#Greenland is rich in valuable resources such as minerals, the purest water and ice, fish stocks, seafood, renewable energy and is a new frontier for adventure tourism. We're open for business, not for sale❄️????? learn more about Greenland on: https://t.co/WulOi3beIC
— Greenland MFA ?? (@GreenlandMFA) August 16, 2019
A daily embarrassment.
In recipe news – I’m going to do a recipe thread weekly again – do you want Friday evening or Sunday evening? (Those are your choices, if you want another day, bookmark my blog, you jackals. ?)
Open thread
zhena gogolia
I vote Friday
Jeffro
Any other president starts musing out of the blue about buying Greenland (I still can’t believe I typed that) and it’s 25th amendment time. This president*, this timeline? Not so much.
Are we SURE we’re not some sort of weird reality show for aliens called “DunceWorld” or something?
mrmoshpotato
Points off for no eyeroll emoji in Greenland’s MFA’s tweet. Or several eyeroll emojis, or 280 eyeroll emojis.
I vote for Friday recipes. “That sounds good. I’ll have to make that tomorrow.”
Sab
Friday.
Elizabelle
@Jeffro:
You beat me to it. And kudos for the asterisk on president.
Ruckus
@Jeffro:
I thought it should be “Absolute Bottom” but then you just know someone would try to beat the record.
mrmoshpotato
@Jeffro:
We’ve been living in 25th Amendment land for 2.5+ years. Also ITFMA land, but the Rethuglican House wasn’t going to touch their tax break sugardaddy.
mrmoshpotato
@Ruckus: Thar be treasure under the Marianas Trench matey!
ET
HAHAHA The caption for the photo (not that POTUS is fat shaming a supporter) – the pot calling the kettle fat.
Baud
I assume MFA stands for Mother Fucking Arctic.
Jager
Speaking of real estate, Mrs. J and I sold our house up in the canyon, so we’re house hunting. We’re on all of the real estate lists. I got one this morning for a 6 bedroom, 10 bath house in Thousand Oaks, CA.for only 29 million dollars. I have no idea why they sent it to us, but they did. With 9 million down, a 30-year mortgage would be 107 thousand a month plus taxes and insurance. The mind boggles. I just got off the phone with our agent, I told her about it, she said, “the buyers of properties like that almost always pay cash.” We really need to raise taxes on the 1% and fast.
Baud
@Jager:
You can probably talk them down to 25.
rikyrah
Greenland???
How is this not proof that he is mentally unstable???
Elizabelle
Leaking to the Wall Street Journal that Trump floated the idea of purchasing Greenland: could this be Republicans trying to get him out of the way for a replacement candidate in 2020?
This comes on the heels of numerous polls showing Trump with an underwater popularity rating in states he won. Although who knows if polling reaches the deplorables who showed up to vote in 2016?
The economy is showing weakness on multiple fronts. Big money supporting the GOP has to be concerned.
The Moar You Know
Denmark has an enormous amount of power and say in the future of the Arctic by owning Greenland. Giving that up would be national suicide.
Can’t believe Trump just thought he could buy it. We don’t have enough money. The future returns coming from being a member of the Arctic Council (Canada, the Kingdom of Denmark (including Greenland and the Faroe Islands), Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden and the United States) dwarf any amount we could offer for the land.
China has been trying to bulldoze their way into the Council for years and it’s not going to happen. They cannot muster any territorial claim, no matter how hard they’ve tried to stretch the definition of “Arctic” and “China”. A little more melting – which is inevitable – and that really will be the world’s most valuable real estate.
@Jeffro: It’s not out of the blue. Russia wants him to. Frankly, if we could and it were on offer it would be in our interests as well.
For once, this is not Trump sundowning or overdosing on Quarter Pounders.
germy
https://trailers.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/raise-hell-the-life-times-of-molly-ivins/
different-church-lady
@ET: A man whose ass is slowly working its way around to the front of his body is fat shaming someone else in the world?
Barbara
Greenland has been on my list of places to visit ever since I read “Greenlanders” by Jane Smiley. If you want a summary of the book, let’s just say that it was hard to finish and the ending was grim. However, it triggered a fascination on my part with the place. I have been to Iceland twice, and you can combine a trip to both places if you leave yourself enough time. Cruises also go there. The coast of Greenland is approximately the same circumference as the earth itself, because it has so many inlets.
Elizabelle
Satirist Andy Borowitz takes on Trump’s latest idiocy:
The New Yorker: Denmark Offers to Buy U.S.
jl
Wiki says Greenland is an ‘autonomous country’ dependent on Denmark, and officially part of the Kingdom of Denmark. So, it is betwixt and between a colony and and independent country. They said they’d far prefer tor take their chances with Denmark. Forgot whether I saw that on twitter, or heard in a news report this morning.
Turns out the idea is a retread from the Andrew Johnson administration.
