Tim Ryan announces he’s withdrawing from presidential race and tells Republicans to “get their shit together” in same clip. #WhiteNationalistTerrorism pic.twitter.com/mhRiHN3l2m
— Neurology Doctor (@NeurologyDoctor) August 4, 2019
It's been pointed out that he said "suspending" and not "withdrawing"
— Neurology Doctor (@NeurologyDoctor) August 4, 2019
(IIRC, ‘suspending’ means he doesn’t lose access to any presidential-campaign funds he may have collected, so it may be just a legalism)
Sen. Sherrod Brown calls on Mitch McConnell to have Monday vote on gun background check… pic.twitter.com/dm5YYsHvb4
— James (@jcmarbury) August 4, 2019
The Democratic candidates are not mincing words in their reactions to this weekend’s horrors. https://t.co/ljAfu58qel
— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) August 4, 2019
What an astonishingly gross for McDaniel to say. El Paso is O'Rourke's home town and the congressional district he represented.
In a society with any sense of decency, a GOP chairwoman would resign over making a comment like this. https://t.co/1sspMLbTWn
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) August 4, 2019
HOW TO TAKE ACTION: The Senate needs to come back from recess NOW and vote on background checks and Red Flag legislation.
Text CHECKS to 644-33 to be connected with your Senators and tell them to act on background checks. pic.twitter.com/QJ1IHWjZ28
— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) August 4, 2019
Downpuppy
“Suspending ” is a technical term meaning “keeping the bank account open so we don’t die in debt”
Nobody ever unsuspends after 48 hours
satby
Yes, good for Tim Ryan. And except for Wilmer (and no idea what rock Tulsi is under) all our candidates have explicitly called out white supremacist terrorism as a cause and the TOTUS as the enabler.
Mike R
Background checks, gun shows and private sales loopholes all closed the least they can do.
mrmoshpotato
Hate to spoil this, but Moscow Mitch the Kremlin’s Bitch won’t be calling for a Monday vote on background checks.
Baud
@satby:
Wow. I shouldn’t be surprised, but I have to assume that he knows that all eyes are on all our candidates.
satby
@mrmoshpotato: yeah, I just said on the earlier thread about his fall that I don’t buy it, I think it’s a dodge for him to be able to lay low and avoid calling the Senate back into session.
They all figure we’ll settle down soon and it can be back to business as usual. So far that hasn’t been that bad of a bet for them.
Baud
I actually found Tim Ryan to be the most annoying person in the debates and there was some stiff competition.
But I prefer to priase Dems rather than bury them so kudos to him for not dragging this out for the publicity.
Another Scott
@satby: Bernie’s Twitter account called Donnie out [4 part thread]. Seems pretty clear enough (and I’m not a Bernie fan).
YMMV.
Cheers,
Scott.
satby
@Baud: Wilmer is a one hit wonder that keeps travelling the country playing his only popular song. He hasn’t got the ability or the smarts to adjust to changing circumstances and times. And his statement blaming mental illness instead of white supremacist terrorism and guns, again, won’t play well to the youngs he needs to stay in the race.
Baud
@Another Scott:
I guess. Seems like weak tea considering his normal rhetoric. But technically he called out Trump.
PST
The turtle fell and broke his shell.
satby
@Another Scott: odd, didn’t see that and I was just on twitter, but I don’t follow him. I did see a lot of tweeted clips of Bernie yapping about mental illness and gun violence though. Sadly for the Bern, more people will see those than his tweets.
HyperSphericalCow
Sometimes, when I’m sleeping, I’m startled awake by a cat jumping onto me. I get a little rush of adrenaline, then fur and purr, and I try to go back to sleep.
These days, when I go to Target, just doing my shopping, I wonder how I will react if I were startled out of my routine by gunfire.
I hate living like this.
satby
@Another Scott: @Baud: apologies for the naked link:
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1157815349120765954?s=20
Bernie on camera, the clip I was referring to.
satby
@satby: ah, and this is from the same forum as the one that Buttigieg spoke so plainly and forcefully at just a little while later.
But today Wilmer figured out which way the wind was blowing so kudos to him, I guess. Way to lead, grandpa.
Anne Laurie
@Baud:
FelonyGovt
I wish more of the no-hope candidates would start dropping out. The sooner we get that debate stage down to the 5-8 serious candidates, the better.
satby
@Anne Laurie: yep, this clip.
Edit: and what a contrast to the statement Mayor Pete made on the same stage.
Anne Laurie
@satby:
Give Sanders this — he didn’t go full Repub and blame it on video games, cuz he’s down with the Youngs!
lamh36
satby
@FelonyGovt: starting with the putz highlighted one comment above yours.
