Open Thread: Moscow Mitch / Massacre Mitch

(Mike Luckovich via

Adam K. Raymond, in NYMag“How ‘Moscow Mitch’ Is Helping Democrats”:

Wednesday marks two weeks since the KDP began selling its line of Moscow Mitch merch, headlined by a red T-shirt with the slogan “Just say nyet to Moscow Mitch.” In that time, the party, which is also selling beer koozies, shot glasses, and Cossack-style hats, has brought in $500,000 on 13,526 unique sales. Each of those is a donation to the KDP, and more than 90 percent have come from people like Weedon who have never before given to the state party.

“We knew he was underwater, but this really gave us an indication of how angry the people are,” said Nicole Erwin, communications director for the KDP. She added that the Moscow Mitch items are the largest merch campaign the party has ever done. “It blows everything else out of the water,” she said.

Erwin traced the idea for the Moscow Mitch merch back to Robert Mueller’s congressional testimony last month. The former special counsel warned of the Russian government’s continued “efforts to interfere in our election,” and McConnell, who had infamously stopped the Obama administration from making a bipartisan condemnation of Russian election interference in 2016, responded by blocking two pieces of election-security legislation in the Senate…

“We felt like the KDP was in a really unique position to hold the Senate majority leader accountable,” Erwin said. “We’ve really seen the sales take off, and we feel like it’s largely because we have this warning that we need to do something to ramp up election security. And even though bipartisan election security has been proposed, Mitch McConnell refuses to take a stand.”…

(Jeff Danziger via

146 replies
  1. 1
    zhena gogolia says:

    I’ve got monthly donations to Amy McGrath and Ditch Mitch. I haven’t bought any of the Moscow Mitch stuff.

  2. 2
    Yarrow says:

    I love the Moscow Mitch nickname. Sums him up perfectly. Fits on billboards, t-shirts, bumper stickers. Easy to understand. Not surprised it’s helped them raise a lot of money.

    Not as fond of “Massacre Mitch.” Think it could be taken as a directive, which isn’t a good look since we want better gun safety legislation.

  3. 3
    Baud says:


    Right. Don’t dilute the brand.

  4. 4
    MattF says:

    Somehow, Mitch hasn’t figured out that things he says when he’s indignant bring glee to his political adversaries. He doesn’t have many weaknesses, but this is one. He’s a snake, but he’s sensitive.

  5. 5
    Ruckus says:

    Besides Moscow Mitch is not exactly a complement for a US senator, and it looks to be quite truthful and tells a negative story about this asshole. Which he’s more than earned. Moscow Mitch has needed to go for several years now. He’s not doing his job, he’s doing the opposite of the job title he has, so Moscow Mitch is appropriate.

  6. 6
    Yarrow says:

    @MattF: He is sensitive. It’s kind of funny to watch. I don’t know if he’s lost a step or he’s just never had to deal with people who aren’t buying his bullshit but he seems not to have the ability to deal with it very well.

  7. 7
    germy says:

    I remember when protesters confronted Mitch, and he hid in his SUV while Elaine angrily confronted them: “Leave my husband alone!”

    Profiles in courage….

  8. 8
    Geoboy says:

    @Ruckus: “Mosco Mitch has needed to go for several years…” 35 years, to be exact.

  9. 9
    germy says:

    I like how he calls himself “Leader McConnell” on his twitter account:

    Modern-day McCarthyism is poison for American democracy. It is shameful to imply that policy disagreements make the other side unpatriotic. The people who push such unhinged smears are doing Putin’s destabilizing work for him.— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) July 29, 2019

  10. 10

    Is anybody else getting these big TULSI ads all the time? There’s one up top right now. Who’s paying for this shit I wonder?

  11. 11
    Another Scott says:

    It’s great to see this push-back against him. I hope people keep it up until the election and that he is finally voted out.

    In other news, Twitter:

    Charles M. Blow Verified account @CharlesMBlow

    The petition to rename the stretch of 5th Ave in NY in front of Trump Tower #ObamaAve has gone viral and almost reached its goal. If the street is renamed the new address for Trump Tower will be 725 Barack H. Obama Ave.