@YAppelbaum
This was literally the plan when we tried to grab Greenland in 1867:
https://twitter.com/YAppelbaum/status/1162157631194259456
Found via Josh Marshall’s twitter
Edit: I have to wonder if the real plan is to turn Greenland into a vast ice cube factory and glacial water source for Trump properties. The ice is melting anyway, why let that go to waste and flow into the sea? Trump emolument clause business enterprise genius strikes again!
MattF
We can expect that ‘Buying Greenland’ will now become a litmus test for true Republicanism.
germy
mrmoshpotato
@ET: Such short fingers – makes sense for a short-fingered vulgarian.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Ministry of the Fucking Arctic, you clod!
germy
scottinnj
It’s actually an amazingly strategic move – once we capture Greenland, we can then take Canada and Mexico and we get five extra armies a turn as we control North America. Plus, Greenland is an excellent springboard to capture Iceland, and if we control Iceland, we prevent Putin from taking control of Europe, and also getting 5 extra armies a turn. We can let Putin and Xi hash it out over Asia and while they aren’t watching we can move into South America, and then get two extra armies a turn.We can then win a war of attrition, even if the dice come up tied more often than might be expected.
It’s a brilliant strategic move, actually, if you are playing Risk.
NotMax
The crazy, it burns.
On second thought, crazy doesn’t even scratch the surface when it come to describing the timeline.
germy
germy
mrmoshpotato
@Elizabelle: I for one welcome our new Danish universal healthcare providers.
NotMax
Happy holiday! Hope y’all got your Admission Day shopping done in time. (HI state holiday.)
;)
cmorenc
Do you want me to send you back to where I found you? Unemployed? In Greenland?
(From Princess Bride: said by Vizzini to Fezzik when Fezzik expressed his reluctance to participate in Vizzini’s plot to kidnap and kill the Princess).
The Dangerman
So, was Greenland going to be the place to ship all the immigrants (non-white ones, I mean) or the place to ship all the liberals? I need to know so I can go shop for a jacket and muk luks.
Had to be in downtown LA yesterday and I heard it was first day of school. Public service announcement: Don’t drive in LA on the first day of school. You’re welcome.
mrmoshpotato
@germy:
Gonna be? It’s not already? To think we could’ve had a real President…
jl
@germy: Whatever happens, including Trump caused economic problems, he is the only one who can save us!
If there is an economic slowdown or even a recession, certain mindless pundits and corporate press will get savvy and say that presidents don’t have much effect on the economy, and it is a mistake to blame or credit Trump for a causal effect on business cycle. But if there is an exception, it is Trump. Even if a downturn would have occurred anyway, Trump policies have done nothing but make the US more vulnerable to downturn and less able to cushion one that does occur.
I’ve been thinking downturn in world growth would be a the most likely proximate trigger. If Germany goes into a recession, and that drags down EU economic growth, UK’s growth damaged in short turn due to a hard no deal Brexit, and China’s continues to experience a substantial growth slowdown, that cannot but affect the US economy.
Take the GOP rich persons’ tax cut as just one example. It has done nothing to boost real business investment, and signs are growing that it is hurting it. The US economic expansion is running almost entirely on growth in consumer spending. But Trump policies have been putting a drag on that. The immediate effect of the GOP tax cut has been to increase the trade deficit, send more Gross National Income overseas (everyone admitted that, GOP and e.g. Krugman and DeLong etc., they just differed on what that would do for the economy). And Trump almost random and fitful tariff war battles have further reduced investment and now even Trumpster partically admitted, increase real consumer costs in the US.
No way Trump can escape substantial blame for what happens during next downturn either before or immediately after 2020 election.
AliceBlue
@jl: I believe Truman also expressed an interest in purchasing Greenland in 1946.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Admitting to what?
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
That would be telling.
:)
Frankensteinbeck
@Elizabelle:
No. He’s an asshole everyone hates to work for or with, so they leak embarrassing information constantly.
jl
And ridiculous and disgusting that Trump now seems to think that the Fed is his new billionaire daddy. He expects the Fed to bail out any and all of his incompetence. Given Trump’s actions to immediately undercut the Fed rate cut with new tariff nonsense, immediately followed by Trump demands that the Fed run in again to cut rates if needed to fix any problems that tariff war produced, Fed unlikely to be willing.
And if world economic growth does take a serious downturn, unlikely the Fed will be able. The Fed will be in a very tight spot, deciding on whether to use standard tools to forestall a downturn, or save policy tools for cushioning a downturn that may be inevitable. It won’t be able to afford the luxury of catering to Trumpster incompetence.
Edit: If downturn soon, US will enter it with far fewer standard monetary tools to cushion it than in previous post WWII period. Moscow Mitch will block any effective fiscal measures, though another rich person’s tax cut may be OK with him. Fed will have to go immediately to nonstandard measures, and we don’t know how well they’ll work as a substitute rather than a complement to standard tools.
jl
@AliceBlue: Some one needs to write a book on the history of US ambitions for Greenland. Probably will be something on the internet soon if Trump keeps obsessing over it.
