Open Thread: Good News for My Favorite Candidate

Ed Kilgore, at NYMag“Surging in Polls, Elizabeth Warren Now Has a Path to the Nomination”:

… [T]he development that currently demands attention is the emergence of Senator Elizabeth Warren as something other than the candidate of policy wonks, dismissed as nonviable even among people who think she’d make an outstanding president. Her strong debate performances, a knack for organizing (based on her outstanding retail political skills), and the misfortunes affecting some of her rivals have combined to give her the clear path to the Democratic nomination that she really did not have in the early going.

Recent polls have clearly indicated that Warren is going places. The RealClearPolitics national polling averages show her as basically tied with Bernie Sanders for second place with Joe Biden’s lead narrowing. The two most recent national polls (from Quinnipiac and Economist–You Gov) place her seven and five points, respectively, ahead of Sanders. Just as important, she’s gaining strength in the early states. A new Monmouth poll from Iowa places her ten points ahead of Bernie, and just nine points behind Biden, in a state where everyone concedes she has the best organization. In New Hampshire polls, where Biden’s early lead was less formidable, she’s nipping at Sanders’s heels. Warren is in a similar position in Nevada (which holds its caucuses 11 days after the New Hampshire primary), where Politico reported yesterday that she has already built a “monster” of an organization.

Warren is also clearly making gains in her implicit rivalry with her friend and ally Bernie Sanders for the affections of self-consciously progressive voters, even as she maintains some potential as a party-unifying figure that Bernie may lack thanks to leftover bad memories of his 2016 campaign. In that recent national Quinnipiac survey, she trounced Sanders among “very liberal” voters and actually led him among those under the age of 35…

… Warren has made recent progress in both objective (head-to-head polls versus Trump) and subjective (the all-important perception that she could beat Trump) measurements of electability, which often improve as a candidate does well in the primaries. If she gets that one-on-one competition with Biden, the question may be whether Democratic voters want her to be president enough to take a bit of a risk. Warren probably has a plan to make that happen.


(Compare & contrast[trigger warning])

Also a good sign — attacks from the Least Transparent Candidate’s biggest stans:






198 replies
  1. 1
    Ruviana says:

    AL bigfoots Cole AND we finally get some new posts!

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    Baud says:

    Good. She works hard and she much better than Bernie in every legitimate way.

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    Jeffro says:

    I love her for for many good and great reasons, but one of the ‘bad’ reasons I love her is that Trumpublicans seem to think that one good “POCAHONTAS!” Or “SOSHULIST!!” And Warren will just keel over. Game, set, and match, libtards!

    Let them keep thinking that.

    I am also totally psyched at the prospect of Warren stocking her cabinet with no-nonsense problem solvers like her, and undoing all of the trumpov administration’s damage in a couple of years instead of a couple of terms. Wishful thinking, I know, but maybe not all that far off the mark either.

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    Baud says:

    @Jeffro:

    That’s actually my concern with her of she wins it all. That she won’t be able to fix everything quickly as people would like. All the Dems have that problem, but she promises a lot more.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    You guys really think she can beat Trump? I wish I did.

    I think Harris is a better bet, but she doesn’t seem to be gaining ground.

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    Baud says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    I don’t know who can beat Trump, or who can’t.

    The real primary starts after Labor Day. We’ll see what happens then.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Baud:

    A huge amount of the damage Trump has done has been done outside of Congress, just with his “executive authoritah.” So I have hopes that any good Democrat can do a lot of repair fairly quickly.

    I don’t give a damn about the nuances of their health-care policies, because that’s not going anywhere. But endangered species, the FBI, CIA, USDA, etc., etc., can be quickly improved.

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    Baud says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Oh, sure. But a lot of what they’re talking about is legislation. Even the administrative stuff will take a little while to get going. And you know the industry is going to challenge everything.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Wilmer pretending he’s always been at war with Eastasia the NRA is high comedy.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Baud: I don’t care how quickly she “fixes everything.” I just want a President who’s not a fucking moron.

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    Nicole says:

    What does Putin have on Matt Taibbi, I wonder?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Wilmer owes his entire national political career to Wayne Lapierre.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Nicole:

    Matt’s time in Russia doesn’t bear a lot of scrutiny.

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    Baud says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Most of us here are like that. But we’re not the majority.

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    @zhena gogolia: Harris is my first choice too. Warren’s debate performances haven’t won me over. She is promising the moon. She is too restrictionist on trade for my liking.

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    @Nicole: Kompromat regarding his proclivity for underage women?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Nicole: Um, I presume you know what Taibbi and Ames were like in Moscow in the 90’s.

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    guachi says:

    I’ve been tracking poll averages for several months. Using the last 10 national polls (which usually covers several weeks as there are a lot of polls), Warren has been going up steadily, bit by bit.

    This is in contrast to Harris who surged after the first debate and then has fallen back. Biden fell back to Earth and then stabilized. Sanders has been treating water. Buttigieg has fallen about one percent and then stabilized.

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    Mary G says:

    I’m not sold on Medicare for all, partly because I have Medicare and you still need a supplemental policy, because by no means does Medicare cover everything. It’s better than my last policy I got from. Also I have reservations with Kamala’s plan to phase out everything but Medicare Advantage plans, because they’re HMOs.

    Still, I’d be thrilled to have either as my president, and I have a happy about Warren’s rise and Wilmer”s fall

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    Nicole says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Oh, I know what he said about it. I wonder what Putin has about the parts he didn’t say.

    (Mind you, I don’t wonder in extensive detail as I don’t like the feeling of throwing up in my mouth)

  21. 21
    Kirk Spencer says:

    @zhena gogolia: Yes, I do think she can defeat Trump. Not least, I do not believe she will assume Trump will have shot his foot off and fail to push through to the end in the barely blue (and barely red) states during the last few weeks of the run.