    [ parade video ]


    (via SarahKSilverman)


  12. 12
    germy says:

    I spoke on the Senate floor today about my extensive record of standing up to Russia, election security, and why we won’t let some Democrats exploit this crisis to push unrelated partisan priorities that have been on their wish list long before 2016.— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) July 29, 2019

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    trollhattan says:

    He’s shown an ability to just sit there and take abuse with a straight (okay, really saggy) face. Prime example being when Grimes beat him like a pinata while he’s sitting in the room.

    With that out of the way, maybe, just maybe Kentucky awakes from their self-inflicted coma come next November. Of course they also bless us with li’l Randy so not holding my breath.

  14. 14
    debbie says:


    It was easy when he was on offense against Obama. It’s far harder to be in defense mode, especially when it’s Trump he’s defending. I can’t imagine he doesn’t harbor some of his earlier Never Trump animus.

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    debbie says:

    @John Revolta:

    Yes. All bright red and Moscow-y.

  16. 16
    MomSense says:

    I’m scrubbing my house (as in Windows, upholstery, curtains) top to bottom and watching the Netflix documentary The Family. It’s insidious. We need to get all of the Republicans out of government. Every last one of them starting with MoscowMitch.

  17. 17
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @MomSense: Now’s your chance to get ahead of the scandal involving the upholstery and curtains.

  18. 18
    Ksmiami says:

    @Yarrow: Fuck him- he’ll be lucky if we let him live in the USA after everything he’s done.

  19. 19
    germy says:

    McConnell and Chao met through a mutual friend, Stuart Bloch, in Washington, DC in the early 1990s. Bloch and McConnell had met in the 1960s and Bloch was married to Julia Chang Bloch, who was a mentor of Chao’s.

    Bloch invited McConnell to a candlelit dinner with Chao. “I don’t want to say that sparks flew,” Bloch told The New York Times, “because that’s not the way either of them is.” But the couple hit it off right away.

    They married on February 6, 1993, choosing that date for three reasons: It’s Ronald Reagan’s birthday, it was just before Chao’s 40th birthday, and it was right before a one-week Senate recess.

    The love affair of the century.

  20. 20
    Yarrow says:

    @John Revolta: Russia? Or Russian dark money PACs?

    @trollhattan: I don’t know if he’s ever been singled out like he is now. He seems a bit thrown by it.

    @debbie: Good point. It’s definitely easier to be on offense than having to defend someone like Trump.

  21. 21
    MisterForkbeard says:

    @germy: I mean, McConnell is right that Democrats have been for election security since forever and Republicans have been actively against it. Good of him to note that.

  22. 22
    rikyrah says:

    A Log Cabin Republican, and why Dolt45 deserves re-election 😠😠😠

    Outrage after largest conservative LGBT group endorses Trump

  23. 23
    MomSense says:


    The scandal is how much dog hair is stuck in the fibers – and I vacuum all the time.

  24. 24
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @MomSense: Scandal! Good luck with the dog hair removal.

    A few hours later…

    Turns out the upholstery and curtains had become mostly dog hair. Damn.

  25. 25
    MomSense says:


    They chose Ronald Raygun’s birthday intentionally?! 🤮

  26. 26
    Nelle says:

    @John Revolta: Big Tulsi billboards flash in Des Moines. We just said, “There’s your Russian money right there.”

  27. 27
    germy says:

    @MomSense: So romantic.

    Vomit emoji indeed.

  28. 28
    trollhattan says:

    Living three time zones away I only sense how he’s doing in D.C. so any surprises Kentucky may have for us are welcome. They can’t do any worse, right? Reich?

  29. 29
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @MomSense: Perhaps it was also the 800th anniversary of McTurtle coming to this planet.

  30. 30
    MattF says:

    @John Revolta: It’s trolling. We need to be able to apply the pie filter to those ads— and have pictures of beautiful pies, rather than pictures of Tulsi.

  31. 31
    SFAW says:


    They can’t do any worse, right?

    Now you’ve done it.

  32. 32
    Yarrow says:

    Dems were out in force at Fancy Farm a few weeks ago. Link.