Probably would be nice for Dems of Trump made that a big 2020 campaign issue.
mrmoshpotato
Heute Show has chimed in on this idiocy. Apparently the Inuit have 91 words for “blithering idiot.”
jl
@mrmoshpotato: I read someplace that the structure of Inuit language allows them to come up with 99 words for anything on the fly. The armory of Inuit insults must be interesting. Sadly Google translate doesn’t include Inuit, from what I see today.
MomSense
@The Dangerman:
I’ve already got the kayaks, paddles, and cold weather gear.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jager: Wow, TO’s really gone upscale.
(I grew up in Thousand Oaks.)
ETA: Guessing this probably over in the North Ranch area or even more likely south of Lake Sherwood.
WereBear
No. I’m not sure.
mrmoshpotato
Umm…
Ruckus
@Baud:
Six bedrooms? 29 mill? Someone get themselves in a bit of a jam and need a spare 25 mill?
Na, you could probably talk them down to 10-12 mill. Still a bit much but a lot closer to, well not reality…….
opiejeanne
@Jager: The one across the street from us is nice* and quite a bit cheaper at $10 million and 17,000 square feet on 7.5 acres. Honestly, the mind boggles. The annual property taxes alone are $47k. The guest house is bigger than our humble abode.
We figure a developer will buy it and lop off a couple of acres to build some McMansions, since the back of the property is on another street.
*Nice as in well-built and with some nice amenities but you really need a map to figure out where you are inside that thing. We’ve been inside exactly once, during the agent’s open house. The sellers were not particularly nice people, and they never invited us to one of their parties for the local Republican candidates.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Barbara: A photographer from the UK that I follow on YouTube posted some vids of his photo trip to Greenland, pretty impressive.
Jager
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I read somewhere the median house price in TO is 770. Ventura is getting really $$$ too,
mrmoshpotato
@jl: Not sure if it’s serious. On one hand, it’s a comedy show (literally translates to Daily Show). On the other hand, it’s a German comedy show, so maybe it’s very very serious comedy.
Geoboy
Hey Donald – you’ve already got an island – its much closer and warmer than Greenland – it has more population than 20 of the 50 states – and they pay taxes but don’t get to vote. It’s called Puerto Rico. Why don’t you make that a state?
mrmoshpotato
@opiejeanne:
? Mini Woodstock every August.
Barbara
@germy: When there are so many things I encounter during the course of a day over the last three years that make me want to say not much more than WTF?, this is one where it really fits. “The stock market is imploding so you have to vote for me” couldn’t possibly make sense anywhere, anytime.
different-church-lady
@germy: And Biden is the “gaffe machine”?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Gawd, I hope no one told Trump about the Trillion Dollar Coin.
WereBear
“The stock market is imploding so you have to vote for me” didn’t work for Herbert Hoover last century.
different-church-lady
@?BillinGlendaleCA: He’d probably try to spend it at a KFC.
MattF
@Barbara: “And I’ve had absolutely nothing to do with the implosion.” It’s a sort of Jenga tower of projection and blame-shifting.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jager:
Actually, I’m a bit surprised it’s not about 100k higher. Even the older houses in TO are good sized houses on good sized lots. We lived in a ranch style on a 1/2 acre.
Jager
@different-church-lady:
I saw a shot of him yesterday from his rally, the bastard is bigger than William Howard Taft, he is a huge fat bastard. He has to be way over 300 lbs. I’m an inch shorter than he is and weighed 237 about 5 years ago, I looked like a skinny little shit compared to trump and he supposedly weighs 243? (I’m reaching around to pat myself on the back, I lost 50 pounds and have kept it off.)
MisterForkbeard
@germy: “I broke your shit, so vote for me!” is not a particularly winning argument for anyone but the stupidest.
It’ll probably go over well with Republicans.
cain
@Jager:
Good for you! :)
Jeffro
@Elizabelle: * = always for this clown. Probably should just be the flashing red light emoji, or the drooling crazy face emoji, or both.
different-church-lady
@MisterForkbeard:
“Yes, but we’ll need a majority”
NotMax
@MisterForkbeard
The Bizarro world Pottery Barn rule: “I break it, you buy it.”
MattF
@germy: “I broke it, you buy it.”
Jeffro
@germy: NO way. He really said that?
“I broke it, and only I can fix it”. That has been a winning campaign message for centuries. LOL please proceed GOP…
different-church-lady
@Jeffro: 1975: You can’t have the sound of a flushing toilet on TV.
2019: Everyone’s carrying around a little digital picture of a pile of poo with eyes.
