Shameless & Stupid Open Thread: Hadn’t Dayton Suffered Enough?

155 replies
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    jl says:

    Some kerfluffle is going on about whether WH press office is lying its ass off about whether Brown and other Ohio Democrats insulted Trump during the visit, or not?

    Truly pathological

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    What the F is with the thumbs up in the pics, you are meeting with f**king trauma victims you f**king psychopath. How is this even considered normal?

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    Jay says:

    And for contrast, a great American, #greenshirtguy

    Scene inside a Tucson City Council Meeting. Officials voted to put a "Sanctuary City" measure on the November ballot— Nick VinZant (@NickVinZant) August 7, 2019

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    TenguPhule says:


    What the F is with the thumbs up in the pics, you are meeting with f**king trauma victims you f**king psychopath.

    He approved of their trauma.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    If you are looking for normal, you need to look one country north.

    Normal doesn’t live here anymore.

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    randy khan says:

    He apparently doesn’t even know that Brown isn’t running for President.

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    Brachiator says:


    What the F is with the thumbs up in the pics, you are meeting with f**king trauma victims you f**king psychopath. How is this even considered normal?

    There is normal, abnormal and Trump.

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    TenguPhule says:

    The Vegetarians Who Turned Into Butchers

    How several former vegans and vegetarians across the country came to see meat as their calling.

    Great moments in headlines at the FTFNYT.

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    SFAW says:

    I am not a believer in the whole End Times thing, but if the Treasonous-Racist-Lying-Stupid-Motherfucker-in-Chief is ever NOT an asshole for a period longer than eight hours, I will know that they are upon us.

    ETA: While he’s awake, that is. Sleep time don’t count.

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    TenguPhule says:

    The House judiciary committee has asked a federal judge to force testimony from Don McGahn, Trump’s former White House counsel.

    McGahn, who featured prominently in the portion of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on whether the president obstructed justice, was subpoenaed by the panel back in April. But the White House has blocked his testimony, claiming he had “absolute” immunity.

    This marks the first lawsuit House Democrats have filed to force a witness’ testimony since regaining control of the chamber. House speaker Nancy Pelosi notified her caucus about the imminent lawsuit in a “Dear Colleague” letter earlier today.

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    Jay says:

    So now ICE is pepper spraying immigrants for protesting against inhumane conditions in concentration camps. When the approach is “we cannot have an uprising period”, where do you think that leads? #NeverAgainIsNow— ✡️ Never Again Action ✡️ (@NeverAgainActn) August 7, 2019

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    randy khan says:


    It is in the food section, and the article actually is pretty interesting. They pretty much all say they became vegetarians because of concerns about the industrial meat industry, and that they decided a better way to address it was to become an ethical butcher. (I read it in the dead tree edition at lunch.)

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    rikyrah says:

    Biden gave a speech. anyone know what it was about?🤔

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    different-church-lady says:

    Ah, yes: happy, smilling assault-weapon victims.

    The man is a sociopath, surrounded by sociopaths.

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    rikyrah says:

    DEMONS 😠😠 😠

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    rikyrah says:

    I hear you 😠😠😠

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    Ugggg. IT’s here.

    85% of the people in El Paso don’t want the man that brought this death on them to come play Two-faced Consoler in Chief. But then Donald has a history of shoving his body into unwanted places so…

    It’s now up to106 degrees in some parts of El Paso. Here’s hoping the Presidential limo’s AC tanks while he’s weaving his way around town trying to avoid the protesters.

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    Ella in New Mexico says:


    I am not a believer in the whole End Times thing, but if the Treasonous-Racist-Lying-Stupid-Motherfucker-in-Chief is ever NOT an asshole for a period longer than eight hours, I will know that they are upon us.

    That or that were about get full disclosure from the government that the aliens are real and they’re here.

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    Jay says:

    DANGER: The military is getting more and more involved in caging our undocumented neighbors. First it was soldiers on duty at CBP concentration camps, now immigrants are being rounded up at their job and sent by the busload to an Air National Guard base?#NeverAgainIsNow— ✡️ Never Again Action ✡️ (@NeverAgainActn) August 7, 2019

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Joe Biden: “This president has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation. His low-energy, vacant-eyed mouthing of the words written for him condemning white supremacists this week, I don’t believe fooled anyone.”
    Via CBS

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    Jay says:

    nearly 700 plant workers were rounded up by ICE in mississippi today. hundreds of kids came home from their second day of the school year not knowing if their parents had been taken.— molly 🐶 (@socialistdogmom) August 7, 2019

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    smintheus says:

    Shorter Trump: I don’t care, do u?