    FANCY FARM, Ky. — National derision followed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell home as Democrats taunted the GOP leader with T-shirts, signs and continuous chants of “Moscow Mitch” during his speech at St. Jerome Catholic Church’s annual political picnic.

    McConnell and his team have taken the attacks, spawned from his refusal to take up election security measures, more personally than previous barbs. But Kentucky’s senior senator did his best to ignore those hecklers during Saturday’s speech.

    (Bolding mine.) There’s a photo of Dems with Moscow Mitch posters. I saw video on Twitter and they really drowned him out at points.

  33. 33
    Yarrow says:

    @MattF: Maybe click on the ads and get John some of that sweet Russian money. Just delete cookies right away.

  34. 34
    Ruckus says:

    However he really fucking needs to go now because he’s managed to become even worse than he’s been for decades.

  35. 35

    @Nelle: I’ve heard of such being seen in Maine, ferChrissake.
    Poor Jill Stein…………..

  36. 36
    germy says:

    House Democrats just ratified obscene $733B military budget. How does the duopoly have limitless $ for war, but not for 28 million w/out health insurance, 45 million with student debt & a planet spiraling into climate catastrophe? Time for the politics of people, planet & peace!— Dr. Jill Stein🌻 (@DrJillStein) July 19, 2019

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    NotMax says:


    McConnell has over the years become a living version of a Dorian Gray painting.

  38. 38


    I don’t know if he’s ever been singled out like he is now. He seems a bit thrown by it.

    He’s definitely a behind-the-scenes kind of guy. I think he’s also being thrown by the lack of press deference about the whole thing. He’s used to the media repeating his lies and otherwise carrying water for him, so it’s a novelty that they’re reporting on the nickname without even implicitly defending him from it.

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    @germy: Right on cue!

  40. 40
    Yarrow says:

    @Roger Moore: Definitely. He doesn’t really know how to handle it. It’s kind of interesting to watch and I think shows him to be more vulnerable than might have been thought before.

  41. 41
    NotMax says:

    @Roger Moore

    Good. Now let’s start spreading Downhill Donald.

    (There are more pointed words could use adjectivally, but going for a G or PG rating on this would play better, and be more apt to be repeated by the MSM.)

  42. 42
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: I believe that’s just called aging (badly).

    Still an anti-American, Constitution-hating, fascist bastard however.

  43. 43

    @MomSense: Wait, you’re supposed to clean your windows? Then people will be able to see inside.

  44. 44
    germy says:


    Downturn Donald

  45. 45
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: Downhill Donald the sundowning Soviet shitpile traitorous Trump trash

  46. 46
    NotMax says:


    Yes and yes. Am of the school who would prefer to clean a hundred ovens rather than one window. Leaving the venetian blinds shut 24/7 keeps the windows clean enough.


  47. 47
    NotMax says:


    Well, if you want to sugarcoat it…


  48. 48
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: And yet NotMax’s Oven Cleaning Service hasn’t been created.

  49. 49
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @NotMax: Ovens need to be cleaned?

  50. 50
    Miss Bianca says:

    @germy: Oh, go home, Jill, you’re drunk.

  51. 51
    Raven says:

    I didn’t realize the PGA event was at Medinah this week. I caddied in the Western Open there in 1966.

  52. 52
    NotMax says:


    Said I was of the school, not that I’d graduated.


  53. 53
    NotMax says:


    When do the velvet ropes arrive from Amazon?

    We always used to joke those were the one thing missing from the living room in parents’ house.


  54. 54


    He is sensitive.

    He’s a Southern aristocrat, a rich boy born in Alabama and bred in Kentucky. Being questioned or defied infuriates him. Life is supposed to give him everything he wants, and I’m convinced he decided to burn the country down when a black man was elected president. It’s as insulting to him as electing Trump was to us, but he’s an asshole and reacts like an asshole.

    @Roger Moore:

    He’s used to the media repeating his lies and otherwise carrying water for him

    So. Much. This. Mitch perfectly plays the gentleman’s club game that the media worship. He tells shameless lies and describes fucking over the country in polite terms with a responsible and gentlemanly tone. He’s racist as Hell while carefully avoiding all of the unacceptable phrasings. He plays politics with no regard for anything but winning, and in particular has contempt for the results of policies or how they hurt people. That’s ‘elder statesman’ material to pundits.