Another Scott
@Jager: Supposedly he wears a bunch of body armor out in public. He didn’t look quite so huge in that shot of him at some breakfast bar at MAL a few months back.
Dunno.
Cheers,
Scott.
NotMax
@Another Scott
Not what anyone would describe as svelte in that formal photo in Great Britain.
Jeffro
@different-church-lady: Oddly enough, that dovetails nicely with
1975: Jimmy Carter has to divest himself of his blessed peanut farm before he can be prez
2019: Emoluments R the bomb! Same with multigenerational tax fraud and using shell companies to pay off porn star mistresses!! Now then…how much for Greenland?
Boy oh boy the GOP’s going to be feeling the weight of the Orange Millstone right about this time next year…good times!
dexwood
Friday, please. Make sure to include recipes for meals found only in Greenland, I want to be ready for the expansion.
opiejeanne
@NotMax: I’m old enough that I remember the event.
Another Scott
@NotMax: But, but, the clothes make the man!! (from June).
(sigh)
For completeness, here’s the God-Emperor getting an omelet in February
Who knows…
Cheers,
Scott.
sherparick
@Elizabelle: Perfect. I for one salute our new Danish Overlords. I see the spirit of Ragnar Lothbrok lives on.
John Cole has posted on twitter about this guy and his rescue of a coyote puppy. Mr. Santore is a railroad engineer and amateur botanist when his is not rescuing young carnivores.
http://www.storytrender.com/98837/budding-botanist-rescues-abandoned-coyote-pup-and-treats-her-to-bathtime/
Jager
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Lots of 60s era neighborhoods with 3 bedroom ranches jammed together, 4 damn cars in the driveway, street full of cars. About 2 houses per block that are well cared for, they’re priced 400 to 500k. The areas with the bigger lots, 100k higher, remodeled, as in get rid of the avocado appliances, 50 to 100k more. No bargains in Ventura County.
We made an offer on a super townhouse in Wood Ranch, then the HOA stepped in and said, no German Shepherds, to quote our beloved old friend, EF Goldman, “Fuck Em. We’re back to looking for a single-family house again.
NotMax
@opiejeanne
Ditto. The Scouts held a major ceremony where all the 48 star flags we could get our grubby paws on were burned.
Josie
Friday sounds good.
mrmoshpotato
@opiejeanne: @NotMax: Oh. Hopefully Hawaii can retire in 5 years and take a ’round-the-world cruise.
Bill Arnold
@Jeffro:
Would you be amused to find out that something close to this is true?
(Pretty sure aliens don’t create reality TV shows. :-)
Catherine D.
I vote for recipes on Friday. It’s CSA season, and I’m always looking for new ways to add the veg in.
And may I rant slightly? I wish America recipes would give measurements in weights. I don’t want to guess how big the potatoes or cabbage or whatever are. Sure, I can make a good guess but don’t wanna when I’m surveying the fridge ?
NotMax
Recipes aren’t even necessarily a regular requirement. Just having a weekly dedicated food thread (again) would be the bee’s knees. The non-political threads have become oases.
opiejeanne
@mrmoshpotato: I live in Woodinville, a charming semi-rural area which is trying to turn our piece of the Sammamish River Valley into the Napa/Sonoma district of Washington. It’s all tasting rooms calling themselves wineries and qualifying for that title by growing a few rows of vines somewhere on the property. All of the winery grapes are grown in Eastern Washington.
Some of those various “wineries” have concerts all summer, and Red Hook, when it was open, had an outdoor movie night every weekend . We are up the hill and about 2 miles from the big winery, Chateau Ste. Michelle. One night a couple of summers ago, I was in the garden and I swore I could hear Ringo Starr singing in the distance. It was about 7pm and we still had more than two hours of daylight left. I climbed up on our lovely septic hump and boy, did it sound like Ringo. I looked up the concert list for that evening and it was Ringo. Amazing that his voice was recognizable at that distance. Anyway, we’ve already got our own more sedate Woodstock here.
jeffreyw
@Catherine D.:
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
cain
@Jager:
I’d probably not buy anything new and just to rentals, I’m fairly sure a looming housing crash is coming and anything you buy now is going down in value, IMHO.
opiejeanne
@NotMax: LOL!
Sab
@jl: Only person I ever met who spoke Inuit was an Israeli anthropologist.
trollhattan
@Jeffro:
It’s “The Truman Show” and we’re all living it.
mrmoshpotato
@opiejeanne: Glad to hear the septic hump is “lovely.”
Wait, that wasn’t the point.
NotMax
WTF?
Just noticed the label on the inside of the box of grapes recently purchased advertises in large print they are “crisp and exotic with sweet grape jam flavor.”
Catherine D.
@jeffreyw: The weight could be in parentheses and not even metric …
Just last week I was doing body scanning for a Canadian company (or in other words how under funded university departments try to survive), and their subject was from the US. I had to translate the measurements ?
