about the branches of government. He doesn’t care.

    Even though he may largely be an incompetent Orange Loony, he is determined to run the country like one of his businesses, with himself as CEO. This is why he looks for every way he can to exert executive authority, even if it means running roughshod over Congress or agencies that are supposed to be independent, such as the Fed. He will talk about “my generals” or “my judges” as though the entire government works for him.

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    Baud says:

    @germy:

    LOL. What a random attack. Sounds like we got under his skin.

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    Immanentize says:

    @catclub:

    can you show any counterexamples to what Drum is asserting?

    Iceland. Until not so long ago, Iceland was strictly a coal and wood(!) Energy country and all of that had to be imported. Vast pollution, huge expense, environmentally disasterous. But now it is one of the cleanest countries on the planet after a huge conversion to geothermal and other renewable sources.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Daniel Dale thinks he’s clever. ALL of Donald’s utterances are basically lies.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Brachiator:

    Rees-Mogg may be in a class by himself. He named one of his sons Sixtus.

    To be fair, not a lot of names pair well with “Rees-Mogg.” 🤔

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    Immanentize says:

    @germy:
    Those folks are jackasses. 🐴

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    Brachiator says:

    @germy:

    It was a commenter who said that, not one of the front pagers.

    Oh, I’m not holding anything against anyone there. I guess I find it mildly amusing.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Brachiator:

    Sixtus! Really…

    Boris Johnson, whose real name is Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, has a son named Theodore Apollo Johnson.

    Even stranger, Cenk Uygur named his son “Prometheus Maximus”!! I don’t how to describe Mr Uygur, nor his naming conventions. I think that this takes the cake in names. Young Prometheus should file for emancipation from his parents, and to change his name to something more memorable, like John Smith, or George Jones. But still, we all have something to laugh about, and that’s a good thing.

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    Jager says:

    If Elizabeth Warren gets the nomination, I think she should open her debate with trump by saying, “Sir, you can call me Pocahantas if it makes you feel more comfortable.”

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    Jager says:

    @J R in WV:

    If Rees-Mogg’s son was an American Jr High student, kids would call him “Sucks Ass”

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @ola azul: NPR is texbook Villager scum.

    Wipe them out. All of them.

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    Calouste says:

    @Jager: I don’t think he’ll be called any differently at Eton.

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    Another Scott says:

    @catclub: On a limited scale – the Black Forest still exists, and regulations protecting (parts of) it were in place in 1579.

    Of course, he’s right that humans too often exploited resources far beyond their capacity to recover. New fuels replace old ones when they’re better and cheaper (not when the supply of the previous fuel goes to zero.) But I think it’s obvious that we’re not going to burn all 5T tonnes of fossil fuels (which would cause a 4.5-9.5 C temperature rise). The only question in my mind is, how quickly are we going to stop burning it? And will it be fast enough to dramatically reduce the chance of killing the oceans, etc.? :-(

    And, of course, different countries, and different regions within a country, are going to stop burning fossil fuels at different rates; the effects of AGW are going to vary dramatically across the world, etc., etc. Saying “everyone and everything has to change or we’re all doomed” is too simplistic. Fear-mongering makes people shut down.

    To be clear: I think governments need to do much more to get people and industries to use much less fossil fuels. The quickest way to do that is to impose a carbon tax (with a sensible rebate) that increases steadily (with enough time for people and industries to adjust in an accelerated timeframe).

    I still have a gas-powered mower, a 2004 diesel VW, and J still drives a 2000 Corolla. We’re thinking of getting a hybrid for our next auto, but probably won’t go full-electric until the car after that. We eat almost no beef and pork. We have a 95+% efficient gas furnace and a 14 SEER AC that we will probably replace next year (with an even more efficient AC). But we don’t have solar panels on our 55+ year old home and don’t buy carbon offsets. We’re worried about the future of the planet, but not to the extent that we’re doing everything we can to fight it. We probably should.

    Maybe Kevin should, too. ;-)

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    chris says:

    @Another Scott:

    I’m not quite so fatalistic.

    So… you’re not paying attention? No disrespect meant, you’re far from alone.

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    Duane says:

    @Shana: Also telling, any form of “believe.”

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    Brachiator says:

    @Calouste:

    I don’t think he’ll be called any differently at Eton.

    Well, “Sucks Arse” instead of “Sucks Ass”.

    But I quibble.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Baud:

    No, some random commenter named Les wrote:

    Football is stupid, violent blood sport for people who enjoy watching men (many of them minority, quelle surprise) injure themselves.