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    different-church-lady says:

    @zhena gogolia: Joe, Joe, Joe…. they fooled plenty of people still.

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    Jay says:

    1. There is a Congressional election on September 10 in North Carolina and the Republican candidate, Dan Bishop, is an investor in Gab, a fringe social media network that caters to white supremacists and anti-Semites It gets worse.— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) August 7, 2019

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    Jay says:

    A U.S. State Department official oversaw the Washington D.C.-area chapter of a white nationalist organization, @Hatewatch has determined.Read my investigation here:— Michael Edison Hayden (@MichaelEHayden) August 7, 2019

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @zhena gogolia: Oof! Moar please.

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    kindness says:

    Trump sucks. But Trump really sucks at this part of the job.

    Trump never realized a President actually is supposed to work.

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    JPL says:

    @rikyrah: From Kyle Griffin.. Joe Biden: “This president has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation. His low-energy, vacant-eyed mouthing of the words written for him condemning white supremacists this week, I don’t believe fooled anyone.”
    Via CBS

    OR what Zhena said

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @different-church-lady: Nah, everyone on board with him now isn’t fooled, isn’t compromised, but COMPLICIT.

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    JGabriel says:


    … if the Treasonous-Racist-Lying-Stupid-Motherfucker-in-Chief is ever NOT an asshole for a period longer than eight hours, I will know that they are upon us.

    ETA: While he’s awake, that is. Sleep time don’t count.

    It wouldn’t matter even if Sleep Time did count. Trump is an asshole even while sleeping – his assholery never rests.

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    The Dangerman says:

    It wasn’t about a photo-op for the President and the First Lady.

    Translation, one or more of the patients/doctors/nurses/staff told him to get bent.

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    Jay says:

    Here it is.This site is owned/run by a leading GOP digital operative. He runs systems on servers physically located in Russia, and advertised it.Mitch McConnell is a client. Ben Carson is a client. Gingrich is a client. And many more.Tell the world.@fbi @fbi @fbi— Chris Vickery (@VickerySec) August 5, 2019

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    Jay says:

    It's time Fox News fires Tucker Carlson.His comments put our lives in danger and have already led to murders.These are the advertisers you need to call/tag to demand they drop Fox until Tucker Carlson is fired:— RAICES (@RAICESTEXAS) August 7, 2019

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    JPL says:

    @The Dangerman: Trump team made a video thanking Dayton. I expect it to be used for fundraising.

    FYI It’s disgusting

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    Suzanne says:

    I can’t take any more Trump today, so I am instead going to stick with #GreenShirtGuy and 30-50 #FeralHogs. I need to smile.

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    Jay says:

    The owner of @Equinox and @soulcycle, Stephen Ross, is hosting a private fundraiser for Donald Trump in The Hamptons. The cost to attend is $250,000, which includes lunch and a photo with the White-Supremacist-in-Chief. You better cancel those gym memberships now. #BoycottEquinox— Ryan Knight 🗽 (@ProudResister) August 7, 2019

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    Oh, so Scavino says the trip was “Not about a photo op for Trump”?

    No, just about making a fricking campaign video. No wonder “Trump was treated like a rock star”–they were all hand screened for roles in his MAGAT 2020 commercial.

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    trollhattan says:

    @zhena gogolia:
    Good for Joe–tell it like it is. Tell it loud, tell it often.

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    bemused says:


    I don’t gamble but I’d put money on they were lying liars.

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    debbie says:

    I haven’t seen any reporting about what it is that Brown and Whaley said that set Trump off, unless he’s referring to statements from the weekend?

    Anyway, I think he’s just digging his grave deeper every time he lies about his racism. He may be abetted by Fox and RWNJs, but they are far from the majority of voters. He is well on his way to an early exit.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    It is El Paso that bears the most terrible moral weight, and Donald Trump is famously not a man who carries moral weight longer than it takes to flush the condom and pay the porn star.