ETA the translation was for the Yank.
nwerner
@NotMax: I own a 49 star flag from the brief window during when they were made.
jl
From my experience along Alaska west and north coast, the indigenous people up there are very welcoming people. They like to share their culture, at leas from my experience at Alaska ‘Eskimo’ Olympics. The natives wanted everyone to do the walrus dance at the end. Not sure Eskimo is politically correct anymore but that’s what they called it then.
So, If Trump is an exception, that tells you something.
NotMax
@opiejeanne
Any excuse to have a bonfire, don’tcha know.
:)
mrmoshpotato
@jeffreyw: @Catherine D.: No one tell her we all know how big the potatoes or cabbage or whatever are supposed to be.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jager: Sounds like the area just east of the high school(Cottage Hills) and just south of there which is a bit more rural(horses allowed). We never had the avocado appliances, that was more of a 70’s upgrade.
HRA
@NotMax:
LOL Ask John for a recipe.
Yarrow
I vote for Friday. Good for weekend planning.
@dexwood:
I’m all for this! Do you have any recipes for narwhal blubber?
Rand Careaga
Well, given his legendarily abbreviated attention span, I imagine the short-fingered vulgarian will shortly forget Greenland and fixate on another shiny object. But now and then he becomes obsessive, and hates being told no. I grant the scenario is unlikely, but suppose he determines that we must have the island, and orders the armed forces to seize it? Sure, the Pentagon would stall, but after a week of rage-tweeting his 27% will be shrieking that we want Greenland, we need Greenland, and goddamnit, we deserve Greenland? Do the Joint Chiefs disobey their C-in-C, do they resign on principle (to be replaced by sycophants eager to curry favor with Himself), or do they go ahead and invade, at which point, I dunno, Russia annexes Scandinavia?
Implausible, of course. But the last three years have been pretty fucking implausible…
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Haha not as fun as ‘chocolate-flavored coating’
?BillinGlendaleCA
@opiejeanne: That’s Sir Ringo.
mrmoshpotato
@nwerner: Square star field, or did they go nuts with the star layout?
NotMax
@HRA
High on the list of vile things have tasted – once and once only – was a grape-flavored cigar.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl:
I think I saw that in a film that came out in late 1967…”I am the eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the Walrus…”.
trollhattan
@nwerner:
My very, very young self appreciated the symmetry of the 49-star flag–so easy to draw. Hawaii really screwed up that one.
NB Alaska statehood was a Big Deal in the Puget Sound region because of their close historical ties. Seattle was the key port supporting the Alaska Gold Rush.
trollhattan
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
As it turned out, the Walrus was Paul.
Origuy
From the Wikipedia article on Greenlandic cuisine:
I was thinking of hákarl, which is fermented Greenland shark, but that’s Icelandic.
NotMax
@BillinGendaleCA
Mr. Cole may well have frantically launched into the walrus dance after downing those hot dogs the other day.
;)
raven
Did we used top do music thread on Friday here or at FDL?
Sandia Blanca
@scottinnj: Hilarious!
NotMax
@raven
BJ After Hours thread on Fridays was mostly music, IIRC.
NotMax
@NotMax
Spot where Little Boots would alternate between comments stalking Omnes and comments consisting of only a naked link.
JoyceH
What’s funny is that the original founders of Greenland named it that to encourage people to move there. Sort of like naming a patch of Florida swampland Ocean View Estates. So the guy who spent his career doing shady real estate deals fell for the oldest real estate scam in history, just like the rubes he used to scam. You’d think he of all people would know better.
nwerner
@mrmoshpotato: 7 x 7 field. it’s not in great condition and not all that rare from the little looking around i’ve done on ebay. my dad knew it would be an interesting historical artifact and saved it.
raven
@NotMax: I’m thinking Friday afternoons.
Quinerly
@NotMax: I miss a late night music thread. I had been a lurker for many, many years but those threads brought me out. Could we have a regular one again? Maybe Sunday night?
Quinerly
@raven: That’s a good idea, too.
chris
I have a comment but this is a peaceful family blog…
?BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan: Maybe, Lennon clams to be the Walrus in ‘God’.
Gravenstone
@mrmoshpotato: Once attended a regional scifi con, in the same hotel as some function involving Miami University. The looks on the college student’s faces tended towards the priceless. Shared an elevator with a bewildered young couple, some cos-players, and the con guest of honor Frederick Pohl. Sort of surreal.
NotMax
@BillinGlendaleCA
“I was the walrus! Paul wasn’t the walrus! I was just saying that to be nice but I was actually the walrus!”
– Magical Misery Tour, National Lampoon Radio Dinner album
(NSFW)
bemused
@chris:
Not one ounce of decency or humanity in the “family values” cult.
I’m so tired of getting sick to my stomach.
debbie
@rikyrah:
This is Stephen Moore–level stupid, but I can’t believe he came up with this all on his own.