  55. 55
    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @John Revolta: I get ’em in the sidebar. Report ’em to Google as “offensive.”

  56. 56
    Nelle says:

    I wonder if he’s miffed by the Moscow accusation as he’s been working with Bejing.

  57. 57
    germy says:


    Images of Beijing-backed forces brutalizing civilians speak for themselves. Millions of Hong Kongers protesting the Chinese Communist Party’s encroachment know the truth about exactly who is responsible for “inciting” chaos. The rest of the world knows too— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) August 14, 2019

  58. 58
    germy says:

    The people of Hong Kong are bravely standing up to the Chinese Communist Party as Beijing tries to encroach on their autonomy and freedom. Any violent crackdown would be completely unacceptable. As I have said on the Senate floor: The world is watching.— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) August 12, 2019

  59. 59
    Mike in NC says:

    @NotMax: We’ve been replacing the blinds in every room with plantation shutters. 1000% improvement when it comes to cleaning them.

  60. 60
    Uncle Cosmo says:



    Works as a lawn sign, bumpersnicker, or crowd chant. And for the reverse of the Moscow Mitch mugs, here’s the Russian translation:

    Просто скажи

    The kirillitsa will probably toss me into the Lubyanka immoderation, but what the fuck…

  61. 61
    Uncle Cosmo says:

    And sure as fuck…Pull my goddamn post out of immoderation, why doncha.

  62. 62
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: Sorry. I forgot ‘mobster conman’! :)

  63. 63
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Miss Bianca: Drunken tweeting – dreeting?

  64. 64
    Bill Arnold says:

    Has anyone traced Moscow Mitch back to its origins? The earliest I found in a few minutes is this, but my twitter search-fu is weak.

    We’re coming for Moscow Mitch.— Claude Taylor (@TrueFactsStated) April 28, 2019

    I had stopped following Claude a while back (mainly by accidents causing feed rebuilds).

  65. 65
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: Well, if you need to pass your Chicago-oven test*…

    *Sorry, tests are only given in the dead of winter.

  66. 66
    Miss Bianca says:

    @germy: Funny, “Leader McConnell” doesn’t seem to think the world might be watching America’s brutal crackdown on immigrants or refugees, or our own citizens protesting it.

  67. 67
    Miss Bianca says:

    @mrmoshpotato: Twunking.

  68. 68
    hueyplong says:

    So now the shoulder injury has limited McConnell to being an internet troll.

    How Russian. How Trumpian.

  69. 69
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Miss Bianca: LOL

  70. 70
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @hueyplong: How Republican.

  71. 71
    zhena gogolia says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    Did he protest the riot police beating peaceful demonstrators bloody in Moscow?

  72. 72
    Fleeting Expletive says:

    Germy and Nelle: I’m a little confused by Moscow Mitch’s apparent advocacy of the Hong Kong protests while he seems to have had a…hand in securing that aluminum mine for Kentucky from China. I’d like to hear more about the Hong Kong/China situation as well. Appears to me that HK is in an existential struggle because if China achieves the power to extradite any rebels they want (and whatever happens to them then) then the independence movement will be crushed.

  73. 73
    Another Scott says:

    @Bill Arnold: Google Trends seems to indicate that it started taking off most recently on July 26 – the date of Dana Milbank’s article in WaPo.


  74. 74
    Miss Bianca says:


    He’s a Southern aristocrat, a rich boy born in Alabama and bred in Kentucky. Being questioned or defied infuriates him. Life is supposed to give him everything he wants, and I’m convinced he decided to burn the country down when a black man was elected president. It’s as insulting to him as electing Trump was to us, but he’s an asshole and reacts like an asshole.

    This. How dare Those People question him or think they have some sort of *right* equal to his own, to rule, to represent, or to be represented. Better to turn our republic into an autocracy, if it gets rid of Those People.

    It’s a particularly noxious form of WASP male privilege – burning the country down is totally cool by them, because they can never for a moment imagine that *they* might get caught in the flames.

    I’d like to live to see Turtle McConnell get caught in the flames, and roasted in his own shell. As a cautionary tale, if for no nobler reason.