    I don’t think Harris will do that either. I’m afraid Biden will do it trusting in comity and fair play, and I fear Sanders will do so because he has a bad habit of sniping instead of working at the end in previous elections (senate as well as presidential).

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    Wilmer pretending he’s always been at war with Eastasia the NRA is high comedy.

    I fail to see the comedy.

    I do see yet another reason for him to fuck off to the forest.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I just want a President who’s not a fucking moron.

    Or a Soviet shitpile mobster conman – oh, sorry, talking about the same bastard here.

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    Baud says:

    @Kirk Spencer:

    And hopefully she won’t have to face ratfucking progressives.

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    Starfish says:

    Bernie may lack thanks to leftover bad memories of his 2016 campaign.

    Or it could be the aggrieved Bernie voters who are still complaining about how unfair he is being treated in this here 2019. Some Democratic presidential candidates support the Down Ballot Pledge, and some do not.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    My local library has SIX editions of the latest Obama-Biden mystery/comedy novel – “Hope Rides Again” They’re ALL checked out with 138 signed up on the waiting list.

    Geez. It’s like Obama is beloved or something.

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    Brachiator says:

    My Favorite Candidate. Where’s the Kamala Harris news?

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    I’ve been a Harris supporter, but I’m gradually coming around to Warren. I like her plans, and I think she’s into economic justice in a way that can work. I’d be happy with either one really.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Baud: Narrator: She will.

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    Kirk Spencer says:

    @Baud: Oh, she will – either of my two favorite candidates will both during the nomination process and (in the event they’re the nominee) in the actual election run. It’s my hope and suspicion that not only does Warren have a plan for that but that if Harris should win Warren would share it and support.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Baud:

    That’s actually my concern with her of she wins it all. That she won’t be able to fix everything quickly as people would like. All the Dems have that problem, but she promises a lot more

    The absence of liars, incompetents and thieves will in itself be a part of the fix.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Starfish:

    Some Democratic presidential candidates support the Down Ballot Pledge, and some do not.

    Color me unshocked.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Mary G:
    Thing is that even with control of congress and the executive someone still needs to write the legislation and vote on it before the president can sign it. And right now there is so much that needs to be rebuilt after trump that I want a president who can lead, who can organize and who can walk and chew gum. So I think that KH would be better than EW at that. EW is a great idea person and probably no slouch at the leading thing but just personal opinion KH is better at that. I’d like to see EW stay in the senate and become senate leader, and get shit done there. That leaves who for the number 2 spot. My fav right now is still Stacy Abrams but I’d bet she has her eye on GA gov. For me right now that leaves Beto as the #2 in the WH. He earned it by just asking that one question of the press, WTF. But then we also need to turn TX blue.
    But the number one reality is that it’s still early, very early in the process. Lots can happen.

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @mrmoshpotato: Fuuuckin’ Wilmer. Li’l piece of shit.

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    BlueDWarrior says:

    Warren is 1a to Harris’s 1b for me. I would take both over Biden by some margin. Sanders hasn’t done anything to ally my fears that he’d be a bad executive despite him mouthing the correct words about our problems as a country writ large.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Ruckus:

    My fav right now is still Stacy Abrams but I’d bet she has her eye on GA gov.

    When does Kemp get to play election fuckery again in GA? 2022?

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    BlueDWarrior says:

    @mrmoshpotato: yeah, ’22. I’m not sure if Abrams should wait that long or maybe take a stab at GA Senate.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Ruckus:

    … I want a president who can lead, who can organize and who can walk and chew gum.

    That’s the biggest thing for me right now. I want someone who can help as many Democrats as possible to win in every election possible. President Harris-Warren-Biden will only succeed if s/he had a Congress that can pass sensible legislation. It really is a package deal these days.

    I’ve donated to Harris, Warren, and Castro. I probably will again soon. I like a lot about Warren, but I don’t know if she’s the best one who can help Team D run up the score yet or not. Similarly with anyone else. It’s still very early…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    chopper says:

    @Nicole:

    if you’ve read taibbi’s own disclosure regarding the shit he did when he was in russia, you’d know putin doesn’t even need to enter into it. tho i’m sure there’s worse out there.

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    Ruckus says:

    @BlueDWarrior:
    I think she’d be great at any of the top spots. Just from hearing her she seems to be really ready to help fix GA and gov is the way to do that. Senator would be nice to fill in the CV but I’d bet gov is her first choice. I also think she’d make a great president but we have that accounted for now….

  41. 41
    Kay says:

    Our decadent rich:

    A source close to Maxwell says she spoke glibly and confidently about getting girls to sexually service Epstein, saying this was simply what he wanted, and describing the way she’d drive around to spas and trailer parks in Florida to recruit them. She would claim she had a phone job for them, “and you’ll make lots of money, meet everyone, and I’ll change your life.” The source continues, “Ghislaine was in love with Jeffrey the way she was in love with her father. She always thought if she just did one more thing for him, to please him, he would marry her.”
    Maxwell had one other thing to tell this woman: “When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, ‘they’re nothing, these girls. They are trash.’”

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    tokyokie says:

    @Ruckus:

    For me right now that leaves Beto as the #2 in the WH. He earned it by just asking that one question of the press, WTF. But then we also need to turn TX blue.

    I think Julián Castro is the guy who, on the ballot as Warren’s running mate, is most likely to turn Texas blue. The key for Democrats in the state is improving turnout in the heavily Hispanic Valley. Beto improved the party’s standing in 2018, but Castro I think could build from the base Beto established.

    And then Beto could run against that mealy-mouthed stooge Cornyn.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @zhena gogolia: she doesn’t have to beat Trump. We do. That’s the same whoever the candidate is. When Democrats show up, Democrats win.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Kay:

    “Ghislaine was in love with Jeffrey the way she was in love with her father. She always thought if she just did one more thing for him, to please him, he would marry her.”