    Back in ancient times (c. 1970-2005) the league regularly rounded up all of the particularly violent hits for a highlight reel so fans could get their violence porn in concentrated doses. Just remember that whenever anyone tries to deny that the violence is the point of this game.

    People who watch these games and broadcasts are complicit in the violence.

    If even the third string intellects over at Balloon Juice have realized this and have stopped posting about football, you might want to examine your choices.

    And then he got jumped on and hilarity ensued.

    But, goddamn, I will say that finding that quote was a compelling argument for no nested comments evah. Not only do you have to mash “Load more comments” at the bottom of the page multiple times, you have to mash “See more” for each and every little nested subthread that gets “too long”—21 times, by my count. Nothing so simple as “Search for ‘Balloon Juice.'”

    And no comment numbers. Ngrr!

    ETA: Jumped on about football, not about calling us third string intellects, let’s get that straight.

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    Another Scott says:

    @chris: See #82.

    What are you, yourself, doing?

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Just One More Canuck:

    Trudeau is “centre.” In that horribly formatted tweet it’s flag, name, position.

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    Jay says:

    It’s very cool that the position of New York City cops is that if they can’t summarily execute someone on the street then the job isn’t worth doing. https://t.co/5DyKRMTw6K— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) August 25, 2019

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    Jay says:

    A strategy like this hinges entirely on media outlets’ willingness to be manipulated by bad fath actors. https://t.co/HxK47W8vIQ— Adam Serwer🍝 (@AdamSerwer) August 25, 2019

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    Just One More Canuck says:

    @Steeplejack: I looked at the original tweet after I commented and tried to edit my comment. FYWP marked as spam, so it went poof

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    “Mr. President, why are you the best president in the history of all people being the best at something?”

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    Jay says:

    Anyone who donates to Joe Walsh should probably know that what they’re likely actually funding is a future run for Congress where he’ll support the same exact horror policies as Trump, fyi— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) August 25, 2019

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    J R in WV says:

    @Baud:

    No football threads here anymore, even we know it’s a violent despicable game, er, racket. But if he knows that, he must be a visitor here, right?

    Who made him visit a third string blog like this, anyways?!?!!

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    @germy: @Brachiator: Guy’s a troll. I’ve never seen him around there………..maybe once. Fuckem.

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    Sm*t Cl*de says:

    @Yarrow:

    Asked a British friend who is as befuddled as we are by the “sheeplike” comment. Best guess is that he’s offering a small criticism but using the words “faint” and “sheeplike” to downplay it as criticism. Friend says it’s just odd.

    Johnston is unconsciously thinking of one of the great parliamentary put-downs, from 1978, when Denis Healey described a criticism of himself as “like being savaged by a dead sheep”. He is probably not even aware that he is telling everyone about the cowering lick-spittle harmlessness of his ‘criticism’.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Brachiator: IMO the appropriate term for Grease-Smogg is fop. Rhymes with “flop.”.

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    chris says:

    @Another Scott: Sorry I’m late, life intervened.

    My carbon footprint is large because I burn 5-6 tons of wood every year but I’d rather do that than use oil or the coal-fired electricity we have here. I drive a 10 year old car about 6,000 miles a year and may give that up in the not too distant future. Not because I want to but because I won’t be able to afford it. I’m in the $400 club, one of the many who can’t come up with $400 for an emergency. There isn’t much more I can give up for the planet except eating and my pets and that will happen soon enough.

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    Another Scott says:

    @chris: As you no doubt know, your fossil carbon footprint is pretty small (the CO2 from burning trees is CO2, but trees get recycled whether they’re burned or not (they’re part of the natural carbon cycle). Smaller than ours. ;-)

    Hang in there.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Steeplejack:

    calling us third string intellects

    This is a mortal insult. We Jackals are second-string intellects at the very least.

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    chris says:

    @Another Scott: The sad part is that I have always tried to live lightly on the Earth and I don’t think it has made a damn bit of a difference. But I applaud your efforts, I know far too many people in denial and many more in plain ignorance.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Agreed!

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    2liberal says:

    @germy:

    A commenter over at LGM referred to “third string intellects over at Balloon Juice” and now I am deeply ashamed

    if you look at the responses the commenter is described as a louis ck defender and in general doesn’t get a positive response. adam , cheryl and the healthcare guy seem to have some pretty good public intellectual chops IMHO

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