Another Scott
@satby: I suspect the Twitter post was by his staff, maybe with an OK by him. I agree that his inclination seems to be it-was-something-other-than-easy-availability-of-war-weapons that is the most important factor (assuming the video clip isn’t deceptively edited).
He’s still (as in 2016) running for President of White Vermont rather than the extremely diverse USA.
Cheers,
Scott.
hells littlest angel
“I think all over the world people are looking at the United States and wondering what is going on, what is the mental health situation in America where time after time after time we’re seeing indescribable horrors.”
Yeah, the mental health situation. We insanely keep electing depraved morons who line their pockets with money from the gun-humper lobby.
Villago Delenda Est
Ronna Romney McDaniel has no sense of decency.
She is a Rethuglican.
Villago Delenda Est
@Anne Laurie: Bernie is an NRA whore. In the words of the great, late efgoldman, fuck ’em.
West of the Rockies
@lamh36:
Okay, but WHY should Trump (of all people) be there? What would he do, besides toss out some paper towels to the victims? Does anyone in Ohio want to hear Trump’s display of fake sympathy?
Suzanne
@HyperSphericalCow:
Irony: About 12 years ago, I was in a Target when gunshots broke out. A dude tried to rob the snack bar. He was an idiot; there were already police in the store who were dealing with another issue. No one was hurt, dude was arrested without further incident. But it was scary AF. I had Spawn the Elder, who was, at the time, Spawn the Only. He was preschool-age and sitting in the shopping cart. When I heard the shots, I ran like Usain Bolt pushing a shopping cart looking for an exit, before hiding under a store display and calling 911.
I was at a rally for Warren on Thursday, and our local mall yesterday. Both times, I was thinking about crazy gun people the entire time. Looking for exits….
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Socialist Moses from Vt had positions closer to the R caucus on both immigration and guns before he ran in 2016.
@Baud: Even more than DeBlasio?
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Yes! When I say stiff competition, I mean it.
Matt McIrvin
@Downpuppy: Correct. Candidates pretty much always “suspend” when they drop out, so they can wind down in an orderly manner and continue to raise money to cover campaign debts. The distinction doesn’t mean anything beyond that.
HyperSphericalCow
@Suzanne: I graduated high school right after Columbine, when school shootings were a freak occurrence, not worth worrying about.
Today, I cannot imagine the mental overhead that these poor kids must be taking on these days. Metal detectors at the doors? JFC.
mrmoshpotato
@satby: I’m not sure if it’s a dodge, but I am sure that the fascist POS wouldn’t call for a background check bill vote even if the Senate were in the middle of a normal session. Remember, this is the bastard who stole a Supreme Court seat. It’s not so much shamelessness as it’s fuck-the-Constitution-ness.
Jay
Skepticat
Yes, Ms. MacDaniel, that does indeed apply to everything you said. Ever.
Skepticat + 2
Villago Delenda Est
@Anne Laurie: It’s true that he also didn’t call, like feral sack of shit Dan Patrick, on “godlessness” as the root cause of all this.
satby
@Jay: oh, so that’s where my own personal troll on FB got that from.
Gravenstone
@West of the Rockies: You and I know that Trump “being there” would be at best counterproductive, at worst disastrous. But the grieving family member probably wants Trump to put faces and bodies to the carnage that his words are causing. Sadly, that sociopathic ass wouldn’t be moved one bit by seeing the dead.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
The mental health quote is a NRA talking point. He started echoing it after Wayne LaPierre introduced it.
Kay
Why is it okay to blame mentally ill people and people who play video games but not gun owners? Why are none of these people afraid of stigmatizing any person with a mental illness or any video-game player, yet are terrified of even slightly offending any gun owner?
They’re not even consistent between 1, 2 and 3. Nothing they say makes any sense. If you say “video games” or “mental illness” you have to also say guns. I mean, the video games thing is fucking ridiculous anyway because it doesn’t hold across countries, but at least TRY to make the thing hang together somewhat coherently.
Baud
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Maybe America’s billionaires are also suffering from mental health issues. We have been too hard on them.
Aleta
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
He still refuses to budge from his support for blanket NRA immunity
“what you’re really talking about is ending gun manufacturing in America. I don’t agree with that.” ~ March 6, 2016 CNN Debate
The sole corporation this life long socialist supports is …. the NRA
eta: during the 2016 campaign he gave an interview were he implied the government should nationalize the sneaker and deodorant industries. He wants to control “Old Spice”, but not AK-47s.