    This might also describe Ivanka and her father.

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    Annie says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Why do you think Harris can beat Trump but Warren can’t?

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    Kay says:

    Is it possible prosecutors have lost track of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged co-conspirator in his pedophile ring? For the past few weeks, rumors have circulated that she’s 400 pounds and living in Florida, or that she’s living the high life in London or the Continent, but according to the Washington Post, authorities are having a hard time locating her. Those who know her say that it’s possible she is as much of a Houdini as Epstein. Both of them liked having secrets, and the way those secrets kept people off balance. “Jeffrey always wanted to give the impression that he was an international man of mystery—‘I control everyone and everything, I collect people, I own people, I can damage people,’” says an ex-girlfriend.
    As part of Epstein’s original plea deal, negotiated with Alexander Acosta, the others implicated were also given immunity from prosecution, which is partly why victims like Virginia Roberts Giuffre pursued her and others in civil courts.

    They found her long enough to give her immunity and now it seems they’ve lost her again. The trick seems to be to commit really big crimes and make a career out of it.

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @Brachiator:

    This might also describe Ivanka and her father.

    Ehhhh …. Idunno. I’d guess that Daughter-Wife’s view of Poppa Rapist is as transactional as his own view of ….. everything. Like Father like Daughter-Wife. She’s in it for the Benjamins, and nothing else.

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    Kay says:

    @Brachiator:

    Yuck. One of the things I loathe the most about the Trumps is they brought us all into their gross family. Couldn’t we have spared that? Was it really necessary to force the whole family on us? Why don’t any of them have jobs?

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    catclub says:

    @Baud:

    Good. She works hard and she much better than Bernie in every legitimate way.

    and she was ‘around’ in 2016, as in, lots of folks were wishing she would run then. Nobody else but Biden has that status.

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    Jeffro says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: that first book was absolutely hysterical

    The author has Biden to a tee 🤣

    Looking forward to the sequel, too!

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    Dan B says:

    A good friend in political marketing thinks that Warren’s line, “I’ve got a Plan” is OK for the primary but not good fir the general. It needs to change to an aspirational message. I wonder what would fit Warren.

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    Jay says:

    They said this breed will turn on you. https://t.co/Vek3loKHh0— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) August 12, 2019

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    Mike in NC says:

    Returned from our British Isles and Norway cruise late last night. I have some 425 images on my camera. Hopefully I can find a few that don’t suck and pass them along to Alain to maybe post on BJ.

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    Sally says:

    I was very impressed by Warren in that bankruptcy exchange with Biden years ago, and disappointed in Harris’ performance in the Beer O’Kavanaugh confirmation. Harris seemed to be prepping for a prosecutor’s lead and whammy, but I thought she just fizzled out, and I was left wondering what went wrong. Just imho. Whereas Warren is sharp and quick like a rapier when she both asks and answers questions. I have with her a greater sense of urgency that stuff needs to be fixed, now. I wish there were two Warrens, as senate leader would also be a great fit for her. No nonsense. Neither Warren nor Harris should consider VP, this should be taken by someone who needs a profile, or who can’t go anywhere in their own state. There are several great candidates. We shall see.

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    Ruckus says:

    @tokyokie:
    We all have our favs. There are people currently running on the D side that I’d vote for – at gun point, because they seem to be running in the wrong party. There are a few who I’d hold my nose and vote for because they would be better than any rethuglican. But I’m betting that with the candidate list we have I’d be happy to vote for any of the top six or so, with the exception of Joe Biden. He does nothing for me, nothing. I can understand why his numbers haven’t dropped much yet, but I think they will as more people actually hear him and the other candidates.

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    Jay says:

    You do realize that you’re a United States Congressman not a tin foiler doing internet radio to an audience of five from his mother’s basement. Show some integrity and judgment. You follow in the footsteps of giants like Udall & Rhodes. Aim higher. “I have a tip..”. Just gross. https://t.co/VeqxtFewoK— Grant Woods (@GrantWoods) August 12, 2019

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    Kay says:

    @LanceThruster:

    but I’d also defer to Bernie’s judgment on that.

    Of course you would.

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    Kay says:

    Jeff Zeleny
    @jeffzeleny
    · 4h
    In NH today, @BernieSanders sounds a lot like @realDonaldTrump as he trashes Amazon: “I talk about that all of the time and then I wonder why the Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazon, doesn’t write particularly good articles about me I don’t know why.”

    Crowd size. Dear God. Remind you of anyone?

  59. 59
    Jay says:

    Sadly, I can’t do a side by side photo, but the little Nazi shit that killed his stepsister, then tried to attack a Mosque, went to court today.

    There’s only a few inches of his face and neck not covered with bruises, he’s missing a few teeth and part of one ear.

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    chris says:

    @Jay: I bit and damn! Gosar the dentist and reader of body language is into Qanon. No wonder his whole family despises him.

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    Kay says:

    The Washington Post should write some “good articles” about Bernie Sanders or the primary is rigged.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @LanceThruster:
    Who is this “Bernie” you speak of? Do you mean Wilmer?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Rose twitter swarmed on Dave Weigel yesterday for daring to suggest that by his visual estimate, Warren had a bigger crowd in Iowa than Himself. Wilmer even chimed in on his own twitter account about a plot crafted by Jeff Bezos.

    Jeff Zeleny @ jeffzelen
    In NH today, BernieSanders sounds a lot like realDonaldTrump as he trashes Amazon: “I talk about that all of the time and then I wonder why the Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazon, doesn’t write particularly good articles about me I don’t know why.”