  75. 75
    Bill Arnold says:


    He’s a Southern aristocrat, a rich boy born in Alabama and bred in Kentucky. Being questioned or defied infuriates him. Life is supposed to give him everything he wants, and I’m convinced he decided to burn the country down when a black man was elected president.

    Loyal Americans burnt Atlanta in the War of the Rebellion. (AKA the “Treasonous Slaveholder’s Rebellion”, among others).

    ETA Miss Bianca, hah. Glad to see it’s on peoples’ minds.

  76. 76
    Yarrow says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    It’s a particularly noxious form of WASP male privilege – burning it all down is totally cool by them, because they can never for a moment imagine that *they* might get caught in the flames.

    A bit Leopards Eating People’s Faces party-esque. The turtle never imagined the leopard would come for him.

  77. 77
    Yarrow says:

    @Another Scott: July 26th is the day Joe Scarborough called McConnell ‘Moscow Mitch.’ I think that’s what really made it take off.

  78. 78
    Fleeting Expletive says:

    Ugh. Brain fart–It’s The Russians and not China trying to build an aluminum mine in Kentucky.
    Never mind.

  79. 79
    Ruckus says:

    @Miss Bianca:
    I think Jill is this bad sober, being drunk might actually be an improvement.

  80. 80
    Ksmiami says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: tumbrels and guillotines are coming back in style

  81. 81
    MomSense says:


    Velvet ropes? I’m wondering if Amazon sells tactical nukes. I started chasing after the dog hair and now I’ve moved and taken apart everything in the downstairs. Now I just want to destroy it all and start over.

  82. 82
    SFAW says:


    July 26th is the day Joe Scarborough called McConnell ‘Moscow Mitch.’

    Viva Fidel!!!

    ETA: Para el veintiseis de julio, naturalmente

  83. 83
    Capri says:

    The most glorious thing about this is that he has put a face on the problem GOP intransigence. With the rise of “Moscow Mitch” there has been an equal and opposite decrease in the press blaming the lack of progress to pass popular bills on “Washington” or on “Congress.” There is a now an individual to point to, which makes telling the story 100% easier.

  84. 84
    SFAW says:


    Now I just want to destroy it all

    Careful! People might think you’ve become a Republican.

  85. 85
    germy says:

    The Leopard and The Turtle

    A Fable

    A Turtle, having been flipped onto his back by Political Winds, whimpered piteously until he was discovered by a Leopard.

    “Please Leopard,” the Turtle implored. “Flip me back onto my proper position and I’ll see that you are amply rewarded next election!”

    The Leopard thought upon this for a moment, then stepped closer and nuzzled the Turtle’s underbelly with his snout. “Your offer is tempting,” he replied. “But I prefer my meals to be immediate, rather than dependent on election cycles.”

    And when the Leopard was done feasting, he flipped the empty shell over, so as to be a good sport about the thing.

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    JPL says:

    @Bill Arnold: He must be a member of The Family.

  87. 87
    Bill Arnold says:


    And when the Leopard was done feasting, he flipped the empty shell over, so as to be a good sport about the thing.

    Is this original? Worthy of high praise. :-)

  88. 88
    SFAW says:


    As long as the Leopard started with the Turtle’s face, it’s all good.

  89. 89
    germy says:

    @Bill Arnold: Thank you. I just dashed it off now.

  90. 90
    SFAW says:

    @Bill Arnold:

    Is this original? Worthy of high praise.

    germy’s high already. Or is that not what you meant?

  91. 91
    germy says:

    @SFAW: It was a face-eating party.

  92. 92
    Miss Bianca says:

    @SFAW: That was kind of where I wanted to see it go…damn it, that’s what I hate most about this timeline, it’s turning me positively ghoulish.

  93. 93
    Dan B says:

    @MomSense: We watched The Family. It was like watching the workings of the group that wants you dead or invisible. Apparently there was a lot of homoerotic behavior in the young guys home. One story was a guy wore bikini underwear and would sit in guys laps and make homophobic comments. It was toned down for the series Major hypocrisy on display.