NotMax
@NotMax
Sadly, noticed after posting that linked version cuts off the very last word of the Yoko Ono impersonator’s voice. The missing word is “over.”
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@chris: The the problem with that Culture War nonsense, Left Loonies are just as deadly as Right Wing Loonies and all the more argument about restricting assault rifles and machine guns ownership. . Suppose it might be even the Conservatives get guns are out of control in this country and “the left wing crises actors” is how they will justify regulation in their minds.
I also noticed my Orange County Conservative on life friend has been prattling on about the need for a Third War between fascism and socialism lately. So mental gymnastics of the conservative mind as they forced to do the right thing.
geg6
@Another Scott:
Take a good look at him on the golf course. Look at some photos from before he was elected. No body armor. Just Jabba the Hut level lack of physical fitness. Pretty bold of him to be fat shaming anyone at his size.
debbie
@germy:
…Said the wolf to the lamb.
If they can’t see he’s the one who’s costing them their 401s, then they deserve to lose everything.
germy
@NotMax: I remember buying that album in the ’70s. Lampoon’s “radio dinner”
The piano player and voice of “Yoko” was Melissa Manchester, according to the liner notes.
mrmoshpotato
@Gravenstone: Miami University’s event must’ve not been as dichotomic.
Ruckus
@JoyceH:
Are you new here?
I’ve never thought he would know better about anything. Because he never has. He only knows one thing, how to take a dollar and turn it gaudy, spray painted gold and worth pennies at best. He knows far less about anything not having to do with money. The only midas touch that trump has is how to not pay someone for spray painting his crap gold.
NotMax
@germy
Remember cuing it up the day it arrived at the radio station in order to clearly mark which tracks were not broadcast friendly. Happened to be a visiting buddy there too. There were some portions on first listen when we were both falling out of chairs with laughter.
germy
@NotMax: Tony Hendra was later accused of abuse by his daughter. I think he’s more or less retired now. I remember he co-wrote a book with George Carlin, and I think he had something to do with “The Moth” storytelling series.
debbie
@chris:
All of them, even “establishment” Fox News, are insisting the gunman was leftist, anti-Trump, and an Elizabeth Warren supporter. I heard it with my own ears, and I am still stunned.
Ruckus
@debbie:
You think Stephen Moore is stupider than trump?
trump hired him. And he’s so stupid Stephen’s “ideas” didn’t seem stupid to him.
All one has to do is think, is this the stupidest idea ever? Then it’s trump’s. It’s an even bet it might be someone else’s if the question is “Is this the most evil idea ever?” trump revels in stupid. He’s the poster child for stupid as a life choice.
Another Scott
@NotMax: :-)
Horse’s mouth:
:-)
Cheers,
Scott.
debbie
@Another Scott:
I’m not sure he does. He’d be sweating like a bitch at those rallies. They’re never air conditioned.
chris
On a brighter note, how about some good news about a parachute failure.
debbie
@Ruckus:
Not by much, but yes.
Ruckus
@geg6:
His mirrors are all from a carnival house of mirrors and make him look like something completely different, an actual human being. He doesn’t realize that humans don’t see the same thing he does.
debbie
@Another Scott:
Looking through a glass onion, the Walrus was Paul, ergo Paul wasn’t the good guy. I still think he takes credit for stuff that John did/wrote.
NotMax
@Another Scott
We also used to puzzle over (then) Cat Stevens’ “Yellow delanie would sleep well at night.”
:)
chris
@debbie: Well, sure. Everyone knows that Antifa kills upstanding American patriots every day and SPW’s minions cover it up.
Roger Moore
@Ruckus:
The distortion doesn’t come from his mirrors; it comes from the mind of the man looking in them.
Avery Greynold
Why did Putin have Trump want to buy Greenland? He figures that if Trump pisses off Norway and Greenland enough, they will tear up their treaty allowing the US to maintain an early warning radar site there.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@debbie: That’d be pretty difficult since they usually(Ringo excepted) sang lead on the stuff they each wrote. There was more collaboration early on, but the primary writer sang lead.
Ruckus
@debbie:
Well they are both delusionally stupid and a battle of wits would be too much for anyone to hear, thankfully a battle of wits between them would only last about a half second, so the exposure would be minimal. Now it a battle of both of them together against everyone else, that’s a level of stupid that we get to experience on a daily level, and it ain’t pretty in any world.
So I think it probably doesn’t matter which one of us is right, they are both stupider than a box of over cooked brussles sprouts.
Ruckus
@Roger Moore:
Once again I go for the laugh and Roger goes for the truth.
Origuy
I subscribe to a Twitter feed called @MapPornTweet, which sends links to random maps. One of today’s shows the locations of Norse settlements on Greenland. https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4718/39336730994_d2da8a793f_o.png
Greenland was apparently uninhabited when the Norse got there in 985, as previous migrations from North America had died out. The ancestors of today’s Inuit started arriving around 1200. The Norse were gone by 1500; the fate of the last settlers is still a mystery.