    So we can add to his significant trumpy characteristics lying being paranoid and whiny about his crowd size

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    Kay says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    In NH today

    And into New Hampshire! The Bernie Sanders Iowa fair crowd size controversy rages on. We’re about a month out from “fake news!” – they’ll fire Dave Weigel like a dog.

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    Kattails says:

    Oh FFS didn’t someone make Rumpletrollskins disappear the other night? Could that happen again pleeze? Thx ever so much.

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @Kattails: Pie-ing isn’t perfect, but esp. since now it also pies all the responses, it’s pretty effective. I confess to having actually peeked at Rumpletrollskins’ comments, and even to having thought about responding, but then I remembered: “don’t feed the damn troll”.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Mike in NC: you get 5 with On the Road, so cull carefully!

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    SFAW says:

    @LanceThruster:

    Couldn’t disagree more. Bernie-lite on things that count, and likely to fold *when* it counts.

    Whatever you gotta tell yourself to convince yourself, I guess.

    The only area where Warren is “Bernie-lite” is in the shoutiness department. Oh, and political vaporware, I guess. And claiming how “rigged” the primaries are (although, in fairness, that was more the Bern-or-Bust-ers than The Great Man Himself).

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    Jay says:

    Roman Sabal wore our nation’s uniform for nearly a decade in the Marines and the Army Reserves before being deported. He should be allowed to re-enter the country for his citizenship hearing.https://t.co/zSxFR9HZ6N— Tammy Duckworth (@SenDuckworth) August 12, 2019

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    SFAW says:

    @Kattails: @Chetan Murthy:

    Rumpletrollskins

    We’ve had more than a couple the past few days, to whom in particular are you referring?

    [And please note that I used “whom,” because I can talk English real good. ]

    ETA: Although, in fairness, it would have been gooder English if I had wrote “are youse guys referring?” Sorry about that.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    Whoever the Democrats nominate, that will be the obviously wrong candidate who will doom the party.

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    Jay says:

    📢 #CrunchTime #NorthCarolina@McCreadyForNC Special Election, Sept 10th, is upon us in Union, Anson, Richmond, Scotland, and Robeson counties; and the southeast portion of Mecklenburg CoWe need canvassers & phone bankers!Early voting: Aug 21-Sept 6https://t.co/B1mJ4K6fx3— 🔨Morpheus Resists🔨 📱202.224.3121 (@WomanResistorNC) August 12, 2019

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    Jay says:

    @chris:

    Yup, they are drinking their own koolaide, tainted with antifreeze.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    OT – I don’t know how Seth Meyers stays so upbeat while doing A Closer Look segments about Dump.

    Especially since it’s basically Meyers going, “That’s a lie from deranged asshole. That’s a lie from deranged asshole. Also a lie from deranged asshole…”

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    jk says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    I think Harris is a better bet, but she doesn’t seem to be gaining ground.

    I prefer Warren to Harris, but it’s clear to me that both of them are head and shoulders above Joe Gaffe-O-Matic Biden.

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    Jay says:

    @SFAW:

    Pretty sure it’s the dudebro with the overcompensating nym.

    Don’t think he gets to “thrust much”.

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    SFAW says:

    @LanceThruster:

    She might have had more credibility if she endorsed Bernie last time,

    Or maybe less credibility, had she done so.

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    SFAW says:

    @Jay:
    That’s who I guessed, but would still like to get confirmation from them’s what called him that.

    ETA: And, as if on cue, the supposed object knob-slobbers the shoutiest-but-least-effective MoC. Outfuckingstanding

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    Jay says:

    Her name is #HeatherHeyer.She died protesting white supremacy and hate.I am still outraged and still paying attention.Rest In Power, HeatherMay 29, 1985 – August 12, 2017 pic.twitter.com/brnLwXDWIV— Trinity Resists 💚☮️🇺🇸✊🍑 (@TrinityResists) August 12, 2019

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    Mainmata says:

    @zhena gogolia: A lot of the land-based agency deregulation movements (USDA, NPA, BLM) have been hung up in the courts or go against Congressional Acts (laws). EPA has been hammered but eve there a lot of the deregulations have been hung up in the courts, even Obama’s New Power Plan. Yes, the Executive Orders can be reversed but the Democrats, if they win, will have a very busy 2021 reversing a lot of Trump’s damage.

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    Jay says:

    1. There is a Congressional election on September 10 in North Carolina and the Republican candidate, Dan Bishop, is an investor in Gab, a fringe social media network that caters to white supremacists and anti-Semites It gets worse.https://t.co/8jVAFWmpJp— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) August 7, 2019

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @LanceThruster:
    Wilmer’s endorsement interview at the New York Daily News in 2016 gives a damning account of how little he works to master policy issues beyond the level of the glib slogan. And as far as I know, he has done nothing since to improve himself in that regard.

    As I recall, this was also where he touted million-man marches to Mitch McConnell’s mindow window as an effective political tactic. Having read that interview, I can never see him as having the executive or political skill set the Presidency requires. For other reasons, which you will have come across in these threads, I have doubts about his personal character as well.

    Thiese reasons among others are why a majority of Democratic voters wanted Hillary to be President and not Wilmer, and why they prefer someone else now. Were I too American, I would not support him for President either.

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    Mainmata says:

    )@Jeffro: There are a lot of us ready and willing to serve in a Warren administration. But it can only be done with a trifecta win (HOR, Senate, President) and probably, later expanding the SCOTUS to counter the conservative majority (to save the republic).

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @SFAW:

    supposed object knob-slobbers

    Geez, Throbbing-Weak-Kneed-Spaghetti-Noodle just doesn’t know how to take a hint. I’m so glad for the pie filter.

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    SFAW says:

    @LanceThruster:

    It seems to be hurting her with a lot of the progressives she’d need to win.

    As I said: whatever you gotta tell yourself to convince yourself.