    Make absolutely no mistake: Donald Trump does not care that the shooter in El Paso killed people based on the color of their skin. He does not care that his rhetoric over immigration and race has fueled a crop of racially motivated mass killers. The El Paso shooter’s manifesto was pure Stephen Miller/Tucker Carlson white nationalist fanfic, reflecting word for word the tropes and themes of “demographic replacement” and “invasion” that are so common in the new language of Trump’s Republican party.

    I won’t say his name, but White ISIS McLovin’s immigrant-hating manifesto reads as spot-on to a meaningful faction of the Trump base, so much so it seems ripped from Tucker Carlson’s teleprompter.

    Shame about all the bodies, right? But it’s Trump or MS-13 gay sharia socialism, man. What are ya gonna do?

    Rick Wilson. “The Real Trump is a Bad Man” – Beast Inside article

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    Jay says:

    A quick tour of some of the signs protesting President Donald Trump’s visit to Dayton.— Eliott C. McLaughlin (@ByEliott) August 7, 2019

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    JPL says:

    @Ella in New Mexico: Charles Blow has it up also. It is so disgusting and he needs to get called out on it. No wonder he didn’t want press to witness his crash behavior.

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    debbie says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    The only solution is to impeach Stephen Miller.

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    Ksmiami says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I want everyone connected to the Administration jailed, impoverished and deported. They are all miserable scumbags

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    Jay says:

    JUST IN: Peter Strzok's lawsuit goes to … Amy Berman Jackson, judge in the Manafort and Roger Stone cases.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 7, 2019

    And of course:

    Notable: Ohio Republican @RepMikeTurner Mike Turner, who represents Dayton & whose daughter was across the street when the shooting took place, announces support for "preventing military style weapon sales to civilians, magazine limits, and red flag legislation."— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) August 6, 2019

    The ReThug mindset, it’s all about them and them only.

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    JPL says:

    @Jay: Whatever it takes.

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    Suzanne says:

    The POTUS and the press should stay away from the inpatient areas of the hospital. That creates a terrible environment for healing.

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    dmsilev says:

    Look, at least the plane didn’t fly to Toledo by mistake. That’s something, right?

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    Mike in NC says:

    Fat Bastard doesn’t know where they roll him off the goddamn plane pumped up with drugs. Could be Peoria, could be Miami. Just have the golf clubs ready to go.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I haven’t seen any reporting about what it is that Brown and Whaley said that set Trump off, unless he’s referring to statements from the weekend?

    Also, why is he referring to Sherrod Brown as “failed Presidential Candidate (0%)”? Brown isn’t running for President.

    Deluded and hateful is no way to go through life, son.

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    Faithful Lurker says:

    @Jay: I’m confused (0bviously nothing new). Is the website run by Gebert the site whose servers are based in Russia? How does McConnell,et al, fit in? If the Russians are operating a server farm used by high level US officials, that would explain a lot. Compromat (sp?) Wonder if Lindsy Graham is involved? I went to the Vickery tweet chain yesterday and still was confused. What is the site they’re talking about? Help.

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    oatler. says:

    From National Review/Koch-funded website Ricochet:
    “The Dayton shooter was a very left-wing supporter of Elizabeth Warren and hated Donald Trump. He was also a Satanist. ”
    Not The Onion.

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    TS (the original) says:

    And the media just has to print about trump. Let him starve from lack of coverage. Let the WHPC become unemployed.

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    debbie says:

    Jesus, his face in that photo where they’re surrounding the man in an arm sling holding another person’s hand! If that were flashed at me, my relapse might be fatal. //

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    debbie says:


    Except for being a Satanist, my local Fox station reported this information Monday night. They also said the same things about the El Paso shooter.

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    debbie says:


    If there’s any justice in this world, Trump will be the one to garner 0% in 2020.

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    Jay says:

    @Faithful Lurker:

    Prominent ReThugs are using a ReThug Digital Consultant and “Digital Trainer” who relies on unsecured servers in Russia for service hosting.

  59. 59
    Jay says:

    Just another Russian embassy stanning for Tulsi Gabbard. Nothing to see here.— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) August 7, 2019

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    Jay says:



    Gaslighting ‘Murikkka

    D enyA ttack R everse V ictim &O ffender #DARVO (@jjforegon) w/i #DeluthModel 👇is used to make accusers doubt their own sense of reality, leaving them less likely to report or address the bx of the accused. Also seen in #POTUS, #ProudBoys + #farright after #dayton.— Samantha Kutner (@ashkenaz89) August 7, 2019

    People who know the family say that his sister was trans.