  94. 94
    JPL says:

    Has anyone watched The Family on Netflix? My short review is that it scared the shit out of me.

    hahah All I had to do is read the comments. It makes me feel dirty

  95. 95
    Bill Arnold says:


    germy’s high already. Or is that not what you meant?

    True, but it’s good enough to go viral.

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    scott alloway says:

    @Miss Bianca: He’s not a WASP. Ill-bred and without redeeming social value but not a WASP. Grew up with a few in New England. Not all bad. E. Digby Baltzell coined the term and went deeper about it in “Puritan Boston and Quaker Philadelphia.”

  97. 97
    germy says:


    germy’s high already.

    If only. I haven’t been high in ten years (ever since my weed guy started listening to (and quoting) Alex Jones.

    Maybe someday my state will legalize it. Until then I remain on the ground.

  98. 98
    JPL says:

    @Dan B: They are fascists… A friend who is a believer that only those who believe in Jesus go to heaven and I watched it together. Both of us were concerned about the lack of separation of church and state because it harms both communities but benefits corporate leadership.

  99. 99
    Dan B says:

    @rikyrah: The gay intertubes have been howling about the gay Trump supporters’ self hatred, delusion, and racism for days. Will they be loving them some Pence soon?

  100. 100
    SFAW says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    it’s turning me positively ghoulish.

    Something about trying to maintain your ghoulish figure? No, that doesn’t sound right.

  101. 101
    SFAW says:


    (ever since my weed guy started listening to (and quoting) Alex Jones.

    I was going to make a comment about getting high on his own product, but I thought weed was NOT supposed to make you psychotic. Hmmm.

  102. 102
    JPL says:

    @germy: My one and only pot story.. While in college I tried it and hated it but shared my experience with my dad. He was a navy guy and said his experience in the thirties was the same. (That’s 1930’s) My brothers are shocked when I tell them that story. Pot has been around a long time, and will be around a long time. Hopefully fathers and daughters can share their experiences with each other for decades to come.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @scott alloway: If you’re trying to kid yourself that the self-styled Southern Aristocracy is somehow *not* predominantly made up of White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, go for it. But don’t try to kid me. I speak from the perspective of generations of both New England *and* Tidewater ancestry on both sides, as well as fighting Scots-Irish, and little as any of them might like to acknowledge the existence of the others, they are all cut from the same piece of socio-genetic cloth.

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    NotMax says:


    Much of the stuff relating to The Family was disclosed years ago during the K Street kerfuffle. That it has come around again demonstrates the short-term memory of the general populace in stark action.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    I think Scots or Irish makes you not Anglo-Saxon. The name McConnell kind of disqualifies him.

  106. 106
    JPL says:

    @NotMax: According to the show Eisenhower agreed to the breakfast as a tool against the cold war. You’d have to wonder if he were alive, how he would feel. He unleashed the devil. Truthfully fundamentalist are no different that communist in the sense they both want state run beliefs imo

  107. 107

    @Miss Bianca: This kind of roasted?

    “You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of a sudden, you look down and you see a tortoise crawling toward you. You reach down; you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?”

    Thanks to Moscow Mitch, we are all replicants now.

    Ceterum censeo factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @zhena gogolia: That would come as a hell of a surprise to my Scots ancestors, all of whom had substantially intermarried with the English for generations.

    ETA: Mark you, I’m just as happy to claim no kinship to McConnell, who I consider a jumped-piece of white trash, personally.

  109. 109
    Dan B says:

    @JPL: I would give Jesus a week or two with the Family members. They’d have him in solitary in a jiffy.

    My partner couldn’t watch the whole series. It felt like the prequel to the Handmaid’s Tale. Made me think about getting to Canada and how close Seattle is.

  110. 110
    scott alloway says:

    @Miss Bianca: @Miss Bianca: Agree. But the Yankees were pretty adamant about the “British” part. I’m mixed: Scots, English and Swedish. Not a true WASP to them. Mother was, however. Dad brought the Scots/Swedish lineage into the mix.

  111. 111
    germy says:

    Have you seen this latest example of deepfake technology?

    Bill Hader on a talk show. He tells a story about Tom Cruise, and then as he begins imitating Cruise, his face changes into an exact likeness.