    And when she wins NN primaries, to your idol’s 1 or 2 victories (if that), I expect we’ll hear screams of “the DNC rigged it!” and “Donna Brazile gave Hitlary Fauxcahontas the debate questions in advance!!!!” coming from who-knows-where.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Kay: read this piece earlier. Must read imo.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @SFAW: Don’t engage. LT was here a few threads ago lying, spreading misinformation, and generally going psycho. Including getting into 9/11 Trutherism, wondering what REALLY happened to Bin Laden, and then going after the rest of us for being stupid and never learning from our mistakes.

    Also, 2016 was stolen from Bernie and literally the only way he can lose 2020 is if he’s cheated. By the establishment, naturally.

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    Jay says:

    It took 12 pages in the Washington Post to name all of the victims of mass shootings in this country. And that doesn’t include the hundreds of thousands who die from suicide, homicide, and acts of domestic violence. Every day we fail to act, more names are added to this list pic.twitter.com/k1pwA8EpWO— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) August 12, 2019

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @LanceThruster:
    Just more glib slogans. They are not a substitute for policy or for a plan.

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    @Steve in the ATL: No law about doing multiple ‘On the Road’ posts. He can break up his trip into parts.

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    SFAW says:

    @LanceThruster:

    “Her Turn” is not a winning campaign strategy.

    Good thing that’s not part of Warren’s campaign then, ain’t it?

    But “His Turn” sure-as-shit IS part of Bernie’s campaign Or are you under the impression that “We wuz robbed by the DNC in 2916!!!!!!” is functionally different from the “His Turn” argument?

  92. 92
    chris says:

    @Jay: Just one of those “accidents”
    that one has.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Jay: 💜

  94. 94
    SFAW says:

    @Chetan Murthy:

    My apologies for triggering you. Can’t promise I won’t do it again, but I’ll try to be more aware.

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    Jay says:

    Evan in Covington gave $5 to our campaign, so I called and said thank you! This campaign is fueled by grassroots donors like him. Join #TeamMcGrath: https://t.co/rTCIgIjRWf pic.twitter.com/hMNtDvjGc6— Amy McGrath (@AmyMcGrathKY) August 12, 2019

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Ending the power of super delegates at the Democratic Convention. Too radical.

    Christ, the old man-baby is still whining about superdelegates? and he thins anybody not already in his cult gives a fuck?

  97. 97
    SFAW says:

    @MisterForkbeard:

    LT was here a few threads ago lying, spreading misinformation, and generally going psycho. Including getting into 9/11 Trutherism, wondering what REALLY happened to Bin Laden, and then going after the rest of us for being stupid and never learning from our mistakes.

    I missed all that. Thanks for “putting me wise.”

  98. 98
    Chetan Murthy says:

    @SFAW:

    My apologies for triggering you.

    wait, what? I wasn’t referring to you, but rather, to He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named-Becuase-I-Don’t-Want-Him-To-Reply-To-Me *grin* You’re 100% good. 100%.

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    Mike in DC says:

    Bernie is so far faring much worse than he did in 2016, looking at raw numbers. He doesn’t seem to have expanded his base of support but instead has lost support to other candidates. I think there’s only 3 viable competitors for the nomination: Biden, Warren and Harris. And Biden is showing signs of vulnerability. I see Harris as slightly to the left of Obama, Biden as essentially Obama’s Third Term, but without any major new initiatives, and Warren as a full step to the left of Obama, about as far left as one could go and be viable in the general. I think it will come down to Warren and Harris, and a unity ticket between the two would be ideal, although if it doesn’t happen, I’m hoping for a ticket without a white dude on it(even though Mayor Pete debating Dense Pence would be a hoot).

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    Quinerly says:

    @Amir Khalid: 💙💚

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Amir Khalid: But Amir! The only problems we have in the US are income inequality and the public not knowing about space aliens!

    Oh, and a bunch of minority-affecting problems that an old white guy in Vermont doesn’t care about.

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    ola azul says:

    Holy shee-yit! ‘Bout to lose recep, but curio:

    Adult humpback — 40-footer — just headbutted my boat just off Vitskari Rocks. Surfaced just immediate offa stbd. bow, saw it thankfully (multitasking — tying gear, cleaning up f/g disaster site, readying ice —–> slush — had just enough time to put it in neutral, THUMP!

    (Sure glad fixt the sono-tube.)

    Weird. 4-71 Detroit Diesel roaring away atta safe n sane 1400 per, making its usual jack-hammer racket, dunno how a whale coulda misst it? (‘Less it were just having a bit a sport.)

    Whales is allus got the right-a-way on my boat, but fuuuck — hardly had time to react.

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Oh, and a bunch of minority-affecting problems that an old white guy in Vermont doesn’t care about.

    That’s so unfair! He cares! Why, he wants to solve the problem with concentration camps at the border! Why won’t you give him credit for these excellent ideas? You’re so unfair!

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    Yup. And all save a couple requiring Congressional action. 28 years in Congress and he has virtually no record of creating, promoting or fighting for legislation that would get even a tenth of the way to anything espoused. Sheer sloganeering.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @ola azul: Your boat got humped.

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    SFAW says:

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Yeah, but you blockquoted me, so I was responding to that. I didn’t take it personally, by the way — just trying to acknowledge your concern.

    And, as the saying goes: “If you can fake sincerity, you’ve got it made.”

  107. 107
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: But NotMax! The public is going to make his ideas a reality if he’s elected President!

  108. 108
    Amir Khalid says:

    @LanceThruster:

    Bernie’s FDR 2.0

    Hee hee. You funny, mister.

  109. 109
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @LanceThruster:

    But yeah… Bernie not the real Dem

    CORRECT!

    Bernie’s FDR 2.0

    BWHAHAHAHA St. Bernie having to deal with a depression is frightening.