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    prostratedragon says:

    @Jay: And major donor to the University of Michigan. He bought the name of the Business School.

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    Jay says:

    Stuck in moderation again.

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    Buckeye says:

    Sooo, looking at these photos from the hospital visit I know for sure who are the enthusiastic Trump supporters at work. I will also note that the units he visited are a lot more diverse than those pictures indicate.

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    Ruckus says:

    @randy khan:
    There’s so much he doesn’t know, have the ability to learn, or give a fuck about, that you are never going to be wrong saying he doesn’t know something.

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    Jay says:

    When I interview @chrislhayes last year for Slate, I asked him about certain moments of national outrage—the Muslim ban, child separation, Charlottesville—and how the response to them changed over time. This was part of his response.— Isaac Chotiner (@IChotiner) August 7, 2019

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I hadn’t looked closely. My gods, that is a terrifying grimace. A rictus.

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    nearly 700 plant workers were rounded up by ICE in mississippi today.

    And nothing whatsoever will happen to the plant owners. Until we punish employers for hiring undocumented immigrants, the whole thing is a sham.

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    Ruckus says:

    The difference between them is that sometimes abnormal is funny or interesting but trump never is.

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    Ruckus says:

    Not to worry, he is always and forever an asshole, awake or asleep. Or in a coma.

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    Jay says:

    Join us for a peaceful protest one week from today at the Hardin County Correctional Center, located at 1116 14th Avenue 50627 in Eldora, one of two ICE detention facilities in Iowa. DM this account for more information about rides/other ways you can help. #EndICEinIowa— End ICE in Iowa (@EndICEinIowa) August 4, 2019

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    TS (the original) says:

    @The Dangerman:

    Translation, one or more of the patients/doctors/nurses/staff told him to get bent.

    I think it was the woman (medic) in pink shirt in one of the photos. Can’t link because disgusting trump is in the photo.

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    Van Buren says:

    If anyone else even thought about making a campaign video out of a visit to shooting victims, the MSM would shit kittens.
    I am finding it harder and harder not to be a raging ahole.

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    Jay says:

    @Roger Moore:

    You need to thank Jeasus at every meal and snack for the food you eat.

    Not the Godbother’s one, the undocumented immigrant one.

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    TS (the original) says:


    the units he visited are a lot more diverse than those pictures indicate.

    Very white peoples in those photos – Must have searched the hospital to find some willing to be there.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: It’s not. He’s a sociopathic pile of shit who’s probably just thinking, “I won Ohio and Texas.”

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    I am seeing very little on Twitter about Trump’s day today. Looks like his handlers kept him away from the press, lest he go off like he did this morning before he left.

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    Mary G says:

    @Buckeye: Cause almost all the black and brown people called in sick or found another chore somewhere else in the hospital.

    Why he’s pissed at Sherrod Brown and Mayor Whaley had a press conference where they said Twitler and Melania were fine shaking hands and wishing the patients well, but he should do something about gun control.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Stoopid is as stoopid does:

    RT @RT_com

    Bernie #Sanders vows to share any info he might learn about #aliens if he becomes president

    Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has promised not to withhold any information he might learn about UFOs if he becomes president, explaining that his spouse would “demand” that he be forthcoming with the American people.

    Cutting issue.

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    Mike in NC says:

    We are in Scotland, but both the BBC and MSNBC are showing Fat Bastard doubling down on his sick racist remarks about non-white people. We hid our passports days ago.

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    @Faithful Lurker:

    Is the website run by Gebert the site whose servers are based in Russia?

    Yes. He’s advertising it as being subpoena-proof and holding up a bunch of Republican office holders as satisfied users.

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    For a long time, I’ve been outspoken that I want this guy to walk out of the White House on his own two feet. No longer. This guy can’t stroke out and die soon enough for me.

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    rikyrah says:


    DEMONS 😠 😠😠 😠

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    Shana says:

    @Suzanne: I saw a tweet earlier today from someone asking for 29-49 friends to join him/her for a halloween costume. I laughed out loud and the people around me were very concerned.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: So glad Wilmer has become a two trick pony.

    “The only problems we have in this country are income inequality and the people not knowing about possible space aliens!” *wags finger so much in your face, he pokes your nose a few times*

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    Keith P. says:

    This also pretty much confirms Scavino has ghost written so many Trump tweets he can’t switch out of that voice.