    This tech is going to seriously add to the fake news epidemic when the elections heat up.

  112. 112
    JPL says:

    @Dan B: The pup was not happy but I hope others watch it.
    efg would be happy how many times I evoked his favorite words. In his memory of course.

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    mrmoshpotato says:


    Has anyone watched The Family on Netflix? My short review is that it scared the shit out of me.

    hahah All I had to do is read the comments. It makes me feel dirty

    Well then, I’ll just stick with Mindhunter to not feel so dirty.

    I’m not surprised, looking at the past few years. The Talibangicans have really let their Bible-thumping, Bible-humping flags fly.

  114. 114
    JPL says:

    @mrmoshpotato: I’m thinking that we need a front pager put up a post about it. The series is uneven but it’s truly about how fascism wins. IMO

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    trollhattan says:

    Alex Jones+weed=Libertarian? Trying to square the circle because dedicated weed smokers are seldom as angry as Alex Jones.

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    @MomSense: I have Jeff Sharlot’s book The Family. That book is the basis for the Netflix docu, right?

  117. 117
    trollhattan says:

    @Miss Bianca:
    When I think of Turtle, I think of Breaking Bad’s Tortuga’s fate.

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    @JPL: I believe all more than 1-2 term DC pols have some connection to the Family, if only by attending National Prayer Breakfast.

    In last several yrs the Breakfast has been used to slam dems–directly or infirectly.

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    JPL says:

    @Ladyraxterinok: For me watching it with a person who believes that if you don’t believe in Jesus there is no salvation was enlightening. She was as horrified as I was.

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    Dan B says:

    @Ladyraxterinok: Sharlett’s book is the basis and he is on camera a lot. The series would be improved by editing out about a third.

    It would be better if they had included the latent homosexuality since this seems to be one of the motivating factors. There was a decent amount of coverage of the disdain for women but some psychological profiling would add depth.

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    JPL says:

    @Dan B: definitely agree.

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    cmorenc says:


    Good. Now let’s start spreading Downhill Donald.

    Deranged Donald.

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    Raoul says:

    Just ordered a tee and added an extra 10 bucks!

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    Gvg says:

    @scott alloway: WASP=white Anglo Saxon Protestants.

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    Mike G says:

    Good. Now let’s start spreading Downhill Donald.

    I like this. If there’s one thing he hates, it’s having the image of a loser.
    He can shrug off being called crazy, or crude or aggressive or whatever, but he goes batshit if portrayed as anything less than super-successful.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Dan B:

    The gay intertubes have been howling about the gay Trump supporters’ self hatred, delusion, and racism for days. Will they be loving them some Pence soon?

    The more political evangelicals think Pence is not nasty enough. They like D.J. Trump because he is a very evil man a strong man. Manly. If Kamala Harris debates him, I hope she hovers behind him with a long very sharp knife in hand, or uses that as a threat to get him to stay near his podium. :-) Pepper spray or mace would do if the Secret Services doesn’t allow knifes.
    In God’s country – Evangelicals view Trump as their protector. Will they stand by him in 2020? (Elizabeth Bruenig, August 14, 2019. Very good piece by the way. Private browsing window if out of free samples and not a subscriber.)

    But then Maria Ivy warned that Pence is soft compared with Trump, too decent and mannerly to take on the job. Bob Collins agreed: “The president is having to deal with a den of vipers,” he said. “I’m not sure Pence could do that.” “It’s spiritual warfare,” Dale Ivy added, emphasizing that Trump is the only man in the field who seems strong enough to confront it.

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    Dan B says:

    @Bill Arnold: Good to know fundamentalists feel Pence is weak. In Indiana, you may know, he took money out of an HIV prevention program and gave it to a “conversion therapy” program. There was a spike in HIV in a county shortly after. I recall his popularity rating was in the teens in Ind(KKK)iana! He may be even less effective if he gets the White House but I’m not interested in finding out.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    Well, I stand corrected. I didn’t realize Scots were Anglo-Saxon.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    Just in case anyone is interested, “found dead after a fall”:

    1. NEWS: Jerry George, who was the LA bureau chief of the National Enquirer & worked for American Media for 28 years, has diedGeorge confirmed to @EricaRHill AMI had a safe with its catch/kill storiesHis ex-wife just told me she does not believe his death to be suspicious— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) August 14, 2019

    I haven’t found any other sources for this so treat it as single twitter source for now.