  110. 110
    Jay says:

    At our Town Hall in Fairmont, a substitute teacher said she made $14 an hour when she started more than a decade ago, and now she makes $10. We must stop State Senator Dan Bishop’s war on our public schools. #nc09 pic.twitter.com/ImepOIqJ5F— Dan McCready (@McCreadyForNC) August 12, 2019

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @LanceThruster:

    Seriously? The space aliens thing?

    That’s pretty weak sauce even for in here.

    Ok fine. Back to one-trick Bernie then.

    “The only problem we have in this country is income inequality!”

  112. 112
    SFAW says:

    @NotMax:

    28 years in Congress and he has virtually no record of creating, promoting or fighting for legislation that would get even a tenth of the way to anything espoused. Sheer sloganeering.

    You’re a bleedin’ LIAR! I have been told by a completely unbiased, objective, and highly respected source that Bernie is “FDR 2.0.” And Bernie’s civil rights record is beyond compare! Same for his gun control legislation. And I would BET YOU SERIOUS AMOUNTS OF REALLY GOOD BEER that he got one (more or less) Post Office re-named!!! And did I mention that Bernie pushed through BOTH Social Security AND Medicare, all by Himself?

    etc. etc.

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    ola azul says:

    @mrmoshpotato:

    And backed!

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    NotMax says:

    @Lance Thruster

    You really ought to take your act on the stage.

    The next one leaves in 20 minutes.

    ;)

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    chopper says:

    @LanceThruster:

    Bernie’s FDR 2.0

    oh jesus, drop it, doug.

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    SFAW says:

    @mrmoshpotato:

    St. Bernie having to deal with a depression is frightening.

    Not to worry — I’m sure Jane will be able to get him a shitload of Prozac and/or other psychoactives to help him deal with it.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @ola azul: I hope it calls the captain.

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    SFAW says:

    @chopper:

    oh jesus, drop it, doug.

    The scales, fallen they have from mine eyes.

  119. 119
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @SFAW: He’ll vigorously wag his finger at the financial misery.

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    Jay says:

    @ola azul:

    Whales in the Salish Sea are overwhelmed by noise,

    Like trying to think in a Walmart, that’s pulled all the video game posters, near the back to school gun isle, while they pump out Kid Rock dreck at 11 on the muisack, while keeping an eye on the “Open Carry” guy, trying to decide if he’s a bad guy with a gun and 100 round magazines, or a good guy with a gun and 100 round magazines.

    Can’t find the toilet paper everywhere.

  121. 121
    ola azul says:

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Thinkin it already did.

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    SFAW says:

    @mrmoshpotato:

    at the financial misery.

    Misery? Ozark is usually here in the morning. Although I don’t remember in which part of Misery he lives. Is Financial near Jeff City?

  123. 123
    different-church-lady says:

    @LanceThruster:

    Bernie’s FDR 2.0

    You mean he’s been dead for 74 years?

  124. 124
    different-church-lady says:

    Warren is just like Bernie, except for the “Who gives a fuck how any of it actually gets done?” component.

  125. 125
    SFAW says:

    @different-church-lady:

    You mean he’s been dead for 74 years?

    Don’t be silly! What he meant was that Bernie has had almost as many legislative accomplishments as FDR had when he was a member of the U.S. Congress.

  126. 126
    ola azul says:

    @Jay:

    Ain’t even the first time. Was anchored — anchored! — in Table Bay (north of Decision Pass on east side a Chatham Strait) back in aught-eight when had my old boat; considerably smaller, classic wood fishboat, 36 feet, 12 tons. Was kayaking back to boat and I sees a whale surface within 30 feet a me. Get back to boat, ask my dear friend Ron did he see the whale?

    “See it!” sez he, “damn thing mugged me!” Whale rose from depth and struck keel, lifting boat up and tossing it off to one side. Ron claims he wasn’t sleeping at the time, which is dubious, but whatever. Ron goes outside the wheelhouse and there’s the whale on surface, admiring its handiwork.

    Ron claims it winked at him as it sounded, never to be seen again.

  127. 127
    different-church-lady says:

    @SFAW: Did you know that FDR marched with MLK?

  128. 128
    SFAW says:

    @different-church-lady:

    Did you know that FDR marched with MLK?

    Bullshit. Now, if you said “he rolled with MLK Jr,” I would have totally believed it

  129. 129
    Quinerly says:

    @SFAW: and marched with MLK.
    Actually, I heard Bernie was marching before MLK… something like… he taught MLK how to march.

  130. 130
    Sally says:

    @Mike in DC: Although Beto saying “WTF bro?” would be good too.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @different-church-lady: Also, Warren doesn’t take credit for ideas that the party has been kicking around for the past 20-30 years.

    I’m always particularly tickled by the insinuation that 2016 Bernie and Medicare for All was the first time this had ever been tried. Especially when Hillary was roundly attacked repeatedly in the 90s for trying to get single-payer healthcare. Meanwhile, polling has indicated that M4A is the policy proposal that many people are nervous about in 2020.

  133. 133
    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @LanceThruster:

    They put their thumb on the scale again, they can kiss a lot of votes goodbye.

    How? By letting black people in the South vote?

  134. 134
    SFAW says:

    @Quinerly:

    Actually, I heard Bernie was marching before MLK… something like… he taught MLK how to march.

    And I heard that MLK heard Bernie talking about income inequality, and realized how much more important THAT was, compared to the minor stuff he was doing, that he co-opted Bernie’s message, just like Senator Professor Warren.

    NB: Trying to figure how I can work the Time Cube into all this. Because why the fuck not, right?

  135. 135
    different-church-lady says:

    Emancepating the slaves was a total Bernie idea.