    Glad other people notice it (and point it out).

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Mike in NC: Well there go your plans to be loud Americans shouting about how great this country is. 😁

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    @Jay: he said it on youtube. First reported by NYMag. I used the RT tweet because it included the ridiculous quote involving his wife.

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    Cutting issue.

    Likely the only thing that could eclipse the damage Our Great Orange Menace has unleashed, though, so keep an open mind ;-)

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    Jay says:


    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    True or not, if RT is “reporting” it, they are doing it for a reason.

    And which ever wedge they are targetting it at, it’s not healthy for US Democracy.

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    EthylEster says:

    @Faithful Lurker: I’m with you. I read many tweets and now my head aches. I still don’t understand and this Chris Vickery guy doesn’t seem like he wants to explain, just gloat. But…THIS IS BIG…appears to be the message. I’m skeptical…until I understand better.

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    MazeDancer says:

    There is a report on Twitter, not yet verified, that the Dayton shooter’s sister was transexual. Had assumed his true identity. And was the first person shot.

    Here is a picture

    There are many tweests from his friends upset he is being misgendered.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Mike in NC: Don’t worry, no one will want to steal them.//

    @Shana: That’s either going to be feral hogs or a human centipede. Either way, Not Good.

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    Mike G says:

    “Trump did not speak publicly or allow himself to be photographed. … The visit to Dayton was a marked break with tradition, as presidents visiting grieving communities typically offer public condolences and use the opportunity to try to comfort the nation.”

    Trump’s “I don’t give a crap, but they tell me I have to look like I do” tour.

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    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    For a long time, I’ve been outspoken that I want this guy to walk out of the White House on his own two feet.

    Hell no. I want him dragged out in chains.

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    Buckeye says:

    @Mary G:
    Or they decided to actually do their jobs and not slobber all over a fascist.. I notice that the head of Trauma, who is from Nigeria, is trying to not actually be anywhere near him.
    Also, the thumbs up thing from Trump has always annoyed me, but I really find it offensive in this case.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Miss Bianca: I’d imagine feral hog-costumed people would be safe if they don’t roam into an ammosexual’s yard when there are children present.

    (Oh God, why am I taking this shit seriously?)

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    First frigging words out of his mouth on camera after touring University Medical Center was what an incredible day it has been and how much “love and respect” was showered on him for being the President. “They’ve never seen anything like it” and the rest of his time in a diatribe against Sherrod Brown and the mayor of Dayton.

    “They shouldn’t be politicking on a day like today. They’re very dishonest people”.


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    Jay says:


    Chris is a data nerd. Many of them only speak tech, and don’t communicate well with others.

    A top ReThug “IT guy” is using unsecured servers in Russia to provide a variety of IT services to major ReThug House members, Senators and Campaigns.

    It may be illegal, ( FOIA, FEC), it may not be illegal.

    It could be used for illegal activities, ( can’t be subpena’d), it might not be being used for illegal activities,

    but it gives Russia a full view of everything that happens, in real time,…

    and the only way for US Authorities to gain access would be through a major hack.

    It’s way worse than Butter Emailz.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Roger Moore: And then charged and tried with the other criminals in his Soviet shitpile mobster conman crime family. Hopefully found guilty, and hopefully hanged in NYC’s Central Park.

    And then, of course, remains thrown into one of Kīlauea’s lava lakes.

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    Jay says:

    A list of Andy Ngo's lies and false accusations over the last few days. Like OG's grifters like Posobiec, nearly everything that they say is dogshit, but the point is the stain that it makes, not the fact that the "news" they produce is based on lies. The lies are the point.— It's Going Down (@IGD_News) August 7, 2019

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    bemused says:


    I hear you. Thankfully we have a 5 month old kitten who has turned out to be a purr machine and cuddler who makes us laugh every day. He has been the best distraction to cope with the daily insanity.

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    lamh36 says:

    I’d like to point out…that the majority of the victims in Dayton were Black…and yet the only victim Chump was able to photo-op with was a white guy.

    I work in a hospital. Even in the teaching public hospitals, patients are allowed to say NO they don’t want to be photographed or NO they don’t want to have residents crowd round them…or NO I don’t want to be the token photo-op for this racist fuq.