Miss Bianca
@opiejeanne: Is Red Hook no more, then? I haven’t seen them on the shelves lately, but then again, I’m not as much of a beer drinker as I used to be…
MoxieM
My totally off the hook Open Thread contribution is that the penny just dropped and in a different lifetime I knew the guy who Epstein’s GF/whatever, Ghislaine Maxwell, is supposed to have been shacked up with. Name of Scott Borgerson. Knew him courtesy of my ex. (Ex was NOT a pedo. No, not that.) Borgerson I would have said was mostly ambitious rough trade, seriously on the make, and I am not at all surprised that he’s gone from being the son of an Ozarks bounty hunter (think Winter’s Bone) to a 1%-er schmoozing with scumbags. Yeah. Huh, imagine. Name, dropped. Gonna go take a shower.
NotMax
@Origuy
How do you say “Croatoan” in Old Norse?
:)
RAVEN
@Ruckus: I saw your netflix reference, thx
John Revolta
@NotMax: @Another Scott: I love that Radio Dinner cut. The best part is that most all of the lyrics come from actual Lennon interviews,including this Playboy one.
chris
@Origuy: Thanks, that’s very cool. I did not know that there were so many Vikings in Greenland. But then I just have a hazy memory from a school history book showing a boatload of vikings led by Eric the Red. Leif the Lucky was in there somewhere too.
Reddit also has a map porn sub that can be fun.
tybee
@zhena gogolia: yup. friday.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: The natives were somewhat tolerant of snarkasses too.
trollhattan
@Miss Bianca:
Red Hook exists, saw it in a NorCal store recently. Don’t recall which flavor(s). Can’t say whether it’s still brewed in Seattle or the brand lives on as a label slapped on somebody else’s stuff. To their eternal credit they were among the very first of what we now call craft brewers, a wave that saw most of the pioneers die off. (Wicked Pete’s, anybody?)
Brachiator
Coming late to this fun thread because, you know, work and such.
It’s weird that cranky old orange guy president is so bored with being Commander in chief that he wants to fall back on being a real estate mogul again.
But he’s rusty. If he was up on his game, he would not offer to buy Greenland. He would propose a Section 1031 exchange, Puerto Rico for Greenland.
Dan B
@Catherine D.: Dud you say you were enjoying Derry Girls? Me too. The premise seems corny but they all seem to be fun to watch, like the cast is having a great time playing right up to the edge of stereotypes and caricature then darting past the shoals
Searcher
Honestly, I think the 48 star flag probably looked the best.
Maybe we could merge North Dakota and South Dakota?
Hmm, honestly there are a lot of good state mergers.
OK, here’s my proposal:
Merge North/South Dakota, Vermont/New Hampshire, Wyoming/Montana, Rhode Island/Connecticut, dropping us to 46. Admit DC and Puerto Rico, bringing us back to 48 for that nice star arrangement.
If Guam, the US Virgin Islands, or Greenland want in, we can merge West Virginia back into Virginia. It had a good run, but the Civil War has been over for over 150 years, it’s time for them to reunite. Maybe Delaware and Maryland, Nebraska and Kansas.
germy
Timelapse of the Milky Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zJ9FnQXmJI&feature=youtu.be
(Milky Way is stationary, earth moves)
opiejeanne
@mrmoshpotato: It’s covered in morning glory and it’s in bloom. Needs to be mowed.
debbie
@germy:
Beautiful, but I can’t imagine why there are 14 thumbs down.
germy
@debbie: Maybe flat earth people?
Brachiator
@Jeffro:
Oh hell, yes!
This is crazier than the Caine Mutiny, and a captain jibbering about strawberries.
germy
The medical examiner has said Epstein’s death was a suicide.
debbie
@germy:
Ah, right. Youtube.
opiejeanne
@Yarrow: my BIL and his lovely bride were living in Alaska and brought a number of delicacies to share with the guests at the wedding. I did not try the muktuk but everyone who did agreed that it was truly awful. An acquired taste, I’m sure.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@germy: Even before ready the description, I said “someone has a sky tracker”. It’s a different take on Milky Way timelapse.
catclub
I think there are lots of places that ‘if the US could buy that, we should’
Alaska comes to mind, but we already bought it. Gibraltar and Iceland both spring to mind. How about Diego Garcia?
The leaking that we are thinking about it, before a deal is done, shows the disfunction of his admin.
If it came out that Obama was discussing how we need more access to the Arctic and it would be nice to get Greenland, would anyone here be saying he is unhinged? But the point is that if Obama were discussing it, it would not come out until we had bought the island.
Another Scott
A puppy dreaming.