  136. 136
    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Quinerly:
    Actually, Bernie traveled back in time to teach Ghandi about passive non-violent resistance, neo-liberal shill. That’s you taught. /s

  137. 137
    opiejeanne says:

    Has anyone heard from HinTenn? There was talk of a meetup in Seattle when they’re back in town, which would be this week if memory serves.

  138. 138
    opiejeanne says:

    @different-church-lady: He looks old enough to have done that.

  139. 139
    MisterForkbeard says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: Look, I’m reliably informed by someone (we’ll just call him SpearHumper. That’s a good code name) that Hillary did such dastardly things during the Democratic debates like… running out the clock on some answers. And not demanding a bajillion debates. Clearly this is where the DNC completely rigged the election.

    Or maybe it was when someone told the Hillary campaign that the Flint debate would have a question about Flint water quality. There’s no way Bernie ever had a chance after that.

  140. 140
    Jay says:

    @ola azul:

    More than a few years ago, Whale Researchers said the USN tests ofvtheir new sonar, would create deaf whales,

    Glad to see them fighting back.

    A few decades ago, Mark and and I were in a 12 foot skiff, with a 9.9 Merc, mooching for coho, off Tawassen,

    Mark was cutting bait, and every few minutes, there was a “whoosh”, as an Orca, ( SP 36) spyhopped to see what he was doing.

    When Mark saw what was looking over his shoulder, he freaked.

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    SFAW says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    How? By letting black people in the South vote?

    It’s not so much that, as weighting their votes about 67 percent more than they should be. That extra two-thirds helped Hitlary.

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    NotMax says:

    @SFAW

    We shall reverentially gape in astonishment as he wields the might of the Infinity Gauntlet Truss.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @opiejeanne:
    That’s because he is. Bernie was cheated by the GOP for the 1860 nom. They coronated that neoliberal Lincoln! Bernie woulda won the Civil War and ended slavery in 1861 by wagging his finger at Jefferson Davis

  144. 144
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @SFAW: Closer to Kansas City. Pretty miserable – Oh! Royals slam!

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    SFAW says:

    @NotMax:

    We shall reverentially gape in astonishment as he wields the might of the Infinity Gauntlet Truss.

    Well, he and his idolaters consider him inevitable.

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    Jay says:

    @Quinerly:

    I heard that Wilmer travelled back in time and killed Hitler.

    Meanwhile, Wussolinni is saying that Hitler doesn’t get enough credit for killing Hitler, but he’s getting more and more recognized every day.

  148. 148
    SFAW says:

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Closer to Kansas City.

    Right. Can’t fool me — KC is in Kansas, silly!

    Next you’ll be trying to tell me Portland is on the West Coast, instead of the capital of Maine.

  149. 149
    different-church-lady says:

    @SFAW: Idiot: Ogunquit is the capital of Maine.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @MisterForkbeard:
    Hah! SpearHumper!

    What possessed Lance to show his face here again after 3 years?

  151. 151
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @SFAW: Isn’t Augusta the capital of Maine? And is Susan Collins disappointed about that?

  152. 152
    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @SFAW:
    Your joke was a lot more subtle than mine. You win the internets tonight : )

  153. 153
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: Lost a bet? (I seriously haven’t encountered this Bernie Bro before.)

  154. 154
    Jay says:

    Hong Kong Police are now dressing like protesters, infiltrating the protests, starting violence, and then beating up the protesters. Horrendous. https://t.co/SPDemJBTVf— Josh Rogin (@joshrogin) August 12, 2019

  155. 155
    opiejeanne says:

    @MisterForkbeard: Spearhumper! LOL! He seems to be blabbering about pie an awful lot recently, on every thread he pops. up in.

    I have a whole bunch of apples that need to get et. I think tomorrow may be a big pie-baking day, one for us and one for the neighbors.

  156. 156
    opiejeanne says:

    @Jay: Swell.

  157. 157
    hervevillechaizelounge says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Steve in the ATL are you still online? Am still waiting for your email with the Durham murder scuttlebutt; please send it my screen name @ the gmail whenever you have time. Thanks in advance!

  158. 158
    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Maybe lol. I just remember the nym. It’s pretty memorable. I actually like it. It’s got a very Buck Rogers-esque sci-fi quality to it. Too bad an asshole is using it

  159. 159

    @SFAW:

    you’ll be trying to tell me Portland is on the West Coast

    Never, it’s not on the coast, but inland.

    BTW, I’m pretty sure that OH lives in the southeastern part of Misery.

  160. 160

    @opiejeanne: I”m confused now, you’re talking about pie and I’d never pie you.

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    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    What possessed Lance to show his face here again after 3 years?

    Election coming up and isn’t Wilmer so dreamy?

  162. 162
    Jay says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    He could have chosen a less mysogenist and over compensating nym like @Tiny P€nus,

    Instead he went full Incell.

    Quelle Suprise! So GamerGate.

  163. 163
    Cacti says:

    Warren as the nominee = 4 more years of Trump.

  164. 164
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @mrmoshpotato: He has been around for years. I, however, do not remember him getting into the bath salts until 2016. As he has told us, he told us so before the 2016 election, and then afterward he came by for a while to do a victory lap while chanting, “I told that I was telling you that I told you so.” Yes, it is true, aside from being like this, he is very back at coming up with chants.

  165. 165
    eclare says:

    @schrodingers_cat: I agree with you, she wants more tariffs than Trump.

  166. 166
    Jay says:

    @Cacti:

    Warren as nominee, not 4 more years of Dolt45

  167. 167
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    Election coming up and isn’t Wilmer so dreamy?

    Bill, Wilmer is going to give everyone free college and free healthcare and unicorn butlers that fart rainbows on demand and puppies (that’ll be looked after by the unicorn butlers)!

  168. 168
    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Cacti:
    Can we please not do this?

  169. 169
    Cacti says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    Tell the truth?

    I know that isn’t always popular around here, but it is what it is.