    As for the hospital staff…I am disgusted by the giddy smiles and cheesing and grinning. As a hospitial employee myself, I also know they cannot make you be a prop for anyone without your consent or permission. The fact that the hospital ok’ed the used of their employees for this makes me sick

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    TenguPhule says:


    And then, of course, remains thrown into one of Kīlauea’s lava lakes.


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    tobie says:

    @Jay: thanks for putting this in terms non-techies like myself can understand.

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    lamh36 says:

    3m3 minutes ago
    At the El Paso Emergency Operations Center, Trump just attacked Sherrod Brown and Nan Whaley, saying that “they shouldn’t be politicking today” even as Trump himself continues to criticize them and other politicians.

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    billcinsd says:

    @randy khan: He probably has Sherrod confused with Messam

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    lamh36 says:

    What da fuq does this even mean?

    Steve Herman

    Verified account

    Follow Follow @W7VOA
    “He was a coward. He just gave up,” @POTUS says of #ElPasoShooting suspect.

    6:03 PM – 7 Aug 2019

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    lamh36 says:

    FYI…this is what likely set off Chump

    2h2 hours ago
    Ohio Sen. Brown: We can’t get anything done because Sen. McConnell and Pres. Trump are in bed with the gun lobby

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    hueyplong says:

    @lamh36: It means that Trump is starting the credible-only-on-FoxNews distancing from a mass murderer who is about to say things about motivations, influences, and goals that will be awkward for Trump’s PR team.

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    Martin says:

    @lamh36: I think he means that a real man would have kept shooting Mexicans until the cops gunned him down. #racistmissedconnections

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    Jay says:


    It’s an example of how deep Dolt45 is immersed in White Supremacy and American Facism.

    The guy was supposed to go out in a hail of gunfire and provide the Reich with another martyr to the cause to inspire others and be ‘chan-ed on the inter tubes.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    @lamh36: Trump attacks McCain: “I like people who weren’t captured”

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Faithful Lurker:
    Likewise. I poked lightly at a few of the sites and at least one appeared to be in .ru but need more info. Betcha their getting hit with a lot of probes now. Physical servers in Russia seems pretty big, given that it’s ostensibly about Republican pols hiding their emails/etc from US law enforcement and discovery.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @TenguPhule: Sorry. Any Aleutian Islands volcanoes as active?

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @lamh36: Nice way for Senator Brown to call the Republicans and the NRA a bunch of suckers of Putin’s ass. Too nice actually.

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    Buckeye says:


    I’d like to point out…that the majority of the victims in Dayton were Black…and yet the only victim Chump was able to photo-op with was a white guy.

    I was pointing out to a friend on FB about the same time that Adam was pointing it out here last night, the majority of dead are Black, we don’t know that majority of injured were. As far as I know, we have no breakdown of gender/race for the survivors.
    I’m going to presume that our Admin asked our trauma/er/icu staff if they wanted to do this, and obviously some of them did. The thumbs up is not a good look. I’ll be interested if they get any negative feedback on this.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Who’s this McCain fella? That’s not Meghan’s dad, is it?

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    James E Powell says:


    Have to be honest, all this time I had no idea who Meghan’s father was.

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    Spanky says:

    @mrmoshpotato: There’s some chatter on the intertubes that the fella was a prisoner of war or somesuch. WWII or Korea or something.

    Probably Fake News.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Well, at least you know who to avoid at work from now on. 🤷‍♀️

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @James E Powell: Not surprising. Meghan doesn’t incessantly yell, “John McCain is my father!”

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    Kay says:

    The trade war has hit farmers already beset by years of low commodity prices due to global overproduction and this year a string of bad weather. U.S. farm income dropped 16% last year to $63 billion, about half the level it was as recently as 2013.
    U.S. Agricultural exports to China dropped by more than half in 2018 after the trade war began, falling from $19.5 billion in 2017 to $9.2 billion in 2018.

    I’m sorry but they’re dopes. Trump absolutely screwed them and, apart from some pockets of them who have figured it out, they’re apparently going to stick with him until they’re bankrupt.

    The farms should change hands. The next owners maybe won’t be so gullible. Let markets take care of it. The land value will drop and maybe some new people can buy it up. Obama was just much, much better for them.