(via @SarahKSilverman)
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@opiejeanne: Sounds glorious. :)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@debbie: The one negative comment I saw reading though it related to picture quality. In defense of the photographer, it’s really hard to get the foreground as light as they did and keep the sky looking acceptable. You could separate the sky and foreground and process them separately and then put them back together, but they’d have to do that for each individual frame. They said it’s roughly 3 hours(180 minutes and the longest exposure would be 30 seconds), so 360 frames at a minimum.
Brachiator
@germy:
Trump killed him and the Trump administration is covering it up.
ETA. That’s my story for as long as the Trump administration, Fox News and Republican strategists keep joking about conspiracies.
debbie
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Everyone’s a critic! ;) Honestly, I wasn’t even looking at the technical stuff. It’s the frickin’ universe!
Brachiator
@catclub:
Yep.
I don’t see that Trump’s fixation involves discussion or rational motivation. Unless you want to argue that Trump is a brilliantly instinctive president.
Catherine D.
@Dan B: Yes, I love Derry Girls. My whole catlick immigrant background is laughing. (“Sister Michael, I don’t have a Protestant.”)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@debbie: I do Milky Way timelapses, though with a stationary camera, so I’ve had to worry about the details. I read the description, it was 1100 shots at 10 seconds with a 12 megapixel full frame Sony. That’s quite a bit of work to put all those shots into a timelapse.
Here’s one I shot earlier this month.
debbie
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I know it’s a lot of work, but that’s a whole lot more processing than I would have the patience for. Guess that’s why I never went into animation.
debbie
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
ETA: I like your animation!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@debbie: Actually it was sort of a freebie from a star trail shot. Thanks.
Jay
@catclub:
@Brachiator:
Nope, it’s still stupid.
There is nothing you get from buying Greenland that you can’t get from buying from Greenland.
mrmoshpotato
@Brachiator:
Instinctive at what? Sucking dictators’ asses?
Miss Bianca
@trollhattan: Was that Pete’s Wicked Ale? Yeah, drank some of that, back in the day. Some of the old first craft wave are still around, like Anchor Steam. I still enjoy a Liberty Ale, when I can find it.
Brachiator
@mrmoshpotato:
Ha! He certainly displays a natural talent for that.
Uncle Cosmo
@Gravenstone: For many years in the last millennium 1,500-2,000 SF fans would descend on the (Marriott) Hunt Valley Inn north of Baltimore every Easter weekend for Balticon.
The hostelry’s Cinnamon Tree restaurant was famous for a primo Easter brunch that attracted the cream of northern Baltimore County society, all dressed to the nines for church. These folks would reach the resto from the front entrance via a long lobby & then past the reception desk.
Meantime the trail from the guest rooms filled with convention-goers to the event rooms ran from right to left across the top of the lobby right in front of reception.
The clash of cultures at the reception desk at noonish Sunday was loud enough to ruin your hearing as fancy dresses, sober suits with ties & white shoes (& I’m talking about the kids) intersected with & backed away from the stream of what we now call “cosplayers” – who themselves reared back in shock – both groups thinking the same thing:
– though to tell the truth the brunchers probably replaced the JFC with a “dear God in heaven”…
Good memories. (ETA I met Fred Pohl at one Balticon, & knocked off a couple of bottles of Riesling with GoH Algis Budrys at another as we solved the problems of the multiverse…)
(FWIW the mgmt loved having the convention there – we filled the place at an otherwise moribund period &, per the staff, we were waaaaaay less problematical & property damaging than, e.g., the Shriners.)
Uncle Cosmo
@mrmoshpotato: See #188 supra for somewhat less threatening awkward. (Although TBH some of the “barbarian princesses”, dressed in a scarf & a sneeze & in those benighted days frequently a tad short on the attributes necessary to pull it off [so to speak], probably did nothing to sharpen the bruncher-parents’ appetites…)
Uncle Cosmo
@Jager:
Well hot damn. Taft was large enough to have his own atmosphere. His own weather. Women didn’t dance with him, they orbited.
mrmoshpotato
@Uncle Cosmo: Haha
Uncle Cosmo
@Jeffro: *ROTUS: *Rezident of the Untied States [sic]
Steeplejack
Let me just say that Greenland-related Smilla's Sense of Snow is both a good novel (Peter Høeg, 1992) and a good movie (1997, Julia Ormond, Gabriel Byrne). Trailer here.
columbusqueen
@Uncle Cosmo: But Taft wasn’t bad-looking & was a cheerful sort most of the time, unlike the current orange glob of lard. Why any woman would let him touch her (I’m looking at you, Melania) is beyond me.
Uncle Cosmo
Ded thred, I know, but did anyone catch Saturday’s Daily Noose front page? Here’s one source. A luuuuvly play on the iconic October 1975 front page (“FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD”).
Uncle Cosmo
@columbusqueen: True, not bad looking – for an oblate spheroid of ectoplasm. TR’s worst mistake.