Kay
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Oh, bravo Bernie. So brave. Throw “millions” of people with mental illness under the bus and portray them as all dangerous psychopaths. “Walking the streets”. Where does he think they should be? He’s such an asshole.
Another Scott
@Aleta: ICYMI, the NRA is continuing to implode. ProPublica (from July 30):
Good, good.
They need to be pariahs.
Cheers,
Scott.
SiubhanDuinne
Seven people shot at a playground in Chicago this afternoon. Jesus Christ.
MagdaInBlack
@SiubhanDuinne:
https://abc7chicago.com/mt-sinai-closes-er-amidst-violent-weekend-with-47-shot-4-killed/5442067/
Jeffro
I’m glad Dems like O’Rourke are ramping up their rhetoric…at least what they are saying matches reality, calls out the instigators from the Ill Douche on down, gives our side something to fight for.
Keep it up. Draw the contrasts, again and again. We don’t have any more mental health issues than other countries do, but whew we sure do have a shitload of guns and the entirely correlated shitload of casualties to prove it.
SiubhanDuinne
@MagdaInBlack:
It’s terrible.
susanna
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: The ones with the larger mental health problem are the politicians who deserve to be the focus of any mental health investigations and reports.
.
And while doing that, someone should find out how they can live a healthy life with honorable, honest perspectives. In my book the worst of them are psychopaths, who feel no shame, no guilt and glorify their position to “put country first.” Then maybe we can all start solving this country’s multiple dilemnas
SiubhanDuinne
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Whut whut now? For real?
Jay
Ruckus
@Suzanne:
I wasn’t in combat in the service but for years after I came home I always made sure there was no one behind me/back to a wall and crowds and I didn’t get along all that well. Now I just make sure I can fall down as fast as possible. I’m old so mission accomplished. Well except for the moans, groans and creaks on the way down. Now getting up later, that’s an issue.
Jay
@satby:
Not saying your personal FB troll is a Nazi, but when they are recycling and amplifying Nazi talking points,
The Nazis probably think they are a Nazi.
rikyrah
Heard Sherrod Brown on several shows.
Nothing from Portman??
Susan Sullivan
@mrmoshpotato: My Senator. Love him. Beto’s statement was especially strong.
Jay
Jay
Jay
FelonyGovt
OT just saw on Facebook that Valerie Plame is running for Congress in Northern New Mexico. If I recall correctly, she’s the CIA agent who was outed during the GWB years.
Jay
Jay
chopper
@Kay:
it’s hard enough for people with mental illness to deal with the stigma this culture places on it, this dumbass shit doesn’t help. and BTW trump is saying the same shit about how it’s all about mental illness. that should tell bernie something, not that he ever listens to anyone. fuck him.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@SiubhanDuinne: In an interview with John Harwood he said too much choice in deodorant and sneakers leads to child hunger. No joke.
TS (the original)
@lamh36:
Last person on earth I would want anywhere near me in such a tragic situation
SiubhanDuinne
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Crazy.
Tazj
@Gravenstone: When I first read that I thought, Trump is absolutely the last person I’d like to see after such a tragedy. But, like you said it’s probably the only way they can think of right now to hold him accountable and make him face the sorrow and loss of these people. Maybe he’d like everyone to know how wonderful his cousins were and yell at the president.
@Jay: Exactly, they always say it’s a mental heath problem but they offer no plans to get everyone access to good mental health care.
geg6
@chopper:
This. Thank you.
Jay
https://www.newsweek.com/patriot-prayer-members-armed-snipers-positioned-themselves-roof-ahead-august-1171862
And of course, they are invading Portland again next weekend, with support from the Portland Police Bureau.
Steve in the ATL
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: so we are supposed to wear government Air Jordans? Fuck that shit!
Jay
Villago Delenda Est
@Baud: Removing their heads will go a long, long way to addressing the issue.
Redshift
@FelonyGovt: Yup, that’s her.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Steve in the ATL: imperialist, decadent strawberry smoothies replaced by the people’s revolutionary Solyent Green
Villago Delenda Est
@FelonyGovt: Outed by at-large war criminal Dick Cheney.
Jay
@Steve in the ATL:
Gym Jordans, not Air Jordans.
Jay
Jay
Mike J
@Downpuppy: The FEC doesn’t recognize “suspended” as a category for a campaign. In or out. But if it makes people feel better, whatever. I was going to ask who the fuck JimBob Ryan was anyway, but it doesn’t matter now.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@Baud: I agree. If being a billionaire is causing them this much stress, clearly the only humane thing to do is confiscate the wealth that’s causing them such problems. Let no one say I don’t have compassion for billionaires.
Ceterum censeo factionem Republicanam esse delendam.