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    Jay says:

    Here are the instructions from the @soulcycle website on how to cancel already-purchased classes for a full refund.Contact:— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) August 7, 2019

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    lamh36 says:

    Follow Follow @MysterySolvent
    Here is a pic of National Hero Glendon Oakley. Trump forgot his name and never said it on tv. I’m sorry the pic isn’t the best. Glendon needs to know, America knows his name, and appreciates his courage in the face of an active shooter with an Assault Weapon! ❤️

    He’s miliatry, so I assume he was maybe obligated or felt obligated to go?

    Apparently then chump told him something bout him being able to go on to do movies after this…and Mr Oakley was not amused by that.

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    Jay says:


    The new owners will be Big Ag and Foreign Corporations.

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    lamh36 says:

    Thread from Maya Rupert, Julian Castro’s campaign manager. Do yourselves a favor and read the ENTIRE thing!

    Last night after a bunch of people feigned outrage over – from best I can tell – @castroforcongress seeing public information and tweeting about it – someone found my personal cell phone number and texted me a series of racist, misogynistic and anti-fat threats and insults.

    4h4 hours ago
    This, by the way, is the impact of false equivalence. The Trump campaign deliberately lied & called what Joaquin did doxxing, and because that blatant lie was allowed to circulate unchecked, a narrative took hold, and the result is that his supporters targeted me for retribution

    4h4 hours ago
    I don’t expect any of the concern trolls who spent yesterday wringing their hands in performative anger will be as loud about what happened to me. But I’m not writing this for them.

    4h4 hours ago
    I’m writing this because the question I get asked the most often by young women of color who want to work in politics is how to handle moments like this…

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    Jay says:

    After @RepMoBrooks read a passage of Mein Kampf about Jews controlling the media aloud on the floor of Congress, he chastised the Alabama Holocaust Commission for condemning his comments and suggested that they, too, were part of a Jewish conspiracy.— Sophie Ellman-Golan (@EgSophie) August 7, 2019

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    Jay says:

    Reminder: Blink Fitness is an Equinox/Soulcycle company, too— Kia Makarechi (@Kia_Mak) August 7, 2019

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Jay: I have approximately zero empathy for people who pay that kind of money to ride a bicycle to nowhere.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    The LameStream Media will die in the ratings and clicks with this guy. It will be over for them

    They will. They know it, too. Trump has been a bonanza for them. I’d say this is a fairly polite way of threatening them.

    Many thumbs will be on the scale in 2020. Work hard.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Gin & Tonic: And get yelled at while doing it.

    I can put my bike in my trainer and pedal away while watching TV in peace.

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    Jay says:

    “Local politicians have begged: If leftists stayed home, the brawls wouldn't happen.”In Oct 2018, Patriot Prayer came looking for fights outside of Kelly’s. In Jan 2019, they went looking for fights outside DSA. On May 1, 2019, they went looking for fights outside Cider Riot.— Juan C. Chavez (@inafutureage) August 7, 2019

    In Seattle they attacked soccer fans just going to a game.

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    Faithful Lurker says:

    Thank you, Jay and the others who cleared up much of the mysterious site mystery and thanks to those who are as confused as I am. I can’t stay on the BJ and read the comments as they come in, so I come and go in the thread. That means that I miss some relevant comments and can’t thank those who do answer my questions as promptly as I’d like. But I’m glad to have this as cleared up as it is..I hope the notion that the R powers that be are using an unsafe web server becomes more widely known.

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    Jay says:

    This is the NRCC staffer who's accusing Lucy McBath, WHOSE SON WAS MURDERED BY A MAN WITH A GUN for doing "anything for a quick buck."— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) August 7, 2019

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    Jay says:

    @Faithful Lurker:

    We try to be a top 10,000 full service blog

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    Jay says:

    Jimmy Aldaoud was a Christian man born in Greece who’d spent most of his life in America. He spoke no Arabic. But Trump deported him to his ancestral country of Iraq anyway.He died this week.— Nahal Toosi (@nahaltoosi) August 7, 2019

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    Jay says:

    If you’ve never seen American History X, the story of a reformed neo-Nazi named Derek Vinyard who tries desperately to save his younger brother from the wages of the hateful life that sent him to prison for murder, you need to watch it tonight. Especially right at this moment in our history, the film is vital. Violent white supremacists are no longer relegated to the fringes of American society but instead have somebody they perceive as their champion, Donald Trump, in the Oval Office. And they’re getting more violent. And they’re killing people.