    National Enquirer Investigated by FBI Over Possible Saudi Influence Peddling – It all started with Jeff Bezos’ sexts. (James West, August 15, 2019)

    Will be interesting to see how/if “Coverup General” William Barr reacts to this. This is conspiracy mill feedstock, and frankly a little suspicious, since Jerry George knew stuff about rich and famous and powerful people.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Gvg: Not all white protestants with British ancestry are WASPs.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    The Blaze (RW, FWIW), 2018, more context on George:
    Former ‘National Enquirer’ chief reveals what Trump stories are locked in their safe (August 24, 2018)

    “I know stories involving, you know, marital discord,” he said. “I know of stories of infidelities on the president’s part, and also stories on the children, I mean, between the Trumps and the Kushners, they have more skeletons in the closet than the Adam’s Family, as the old joke goes.”
    “There’s a lot of material there,” he claimed.
    George said that the stories also involved Trump’s ex-wives, and his current wife, first lady Melania Trump.
    “Very little is reported on their personal life,” he said, “and the National Enquirer which prides itself on being the investigative tabloid that can eke out the most sensational stories, turned a blind eye to everything that was unpleasant in that family.”

    He no longer knows stories, knows of stories, because he’s dead. (Assuming the report of his demise is true.)

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    Captain C says:

    @germy: Deadbeat Donald

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    Ruckus says:

    @Captain C:
    Deadbeat Donald.
    Has a ring to it. Also true. And he dislikes being called poor, deadbeat, broke, not even a millionaire even more than he does being called almost anything else. So, FUCKING DEADBEAT DONALD.

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    NotMax says:

    @Captain C

    Trouble with that has always been it carries the implication of not paying child support, something AFAIK with which he has never been tarred.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @NotMax: Make him deny it, LBJ would.*

    *[Obligatory Fuck LBJ goes here]

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    J R in WV says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Great to see tradition being upheld!

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    Zinsky says:

    Turtlehead McConnell is truly one of the lowest forms of life to ever inhabit the Earth. If I could be granted one wish, I wouldn’t wish for personal wealth or a mansion or any other material things. It would be that Donald Trump, Mike Pence and Mitch McConnell would all have massive heart attacks at the same time while on national TV. Seeing those monsters all drop for the final time and Nancy Pelosi being sworn in as president, would be the greatest things that could happen to this world!

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @zhena gogolia: Not all Scots. Just Lowlanders like “my people”. Just to confuse things. ; )

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    Jazzdad51 says:

    If you haven’t seen this Moscow Mitch musical, it’s worth the watch.

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    Joe says:

    He’s a traitor… Period.
    He’s sold out the USA…

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    I have a line for him AMERICAN TRAITOR FOR RUSSIA

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    Laryn A Tapp says:

    I would love a #MoscowMitch yard sign….especially since I live in Kenticky!

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    Idahoemme says:

    @Yarrow: is it true that mitch’s wife’s Cho family in China owns the largest coal shipping company in the world? Hmmmm. Maybe he’s Moscow Mitch O’China.

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    Marly Jean says:

    @Yarrow: Massacre-Moscow- Grim Reaper Mitch is a criminal .He should be aware that he has bloody hands. One should not be ashamed to tell it as it is. Many mass shootings happen under his Leadership and he didn’t do anything.
    The problem is the millions that he is receiving from the NRA that he considers more valuable than human life. Some days God will redeem the blood of his innocent children. American people who vote for someone like him must be living in the twilight zone.

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    Lmq says:

    @zhena gogolia: they’re not. They’re Celtic. But they’re also Protestant and therefore used by the English to control land in Ireland.

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    Lulymay says:

    @JPL: Errol Flynn was a pothead, and that is around the time that I was born! 1939 and I just celebrated my 80th…. I think I’ll just settle for a box of red or white…..altho my French Canadian husband tells everyone that he orders it in a 45 gallon drum just for me. Ain’t he sweet….NOT!

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