  170. 170
    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    Of course, why didn’t I think of that? I’m sure Lance daydreams about the Mediocrity From Vermont all the time. He tells us so all the time

  171. 171
    Jay says:

    @eclare:

    Protectionism and stealing IP was how the Western Economies were built.

  172. 172

    @mrmoshpotato: The unicorn butler sounds really cool, hope it cleans up it’s own shit.

  173. 173
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @eclare: Tariffs are a tool. They can be used well or poorly.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Cacti:
    It’s fine to not like Warren and prefer your own candidate. It’s fine to voice your misgivings. But, with all due respect, don’t be a glib jackass about it. Saying “Warren as nominee= 4 more years of Trump” is a stupid criticism. There’s no substance at all. You come across as a troll.

    I mean I could do the same thing with Biden and I’d have more support! He’s ran numerous past presidential campaigns and failed each time. He can’t help but say something stupid every 10 seconds and he’s far too old. I worry about him. I don’t think Biden’s well and I don’t think he’s up to this.

    I have the upmost respect for Biden as Obama’s VP. He was a great running mate. But his time to be president has long passed and he was probably never going to be anyway.

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    gwangung says:

    @LanceThruster: Projecting like an IMAX.

    So amusing when you can punch their buttons.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Spoiler alert! Wilmer doesn’t have a plan for unicorn shit removal.

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    Jay says:

    @LanceThruster:

    Gamergater douchebro confirmed.

    LMFAO.

  178. 178
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: What is funny to me is that some commenters are being such assholes that I am developing an urge to hope for a Biden-Gillibrand ticket.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Pretty revealing that the people who whined endlessly about “coronations” in 2016 were only upset that their guy wasn’t the one getting the crown.

  181. 181
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Well, technically, everyone has a plan – except Wilmer.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Jay:
    Apparently, he’s had this nym for some time. See his reply at 181

    @LanceThruster:

    Look. Coming back and going “Haha, I told you so!” and talking some real silly nonsense in the first place is not going to win you friends.

    I am sorry about your cat Keba and I hope your friend with cancer is pain-free and doing fine. Cancer sucks

  183. 183
    Cacti says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷:

    Warren’s promise to end private health insurance is supported by 41% of Americans, and will be hung around her neck like an anchor.

    Her DNA test debacle shows that Trump can play her like a fiddle.

    Wonky Massachusetts politicians have a well documented history of not being beloved by the rest of the country in Presidential elections.

    So the point remains.

    Say whatever you want about Biden or any other candidate. I’m not feeling great about any of their chances at the moment. There are two of the top tier though that if nominated, I see as definite losers in the general: Warren and Sanders.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @hervevillechaizelounge: I haven’t forgotten you—kept getting busy. Will get to you soon.

    @mrmoshpotato: Augusta is the capital of Golf

    Steve in Shithole, TX. Yeehaw!

  185. 185
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Augusta is the capital of Golf

    I bet St. Andrews would fight you on that one.

  186. 186
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: well, the US capital. I have no interest in getting into a fight with Scotsmen!

  187. 187
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Augusta is the capital of Golf

    Oh go lose your balls in the woods! :)

  188. 188
    Cacti says:

    @LanceThruster:

    Some of you are as bad as the “howler monkeys” I’ve encountered on anti-evolution boards.

    Self-awareness really isn’t your strong suit, is it?

  189. 189
    gwangung says:

    @LanceThruster: Trying to rack up the persecution points? Snicker. Can’t get nailed to the cross by yourself, can you?

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    opiejeanne says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: I wasn’t talking about you, dearie. I was talking about the pie-eating troll.

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    NobodySpecial says:

    Oh, gods, this guy again.

    The Senator from Vermont has shown us exactly what he’s about since Obama’s second term. He wants to be the figurehead of a party without joining the party, he wants to bitch because he got outvoted worse than Trump, and will be again, and after he is roundly spanked at the ballot box, he and his followers will, like Achilles, go sulk in their tent instead of fighting the good fight. Hard pass.

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    Citizen Alan says:

    @LanceThruster:

    Literally every post you make causes me to hate Bernie Fucking Sanders even more.

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    SFAW says:

    @different-church-lady:

    Idiot: Ogunquit is the capital of Maine.

    Moron! Ogunquit was the capital in pre-Colonial times. The first capital, post-statehood, was actually T3 R9, but no one could figure out where the hell that was, so they moved it to where they knew all those microbreweries were going to be located.

  194. 194
    SFAW says:

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Isn’t Augusta the capital of Maine?

    Why would some place in GA be Maine’s capital? I’m confused.

    And is Susan Collins disappointed about that?

    Much easier to tabulate those things about which she’s NOT disappointed.

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    SFAW says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I have no interest in getting into a fight with Scotsmen!

    No true Scotsman would deign to discuss the “point.”

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    SFAW says:

    @LanceThruster:

    It’s why all your mockery and abuse doesn’t phase me.

    And yet, here you are, attempting to justify your silliness, mixed with a generous helping of “stop being mean to me!”

    And it’s “faze,” by the way. [I hope that correction doesn’t hurt your feelings too much.]

  197. 197
    SFAW says:

    @NobodySpecial:

    he and his followers will, like Achilles, go sulk in their tent instead of fighting the good fight.

    At least Achilles actually accomplished something, outside of getting a Post Office named for Ethan Allen (or some such).. And, frankly, although his pre-Patroklos’s-death behavior might be considered sulking, it might also be considered as a not-illegitimate response to Agamemnon’s extreme dickishness. [Not an Iliad scholar, so take my comment with a grain of pink Himalayan salt.]

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    SFAW says:

    @Citizen Alan:

    Literally every post you make causes me to hate Bernie Fucking Sanders even more.

    So I guess you’re saying he DOES add value.

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