    So without further ado, it is WONKETTE QUIZ TIME. Here are 19 statements. Some of them were made by Derek Vinyard before he and his friends committed violent neo-Nazi hate crimes against immigrants, others were made by the sitting president of the United States. Can YOU tell the difference?

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    Mandalay says:

    @The Moar You Know:

    Trump has been a bonanza for them.

    Exactly. Right now on CNN the cute and adorable Anderson Cooper has skillfully manipulated a bunch of pundits into screaming at each other over Trump’s behavior this week.

    Mi$$ion accompli$hed.

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    Jay says:

    @Gin & Tonic:


    There’s lots of people who go to the gym to ride bikes, for the exercise, because the streets arn’t a safe place to ride a bike.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Jay: There’s a difference between going to a $10/mo Planet Fitness to ride a stationary bike and going to a $35/hour Soul Cycle “studio” to ride a stationary bike while somebody screams at you.

    That said, riding a bike to nowhere is stupid.

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    germy says:

    Interview with Green Shirt Guy.

    New interview with @Alex_Kack aka #GreenShirtGuy"The majority of this country…. understands that the loudest voices happening right now are kinda ridiculous. And I think the laughter is resonating because that's how people feel right now." Story:— Nick VinZant (@NickVinZant) August 8, 2019

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    germy says:

    @Gin & Tonic: If we could hook up all those stationary bikes to create and store energy, we could wean ourselves from fossil fuels.

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    Jay says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    There’s also a big difference between going to Paulie’s Gym to lift weights and going to Golds Gym to lift weights. One is clean, brightly lit, has a locker room, has trainers and showers, the other doesn’t.

    One you go to in part for the scene and to be seen, the other you just go to to lift weights.

    Some people rely on instructors, coaches and “motivators” to exercise at their “peak”, some don’t.

    Having worked as a bike messenger for a while and having spent a lot of time commuting to work on a bike, year round, I fully understand the fear of riding on the streets in a lot of places. I wen’t through 12 bikes and was very lucky not to be killed or crippled many times.

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    germy says:

    @Jay: Who is Paulie?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @lamh36: That man would rather be just about any place other than there.

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    Downpuppy says:

    @Kay: China is having a terrible epidemic of African Swine Fever.. Something like 200,000,000 pigs are sick, dead, or dying. If not for the trade war, pork producers would be in hog heaven.

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    germy says:

    @Downpuppy: Will those sick pigs be turned into bacon for American consumers?

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    debbie says:


    And the very first comment confirms that!

    What does Dayton have to do with POTUS?It was a confirmed leftist Antifa member who praised and supported his fellow comrade the fire bomber who tried to kill several hundred migrants at an ice facility— FactsTrumpFeelings (@FactTrumpFeel) August 7, 2019

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    Jay says:


    Local guy, runs a local weightlifting gym in what used to be a garage in the old industrial area.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @germy: Odd, that sentence did not go where i expected it to. I saw the term “sick pigs” and assumed that you were referencing the Trump family.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    That said, riding a bike to nowhere is stupid.

    So you don’t believe in bikes for Alabama, Georgia or Utah? //

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    ola azul says:


    Gotta friend, lives in Orlando. Mid-sixties now, used to bike every day. Better shape than most younglings. Often pedaled from O-town to Titusville, catch a red or two, bike back. Not sure how far that is, but a purty good poke.

    Here coupla years ago, early morn, Jack was mowed down, hit-and-run driver. Nearly died, in coma for 3 weeks, hospital even longer. Surgeries. Lotta hardware holding him together now. Gets around, poorly, with a cane these days.

    While Jack was inna coma, the driver was found, and then … nothing happened to her. Apparently if you didn’t mean to mow somebody down onna bike with your 5k-pound death and dismemberment machine, *and* flee the scene, but yer really, *really* sorry after caught, that makes it A-OK.

    Because, Florida.

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    Jay says:


    Keep in mind that somebody with the twitter handle “factsTrumpfeelings” is probably not gaslight, but is engaged in gaslighting.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    There’s a difference between going to a $10/mo Planet Fitness to ride a stationary bike and going to a $35/hour Soul Cycle “studio” to ride a stationary bike while somebody screams at you.


    @Jay: We’re not dragging stationary bike riders at the gym.

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